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GonFreecss1:
Okay then, can you send us statistical data to back your claims against Nigerian women in Ireland and all the other things you have said here?

Oga i don't have time to argue oh.

It's well , lets continue with why we are all here , which is to invest.

Sholapey:
You think you can just come to say whatever you like? Note! This thread is to give hope to the hopeless and we are like brothers and sisters here and one day, I believe I will meet those who has impacted my life with their wealth of knowledge.

You can never see my name in any other thread on this forum except investment and property section. Your contribution here today shows your kind of person. Thank you for the insult anyway!

Will you stop quoting me.

Did you not see where i said I'm done.

You're far too emotional and literally throwing insults about.

You can't argue with sound logic mixed with experience.

abraolas1:
Good

Just the same way some people thinks Nigeria is a Shithole Country and some People are cashing out Big time ....as analyse by Oga Ahib infact he had to come here to debunk a view about him against anyone travelling abroad just this Morning.

My Point is that we cant reason and experience things the same and we will always have different PERSPECTIVE to issues and my being here is to Learn from folks like you to not see you engage in i am Right kind of argument.

thanks

This is how to process things logically.

We know that men are statistically taller than women by averages but not all men are taller than some women.

So to understand something from an intellectual perspective you need to look at the totality of things.

Hence my conclusions about immigrants in Ireland especially the black ones.

Sholapey:
What do you mean by saying nonsense at the end of your qoute? It shows the kind of person you are. No wonder you found yourself in that condition.

What situation did i find myself in?

Lol you have no idea who i am.

Keep doing that minimum pay job and mixing it with child benefits.

I know your type.

abraolas1:
they? well she is the only Nigerian Irish I know on this platform... and beside a lot of young folks are here who are reading your message and learning one or two things from you. I think there is way we can pass our message without insulting anyone here.......

thanks

There's no insult.

Are Nigerian women social welfare parasites in Ireland .

Answer is yes

Do Nigerians hold high positions in d wider job market in Ireland


Answer is no

Is Ireland a limiting country were you are just comfortable

Answer is yes


Is calling someone out on their bs fable stories about a country, "nonesense" a bad thing

Answer is no

I'm out, believe what you will

Sholapey:
If you cannot make yourself clear without an insult, It's simply means you're emotionally troubled. You're depressed with your condition, I will advise you change your attitude or position.

When did a fact become an insult.

I deal with logic, if you can't explain why Ireland is great in terms of opportunities then you are the emotional one here.

Ikjosh04:
Bro please take it easy. No Entitlement Mentality.

Thank you Ma'am.

Please let's refrain from using question to answer a question.
I've watched a lot of reviews on YouTube about Ireland and also Ireland is the second largest exporter of medical devices in Europe and 15 of the top 20 global medical device companies operate in Ireland so i believe a Msc Biomedical Engineering will usher me into diverse opportunities when I'm in Ireland.
Now, from your experience did you go to Ireland through a study route visa and what did you study and what are you currently doing for a living?
From ny research i also found out Ireland indigenes are lazy people and they drop out from school easily so to thrive in Ireland, one needs to be technically skillful.

Lol.

Irish people don't go to school in a country where the Irish account for 86 percent of the population

So who were d schools built for?

Immigrants i guess lol.

The Nigerian population here is no more than 50 k widely distributed across counties.

Essentially we are an unseen unrecognised group whom they're highly suspicious off.

It's a very small country were it's difficult to break into long standing relationships.

This also affects your potential outcomes when it comes to job opportunities.

All you have to do is check on Google how foreign blacks are marginalised when it comes to job opportunities.

The people telling you they're doing great just ask them where they work, its that simple

Sholapey:
How many people have your contact or knows you on the forum? Well, people that knows me here knows there's nothing hidden about me. If you can not answer my previous questions then you ain't ready to know me either. You're just bluffing!

I know you are looking for investment opportunities in Nigeria.

So im i , essentially we are on a similar trajectory
But your simplistic view about Ireland is flawed.

Not attacking your person though.

Glad to see you're not another statistic , but look at d wider Ireland and you'll see its not all as great as you're implying here.

Mind you I'm here much longer and have also lived in d UK

Even their news articles have reported discrimination and someone is acting like they're in heaven. Nonesense!!

Sholapey:
You talking from your experience, as for me and my circle here in Ireland we pay taxes to government to care for your like minded. Your circle is different from mine!

Lol, where do you work? Simple question.

At best administrator or nurse or care worker.

How did you get citizenship within five years?
. unless you are married to an Irish person or have continuous legal residency.


It's easy to say something is great if there are so many hidden secrets.

Those Nigerian women in Ireland, all they do is born a gazillion children for benefits.
Either frustrate d husband to death or go on single mother payments.

They will now come here and be talking nonesense ,why won't Ireland be good for social welfare parasites

Sholapey:
You just said you're in Ireland. Whereabout are you in Ireland and what do you do for a living? Let's start from there.

Ireland is a shit hole period.

You that you're running up and down to invest in Nigeria lol.

All i need to do is drive out of the house and I'll post how shitty the Nigerian life is around here.

Have you checked the job stats for Nigerians here? , Did you hear about the saga that we are sending home far too much money?

Do you understand the struggle we the early ones put up to make citizenship better ?

You say there's no racism, what a joke.

You are living in a bubble, and i hope you never discover the true Ireland

Sholapey:
If you've never been to Ireland yourself then never judge from afar and never judge a book by it cover. Ireland is a hidden treasure country that people like you look down on not knowing it's a God's own country, where your dreams, purpose, and many more good things comes true. Ireland gave people like me what my country nigeria with all natural resources has denied me. You sound like what you called them!!

Sister sholapey , I'm in Ireland, tell us more about how great it is.

Eg where do you work?

Theconglomerate:
No try that Ireland especially for someone with limited means like you say.
I get homies there but their parents get money so after their studies they have a soft landing spot back here in Nigeria.I don't think you have that,do you?
They are very backward people and are racist meaning they won't even hire a motherland nigga(hardly) so it is very certain you are coming back home after you postgraduate studies to come start afresh again
Go Canada thread I think that 14k you talk about is enough,forget engineering if you ask me.
Look for short professional programs you can do and cash out early like nursing.
One year plus max and you start making 30bucks an hour rather than that engineering you are calling that no one might hire you,you don't even have the funds to study it or they deport your ass immediately after studies to the shithole.
Better than go Ireland in your case better use that money open shop,it will always pay you on the long run if you are serious and consistent.

You are absolutely right. Ireland will help him waste his life . Glad to see honest people talk .

Ikjosh04:
To me, I'm young and going as abroad is a really dicey situation except I'm going to Australia(in which i don't have the financial capacity to do that cause Australia requires huge funds to migrate for a study visa).

Let me give this scenario, a young lad of 24yrs who is financially and economically informed from an average family who is the first born of a family of 9 and is faced with the following options.
1) go to Ireland, UK, USA or Canada for a post graduate study
2)secure a fg job in top parastatals/agency. Let's assume the salary for an entry level position is 250k excluding allowances.
We all know getting the fg job will not be easy but we also know with money and the right connection, one can buy a fg job.

My question to all is, what option will you advise the young lad to choose also bearing in mind his family needs him to start supporting the family financially Asap.

please everyone should and can reply without quoting this post, just click the reply button to air your opinion cause i need to bring down this my comment at the end of today and I don't want it quoted so it won't remain permanently on nairaland
For the 2 options above, the family has the money to sponsor the young lad for any choice he choose.
Cheers!!

Travel out since you're young for exposure and education.

Lower your expectations, even with a big salary abroad you will just be a comfortable guy.

If you really want to blow, after some years living abroad go back before you hit 40. Or you can be shuffling back and forth.

Never overestimate this abroad thing.

Grupo:
Interesting.

What are your friends doing in Nigeria that have given them these multi millions that you talk about?

I'll mention a few of my childhood friends. Shina peller we lived in London together, fayoshe the printer guy, he never left Nigeria.

Loads more , infact all my childhood friends are either millionaire's in Nigeria or they've moved abroad .

But it appears as though those who stayed or returned home are the richest.
Just my observation.

chigo4u:
Some people also want better life for their families. I’ve seen some bank managers relocate their families abroad while they stay back and continue working. It’s also possible

What is this better life you speak off?

To have a better life anywhere in this world you need money.

All my childhood friends who stayed in Nigeria are multi millionaires now.

The ones who i lived with in those days who returned home have also made it big.

Most people living abroad for years are just getting by. All you are going to be is no more than basic.

AMINDA:
Very true. "A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It's where the rich use public transportation" - Gustavo Petrov

You are confusing the jam packed capital towns in Europe like London which Europeans themselves hate to the real Europe which is rural like Ibadan, where everyone especially young university students drive almost brand new cars.

I'm not surprised because most immigrants live in jam packed cities hard to grasp the totality of things

emmanuelewumi:
Bus or Train should not be seen as nonsense if we have a functional Transport system in Nigeria.

You will find out that people can live in Ibadan, Abeokuta etc and be working in Lagos

The pain of waiting for a bus in Europe can be equally painful.

Shebi rain in Europe is the same rain in Nigeria.

Your mentality is just geared to think suffering in Europe is better.

zohan101:
Take it easy o, we arent fighting.We just having a debate and people shouldnt get emotional about this topic please. But to answer your question; I live in Edmonton; a city in alberta.Alberta has got the highest minimum wage of $15 per hour and also the lowest tax rate in Canada.You can check to confirm what I just said.
I live in a flat shared with a flatmate.Rent is $1200 per month(all inclusive of utility bills) and we both pay $600 each..I spend $250-300 on food permonth, monthly bus/train pass of $70;Please before you argue with me on this, its my own expense oo, some1 may have a different monthly expense. So intotal my monthly expense has never exceeded $1500..that lives me with over $3500 for investments.Matter of fact I do invest minimum of $1500(#450,000) monthly im my Naira portfiolio.Same me struggled to save #50k monthly in nigeria while earning #150k permonth as a project engineer in Lagos.


Please like I said earlier its been a rewarding decisioñ for me but I have had of others who regretted after relocation..Abeg make we nor argue am pass like this bros, we all live different lives..#Cheers

Exactly what I hate about living abroad. In my case,i have a property and car . None of that bus nonesense, but I'm i really better off, so much so that I can shit on a lower upper class Nigerian. (not that I want to).


The answer is no, now consider if your job goes, hopefully that'll not happen .


It really isn't heaven. Best for someone who has no life in Nigeria

pluto09:
Binance has really made things easy for Nigerians.
Search for binance and follow the instructions on how to register.
Once you register and your account verified, you can deposit money directly with your mobile banking app or your card.
You can buy busd directly with your naira though I will not advise you to buy at current price.
Price today is between N437 and N450.

I will be glad to answer any other question you may have here.

I have a binance account but i can't seem to navigate the app.

What is busd?

Can i convert Naira to dollars on binance.

Please explain. Thanks

osamz007:
Bro, hausa babes dey easy?

I can't generalise, but it seems you can access the poor ones easily i think.

.

Another one, i tire for this country.

Protest against the government, no .

They prefer to kill another hungry man.


Their brain is just faulty.

People who are supposed to enlighten them are miss educating them.

I think it's safe all hope is lost.

Newbie question, what do you guys do when you're stock price falls dramatically?

Do you sell, buy more or simply wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7JxhtebIss

Finance seeks new fields for exploitation.

Watch to understand the world you live in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96p2YzHBi5o

maximusprime2000:
When our government that has the power and resources to make a change resorts to looting and corruption what do you a common man do. U have been a slave in your own land all this while.

They don't have any power in the global stage.

The global economy is rigged in favour of the west.

Without corruption Nigeria is not really a rich country because of low revenues.

It's the same everywhere, except in countries that align with the petrol dollar deal


4.5 billion people live in poverty worldwide but the west keep advancing ask yourself why



The Chinese that are trying to combat the system are being suppressed.

I always feel sorry for Nigerians when I read all these heart breaking comments.

Someone said they'll rather be homeless in America than live in Nigeria.

God please send help to your people because one thing for sure there'll be stricter immigration rules going forward, Nigeria must get better for those who can't escape.

Dum4christ:
It is called being grateful. You sound like a sadist!!!

The mindset of an uneducated guy, why should I be grateful?

I pay taxes and the government has a social contract with me to subsidize my living based on my contributions via taxes .

It's not that deep brah ..

Phelixblaq:
Believe it bro, some people are just so dumb. You went to another mans country on a visitor visa without any skill and you refuse to develop yourself even after getting stay. You want to compare yourself with someone that went to the country on a study route with more information on how to build himself from the scratch??

You are the dumbest person on this thread just throwing insults even the op is civil and we have exchanged ideas
. whether I'm right or wrong time will tell and experience is the best teacher.


I studied in England before moving to Ireland , I have experienced both countries and see the differing opportunities.

I'm. Comparing like for like, but your dumbass has comprehension problems and assume a lot about people you don't know.

Even worse from how you argue you've probably never left Nigeria hence why you're so embittered that someone has the nerve to criticize a country you can only dream to enter.

We are waiting for you .. come and pick money on the streets..

They don't even care about qualifications here it's experience that counts , your mumu self is talking about developing skills... Lol

The American student doctors here had to leave because of stringent rules around visa policies that limits their potentials, so which kind mumu skills you think say you get wey Ireland go open yansh for u.

Nonesense and ingredients

InvestorsMind:
Smh..... There's no worse disease than ignorance. But some people can lie sha ... Ireland is actually a fantastic country. Once the richest country in Europe years ago. At the moment it is only lazy people with entitlement mindset with unrealistic expectations will call Ireland a shithole:


From FORBES-


Ireland

GDP $332 B
As of December 2018
At a Glance
GDP Growth: 7.2%
GDP per Capita: $69,300
Trade Balance/GDP: 8.5%
Population: 5.1M
Public Debt/GDP: 69%
Unemployment: 6.7%
Inflation: 0.3%

Forbes Lists

#11 Best Countries for Business

Profile:

Ireland is a small, modern, trade-dependent economy. It was among the initial group of 12 EU nations that began circulating the euro on 1 January 2002. GDP growth averaged 6% in 1995-2007, but economic activity dropped sharply during the world financial crisis and the subsequent collapse of its domestic property market and construction industry during 2008-11. Faced with sharply reduced revenues and a burgeoning budget deficit from efforts to stabilize its fragile banking sector, the Irish Government introduced the first in a series of draconian budgets in 2009. These measures were not sufficient to stabilize Ireland’s public finances.


In 2010, the budget deficit reached 32.4% of GDP - the world's largest deficit, as a percentage of GDP. In late 2010, the former COWEN government agreed to a $92 billion loan package from the EU and IMF to help Dublin recapitalize Ireland’s banking sector and avoid defaulting on its sovereign debt. In March 2011, the KENNY government intensified austerity measures to meet the deficit targets under Ireland's EU-IMF bailout program. In late 2013, Ireland formally exited its EU-IMF bailout program, benefiting from its strict adherence to deficit-reduction targets and success in refinancing a large amount of banking-related debt. In 2014, the economy rapidly picked up. In late 2014, the government introduced a fiscally neutral budget, marking the end of the austerity program. Continued growth of tax receipts has allowed the government to lower some taxes and increase public spending while keeping to its deficit-reduction targets. In 2015, GDP growth exceeded 26%. The magnitude of the increase reflected one-off statistical revisions, multinational corporate restructurings in intellectual property, and the aircraft leasing sector, rather than real gains in the domestic economy, which was still growing.


Growth moderated to around 4.1% in 2017, but the recovering economy assisted lowering the deficit to 0.6% of GDP. In the wake of the collapse of the construction sector and the downturn in consumer spending and business investment during the 2008-11 economic crisis, the export sector, dominated by foreign multinationals, has become an even more important component of Ireland's economy. Ireland’s low corporation tax of 12.5% and a talented pool of high-tech laborers have been some of the key factors in encouraging business investment. Loose tax residency requirements made Ireland a common destination for international firms seeking to pay less tax or, in the case of U.S. multinationals, defer taxation owed to the United States.


In 2014, amid growing international pressure, the Irish government announced it would phase in more stringent tax laws, effectively closing a commonly used loophole.


The Irish economy continued to grow in 2017 and is forecast to do so through 2019, supported by a strong export sector, robust job growth, and low inflation, to the point that the Government must now address concerns about overheating and potential loss of competitiveness. The greatest risks to the economy are the UK’s scheduled departure from the European Union (“Brexit”) in March 2019, possible changes to international taxation policies that could affect Ireland’s revenues, and global trade pressures.

Rankings:

Trade Freedom 21

Monetary Freedom 8

Property Rights 19

Innovation 21

Technology 41

Red Tape 10

Investor Protection 14

Corruption 19

Personal Freedom 1

Tax Burden 4

Source- https://www.forbes.com/places/ireland/

Should we go ahead and post that of Nigeria?

Ireland is fantastic on paper, average in reality.

That's why I keep saying you can't understand things just by reading online.

Did you know that the high gdp in Ireland is bogus and most of the growth is due to the multi nationals?

They inflate the GDP to attract investors and lower their co operation taxes .

The 2008 recession exposed Ireland for what it is when most of those companies left.


Brah you don't know jack shit , Irish people are predominantly farmers... Everything else.... Mostly is via fdis.

All in Ireland is definitely better than Nigeria but a horrible place for an ambitious well educated young Nigerian.