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obonujoker:
Coming from a Uefalona, Man shitty and PSBottle fan .....

Owen won the ballondor too Oga

Ojoro sentimental 7th ballondor...

You should have gotten over this by now. Hanhan

obonujoker:
Salah and win it if he wins the ucl...

Didn't Ronaldo win it in the EPL, over Pessi, Ronaldinho and the rest from Laliga?

And there's where it ended. Comman do it again in the next 5 years

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I'll ve to agree to disagree. Roberto is sh!T in defense. Alba's game depend on speed, dude is not getting any younger.

Compared to Alonslow... Who you think say go start? Alba is way better, for me.

Taguchi:
i no dey support anybody for the sake of "the liga"

any team i support is to further my personal agenda ; and as it stands now i dont like madrid atall, but presently i like pool even less

Lol... Well, my personal agenda also drags toward Salah winning the Ballon d'or too. So, I'm spoofing my agenda from neck to neck

Kilishihunter:
I just had to be rechecking the moniker time and time again to make sure I'm not reading this from a troll acct

Asin ehnnn

jpmoriarti:
Lolz this one is OK then.

I thought you want to claim some Laliga big brother, while Barça is sinking down a rabbit hole. Fuccck Laliga.

Brother gini? Oku gbuo brotherhood

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
not bad sha. but i prefer we ship them out totally especially if dey don't trust Dest & buy a new rightback.

Xavi bias 4 spanish players is real. Having Alba & Roberto in our defence will surely hamper our chances of winning major trophy next season.

I don't think we still get it. Alba cannot be touched. Not even Robertson can displace him right now, which is why we are going for someone that won't mind playing second fiddle.

As for Roberto, I'll be glad to have a younger playmaker in the team coming from the right back. If he can up his game defensively, then we might be set for one season although I am totally open to getting someone else. But the last few times Roberto has featured, he did well.

Taguchi:
are you me?

i dislike both equally

infact i'm more disposed to madrid winning this night; the rivalry can wait as my liverpool adversaries are closer to home and i love big benz and luka

but if liverpool wins then Salah for the ballondor

either way, it's a win-win for me

hala Vadrid!

Lol. There's nothing that make Salah win the Ballon d'Or ahead of Benzema. I mean... Nothing. That one na our birthright for La Liga and nothing can stop that...


But for the rest ehnnnn .. Anyway na way

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Xavi's 1st team recruitment policy should be legitimately questioned by all concerned CULES however , lets remember he came in the middle of the season.

He needs more time bro, even after VALVERDE disgraced us in ROme dem no sack am. Next season Liverpool nak us 4-0 yet dey no sack him.

He needs your support.

IKON doesn't know that... He praises mediocrity with astute confidence and it's something worth studying.

IKON360:
Koeman had a slightly better squad last season than he had this season, and last season, he was still let down by the individual brilliance of players like Roberto, Lenglet and king Bumtiti.
Also last season, numerous times we needed a 9 and you remember that Dembele was at those times deployed as a 9 to varying degrees of success.
Then when this season started, our top 3 goal scorers last season were either injured, loaned out or had no contract. Our wingers were injured and all the players one could rely on were injured too.
Blaming Koeman for not having what Xavi was provided with is unfair to be honest.
Yes Xavi has tried to be honest but if Koeman had what Xavi had by January, I seriously doubt that we would go trophiless this season.
And that thing you said about Copa Del Rey being about players' individual brilliance is false and rubbish talk, Greizman, Messi, De Jong and Alba all had brilliant attacking performances, Pique, Mingueza and I think Araujo or so had an absolutely impeccable shift at the back and Busquets enjoyed himself maximally in the midfield. Or you have short term memory too?
Koeman did not disband Suarez, Koeman didn't have the power to disband anybody. Why didn't he disband Puig or Pedri like he initially wanted to? And if you read any of Suarez' interviews on his leaving Barca in none did he blame Koeman, he and Messi even Dani Alves all blamed Barca board. Not Koeman. Where TF did you even get that kind of false information?
And Suarez was last season, De Jong, Depay were this season or you have forgotten?
You are a Koeman hater, baseless arguments sha.
That's how so many of you on this group were also Valverde haters and now it turns out that Valverde is still Barca's best coach in recent memory.

Slightly better squad, you say? For a team that had and lost Messi? You'd compare that to this particular team on all ramifications?


You've returned with those brain-draining controversial arguments that cause you to fight people here. Abeg...

How do you feel so comfortable praising some level of mediocrity? Valverde was bang average and there have been lots of videos showing that his tactics were STRONGLY BASED ON PASS-TO-MESSI.. Of course, compared to the rest that has come, bar Xavi, he's gotten the best results... Something every right thinking person knows was dependent on Messi's individual brilliance.

If you so think otherwise... Why hasn't any top team hired him to lead them since he left Barca? Don't come here to tell us that he went to depression after the sack because you and I know it's just another excuse. Barca's job wasn't his first and shouldn't have been his last if he was that good... Do you know why? Because even rival teams could easily see that he was bang average and they knew there was no Messi to rescue his assss.


And for the departure of Suarez being orchestrated with a simple phoenvall from Koeman, if you don't know that... Then you don't have any business discussion barca situation here on anywhere....because it was public to everyone.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Spanish players don't pay tax?

It's less... I mean, way less, as if it's nothing on wage bills, especially if they've been working on a professional level for 5 years and above.

jpmoriarti:
Nonsense.

Who image help?

Laliga image cannot be resuscitated if the league turns to one man show.

Laliga was the best when Barca and Madrid were at the top of their game.

Now that Barcelona boards have run the club down due to greed and lack of foresight, we can't attract top talents and we can't keep the ones we have.

I don't see how Madrid UCL win will be in our favour.

It's a bit of a win-win for me. If Liverpool wins, I go drag Madrid, and if the latter wins, I'll easily drag the whole EPL as a whole.

Well, it's my preference. Besides, I've got some Liverpool guys and their bragging liberties are beginning to irk me.

jonsnow92:
We are all Liverpool today right?

I'd be rooting for Madrid... La Liga image is gone and this might just be the restitution we need to start a new revolution.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Tired of hearing such. Let him get to work. Not d same man that gave roberto contract extention.

If you're going to terminate lenglet, miguenza, umtiti, braithewhite ..i don't see any reason why roberto shld be retained.

The major reason why Spanish players are retaining is because of tax. Barcelona, at the moment cannot handle financial plays with tax.

Roberto might be past it but then, he's been tested to a reasonable extent.

andrewbaba44:
You have a ucl final tomorrow ,but you must always be obsessed about Barca like your fans

It's in their genes. They eat, drink and breathe Barca

FergieRaww:
KARIM!

Mbappe say make I greet you.

joviegghead:
He was impressive.
Our unbeaten and winning streak was incredible.
Dude led the team to 4-goal wins severally. I don't think he should be criticised. Let's just hope he improves in his selection.

Exactly!!!

Statistical experts from Opta have analytically and statistically named the best team for the 2021/22 campaign.

Guess what!!! Xavi is their manager!!!!

jpmoriarti:
His methods of conceptualizing football are so grossly inept.

I can't even imagine we have been engaging that dunce

Yes, we cannot blame Bartomeu forever but his damning fingerprints are still all over the place.

I'm perplexed by his takes, to be honest.

I mean, the start of the season to the mid saw us all begging to even stay alive in the league because it was evident Messi was the only structure we had, coming from Koeman's first season. Now, with the GOAT gone, we had to return to the drawing board but we couldn't get our hands to function right because we were incapacitated by the economic crisis that Bart has plunged the team into. We had to rely on players that had limited abilities because we didn't have the adequate resources to bully our way into the market.

Most importantly, our impatience with veterans was actually the beginning of our downfall. Agreed, we still have some of them in our ranks but without a working structure, they seem quite useless, causing us to ax them off. I'm pretty sure Xavi would have done better if he had the same team as Valverde or even Setien. But look at what we left him... Crumbs


I'm not saying I trust him completely, especially with relapse after the international break, but I'll rather we give him till next season to see if he can turn things around but we shouldn't go around insulting as IKON as evidently done because he didn't win anything. FFS, even when Messi was with us, we experienced trophy-drought, even though it was once.

IKON360:
Who deprived Barca of a proper coach and structure? Bartomeau?
Suarez was sold, guess who he was replaced with? NOBODY!
Greizman was loaned out, Trincao was loaned out, Dembele and Fati were injured, Collado was not registered and the wingers Barca had were Gavi and Demir and later Dest.
Koeman basically had to beg the board to get a 9 and from making noise about Joao Felix and such, nobody was signed except Luuk De Jong.
Or you have forgotten these bits of entertaining information? When Pedri was injured and the midfielders we had were De Jong, Busquets and Nico Gonzalez? Abi na short term memory dey do that Barca under Xavi played their best matches when our injured players came back and all the kinds of players that Koeman was screaming that he needed when they were provided for Xavi, Xavi went on that winning streak?
Koeman wanted a winger and a 9 because we had no 9 and all our wingers were injured, Xavi got Ferran Torres face of movement 2022 and Aubameyang, Traore and fit Dembele who finished the season with 13 assists yet you open your mouth and say Barca didn't have a structure and a coach.
The same team that won Copa del Rey last season, half of them were tossed aside this season by either injuries or loan.
You remember when Pique and Araujo were injured under Koeman this season, when even Braithwaite was injured earlier this season?
Or you have short term memory of convenience?
You won't win trophy but you will celebrate qualifying for UCL what kind of disgusting consolation is that?
Koeman fucking won a trophy, qualified for UCL and had two players win massive individual awards under his coaching time.
Look at Xavi, pursuing Azpilicueta, Alonso and not getting rid of Roberto that we absolutely and completely don't need.
But no, keep blaming Bartomeau soon you will blame Sandro Russel or Joan Gamper

Under whose tutelage did this happen? Who was responsible for the economic situation that prevented from getting proper players? Koeman disbanded Suarez beciae he wasn't in his plans through a phone call and preferred Luuk De Jong, yet you want us to believe it's not Bartomeu?



Then to the other points you are listing, my dear... It shows how much you've lost touch with footballing reality. Imagine that you are claiming to know that Barcelona was so hit by economic crisis that we couldn't even register players, right to even some barca B players such as Collado. Xavi got Ferran only because our economic situation was bettered a bit after some master strokes by Alemany and Laporta... But nope... You don't remember that. Xavi who hasn't spent up to one season is suddenly shameless because he couldn't win a trophy when every cule's prayer was even to escape the reality of getting relegated or in the best term, at least qualified for UCL football after Koeman almost left us for the dead.

Let's not even forget that the only trophy that the Dutchman won was major because he had Messi in his rank. Worse, he finished third and had to depend on players' individual brilliance to have managed to have won Copa. But no... You had selective amnesia not to have remembered that.

Xavi's style can be subjected to criticism... Ffs, I, and some other Cules have led that agenda a lot here. We've debated that he hadn't done well in so many areas which we hope he'd realize and work on but you coming outrightly to use other coaches' achievement(s) that had stable squads and had been tested in some areas of competitiveness is completely laughable and equally disgusting.

IKON360:
The team that Arsenal won FA cup with under Arteta isn't better than this Barca team in any ramification.
The team that Mourinho won Conference league with is not better than this Barca team in any ramification too.
Rangers team that reached UEL finals isn't better than this Barca team but this Barca team went trophiless. Guy, if shame no dey catch you, e dey catch me.
Fucking Franfurt came to Nuo Camp and beat Barca, mehn. That was sad.
Hopefully such won't happen again

And which of these teams didn't have a proper structure and coach from the beginning of the season?

Let's not forget that the team was already declining and was relying on teenagers to carry the team. Yet you think the team is better than those ones that had veteran players playing at a high level and even a European well tested coach.

And those clubs you mentioned, which of them qualified for the UCL?

IKON360:
Zidane won UCL in his first season
Mourinho won Conference league in his first season
Arteta won FA cup in his first season
Flick won German cup in his first season
What did Xavi win in his first season? We came second?
Who knocked Barca out of Copa Del Rey and UEL?
Who thinks it's a good idea to sign Alonslow?
Our tears go tey sha

With which squad did any of these ones win the major competition that you are talking about? Even Pep, as genius as he is, didn't win any title in his first year as manager in City, despite having a good squad.

But it's Xavi that took over a declining team languishing in 9th position and was closer to relation than top 4 that you think should be crucified? Or you'd prefer not to talk about how we played ucl football against 3 teams and could only register one shot on target under koeman.

Ikon, can you please return back to your sabbatical leave and avoid football talks for a while? You seem to have lost it.

andrewbaba44:
Gaviiiiii

Was there any competition before?


I'm surprised they even considered putting that category into voting sef

IKON360:
Now you are also blaming Rosell. Man I don't know what to do with you people again.
Is it Bartomeau that is selling Ferran Jutgla to Club Brugge? Is it Bartomeau that of all people to have interest in it's Christensen that is being benched by Chalobah? Is it Bartomeau that sold Emerson Royal to sign Alves and then Azpilicueta? Is it Bartomeau that promised Haaland and then it ended in tears? Is it Bartomeau that used Messi's renewal as campaign point only to swiftly disappoint on it?
See if you want to criticize Bartomeau, criticize him on his bad decision making when Barca was swimming in wealth and the unwillingness to focus on the sporting aspect of running the club and focusing instead on money

We wouldn't be in this shiit we are in today if BartoEWU didn't plunge us neck deep in debts and poor economic management.

Simple.

IKON360:
Greizman was signed because Suarez the best or one of the best strikers of his generation was becoming a persistent source of disappointment for Barca, he was not pressing like he used to and he missed more chances than he was converting. On this thread I am sure that many of us old timers could remember some heart breaking misses from Suarez plus his amusing UCL drought. That's why Greizman was signed. Greizman was a brilliant forward for Athletico, and was the best player at Euros 2016 and the third best player in La Liga only behind Messi and Ronaldo, that's why Barca wanted him plus he was a proven finisher and la Liga expert.
Gomez was part of Portugal's team that won Euros in 2016 and he was actually very good in that tournament, that's if you watched Portugal's match without hoping for Portugal to lose because of Ronaldo.
And this talk that Barca only enjoyed success because of Messi is I'm sorry but extremely dumb and stupid.
In the past 20 years the coaches that have not won any trophies with Barca all had Messi in their team yet they won nothing.
It basically shows you that while Messi is good, he still needs people that can bring out his best or everything will fail. So stop this talk that Barca achieved success because of Messi didn't Setien have Messi, didn't Gerrard Martino have Messi, what trophies did they win?
Was Bartomeau's tenure as president geared towards to the business end of things over the sporting one? Yes, it definitely was. Besides you need money to have a successful team. Look at Man City, look at Liverpool, look at Madrid, even Bayern.
Did Bartomeau make mistakes? Yes he did.
Did Bartomeau do anything right? Yes, he did.

Is there any Barcelona president that didn't make mistakes? No there isn't.

Did they do anything right? yes, they did.


The same mistakes and "right-doing" is synonymous with every president that used more than one season as a president.

However, the major fact is... The wrongs outweighs the right and that's why we are in this shiiithole we see in today. I don't see how that's a debate.

IKON360:
You know as at when Koeman was sacked, Barca needed a win to qualify in UCL, were in Super cup espana, Copa Del Rey and finally dropped into Europa league?
Guess which one Xavi won after having the best transfer window in the last 3 seasons?

Best transfer window in 3 seasons? Lol. Okay... I really should leave you to clown alone

jpmoriarti:
I go to twitter. All I see i see is Dembele is leaving to PSG, FdJ might be sold, Jutgla is sold, Gavi's contract deadlocked

And then I also see Umtiti assures that his knees are up to Barca level , Braithwaite pledges his love for FC happy to complete his contract, Pjanic says he has two years left on his contracts , Lenglet does not want to leave Barcelona

Are you kidding me?

That's exactly why I'm asking us to show these idiots in the board that we are not convenient with their decisions. Imagine selling Ferran Jugtla to Club Brugges when Martin Braithwaite is telling everyone that he wants to prove his quality to Xavi. Which yeye quality that one think say he get? Because we jokingly call am GOAT? Personally, I'll prefer Luuk De Jong to stay than him.

Then for Dembele, if he wants to owe my club to ransom, let him bounce. If he doesn't know that Xavi is his sole saviour, then he's a bastaard

jpmoriarti:
I didnt watch the game yesterday nor did i even watch the highlight. For the fact they conceded two goals against Australian fishermen and plumbers, already put me off watching the highlight.

Balde? I dont know if he is going to make it at Barca. Maybe he has promise but we need more than that. He should muscle up and look at Ansu for inspiration towards confidence building.

Lol. We really expect a lot from this team. I can understand.

But you know say na All-Star game we play sha... And we even featured Bum-titi.

For Balde, I think he'd be more than a promising talent. He looks ready to learn cos the last match would show some Alba/Abidal-esq movement except for not knowing to cross when it's important. I think he'd learn well in no time under proper tutelage.

jpmoriarti:
I'm tired please.

Good players are leaving while useless players are pledging loyalty.

Loyalty kee you there.

Eleribu

Just denounce your woeful contract and move the fuccvk on. We don't need your stupid loyalty. We need you to fuckkking leave

Geeez!

Please call names... Let's make these idiots see that they are messing up.

Barcelona board is useless abeg!!!!

IKON360:
In the last 10 seasons, only 3 Barca coaches have gone trophiless.
Xavi
Setien
Gerard Martino
Isn't it wonderful?

You don't think including Xavi's name here is unnecessary and disrespectful?

IKON360:
I don't know this laughing stock sha, because under Bartomeau, Barca became the richest club in world, the most valuable and generated the most revenue per annum for 3 years, Barca also won 13 trophies during his tenure as president, the only club president that Barca won more trophies under was Joseph Nunez who under his leadership the club won 20 trophies.
So how exactly did he turn Barca to a laughing stock or you want to type without making basic research?
Is Barca the first club to sign expensive players who didn't leave up to expectations?
Barca also signed Suarez and placed him on huge salary, Messi was also on huge salary, why aren't talking about those ones it's Greizman, Barca's second highest goal scorer last season that is stressing you. Madrid signed Kaka and Higuain and placed them on huge wages, they flopped or didn't meet expectations, did the clubs fold? Was anyone fired? Chelsea signed Torres for a then England record, was anybody killed? Or arrested? Man utd signed Sanchez, was anybody killed or arrested?
.
It would be nice if Barca fans tried to look at the bigger picture too, and stop this bizarre myopia that is ridiculous

The point is... He made unnecessary signings that weren't needed and the worse part is, they were big money moves that didn't help us.

Signing Griezman at the time we did was not needed at all. Yes, we needed a fix for dwindling Coutinho but how did he expect to play a left-footed player on the right when Messi was still very active? Let's not even talk about Malcolm and Andre Gomez among others.

Bartomeu's project in Barcelona was far away from a dependable sporting and business project. Maybe the latter was considered a bit since he sold us as big spenders with promotional content and all, but I don't think he considered the prospects of the club, alongside Abidal. Forget the success we accrued, the ONLY reason behind that success was MESSI, which is why he had to invest HEAVILY to ensure that he continued but foolish as he was, he didn't realize that the GOAT isn't immortal.


Bartomeu dealt with us grossly and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have noticed this if the covid waves hadn't happened.