₦airaland Forum

andrew444:
Neymar that was injured from the Madrid champions league 1st leg and was declared fit 1 week to the World Cup and he still managed 25 goals so what are you saying ?

Yes salah had a wonderful season but let him continue that form okay,because of one season doesn't make him better than Neymar.

English media has been calling harry Kane one of the best strikers in the world,I had no choice than to agree with them because this guy has been constitent for 3 seasons now in the Epl.

If you call Liverpool weak then you don't watch football,a weak team in the champions league final right ? A weak team can never make the champions league final.

salah did well throughout his stay in Roma so it's unfair to call him a season player. Mbappe is yet to do anything special so we will have to watch him some more

GutsOverFear:
Oga stop saying shit..

Neymar can never come close to as good as Ronaldo or Messi.. Is it when he's 30..

Or maybe you should improve your comprehension skills. I was only talking about dribbling skills and trust me other than speed, elevation and accuracy Neymar has better football skills than ronaldo

babakb:
Foolishboy abeg you dey for Messi Payroll?

Ask me again.

[quote author=Goodness4525 post=69116584][/quote]Thank you very much for that. Its unfair to compare someone that has more goals+assists in fewer games to someone with high goals and little assists. They only argue with semtiments like touts

AmuEwu:
Lol
Messi is talented no doubt, but Neymar is out of this world
Messi has only one major skill, ( I'm talking about the skill that brought him to limelight)
The one major skill that Messi has is that his mazy runs...That is how fast he can change direction while running

Messi hardly does any other trick

Neymar on the other hand has a vast range of tricks he can do
Bros believe me there are many dribbling tricks that Neymar can do, that Messi can't do



Note : I am talking about pure football talent. Not other things like passing and free kick that Messi learnt with time... If you add this things Messi is the best player in history

But when it comes to pure talent and diverse skill, Neymar is more skillfull

Dont be too sure though. Most players that like showboating always seem to be the best dribblers. Neymar loses a lot of ball possession as a result of that unlike Messi who strictly dribbles to get past opponents. That said i think Neymar is almost as good as messi or might even become better in future

GutsOverFear:
I'd choose Douglas Costa over you any day any time..

Bcoz Brazil produce world footballers more than any other countries; Brazilian legends are trying desperately to hype Neymar and make world footballer out of him..

Truth be told, as it stands now he's currently trailing Hazard, Salah, Mbape, Kane, Sane, daybala and Isco in the race for world footballer.

He might not even win it in his entire career.

Though I'm a Messi fan but I would advise Ronaldo to please leave Madrid b4 this proud boy comes. Bcoz he's too way above him to start dragging pk and freek kicks with him..

Why mbappe?

Sure the boy has the potentials to become great but i think its too early to compare the likes of salah and Hazard with him. That was how we overrated Balotelli untill he became a failure.

I dont know whether im saying this because i like neymar a bit ( a bit because i hate arrogant people) but i think he tried in the second half. He gave Coutinho a perfect opportunity to equalize but coutinho messed up

GutsOverFear:
I'd choose Douglas Costa over you any day any time..

Bcoz Brazil produce world footballers more than any other countries; Brazilian legends are trying desperately to hype Neymar and make world footballer out of him..

Truth be told, as it stands now he's currently trailing Hazard, Salah, Mbape, Kane, Sane, daybala and Isco in the race for world footballer.

He might not even win it in his entire career.

Though I'm a Messi fan but I would advise Ronaldo to please leave Madrid b4 this proud boy comes. Bcoz he's too way above him to start dragging pk and freek kicks with him..

Why mbappe?

Sure the boy has the potentials to become great but i think its too early to compare the likes of salah and Hazard with him. That was how we overrated Balotelli untill he became a failure.

Dansnow:
Ronaldo played in the EPL where it is harder scoring goals b4 he went to LA Liga. If Messi can go to the EPL we will check if he can score 30 goals in a season. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. ...

Salah maintained his form from Roma in Liverpool and Suarez, coutinho and bale were good in EPL but were still outperformed by the same Messi. You are only looking for excuses. EPL is my favourite but I think we are overrating it. Our teams always struggle with teams from other leagues

DONADAMS:
all these messi fan boys are hypocrites,, sorry to say...okay,,if we talk of goals they'll say ronaldo has more than messi cos he started football before messi...buh if we come to thier Spanish records they'll forget that messi started la liga far before ronaldo..now you guys said messi is the best..let me assume I agree..buh please... be honest compare their stats since c.boy joined Madrid...and check thier ages...haba

Let me bring it down to the level of your intelligence.

Player A has 25 Goals in 30 Matches and Player B has 30 goals in 45 matches.

Player B has more goals but on the average and when you compare their goals, Player A has a better scoring rate than player B.

No body is talking about who started first

greatman247:
No matter how you see it. messi was a dwarf. He got injected at some point which helps his growth and it is widely believe that that would have even enhanced his performance on the field of play and if that is the case, that is a cheat. All these are more reasons why Messi does not want to leave Barca. He knows he will be exposed. There is something Barca have been hiding which they don't want to be known to the world about Messi.

Your argument about Ronaldo's red card does not stand. Even if you call him a thug, it does not really matter. Catona of Man United was more rootless and exhibited bad attitudes, it does not really matter so long he keeps bringing results to the club and makes him a better player. Most persons have bad attitude so long it does not clash with his responsibility or with his work ethic. Ronaldo is more complete player. The statistics are there. Hater, open your eyes.

If the idiotic conspiracy theory of yours had any atom of truth the press, Rivals and fans would have made so much noise about it and messi and barcelona would have been sued a very long time ago but i dont blame you. Messi is too good for you to believe he is a normal human being. Even steroids wouldnt be much of a help to messi cos he relies more on dribbles , passes and accuracy. You can keep calling him a dwarf. I have played my part in trying to emancipate you from stupidity and ignorance

You talked about personality and i proved you wrong then you are now telling me that "its all about result". Stats will always remind us that messi has better accuracy, better goal ratios, better assists, more created chances, less red cards/ yellow cards, more sportsmanship, more team play and more dribbles Aurevoir

greatman247:
You obviously still lack point. Ronaldo don't end each season without an assist. You have to come clean. Go check all seasons he does have assist too and stop the hate. Its clear he scores more goals and get the job done. When you realised this, you suddenly tries to save your face by coming with such excuse? You are so pathetic. Ronaldo does his talking on the field by getting the job done. When you don't have anymore point to back your claim you said anyone that give more assist is better than who scores more goals and zero assist as if Ronaldo only score without a single assist. Man, repent and stop living the moniker you bear on here. Lol.

You said Messi didn't performed poorly at this year world cup in Russia, just one goal at the world cup and successful numbers of dribbles. That was why I said you know nothing about football. Who gives a Bleep about successful dribbles? Does it earn Argentina any goal? Does it help Argentina win against France? What happens to Argentina in the end, they absolutely left the tournament. What's the essence of a player that dribbles all day and yet couldn't finish off the ball in his opponent net? Again a good player don't have time to hold on balls, dribble too much but to score and assist. A good player get the job done and become a great finisher. This are what your messi lacks.

Bleep Fabregas, you use useless people quotes. If Fabregas was good enough to analyse football how come he has never helped his club, Chelsea. How come he left Barca of all club the manner he left? How come responsibility of Chelsea rest on Hazard and co and not Fabegas? How come Spain dropped him at this year world cup? How come He didn't feature for his country? These are questions you need to ask yourself. Fabregas is not a good player and it only takes a great player to recognise another great player. Great they say recognise great. Fab is never a great player. He will always be on the side of Messi because they had once played in the same club. Ronaldo do the talking on the field. Fab was only mad that his demi god, Messi didn't performed better than Ronaldo the way he likes so he had to come up with an excuse that Ronaldo didn't score a spectacular goal. No such thing. Goal is goal, no matter how it is scored. So long it's counted and approves. Fab was only mad that Messi flopped at the world cup. Lol.

Yes Ronaldo, is leaving Real Madrid cos of money not just that, to also prove critics wrong, especially critics like you that he can survive anywhere, unlike your Messi who has be so scare to Risk. Yes I support Ronaldo decision to leave. If you had known the story behind this you won't talk the way you do. I support his decisions all the way. He feels he plays better than anybody including Messi and he puts in more work than any player in the world and yet he was not be paid more. And the club disrespected him and so he had to leave.

Barca supports Messi more, during his tax case, the club supported him and Real didn't don't the same for Ronaldo. A player that had given you a lot in terms of results and trophies that no player has ever done in history. He wrote the name of the club in gold and in history that have never been done before. The president told him he will review his salary when he wins UEFA and he actually don't believe Ronaldo will be able to win it but he won and after UEFA, Ronaldo called him for a meeting and the president was playing hide and sick games. Instead he was trying to sign other players like Neymer to Real Madrid. When Ronaldo realizes this, he also tried to ditch the President of Real Madrid and to pay him back for back stabbing. I support Ronaldo on his decision, 100%. So do a thorough research before you talk.

Mind you, in my earlier post I said do your research well before you talk to me. Stop using just Pele as your example for stagnant player who stay put in a club all his life. By the way, Pele did not play for just one club like your Messi. Do your research well. Again you failed.

1)As usual a long post with zero sense. No body said ronaldo doesnt assist but somebody who combines many goals and many assists is better than someone with many goals (That a great chunk comes from penalties) alone. Besides, Messi has a better goal ratio than penaldo. He played in 150 matches less but their goals are still not that separate.

2) You are still repeating that nonsense. Argentina was obviously not serious about the world cup right from the qualifiers especially sampoli. Messi was the main reason why they were there. I really should ask you where ronaldo was when Argentina grabbed the silver medal at the world cup amd messi won the golden boot (Winning man of the match and at almost every game) Its only a dumb newbie that will say dribbles are useless. But i dont blame you cos your penaldo waits for his teammates to do that for him and give him the ball at the box. Go and say that to Maradona. How does one create chances if not by dribbling and giving accurate passes? You are a disgrace to football fans

4) Maybe you ought to start teaching fabregas if he is that bad to you or maybe you can analyse football better than someone with professional experience. Respect is given to those who deserve it. He never said ronaldo was bad but there was too much hype which they didnt deserve. Portugal was dominated in all of its matches especially the one against morocco but set pieces saved them. For you not to represent even kaduna united shows that you are much more useless than fabregas



5) That is the lamest excuse ever. Somebody gave all the evidence that he is leaving solely because he wants to be paid higher and you are talking of challenge. If he really wants challenge Arsenal, Ac Milan and many others are there. Why pick a 5-star team that will continue doing all of the tough work (Dribbles, tackles, etc) and give him ball to score? Tell me the weak club he has been to. Man united, Real or juventus? Joker. Btw i never said that he wouldnt do well if he leaves madrid for a good club but why not join arsenal and prove we doubters? Why Juventus?

6) Real madrid simply refused to give him more money because they know that he isnt that important. They know that the mid fielders and defenders make ronaldo and not that ronaldo makes the whole team. Even Fellaini would do as good as ronaldo given the calibre of players that surround him. Messi takes barcelona as a family thats why they supported him but ronaldo is more concerned about personal achievements and profit and has only business relationship with madrid. He can sink alone afterall nobody told him to defraud the govt (What goes around comes around )

7) How many clubs did pele play for and compare their durations. One doesnt have to move from one place to another to be the best. Iniesta is still active but most people see him as a retired player as far as they are concerned. If Messi leaves barca today it will be felt because he does more than just scoring but ronaldo will not be missed and Bale might do even better than him (as he proved at the finals). We can bet on that if you are ready. Messi remains the goat and i believe by the time he clocks 36 he might go to another league ( Which isnt even necsmessary).

[quote author=Dansnow post=69145962][/quote]Its like you are a learner. That is the excuse players always give but even ronaldo threatened to leave madrid should they not pay him as high as neymar... something that madrid promised him. Google it and wee

Marcelo should have fired a shot

Childish nonsense.

Jokerman:
Buh Ronaldo has more assists than Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho,Zizou and many more.....

This is strictly a messi vs ronaldo argument.

ELKHALIFAISIS:
sharap I'm not Madrid fans, i even hate them more than I hate barca... but the truth most be told, CR7 once detest me until I start noticing the personalities that surrounded him on & off pitch, he is the greatest of his kind... messi is not a midget but a dwarf

For you to call a 5'7 player a dwarf shows alot about your ignorance and sheer hatred. Messi's personality is much better than that of ronaldo. Everyone accepts that. While Messi hardly attacks other players, Ronaldo is known for being aggressive to players and referees. While Messi is humble and introverted, ronaldo is boastful, arrogant and aggressive. He is known for throwing away an interviewers camera, known for insulting his team mates (Bale) and disrespecting his coaches (Mourinho). Even as a chils he once threw a chair at his teacher.He is known to be unhappy when his teammates score (At the UCL finals) and even in his match against Iran he elbowed a player. He was lucky to get a yellow.

Messi has only one red card and 68 Yellows while penaldo has 10 red cards and 132 Yellows. Unless you are a thug you cant prefer his personality to that of messi.

zinaunreal:
Let messi go and create those chances elsewhere.

What if he doesnt feel like it? That ronaldo keeps moving doesnt mean he must join him. If not that madrid has refused to improve his contract and his tax fraud would he have left? NO. Messi didnt tell ronaldo to cheat the govt so why must he leave?

Ovie56:
chai see a man utd fan saying Ronaldo who spent 6 years on the right wing is an opportunistic and dependant striker. you made yourself look stvpid, you shouldn't have added that you're a utd fan, some football fan don't know how to troll sha

Why not counter me. If you cant counter me then you are the one that is looking stvpid. Somebody whose presence is never noted in a match until he gets a dead ball or a final assist is nothing to write about. You can continue crying. Even the person i replied has not been able to counter me

ELKHALIFAISIS:
maybe he played less offensive side eagles.... measure your weight with someone within your range... the midget sorry dwarf is not anywhere legendary

Just like he played a superior iceland i guess. If being a midget can make someone achieve what messi has achieved you would kill to become a midget. Keep hating. 5'7 is an average height but Madrid fans are too dumb and ignorant to know this

samirnasri:
Brother, Ronaldo also has nothing to prove. In as much as I am a fan of Messi, Ronaldo is a fantastic player. I very much believe Ronaldo is leaving because of the way he was treated the previous season, both by the Spanish tax authorities and Real Madrid, When he didn't start the season on a good note. Remember he almost wanted to leave last season too.

And mind you, Juventus is a big team no matter how you look at it. They have been in the champions final before. They have won their league for 3 or 4 seasons straight. They almost knocked Madrid out of the champions league last season. Don't make it sound as if he is going to Everton or AC Milan.

Even if Ronaldo had stayed in Man U all his life and still achieved what he did, I wouldn't rubbish his achievements.

Dont mind him. Despite my love for Man u i think Juventus is probably even better than man united. They always win their league and almost eliminated madrid if not for the late penalty that could have been overlooked. If ronaldo wants to impress tge world as they are trying to paint it there are rich sunken teams like Arsenal that can pay him big not a good team like juventus

greatman247:
Let your Messi go and beat Ronaldo history. Let him go and collect UEFA back to back 3 times and score 50+ goals for 7 straight seasons. Messi is normal player he was just overhyped player that is only good with just one leg, Ronald is able to use both legs effectively. Not on the same class with Ronaldo. All his Ballon D'or are not well deserved. He was a dwarf and got injected at some point and all these may have enhanced his performance. If he was truly a world class player how come he has not achieve a thing with Argentina? He already knew his career will end if he leaves Barca. If he will still shine in other team or club you will know when he has been playing with Argentina. Argentina is perfect test for him that he may fail in other clubs. Let him go to Germany, or Italy or even England or better still France.

If he was so good how come with the world class players in Argentina they still performed poorly. Argentina is a better side with better team and great players than Portugal. Only Ronaldo is the only world class player in Portugal and yet he won major trophy with Portugal. But Argentina won nothing with Messi and his team of great players. Even in Russia 2018, Argentina was favorite and yet they failed. As bad as Portugal was they still played the same numbers of matches as Argentina and Ronaldo was even able to prove himself and scored more goals with his bad team and yet Messi with great team of players scored only goal.

You are not saying anything different. Messi is not stingy like ronaldo. He lets suarez and others play set pieces and he always ends his seasons with most assists. That alone explains why ronaldo has more goals. Somebody with 20 goals and 10 assists is better than someone with 25 goals and 0 assists. Ronaldo didnt win the ucl alone. Real madrid did. At the finals he was as good as absent and that is a case of Madrid vs barcelona. But that aside, why is it that Messi always wins man of the match award even when he doesnt score? Why does he dribble better and why does he always have better assits and less red cards? Did ronaldo deserve his 2013 ballon d'or? You made me laugh when you talked about injection. Messi doesnt rely on excessive strenght to deliver unlike penaldo so your claim is absurd. Messi has a FIFA golden boot and is a world cup silver medalist. The portugal that you are bragging about won the finals without ronaldo meaning that they dont depend on him. Its also stupid to say the likes of Pepe are average players.

Argentina has good players, true but what have they done? Its not Messis fault that they failed to perform and he played his part by creating chances as usual. No wonder he was fouled severally. Ronaldo didnt score any spectacular goal at the world cup. Even Fabregas stated that. and Messi didnt perform that poorly. His one goal, 2 assists and successful dribbles still speak for him unlike tge ghost worker.

Just like Pele, Messi remains loyal and will forever continue to be compared with legends like maradona while ronaldo will be remembered for scoring goals and nothing else spectacular. And what else, Ronaldo is leaving madrid only because they refused to give him more money not because he is looking for new challenges as ignorant people like you are trying to imply

greatman247:
Let your Messi go and beat Ronaldo history. Let him go and collect UEFA back to back 3 times and score 50+ goals for 7 straight seasons. Messi is normal player he was just overhyped player that is only good with just one leg, Ronald is able to use both legs effectively. Not on the same class with Ronaldo. All his Ballon D'or are not well deserved. He was a dwarf and got injected at some point and all these may have enhanced his performance. If he was truly a world class player how come he has not achieve a thing with Argentina? He already knew his career will end if he leaves Barca. If he will still shine in other team or club you will know when he has been playing with Argentina. Argentina is perfect test for him that he may fail in other clubs. Let him go to Germany, or Italy or even England or better still France.

If he was so good how come with the world class players in Argentina they still performed poorly. Argentina is a better side with better team and great players than Portugal. Only Ronaldo is the only world class player in Portugal and yet he won major trophy with Portugal. But Argentina won nothing with Messi and his team of great players. Even in Russia 2018, Argentina was favorite and yet they failed. As bad as Portugal was they still played the same numbers of matches as Argentina and Ronaldo was even able to prove himself and scored more goals with his bad team and yet Messi with great team of players scored only goal.

You are not saying anything different. Messi is not stingy like ronaldo. He lets suarez and others play set pieces and he always ends his seasons with most assists. That alone explains why ronaldo has more goals. Somebody with 20 goals and 10 assists is better than someone with 25 goals and 0 assists. Ronaldo didnt win the ucl alone. Real madrid did. At the finals he was as good as absent and that is a case of Madrid vs barcelona. But that aside, why is it that Messi always wins man of the match award even when he doesnt score? Why does he dribble better and why does he always have better assits and less red cards? Did ronaldo deserve his 2013 ballon d'or? You made me laugh when you talked about injection. Messi doesnt rely on excessive strenght to deliver unlike penaldo so your claim is absurd. Messi has a FIFA golden boot and is a world cup silver medalist. The portugal that you are bragging about won the finals without ronaldo meaning that they dont depend on him. Its also stupid to say the likes of Pepe are average players.

Argentina has good players, true but what have they done? Its not Messis fault that they failed to perform and he played his part by creating chances as usual. No wonder he was fouled severally. Ronaldo didnt score any spectacular goal at the world cup. Even Fabregas stated that. and Messi didnt perform that poorly. His one goal, 2 assists and successful dribbles still speak for him unlike tge ghost worker.

Just like Pele, Messi remains loyal and will forever continue to be compared with legends like maradona while ronaldo will be remembered for scoring goals and nothing else spectacular.

Dansnow:
Don't even drag Lord Zlatan into this. He is a god. He played in the top four leagues and performed excellent. See him at LA Galaxy now, still scoring unbelievable goals.

Am i not praising him? Dude said Barca players do not leave la liga to prove themselves and i showed him ibrahimovic (somebody that is overall more skilled than ronaldo as far as im concerned). If not for money ronaldo wouldnt have left madrid but ibrahimovic chose 3 million offer over the 100 million offer from china

Dansnow:
So u said Ronaldo scored a penalty, a free kick and a shot towards keeper. In Messi's first match in the world cup the next day he got a penalty, a free kick and direct shots but he did not score any of them, he totally missed. Bro Messi is also a very great player but that example you gave don't look good for him.

And ronaldo subsequently got the chances again including the penalty and failed to score.

ELKHALIFAISIS:
why he couldn't run with the ball and score against top notch like Croatia, Iceland and France... but only active immediately he saw weaker opposition like super eagles... the midget is nowhere near legendary...

Maybe you were blind when they were kicking him all over. Moreover, why did all of ronaldos goals come from set pieces?

Olifiz:
Calm down. This is the only time Messi played in the Argentine team he under played to an extent.
We all know the Argentine team in general didn’t play well this World Cup. Same as Germany. So will u say becos Germany didn’t play well it means muller won’t play well in an English or Spanish team. That thinking is very myopic. They are professionals for crying out loud. Even during their qualifiers Argentina played woefully. It had to be Messi with he’s brilliance to make them qualify.

Pls let’s call a spade a spade. because a player just played in a team u say he’s not good. Talk about scholes, gigs, iniesta, xavi, maldini, nesta, etc. Ronaldo is good I love him he’s brilliant but there are just so much Messi does better. Check stats. Have u noticed if Ronaldo doesn’t score in a game it’s as if he didn’t play because that’s the only thing that makes people notice him in s match. But Messi will dribble u will see, u will foul him while dribbling a player u will see it, he will make almost impossible assists u will see him n still will score then u will still see that. That’s why Messi have more “man of the match” records than Ronaldo. Even almost have the highest ever. Even in el Classico that is very tough n both players on the same pitch Messi always outshines Ronaldo. It’s always like Messi vs Real Madrid.

Messi have always been compared with the likes of pele n maradona who are legends because they were complete players. They can score dribble assists they are maestros, Messi is an outstanding maestro but no commentator of professional football annalyst have ever compared ronaldo do pele or maradona. Ronaldo is just a goal scoring machine. But Messi in a whole year still scores more goal than him. Messi is the current euro golden boot holder.

The guy just wants to argue. Ronaldo is just a ghost worker who depends on his teams performance. You nailed everything right. without set pieces and positioning Ronaldo is just another average player unlike messi who with or without scoring, his presence will always be noticed

briggz09:
Playing in the Argentine team is glimpse of how terrible Messi would fit into another team asides Barca.

If messi who reached 3 finals including world cup and won the golden boot is useless to Argentina then you must be out of your mind

Moukandjo:
You've just typed a whole load of crap! You could have written a shorter post to minimize the crap! I don't even know where to start tackling you from!
First question: What did C.Ronaldo do/achieve at Lisbon?
Second question: Can you tell me just ONE good reason why C.Ronaldo won the Balon D'or in 2013?
Again, saying C.Ronaldo didn't have enough great players at Man Utd simply because you want to hype him is the stvpidest thing ever! What the hell!

They only know how to rant. Manchester was among the best teams in the world during ronaldos era.

greatman247:
Oga go sleep you no get point. Your Moniker says it all, Foolishboy419 you are indeed. Lol.

Now lets back to real business of the day. Let messi go to another established club in other league too period before you can talk. He already knew he will be exposed. Barca have been protecting him and his career. Two of his Ballon d'or were not well deserved, they gave him Because he was playing for Barca, UEFA President was once Barca Player Westley Sneijder deserved it.

Ronaldo deserved all his Ballon D'or and worked for them unlike Messi who they robbed people just to award him cos he plays for Barca, same club as the president of UEFA. Lol.

Neymer broke away from Barca cos he was tired to be under Messi shadow. He moved away to prove a point. You don't expect a player of that class to play for Stoke city? Of course only big gunz will come to buy them, hence why Ronaldo is going to Juventus. Let your small club come with the big money I'm very sure Ronaldo will go to prove a point to the world.

Real players prove point on field of play. Real player prove by going to different clubs and league to conquer. You don't just stay put in one club and claim best player. Let's see what you can do in other league. Until that time, people like you need to shut up forever.

Mind you, even if Ronaldo go to any small club like Stoke City or even Leicester he will still be successful cos he is a better leader than Messi. He proved that in Russia 2018 World Cup also in the past with club and country. Messi country keep failing despite his presence and so much world class players that abound in Argentina team.


Messi was exposed in match against Croatia, and was caged against France. He has been successful in Barca due to the fact that Barca has a lot of experience players who are very good and they supply him. Take away all the great players in Barca and let's see what he can do. Ronaldo has been successful in Man Utd, remember Man Utd don't have enough great players during his time at Man Utd as Barca do and yet he was world best then. No world class players in Spotting Lisbon then and yet he proved himself. Let Messi go to clubs like PSG, Chelsea, Beryan Munich, Juventus, Man City etc at least these are big clubs, let's see if his career will remain the same.

Ronaldo continue to prove himself as the better player. He won more awards than your Messi, score more even though he is more older. Ronaldo the only player that score 50+ goals seven times consecutively in a single year. No way your Messi can achieve this. He won with his clubs and country and Messi is yet to win with Argentina. Lol. He won the UEFA champions League back to back the 3rd time consecutively. Your Messi will never be able to achieve this till he resigns. How else would you know a better player. All the achievement is hard to break and they are out there for you to check.

So much words and not even one paragraph makes sense.

1) A lot of great players who stayed in one club are still considered one of the best in history and no analyst, legend or coach has ever stated that one must leave his club before he can be considered great. Messi's dribbling skills doesnt require his teams influence and on so many occassions he has run with a ball all the way to his opponents halve and scored (something that ronaldo hardly does). What is his teams role on that? And as for the ballon d'or, tell me what what ronaldo did in 2013 to be given one. Its also ignorant of you to say that UEFA president chose him. In case you dont know best players are voted.

2) Neymar ran away because his classy performance is always eclipsed by Messi and now that he has left, he will be a king in league one but he still remains under Messi until the day he retires. Even Neymar himself has stated it and by the way, why is neymar still good since he left barca? It should be expected that he becomes "exposed" after leaving barca. Same thing with the likes of Ibrahimovic.

3) so barca players do not leave right? Such a dumb post can only come from a blind madrid fan. Mention one ex madrid player that has done better than neymar, ibrahimovic or ronaldinho. Is it ozil or di maria?

4) What makes ronaldo a better leader please? He can easily go to a small club if he wants. Ibrahimovic was offered over 100 million to go to China but he chose 3 million to join LA Galaxy. Arent you aware of that? I dont think i need to present The stats of Portugal vs Iran and Morocco. They were outclassed. More shots, more passes, more dribbles. Ronaldo was a mere statue but messi although he never scored, he helped to create chances and performed good dribbles. Maybe you started watching the world cup in 2018. Messi reached the final in 2014 and even won a FIFA golden boot at the world cup. How does that make him useless? At what stage was rinaldo eliminated then? Mind you Argentina's main contributor at the qualifyiers was still Messi. Their only issue was terrible coaching. Ronaldos goals: Very lousy shot made towards the goal keeper which de gea failed to hold(keeper error). a penalty, a free kick. Go and watch portugal vs iceland. He was caged like a dog so much that he had to blast them on the media. 10 shots and no goal but no its only messi that your eyes are on and you know what? unlike ronaldo, messi was still able to contibute to his team by snatching balls and making attempts unlike penaldo.

5) Man u didnt have great players you say? I hope you kniw that im a Man United fan? When did giggs, scholes, Rooney and the legendary Van der sar become "average" in history? You must be a joker.



6) With or without leaving, Messi remains the best. With or without scoring, you always notice him on the pitch (creating chances, fantastic dribbles, experts passing/ assists and chasing ball) unlike penaldo who is a ghost worker always waiting for final pass. No wonder most of his goals look like offsides. Ronaldo has more goals yes but have you ever bothered to consider their appearances? Ronaldo played in almost 200 games more.Go and check their goal ratios instead of embarrassing yourself. Besides, Messi not only has better goal records than ronaldo, But still more assists than Ronaldo, more dribbles than ronaldo, less red cards than ronaldo and more chances created. That says a lot. As for the back to back champions league, What can you say about the 2 offside goals against bayern, the unnecessary penalty awarded to madrid when their elimination by juventus was imminent? Lol. In the international tournament the final was won without ronaldo meaning that they dont need him at all.

isnt it shameful that a midfielder has much better stats than an opportunistic and dependent striker? I also hope you know that Ronaldo is only leaving because madrid have refused to give him more money? He isnt leaving because he wants to prove himself. He is only looking for money.

And finally, how many clubs did Pele play for?
I dont think i can continue wasting my time on you

Olifiz:
It’s funny u had a lot of time to type all these rubbish.

Pls check stats. U will know Ronaldo game plan had just been straight forward. Only for goals attaining the best positions so as to score. No dribbles less n mostly feed off balls passed to him from Marcelo, mordric, kroos, casimero etc. also most of he’s goal are scored from set pieces (penalty, free kick, corner kicks) u can’t compare a player that is a false 9 wearing 10 jersey n still does better at almost everything ronaldo does except heading the ball due to height.

Messi dribbles more, assists more, have more accurate passes and definitely scores more than Ronaldo despite having the best strikers in the world around him (Neymar, Suarez,) but Neymar left. We all know Messi is not a selfish player like ronaldo. In a league where Suarez will score 30 goals Neymar 25 Messi will have like 35-40 goals. Ask ur self why stale benzima is still in that club, why Madrid never bought or used better strikers than benzima. Even morata have to be sold. Asensio left on bench so he won’t cover Ronaldo’s shine. Messi is so good Neymar had to leave to psg still Messi covered he’s shine. All the goals Ronaldo scored in World Cup were from set pieces (corner, free kick, penalty) I think except one, I am not ruling out the fact that Ronaldo is an exceptional player. I for a person loves he’s positioning. About France pls remember Messi was fully marked against Croatia n France still against France he had 2 assists would u call that under performance tho dey lost the game. No player I say it again no player no matter how good they are will never amount to anything with wack players around them. All their efforts will be frustrated. Pls which team ever came out a said they want to buy Messi n stated the amount they want to pay? Pls just name the team. Barcelona have always been the one keeping him. Now see: he had tax issues Barcelona paid it off to keep him, Barcelona knew he might decide to leave they renewed he’s contract at the right time making him the highest paid player ever in football history, it’s all about the money that’s why he stayed. He earns a whooping 570,000€ a week which club will pay him that? Ronaldo have issues wit Madrid he clamoured for an increase in pay but Madrid didn’t listen so he’s agents have look for somewhere else for him. I don tire.

Finally both players are just outstanding.

The guy is obviously dumb and knows nothing about football other than sentiments

OttHin:
Quoting.....
It really happened. Miss Penalty remains Miss Penalty whether he remains at barcelona or not

Lol. Have you forgotten that your goat also earned that title in his match against Iran? Oh i remember you dont have TV