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Dude397:
I'm perfectly okay now sir

That means ur mental illness started 2012 and not 2017 and you misinformed us here... and religion wasn't ur problem.

I think you held unto religion when u realized you had mental issues and as usual it almost made matters worst...

Keep calm bro, take ur medications and i hope u to fine and live a normal life

LordReed:
I dunno why you are denying your own words. Look at them again if you have some how forgotten:



You literally said he would confess Jesus as lord for money.



Oga it is not your place to gatekeep who an atheist is, your long write up will not give you the authority. People can become atheist or non religious for any reason good or bad, you can point out bad reasons but you don't get to be the decider of who they are, you are not inside their head.

one thing i dont really understand is why they hold on to the fact that most atheists are people disappointed in God as a point. Isnt this something they should be bothered about? if someone prays and he does not get answers, isnt it a good reason to think God does not exist? But why at they excited about this rather than being concerned. Really if God answers prayers, would there really be atheists?

Just look at his statement, this is something coming from a supposedly rich intelligent dude:

PeaceJoyLove:
But see eh... you know my point. Some other people are just disappointed with God. They cannot bring out any good argument and flow well. See bro...just like you that prayed and prayed in those days, these same people did so. And they failed.

He is assuming people who pray and didnt get answers failed... instead of their God who claims he answers prayer... that mean people who pray should answer their own prayer.

PeaceJoyLove:
I will still not insult you because I know you need help. But if you really want to know me, go check my threads and read how I blast people without sense. Guy, if I start the other way round, na you.go take off. Just like you have accepted or not accepted that I am Dangote, lol.... the fact remains that I am impacting positively on NL. And the facts can be verified. It can also be verified that I am a lion that can blast you, but I am not going to do it because I need to make you understand that laying your frustration on me is not the way out.

My guy, see...a no dey insult you...but the level of your intelligence is at the level of the opening post here. Na me dey tell you na. If you are a real athiest and say no be hunger and frustration dey hammer your head, you no go enter this thread. It is shallow. Nothing dey here. There is no fact or anything significant here. I cant see the argument and references. Na "okra" discussion.... e dey draw ...very sluggish. But you dey ginger to debate am with many people here...lol. No be you even open am ooo as a don dash the real OP what he deserves. You kon carry your frustration too....and on top, your head no fit tell you say na "puff puff" discussion be this thread. See eh.... na your papa and mama a pity small...cos na waste of money for your education. You kon still dey vex and dey fight God. Bro, leave God for now....fine, you dont believe in Him....fine.. BUT GO HUSTLE!!!

A no get your time again. If you like go hug a transformer cos you dey vex. If you like make you carry a metallic stool and use am break your own head on top say you dey vex ..... GO HUSTLE. MAKE MONEY.

See, enter room and start your deliverance by singing with Olamide. Poverty na your problem, no be God.

Poverty Die! Die!! Die!!!

Goodbye!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwV1VX7cCZc

Your God is imaginary... and the reason why you folks pray, fast, tithe, vigil, is because you need help from an imaginary being. Your church members need your advise most... i am sure your house of God would have been empty if they were hustling enough instead of looking for help from an imaginary being.

PeaceJoyLove:


Yeah...athiests dey...real ones dey...and I respect them. In fact, I have two as very close friends, and till date, the respect is there because we always go deep into our discussions.

I am sure they are very poor and feeding from your rich asss. Oshe dangote . Your mumu no get part two

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not hear that "from the sweat of thy brow will you find food? That you shall Suffer before you eat, because the ground shall not co-operate with you? That you shall work from morning till evening only to get sorrows as your food" among other Curses?

From generation to generation have you all not confessed, saying, "Life is haaard?"

His Curses are heavy enough for Him to ignore you people most especially as you people think you are intelligent, whereas, you people are quite very stupid and you people die in your stupidity Curse crying "Life is Hard: Life is Hard Oooh" and all those stupid lamentations.

Exactly as God politely Said but I would not be polite in repeating it,"You all perish because you are very very stupid"

Guy pls rest, your imaginary God no get level, or worst still he is confused. Did he also curse ur mother or wife cause she went through labour pain while giving birth?

I think your God is the foolish thing here

Dtruthspeaker:
A lot of people call themselves Christians but are not and even men are deceived, God is not, and therefore, the deceivers live in the Curses that God has laid for all foolish men.

what curse? they have the effrontery to deceive people ur God supposedly created and love, even using the words of ur God to decieve people and succeeding... shouldnt ur God be wary of such people?

shouldn't ur God for once consider himself a failure? Ordinary humans are calling his warning and threats a bluff and all he could do is lay curses that has no single effect...

shame on u and the nonsense u believe in... spits

PeaceJoyLove:
Search through my threads and see how I contribute to the development of Nigeria. My humble self has been trying to teach Nigerians how to make money in this tech age.

Yeah...i have failed too...failure is the only true test of success....but I did not come to NL to disturb the peace of everyone with "Miyan Kuka" arguments.

Oga, if you want to prove there is no God, come up with real logical argument, and not this childish argument. Just read the useless opening post ....very shallow.

Bro, my faith has been tested too. I have doubted His existence too, but I know how I handled myself. I didnt go about making baseless and useless claims cos I failed that time. I looked at myself and realised where I failed, and I corrected myself. So, I learned another lesson that faith without work is truly dead. That work is hustle.


Guy! Leave NL. Go hustle. Go hustle.

when u talk like this i am not surprised at such nonsense assumption coming from someone who made up a God to believe in... if u can assume a creator exists my brother, u can assume that everyone living in Kenya is a cat and believe it like ur life depends on it.

U sit in ur house telling people u interact with online to go and hustle because they dont believe a being, even u have never seen, exists. are u saying that everyone who does not believe ur imaginary God exists is poor? How many billionaires believe ur imaginary God exists?

How rich are u to assume u are richer than every atheist on Nairaland... why are u so childish and ignorant yet u spew trash with such audacity... only Christianity can make a human confident in stupidity.

Yet u cant describe how this creator u so much believe in looks like, neither do u know where he lives nor can u even explain the sound of his voice... just that the white man told ur fathers that this Creator used to live in isreal and will be back on day, all of a sudden u are busy all the place assuming people who dont believe in nonsense are poor...

Nairaland has really done well in grooming stupid people.

elated177:
You must be really frustrated. Are you not looking evidence again? Now tell me, which category do you belong to? My God exists and he is the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. I am evidence that he exists.

When u keep on sayin people are frustrated for no reason, it is only a sign that u are frustrated.

I feel sorry for ur like... forcing urselve to believe something so imaginary, praying and visualizing things and making up stories just to support ur belief... have u given ur imaginary creator ur tithe for this month? he needs ur money to complete ur mansion that u will live in when u die...

elated177:
A better evidence than me does not exist. I am evidence of the Creator of heaven and earth, YHVH Almighty, my Father in heaven.

could it b that u are the so called creator?

listen to yourself...

frank317: So what accurate knowledge has your God provided about the universe that we can all rely on?

Dtruthspeaker: And I have clearly answered, that the knowledge of the universe is completely unnecessary and has no bearing with good and sweet living.

But God has given us all the "accurate knowledge" we require to have a good and sweet living.

how does this answer the question? Ur brother in Christ is the one probing Lordreed and asked him multiple questions about the universe as if the so called God he is worshipping has the answers...what accurate knowledge do u have about all these questions below by shotgun?

shortgun: Until you tell us why 80 percent of the world oceans remains unexplored in the 21st century, God exists!
Until you tell us the accurate number of planets in our solar system, God exists!
Until you explain the force that keeps a bicycle upright, God exists!
Until you tell us how big the universe is, God exists!
Until you explain why people yawn and why it is catching, God exists!

Dtruthspeaker: Is this not rather proof that your hatred for God has made you very unreasonable and tethering close to insanity?

blah blah blah... if your so called God is sad I hate him, he can go and himself

Dtruthspeaker:
As I told your brother, like the universe around your house, sun, flood, rain, moon etc they will do, what they will do and you can not stop them therefore, we don't need it.

God has told us the relevant knowledge we require.

The knowledge that would have made us either eat fat, in happiness and with roofs over our heads and peace or that which turns you to a begger to be killed by hunger, suffering and lack and pain.

do u have a mental problem or somthing? what nonsense are u talking pls.

shortgun:
If what you call knowledge and hold on to can be "updated" and it's foundations destroyed, it simply tells you that the "knowledge" was/is ignorance, limited and deceitful.
What is the guarantee that what you know today will not turn out to be ignorance tomorrow.
Think my friend, Think!
God exists!

So what accurate knowledge has your God provided about the universe that we can all rely on?

Osashalom:
I want to mention something about the spirituality debate. You don't believe in God? Fine, I'm not one to judge, cause I'm not the judge. Why is it so important for many of you to mock those of us that do? If we're wrong, what have we lost when we die? Nothing! How does our believing in Jesus bring you any harm? You think it makes me stupid? Gullible? Fine. How does that affect you? If you're wrong, your consequence is far worse. I would rather live my life believing in God and serving Him, and find out I was right, than not believe in Him and not serve Him, and find out I was wrong. Then it's too late. There's no shame in my game! I believe in Jesus Christ. He said deny me in front of your friends & I will deny you in front of my Father (Matthew 10:33-35). HE'S COMING BACK...Greatest man in history, had no servants, yet they called him Master. Had no degree, yet they called him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is Jesus. 
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many years ago, Christians used to make unbelievers feel foolish, people have to lie just to be accepted a Christians. Today the table has turned. Questions are being asked and doubts have been raised. Christians are now the ones feeling foolish. they are now saying, leave me in my foolishness, how does that concern u?

Even you know the believe in Jesus is the highest form of foolishness; a dead jew that you claim was God the came to isreal, not africa or china or europe, is that one a God? wanted to speak to five thousand people and didnt think of inventing micro phone... he didnt even invent radio to reach africa or other parts of the world... but these things were possible and he could have acheived more in that once in a life time mission...

well, u said i should leave u in ur foolishness, enjoy!

Kestolove:
My brother pls lets respect each other beliefs, the world will be a better place..#Shaloom

If u respect others, u will condemn the churches making noise all the time and disturbing everyone in their neighborhood

I think it is very ok to ask when need something, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

My problem is u have to pray and pray till u are tired of repeating yourself. Not only that, u will fast, go to vigil, give tithe, make effort to please him with it life style still u will be told that patience is a virtue while things turn from bad to worst.

Nigeria is an example... Haven't u asked God what u want?

Madam, nobody is listening to u, go and hustle out ur own success.

ayoncox:
Check this out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5KAI9MNzFU
Lots of that but I would not have to share them, will tell you to go look for others that are sick and let's start from there. What medicine cannot do, God will do more than that because the creature can't be operating more than the creator of the universe

do not mind them, they will never believe the multiple testimonies told in the church.

I told Lordreed and Workch that I drove from lagos to Maidugiri on an empty tank after my pastor prayed and blessed my car and they have the guts to doubt. My Cat was turned to a Dog after prayer from my pastor and that was how God saved me from wasting money to buy a new dog, Yet they doubt the all these obvious tested and trusted miracle work of God.. of course just a testimony in the church is a complete test.

Pls who will chop me and clean mouth... ladies, i am begging to be chopped

Munamoqel:
ipob is. Busy doing sit and home politics .next na sleep at home .don't go and seek partnerships be using rants

but why is IPOB giving u sleepless night? rest na.

LordReed:
I would say it's not really about people not wanting the atheist but of the atheist being less likely to want marriage.

why will an atheist be less likely to want to get married?

LordReed:
Because I have looked at actual statistics and it does seem like atheists are less likely to be married.

I am not sure I agree with this....

possess these qualities: good job, relatable, good looking and u will get married if u are interested. many ladies say God fearing man is a criteria but, like god that quality is a mirage and never seen

I am married...

elated177:
What does it mean to walk, frank317?

walk means moving from one place to anther with your feet

The fact that nature abhors it makes me abhor it.

How do you eat, frank3i7?

where did u get the FACT that nature abhors it.

I eat by putting food in my mouth,

Nature condemns homosexuality in all its form. Nature calls it an aberration.

Well, frank317, a lot has happened since then. So many things have gone wrong since then, frank317.

pls quote nature.. i am just realizing nature talks.

again what has happened to nature since men started sleeping with each other. 'a lot' is not anything.

Yap, nature has said clearly that it is an aberration. I have heard it clearly. The questions raised here point to the fact that nature has spoken out against homosexuality.

You don't need to know what nature has done, is doing and will do about it.

where, when and how did nature tell u... kindly quote nature and explain how nature spoke with only u

I don't need to know? i need to establish if u are lying na

elated177:
Put the emboldened this way: "Homosexuality is a sexual preference which goes against nature." Isn't it better?

how does it go against nature? did nature complain to u? what does nature lose if two men have sex?

It is nature's business, actually. When a man abandons the vagina for the anus of another man, then something is wrong.

I think its has suddenly become ur business instead of nature? or are u nature's mouthpiece? so the fact that u don't like it means nature does not like it...

Nature has everything to do with it. The fact that you couldn't give straight answers to the questions shows that nature has everything to do with sexual relationship. Nature has designed the female sex organ to accommodate that of the male.

nature has nothing to do with anything homosexual... what has happened to nature since men started sleeping with each other?

You see, the fact that homos have invade their anuses during the detestable sex activities underscores the assertion that homosexuality is an aberration. Why didn't the penis of one male open for the other male for penetration?

its an aberration to u, did naturetell u it is an aberration to it? if so what has nature done about it?

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

If homosexuality is normal or natural, why do lesbians require a penis-object for sex?

If homosexuality is normal or natural, why is it that between two males in a same-sex relationship, one must behave like a female?

If homosexuality is normal or natural, why do homosexuals have to invade their anuses? Why can't they insert one penis into another?

If nature actually ordained homosexuality, like some people claim, why all the manipulations?

Can the "homosexuality is normal" crew answer those questions for us?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Calling it natural or not is a bit tricky... who natural help?
is it natural to fall sick and die? did nature make cars and planes. Human beings have over the years, taken charge of their lives the best way they can and given the middle finger to nature which has proven to be neither here nor there...

Homosexuality is just a sexual preference, while I find it disgusting, I think its not nature's business when men decide to hit assess instead of pussi***

I really don't think nature has got anything to do with this... by the way what do u really consider natural in human behavior... is it natural for someone not to desire sex? or for someone not to like rice?

Iyaebe:
You expected me to shy away from the bitter truth? it is the reason I'm always the odd one out in most opinions on issues because i spit reality,you are enjoying marital bliss and other conjugal enjoyments but you don't want to spend,are you her creator? As long as you are sleeping with her please don't complain of any demands from her,nothing is free,not even the air we breath.

pls shut up if u have nothing to say

Datboredberry:
Y'all are insane! The purpose of the redpill is to make smashing easy?

Real alphas aren't lust-driven psychos...being a real man means being in complete control, especially of your libido!

Going about looking as the asses of women is low...and creepy...

from a woman's perspective... smashing the chicks is not something u go and pick... u learn and master it over time

triplechoice:
You say you're not generalizing but it is not true. And you ended up generalizing in the above. It is either you don't take time to read what you typed before clicking the submit button or you don't know what it means to generalize
.

I had to just stop here. I said we wouldn't be arguing if all religious folks were not fanatics and u call it a generalization? Common sense didn't tell you that this statement meant that the reason we are having this communication or for the op is because some religious folks are fanatics.... how can I be conversing with someone who calls anything generalization?

have a good day bro. You jumped into the thread with nothing substantial to say.

triplechoice:
Everyone is prone to being unreasonable not only religious people. Some religious persons are even more reasonable than you. Islam and Christianity are not the only religion in the world and not every religious person is fanatical about what they believe in. We have atheist and the non religious who are fanatical about their non belief and are comfortable with it even when their behavoiur offends others around them.
Most religious people don't get involve in the above. You're very close to generalising.
You're generalising here and it is not reasonable to do so.

I am not generalizing... i am interested in religious person who are fanatical and go over board. They are the problem of religion... people like righteousness(I am sure u know the moniker) who will go to every post to preach dooms day, people who survive accident and thank God for specifically saving them and allowing other people to die. if every religious person was not fanatical u and I will not be having this conversation.

Some of them are aware of what I explained

are u specifically saying that there are Christians who believe that after praying, they were not healed by God but they were healed as a result of the process u described? and u claim the person believes in God? or are u saying that there are Christians who understand the process u described and still believe its God that healed them? u think they are ok?

I never said psychological movement but physiological movement that can result in healing. If scientist has confirmed such movement within the human body during prayers but have not been able to explain exactly why they happen how do you then convince a religious person who has experience it that a god is not responsible?. You think because there's no evidence for a god then any claim of prayers working must be false.? That conclusion is wrong. Some plants are used in herbal treatments by herbal practitioners and they work perfectly well even when science has not been able to identify what constitute
the healing properties in those plants or why they work.No evidence or explanation why they work but they work.

Oga no scientist will explain such physiological movement during prayer without explaining why biko... go and read why people are advised to be positive in life. Any scientist that explains such a prayer-induced physiological process will clearly explain other psychological condition that will also result in the process and sure has nothing to do with any God.
if u accept there is no evidence of God, how then do u come to conclusion that something with no evidence healed u after some rambling called prayer?
Oga please scientists have identified the healing properties constituted in majority of plants used to heal... most of the drugs u used today are extracts from these plants... are u for real?

If the believer is wrong according to you then explain to him what is really happening so he can think "right"

isn't that part of what the op is all about

Your comment above shows that you just jumped midway into the conversation without finding out what has been said before. I have been saying that the op is not completely untrue but that it can't persuade a deeply religious person and those, who know better, that prayers is useless. The summation is that prayer is useless. But Is that really true from what I have been explaining here? and what is the meaning of useless?

We cant play ignorance here. i think u and I understand what the op meant when he said prayer is useless... the whole scenario described in the op clear explains why he thinks prayer is useless. Was there a God who was supposed help people under the fallen building after being prayed to? if some people were meant to die there what was the point of their prayer? does that not make prayer useless. Could those who think their were save because of their prayer be wrong? The point of the op was to show that they were wrong and their prayer was useless. And of course it can actually convince SOME deeply rooted fanatics... that's the power of conversation.

If Prayers can provide even if it is only psychological relief then it means it is not completely useless as you and your friends wrongly think .

it means it wasn't any God that did it.. which is the whole essence of saying prayer is useless.

Alot of parents tell their children that without education they cant succeed in life. And what is your understanding of being rich.

any parents who says that is wrong biko. And being rich here means living and afluent and comfortable life.

It is what they have accepted .It is their choice.

why such a flimsy statement? who said it wasn't their choice... what has this statement got to do with anything? It is wrong cause such thinking has created unnecessary friction. isn't robbery some people's choice of living?

My argument is not centered on the above but only used it to highlight the fact that he was generalising using just one instance of where prayers appeared to fail ,that is ,if we all can accept it can work. If everyone under that rubble was rescued alive would he accept that it was prayers that led to it?

of course, he cannot use all instances, this is not his first post on nairaland and the other posts still touched on other points. A strong argument for prayer would have been if only the people rescued where the people that prayed. Things working at random cannot be termed answered prayer, which is supposedly the reaction of a supposedly intelligent and loving God. Mbanu

How many have you succeeded in convincing with rational arguments? It is obvious you don't know enough of what forms the basis of most religious beliefs if not you wouldn't be saying this.

you are hasty in ur conclusion bro. I have been here a long time and majority of active atheists now on nairaland were once arguing back and forth with us just like u.

Sorry the problem is yours and not mine . I have not condemned anything but only made an observation from what I know about the subject matter. My observation should be addressed and not taken as condemnation. Why do you want to imagine my response as that. Where did I suggest he should not bother. Please keep your imagination in check

you want the op to come u with an argument that will convince every deeply rooted religious fanatic? like I said I think the op has a good point... i really don't know what u expect from him... he cant satisfy u, neither can he satisfy everyone.

So when you disagree with somebody's arguments it is because you don't want them to say anything at all. Just imagine the way you reason

No, I think u want him to come up with a perfect argument.

. Nothing has been said to prove that prayers is completely useless especially for a deeply religious person to accept. That is my argument and I have given reasons why I say so.Address those .

I think the statement 'completely useless is an absolute one, hence my problem with ur argument.
Actually, a lot has been said to prove prayer is useless and u agree he has a point but not enough. The major thing to me is that No God answers any prayer... things follow due process and looking at it from this angle... prayer is useless.

triplechoice:
Sometimes what is convincing to you may not be convincing to the person you're trying to convince.. Judging the person you're trying to convince as unreasonable doesn't solve the problem of your inability to be more convincing about what you know. It is possible that the problem is your fault and you don't even know it.

I agree, but you and I know that most religious folks are comfortable with being unreasonable... what do u think about someone strapping a bomb and kill people, or someone giving his whole earning to a pastor or eating grass or... when discussing with someone who believes in an unseen being u should know u are a long thing.

. Your above statement is evidence that you have very limited information about the practice of prayer. There are have been studies conducted by scientist to demonstrate that prayers can result in certain physiological movements in the human body which can result in healings. Anyone who has had that sort of healing or has known any who has it, would not completely accept that prayers is useless. This is the foundation of why I said the op is not convincing enough. Maybe you have another definition for the word, "useless" I have never argued on this thread that prayers is a sure bet .

tell a Christian or Mulsim what scientists discovered as u described above and they will tell u u are the devil. Prayer here to a religious person is God deliberately answering their request and not some psychological movement that results in relief. Any believer who had had that sort of feeling and stick to 'God healed me' is wrong hence he needs convincing and the OP is just part of the process. I cant recall the op saying he is most convincing... but I think he has a point, do u?

If prayers can provide psychological relief then what is your point then? Or have you used the word psychological without really knowing the meaning?

then lets accept prayer gives psychological relief and stop saying God did it.

With your reasoning there, one can also conclude that since people can still become wealthy without going to school then schooling is useless

you could have been right if the assumption is 'without school no one can be rich'. Go to church and u will hear Christians let u know how vulnerable u are without prayer.. some will even pity u. yet they pray and fall into danger. Another problem with comparing school with prayer is that while school is a process where one can see where one falls short and lose it, while prayer is just a a magical, automatic response to our desires... ur example will only lead to a long unreasonable argument because the comparison is wrong.

. I have not said much about what prayers can do or not do or even made any God claim . My argument is that you can't convince a religious person or any other person that what they do is completely useless especially when they think that the benefit they're getting is enough for them. If they're OK with it at this time why should it be your problem .

you can convince a religious person actually, and that's the power of human interaction. The problem with folks like you is that you just condemn the attempt to convince another. what the Op did was involve in the process of conviction, some will accept some will not.
by the way whats ur point... that the op shouldn't have bothered?

Ensure you understand an argument vary well before responding

I understand your point.... The op should come up with an argument that must convince religious folks or don't try at all.

You don't get me at all. I never made any claim about prayers. I said the op is not convincing. Please respond to the reasons I have given and not try to bring in things that doesn't concern me

u can quickly clarify me so that we don't waste time repeating ourselves

triplechoice:
My arguments here is clear to those who can see it

I have not made any claim about prayers neither have said that the argument is completely false

But only being pointing out that the arguments for prayers being useless is not cogent enough to convince a religious person to abandon the practice. And for god sake, I have given my reasons.

Actually, it is enough to convince any reasonable person, except u want to argue for the sake of twisting what's obvious.

Prayer has never been proven to work, it's just a psychological way of making people feel good, that's why it is still relevant. if people are archiving things (u say only prayer can achieve) without prayer what's wrong in concluding that prayer is useless? recall prayer is the point here basically because of the way something so irrelevant has been promoted by religious folks. "Prayer works" only becomes a claim when you cannot even prove its effectiveness to ur achievement. Given the way prayer is being promoted, one actually expects much... same as God.

Now the school example u gave is wrong... school has never been preached to be the only way to success. Education has its effect on people and when u bring an educated person and an uneducated person out, the difference will always be clear. if someone attains education and still behaves like an uneducated person, I can confidently say education was useless to him.

if smoking has been proven to cause cancer in some people, then the statement, smokers are liable to die young is true.

It's not about claiming that prayer works neither is it about claiming that overspeeding could lead to death or smoking could cause cancer... Has any dead person been confirmed to have died due to over speeding or smoking? Fine, can you prove your prayer was what led to their rescue? did god confirm that people were rescued from that building because they prayed to him?

Righteousness2:
Watch how Carnal minds will attack her.
What she says may Sound funny! But she is on Point. What she says about sex , and likes of Gaga , Beyoncé and the other one is a Bold Bitter truth.
Those who know, they know!

both u and that lady actually need serious sex in ur life

hupernikao:
Pèlé, I understand your trouble. Ever learning but can't come to knowledge. It's a pity position to be. You will survive it. Just take some time. Once again. Pèlé.

how exactly does this meaningless rant make you feel? the way some Christians think sha... u need to even sound like u have knowledge before u start talking of knowledge.

oga park well