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mine3112:
My brother,who are you suggesting to the board that will take us to the promise land if you think we can't achieve that feet from Arteta because all we want is the glory of the club..

Bro, I have never asked him to be sacked, it is risky to sack him just as Arsenal realized sacking Emery (who was doing better elsewhere), didn't instantly yeuld results, it took spending and several times before everything normalized.

But Arsenal should not be relaxed with Arterta nor be celebrating near success or best after Pep.... I was only against those saying he is a legend who should be here for next 5yrs because of these incredible results... If after next season no reasonable success, the club should try and look elsewhere for a decent manager and try new things...

Just as a decent Raya who wasn't setting the world apart came and unseat Ramsdele, there are many managers who could come and be an upgrade... The Leipzig, Leverkusen, Milan etc managers are decent.

[quote author=Jodera post=1299w096]Maybe if Emery had won a cup, just any cup, with that squad and also not lose the dressing room, he would still be an arsenal manager not Arteta.
All these Europa final praise ey we no win no be am


And no, he bought those clowns players you listed not Wenger.[/quote]How come he won trophies elsewhere? How come he is about to make UCL with Villa? How come Arterta didn't use that squad to d this present "wonders"? My point will always be he was never 100% the problem.

You knew Arsenal was never spending big then....it was series of loans, yougsters,pensioners...Which reasonable coach would go purchase Luiz, Litchternie and Sokratis...
Wenger Owned Mustafi and Kolasinac....

If you don't want to rate Europa final them why are you guys overpraising Artera's coming second? Why overpraising being favorite against Bayern? Why overpraising beating these Utd, spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea who have almost been beaten by anyone...
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Like I have said, it's you guys who are emotional about Arterta, he haas tried and should be made to feel the heat of delivering of may get sacked....as against the he has done wonders and should be here comfortably for 10years... I don't believe his. Critics hate him nor want him sacked, they just get irritated by the legendary treatment they are reading from some of you.

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Roland17:
Sir, they are coming for you but no off your mic. They convulse anytime Arteta is remotely compared. Watch them label you..

Me no get time to shalaye like that again...na you I dey salute your strength here....

They said Emery was the worst, he left for Villarreal, knocked Arsenal our and won that trophy... Took Villarreal to UCL semis, knocked out Bayern ( Remember that Chukwueze's goal) came to England, brought Aston Villa to Europe and now UCL.... beating this Arsenal side twice.... And yet you don't want to admit it was the clowns he inherited or average buys the club gave him that was the problem...

For real, Arterta has done some good jobs, but the standard now at Arsenal cannot be compared to the days of top4, Arsenal paid 100M for a midfielder, 50M for a defender... Buying 2 City stars....

Kai haverts and Raya.big buys that wasn't happening those days... You're expected to be competing for all trophies in the least with that investment...
He is competing for the league, that's very good but nothing extraordinary...

I'm sure Chelsea and Utd would sack their managers next season should they fail to compete meaningfully.

Jodera:
Lmaooo.

Kids like Torreira and Guendouzi?
A whole Torreira don turn kid.

The players you listed, did he meet them here or did he buy them apart from Mustafi?

Partey/Rice Midfield, who bought them? Emery?

Suddenly reaching Europa League final and conference league semi is an achievement, yet Arteta won Fa cup and reached Europa League semi final in his first 1½ season here but Una still deh castigate am.

Arteta revolutionized Xhaka that he left here as a legend, same Xhaka you would have included in your list if not for Arteta.


One day one day, all of Una go tell us wetin Arteta do Una

Emery wanted Partey that year, Torreira wasn't his first choice, Guen was a kid.....my point is Rice and Partey buys were never what previous managers before Arterta benefited..

The Mustafi and other clowns were Wenger's left overs, they almost relegated under Arterta that year, before he was able to turn it around by finishing 8th and Fa cup... Remember that was the beginning of big signings at Arsenal from.White, Partey, Jesus, Zinchemko and others...

It's you guys who belittle Europa final with that squad but overpraised his own Fa cup...
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For Xhaka, For me, he only improved due to the qualities around him here and in Germany.

Lastly, I no too get issue with Arterta, I'm not calling for his sack, but I'm never going to appreciate overpraising him like a Messiah nor allow him to be flexing with no pressure on his jobs.... despite his efforts and lots of good work, he has errors too...

He should have a fear of what happened between Ramsdele/Raya may happen to him too.

FyI, Unai Ebening is about to make UCL football in his first full season with Villa, Remember he took Villa from a relegation zone where Steven Gerrard dropped them...

He was not presented with Mustafi, Sokratis, Luiz,Kolasinac, Litchternier..... While at Arsenal He didn't enjoy a Saliba/ Gabriel

He doesn't have kids like Torreira and Guendozi.... At Arsenal, he didn't enjoy a partey/Rice midfield


Just some decent players and just 1 world best goalkeper, he took them to European semis this year...

He was definitely not the major problem, maybe part.

germaphobe:
During Emery's time the transfer market wasn't this high. In all this back and forth argument, what I know is that Arteta is not leaving Arsenal at the end of season, yes he fxcks up but sometimes the players have to share the blame and not the coach. Would we be here with all these write ups if Arsenal made use of the chances vs Villa at first half?, Would we have crashed out if white had scored that 2nd goal instead of blast at Neur?, What if Gabriel, Saliba and Raya maintained composure at the back, would we have conceded those kind of goals. Some days you guys are compliment Teta for his in-game management and how he has improved greatly on that, and other days we slaughter him here for same. Mistakes are part of the game, losses happen from time to time cus you can't always win, but getting pessimistic and emotional after each loss isn't really my thing.

You're on point....I just do not support the idea of not letting Arterta feel the heat, This was how Wenger started till Arsenal became a near success team all year and later everything capitulated.

germaphobe:
Why didn't emery take us to the UCL?. What's UEL final if you didn't get the trophy?. Wenger played the final too with our finest squad and lost

Why didn't you spend and give ebening time too?

raumdeuter:
Klopp is older and better than Arteta there is no crime in that. With time Arteta will likely gain more experience and become a force too

Despite that, Klopp sef how many he don win?
1 league and 1 CL plus 2 carabao in 9yrs despite being wayyy better and experienced

I agree and that's if Arterta should stop being a starting 11 coach....he needs to learn how to manage squad....Klopp was able to survive the massive injury spells his players had in the season.... Arsenal would have crumbled since if they had that injury list...An Injury to Saliba alone made Arsenal's defense looked ordinary last year.... He should work on squad management and not starting 11 one competition coach.

raumdeuter:
Before Arteta, we're you making top 4 regularly? Prior to Arteta you made top 2 once in 14 seasons prior

Arsenal is guaranteed to make top 4. Before Arteta how many seasons can you say confidently you will make top 4

Arteta made 84points last season that last time you made 84points in the league was 20yrs ago.
You are asking what Arteta has done. Make we no lie make we no sin oh


He bottled the league? Against Pep. You know how many legendary coaches have bottled the league against Pep? Klopp in one season had like an 8points lead on Pep and he bottled it

17 competition won 1. That tends to happen when you are playing against big name coaches with deep pockets too. How many trophies has a more experienced and better Klopp won in how many tries

Any coach no matter how good will look bad when the competition is that stiff

Any manager can be accused of lacking game management and tactics. Of the league top 3, Arteta has taken 4 points off Pep and Klopp. Do you think someone who lacks game management will beat Pep 2 times and draw 1 in 9months or beat Klopp 1 time and draw the other?

What progress has he made post Wenger? We'll you are back to CL quarters for the first time in 14yrs which includes the tenure of Wenger and other coaches after. You are now a firm top 3 side in the league for the first time in almost 20yrs possibly tip 2 if Klopp leaves. Tell me that's not improvement

He crashed out in Europe like many top teams. You are complaining about crashing to one of European legacy and heritage teams what should Liverpool fans do to Klopp who crashed out of Europa quarters that they were favorite to win vs Atalanta

He signed Harvetz made him top earner but your result is showing that you are neck to neck for the title. What more should he do to convince you that he got it right

Signings and waste of funds? Welcome to the real world of a football manager. Pep has a list including Grealish Kalvin Phillips, who knows with Nunes and Kovacic possibly Doku

Abi shey na Klopp no go explain wetin he see for Nunez, Naby Keita, Oxlade, Thiago Sanwo-Olu abi na Karius

Abi make we yabara stol by at Chelsea and Man utd to see wasted transfers?


I dey on mobile I for format the response better

Post Pep and Klopp, Its possible that Arsenal become the top team and league favorites

You are competing currently against coaches that are said to be all timers

Before Arterta Arsenal wasn't spending like he was allowed to...Wenger was making top4 with average players till 2016... Arsenal came 2nd in 2015 all with average buys....

Arterta didn't make top4 in his first 2 seasons, it was after the huge investment and him priotizing the top4 ahead of other competitions.....

Arterta has done fine no doubt but it's not like he has done something out of this world...Arsene and Emery would have gotten 84 points were they have been boosted financially and priotized the league...

Arsenal had a chance against Bayern this year due to bayerns poor form nothing more.

germaphobe:
Thanks for your assertation, now following this what will you say about klopp who have spent 1.2 million and only 1 epl to show for it in 8 seasons, after bottling to man city on couple occasions, bottling champions league and Europa too?

This is not to attack Arterta o, but Klopp brought the much awaited Big trophy Epl and Ucl, just one of those bought him many years and fans never wanted him out....
Klopp over the years eliminated the mighty pep out of UCL, beat Bayern, Barca, PSG played 3 UCL finals couples with some Carabao and Fa cups....

If Arterta drops 1 UCL or EpL, He has immunity for 5years to majority of Arsenal fans.

Roland17:
I say this all the time

Ebening achieved 5th place in the EPL with a UEL final appearance with those clowns. When Arteta dared using those set of clowns, we were nearly relegated and finished 8th for consecutive seasons.

It was at that point Arsenal started investing big, they knew it would be relagation battle with those clowns

Arterta though has tried and deserves some respect, but he benefited from huge buys previous manager didn't have....

If only Arterta can work on his bench, how a manager wants to play with his starting 11 all season is what I don't get, that's why he always perform well in whatever league he wants to compete in.

Same old Same Old
Very soon we would soon have the Arterta knows best and Arterta out brigade . All same old....

My own be say make nobody disrespect Ebening here o.... I don't know the magic any coach would do to make top4 with the defense of Litchntiner, Mustafi, Sokratis, Luiz, Kolasinac

As for Arterta, he has tried but I don't know if sacking him or trusting him is the next thing.

I keep wondering how Utd fans do not rate McTominay,yet he is either scoring or assisting.....
For me, I don't he deserves that much stick,he is always making it up with end product....Well,maybe if I see a factual fan who can analyze him properly without sentiments and emotions.

I would understand Rashford and Anthony's criticism,only if they had been turning up,Utd would have been up there

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BlueRayDick:
I watched a clip of Man utd vs Arsenal 2004 in which man utd won 2-0. I am forced to agree that if there was VAR back in the days, Man utd would most likely not have won as much cups as they did under Ferguson .

That very match was an indicator . Like I saw two different instances man utd players would've been sent off if it was reviewed by VAR . The first goal was even a penalty won through a dive . Neville just carry dangerous tackle nearly break our player leg and he just carry on like that 🥵

Saw the clip too.... Somebody said no wonder Utd are suffering those decisions today

When you have exceptional world class players like KDB and Halland in your team, only then can you dream of UCL and EPL

Don't joke with Liverpool

daveP:
Officially a Grad
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Congratulations bro I hope you won't be doing serious calculations for Arsenal in the UCL group games

daveP:
See, lets be realistic, Pep has 4 players like that in his team that know how to do what I'm suggesting. Arteta na Apprentice. When Oga's formula no dey work anything and time is running out and you're a vision and movement expert, nobody needs to tell you what else to do at such crucial game. Especially when you're a team that recovers possession so fast.


What we needed yesternight was that sorta player. Between 72 and 90min, we had over 31 useless Left to Right passes that wasn't doing nothing to break down or breakthrough. Very useless movements!!! And this is just Lens!!! Lens?!!!!

This is where Managers like Mou are appreciated. Players that can think by themselves and push thru.


Na UCL we dey o!! Lol. With all his instructions, 31 useless back and forth yielded nothing despite having 2 CFs on the pitch.

Thank God Laca and Auba were not the 2 CF. We for don dey hear thousands of insults from fans.

Oga Dave, the match pain you gan ni, I dey see as you dey shalaye upanda since yesterday

I know how it feels but Arsenal would get out of this group, though the Seville both games would determine if 1st or 2nd.

I must say you've raised valid points and I agree with them..my number1 issue with Arterta is he doesn't seem to have planB, he has a very brilliant planA, but poor at planB.

The Transfer window should have been used to source of Saka's deputy who can as well play AM. Every other positions are quited sorted except the RW deputy ...also he doesn't rate his bench players that much ...it is a matter of time the likes of ESR,Nelson, Ramsdele, Trossard would wants out.

Here comes the emotional moment

Thank God, City will not go unbeaten...nobody should break that record..not even Liverpool

Lana1:
Nothing Casemiro with DM these days. As soon as Amrabat is fit he should be starting.

Case -- Amrabat -- Bruno

I no wan see that Eriksen

How ETH doesn't understand this is what I don't get.
Even Tominay will pair well with Casemiro in midfield...Bruno, Mount and Erikson should never be together in the same starting 11 except when chasing a game.

iamoyindamola:
I hope he's ruthless in front of goal he's very strong

Yes, and one day he will get to the level of Nketiah

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Banter go long today on SM

I don't usually hype rivals players but this guy Højlund.

He looks like a problem. Caused Gabriel issues & already seems to have solid link up play.

This guy looks like a monster in the making, insane pace and physique.

Hojlund has that Aura of a strong striker that is built for the premier league.

If he continues that way he might be able to get to the [/b]level of Eddie Nketiah[b].All in all a very promising and positive debut in the 20-25 minutes he played.

I was impressed👏🏽👏🏽
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Some people no go make heaven....

Liverpool just did a Liverpool .. Champion 🏆 stuff

iamoyindamola:
That’s what is surprising me
Because we upgraded from last season with rice for xhaka, we got timber and raya
The only player I don’t understand his purchase is Harvertz and it’s obvious in the team we don’t need him
I hope Josh will be ruthless because he’s spent alot

Hmmm

In paper Rice is an upgrade to Xhaka, but on field, Xhaka's performance last season I know it would be difficult for any new buy to outshine him.

mostob:
I just want to ask a question.... what exactly was Arteta's fault in this match?

What happened to Gabriel, Saliba and Whyte line up?

Why leave a CF on bench for LW?

If Saka is off, no plan B for him?

Are there no youngsters who can be groomed to replace, must he always scatter formation?

Pepper 🌶️ them remain the GOAT of BBN season.... They are dominating the All-stars

Lush100:
I looked at Hatvetz and i can't understand why he didn't go for Barnes of Leicester.

I can't see how harvetz will improve that team.

Our scout let us down and MA didn't do his homework well in this purchase.

If Barnes comes, what will happen to Martinelli and Trossard?

BlueRayDick:
Timber should stop lunging like that, he can either get seriously injured or break an opposing player’s leg in the process

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