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butterflylion:
Well it's better than seeing the spaghetti I eat now flying and juggling meatballs.

What? Are u sure u are okay?

butterflylion:
Stop lying to yourself. It's your worst nightmare come to life

Ok... If that's what will make u happy. Infact I am crying on my bed right now and wishing u like me instead of him...I hope this revelation will give u sweet dreams this night.

chemystery:
hahahahaha....i know you religionists are good at having enemies. We atheists are not same. No matter what, we are still your friends. Just that I can't stay and watch you and the rest of humanity wallow continuously in religious delusion.

The question is, what is he really angry about? Insulting and even threatening to fight when he meets with an atheist face to face. Well,that's what happens when one worships an imaginary being in his head.

butterflylion:
Nah that is what happens when reasonable people converse maturely and equally.

Awww it must hurt you so bad to see an atheist being extremely friendly to a theist and vice versa especially since all you have is hatred for theists. He already displayed so much rare maturity from an atheist which I must commend and that makes your rage boil even more.

Don't be envious of him. You could have been the one getting all the praise but I am sure that whenever you have any dream about being nice to a theist you would wake up calling it a nightmare so let he who deserves the commendation enjoy it alright?

Enjoy ur new athesit friend kid... I can see u are excited... I am happy for u too.

butterflylion:


More deliberate hate words all in the mix. E be like say you be DJ in your other lives. Your remixes are walk though but award worthy non the less Afterall they any award na award even if na worst dj category.

So you are disappointed that I did not fall for your mud wrestling attempt.

See eh guy I saw you already wrestling with your shadow in the mud pool and as I no wan stain this my China white shirt na im I just sempe and maintain for observable corner

Hypo must sell wella today for your hand

Lol...u saw me where? I can see u are high on holy spirit weed again. Well am not surprised,afterall u see Yahweh and Jesus all the time.

butterflylion:
Well you couldn't help it. I couldn't help it either. He may be atheist but he has a warm disposition which is not found in the much older atheists on Nairaland just as lekkyD007 observed.

He is younger but more mature. They are older but more juvenile.

He still thinks ur Jesus is an asshole.

You seem so happy to be friends with an atheist... Lol...this is what happens when someone you look up o approves of u, I see u calling unto him like his is ur new God.

butterflylion:
Of course

Thanks for projecting your self values on to me. No point waiting for me to commit suicide when you can come finish me off yourself

So much deliberate expressions of hate all in one sentence.

Make your head no explode due to that vein for the side of your head o.

Am a bit disappointed with this post. I expected you to fume with anger, all red eyes, squeeze your device and throw and more insults as usual... What happened? Are u no longer infected with the Jewish bacteria called Jesus?

Bolaji21:
It seems you're trying to not get the point. The ability to do the opposite of what the creator wants is part of free will.
If you're provided with just rice, you'll keep eating rice. You're not exercising your will here, cos you have no options to choose from.
But if we provide beans and you still keep eating rice, then we can say you like rice because you have willingly chosen rice. The beans and rice was provided. You should get the point now.

It keeps getting worst... So he gave us option b, which is the ability to sin and called it free will. Let me ask u... Must free will go with sin? Couldn't we have had free will without the ability to sin?
Free will in this instance is a curse. It does not favour more than 3/4 of his Creations... What's the point?

Yes he knew (foreknowledge)

You said it, but his actions does not sound like one who has foreknowledge. He should have known giving humans free will will bring a lot of suffering... Perhaps that was his original plan?

The point is to show that his sovereignty is not threatened by the the ability of his creatures to rebel against him. So, every creature obeys him not because it's compelled to do so or cannot do otherwise, but because he loves the creator and WANTS to serve Him

To show who? Who exactly is he trying to please?
I'd rather he did it all to massage his own ego. He needs obedience from his creations and gave them free will that would lead to thousand of deaths and suffering and hell as their final destination.

You should be grateful to him that he gave you the ability to think the way you think and not think like an animal (no insult intended please).
He's not living by trial and error. He's omniscient.

Here is nothing to be grateful for. Are animals complaining that they hate being animas? If he had created me without free will,what would I have lost? Wouldn't I have happily lived my no free wil life?
Again, couldn't there have been freewill with out the ability to sin?
It's trial and error in my opinion... If not why destroy humans with water and later send Ur son to come die...why try to get it right when he has foreknowledge... Why not get it right from the beginning.

No. When Satan and his cohorts rebelled aeons ago, no angel has rebelled since then. Was their freewill taken away after then? No.

Isn't this what makes the story fishy. Only in the Bible, that's where it all happened.
And no, the fact that angels have not sinned against does not mean that they would never sin.. afterall u admitted that angels have sinned before.... Eternity is too long to think sin would never reoccur, i mean, given what happened in the past, don't u think?

If that's how you chose to understand it, Yes.

He gave us the ability to sin... And had foreknowledge that we will sin... Yet... Oga, watin u de talk self.

He expected us to make the right choice. Even when that freedom of choice has been abused, it's still there till today. That's why some some of us can choose to serve God and people like you can choose not to serve God.

I serve God not because of the fear of hell. If there was no hell, I'll still serve Him. And it's a choice I've made and don't intend to change in the future or eternity to come, come what may.

How can he expect us to make the right choice when he gave us that ability to sin and had the foreknowledge that we will sin... If u have foreknowledge that if u leave ur 3years old the freedom to play on ur dining table he will fall and break his leg. You know this for sure. Will u leave him to freely play on the table while u expect him not to fall?
How can u expect him not to fall when u already know he will fall?

butterflylion:
And of all people to put me in my place it was a certified idiot who would do that? You are the one taking yourself too seriously.

Your fellow atheist LekkyD007 is ashamed on your behalf. He still has hope and I suppose that's why I could easily buddy up to him.

Stop appealing to lekkyD007's emotion.

I don't take him serious when he has chosen to pretend not to see ur arrogant ranting.

Keep on insulting like a mad man. You seem to put your whole life problem in every post u make in an ordinary public forum.

Every post from u reeks of pain and anger... Well I am glad I am getting on ur nerves... That's actually my mission. My only regret when u eventually commit suicide will be that I will miss playing around with u like my dog.

LekkyD007:
Mehn! Y'all talk too much and Dalaman you're one of the atheists here I followed in my other moniker, with this you've been at since yesterday it clearly shows You're not learned at all. I've only been an atheist for less than 4 years and I've learned to control myself and be calm even at the highest level of instigation, I'm still young at this and I know when to stop talking but you've been one for years and you still engage in the same kind of arguments EVERYDAY. Every bleeping day. You don't see Johnydon22 doing this, he stopped a while back. I really expected so much from sir. It is what it is

I think you are taking this way too serious.

Duhhhhh! are you the only one who didnt see that butterflyinsect needed to be put in his place?

Bolaji21:
Free will is not packaged with evil/sin. But the creature has the ability to do the opposite of what the creator wants. If the creature can't, then that's not free will.

Is this thing ( I mean the ability to do the opposite of what the creator wants) not part of their creator's creation? If not, where did it came from? Is it packaged with free will or not?

God created EVERYTHING. Creatures earned the ability to sin when they have free will. I don't know your definition of free will if there's no possibility of rebellion. Free will is the ability to do as you please, whether for or against your creator. If that's not the definition, then it's no longer free will but CONTROLLED WILL.

So that means freewill comes with the ability to do the opposite of what the creator want. So that means the creator created man and gave him freewill, which is packaged with the ability to do the opposite of what the creator wants, which implies sinning?... Did the creator know the consequence of this ability or not? If he knew... What's the point, knowing that people like me will eventually doubt his existence.

You think he must have done something wrong because of your disposition towards him.

Yes. My disposition towards him is as a result of my inability to make sense of him being the all seeing yet acting like he does not see and living by trial and error like one who is not all seeing.
Afterall, he gave me the brain reason this way.

As I've stated earlier, free will comes with the ability to act for or against the creator. If that is not a possibility, then it's not free will but CONTROLLED/REGULATED WILL.

When u get to heaven, will u have free will? Will u have the ability to do the opposite of what the creator wants? Does it mean this circle will continue?
Further, so this opposite is evil/sin...that means while giving us free will, he instills in us the ability to sin? Does this means that the creator giving us free will , imply giving us the chance to do the opposite of what he wants? Does this opposite means sin? Are saying he therefore gave us free will, which is the ability to sin? What then was he expecting when he gave us the ability to sin?

Bolaji21:
God created everything (all spirit beings in this case). He created them with free will so they can serve him by their own free will, not because they were compelled to do so or they have no alternatives. God's idea of Kingdom is a kingdom of King and Kings, not king and subjects. He wants to be a king of Kings, not king of subjects.

If God wants a kingdom there is kings and kings.. he should just create one already with or without free will.
Let me ask... Must free will be packaged with sin/evil?
If you get heaven at last will u have free will? Will there also be possibility of one sinning? If no, why didn't God start with that instead of all these drama that is not going well with humans, his beloveth. Now he got me doubting him, is that good?

They (spirit beings) existed and served God for aeons. Then one of them felt he has earned the right to rule the kingdom, instead of the creator ruling. He thought of an insurrection and knew he needed followers to do that. He managed to convince 1/3 of the angelic population.

They began the insurrection as planned. God didn't stampede them. Another created being (Michael) led the remaining 2/3 to defeat this 1/3 rebels.
As we all know, a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. The rebels were stripped off everything that glorifies them and were exiled.

Did God create angels and have them free will that came with package ability to sin?
If God has no evil in him how did he create begins with ability to sin?
If I as a scientist does not have the intelligence to create a flying car, can any car I create ever just develop the ability to fly?
How in the world did an angel get the guts to challenge his maker? What did the maker do wrong?

In my own opinion, this is justice and love.
You see failure, but I don't think that's correct. We might have been able to argue it as failure if 2/3 of the angels decided to rebel - then we can say maybe God must have been a bad King.

I think he is a bad king after much analysis. I see no justice and love... He must have done something wrong... But then, this is just man made story, that's why there are so many loopholes.

If God had created these brings WITHOUT FREE WILL and they still rebelled, then God must have been a poor creator. Because, if a car manufacturer manufactures a non-automatic car and the car begins to control itself at some point, then the blame goes to the manufacturer.

But these beings were created with FREE WILL. Are we clear on that sir?

Does free will come with evil or sin? If so why? Can't people be free without being evil?

STUPUDTHEISTS:
Actually the intense fervor he displays while scrawling his inanities beats me. I mean how can one be so passionate and serious about being stupid.

After religionists, fear a niqqa that talks too much.

Lol...like I said, it is called felixomoron syndrome. He has been infected with mumuism by the Jewish bacteria called Jesus.

According to him, once u have a good doctor who can prescribe good drugs for ur illness, it's pointless praying to Jesus because Jesus will not listen to u.
Jesus will be like: "ogbemi, go meet Ur doctor and leave me alone abeg" or "my friend, go rub garlic on those infected legs and stop praying to me"

alBHAGDADI:
So it is good for little children to be exposed to porn on facebook all in the name of atheism?

U are being uneccessarily defensive.

Facebook does not allow porn. It's not a porn site and blocks all forms of nudity. The worst u can see is women or men with highly provocative underwear.

Facebook is a social site with different people who have different interests.whatwver u are there is expected and there is absolutely no need to write articles about it. It is not a Christian site and it was not made specifically for you.

Bolaji21:
Thanks for your civil response. Shall we continue each point one after the other tomorrow?

Sure

butterflylion:
says someone who a fellow atheist reprimanded for quickly alluding he was a Christian based on a simple question he asked seeking help.

What a basket case.

If I was a butterflyinsect why do I have all you atheists all jumping around me due to my confrontations do you feel all theists must submit to your way or expectations? Hell na niggah!

I whip you all in line when I need to and other times when I don't it's simply because I just could not compute your idiocy.

So now you believe in heaven? So why should you feel bad for me since you do not believe in heaven? Knot loose for your medula?

When you call describing someone an insult then I wonder how you would recognise an insult when you ever saw one.

You lot are dolts, impishly cowardly, fvvckktards, and extremely juvenile and those are true descriptions and I am sure you would call them insults as well.

You for one has been called an Idi0t by everyone you have ever engaged on Nairaland. You speak like one and type like one. Heck I am even sure you have idi0t on as a suit.

We all saw the same thing and the majority has the vote. You are a certified slowpoke. The votes have been counted!

Lol... Your God does not exist... U can hug a transformer. It's not about making noise and insulting... It's about the fact which is.. God is in your head. The more u get angry about this, the more the inexistence of your God becomes real.

butterflylion:
wawuu! Do you see why I said you speak from both sides of your mouth? You call God doG but whenever you are asked if God exists you always and I mean always answer I DON'T KNOW!

since you do not know why are you in limbo by constantly trying to rain insults on someone or something you do not know if he exists?

When you are cornered you claim agnostic but when free you claim full blown atheist. Such a spastic individual loaded with so much confusion but wants to convince someone to let go of God when even he has no idea if God exists or not. Such a blind fellow attempting to lead one who is already seeing when he cannot even lead himself!

Assuming I am upset is part of your confusion. I am simply giving you tit for tat so you would realise you do not have the monopoly of such talk. When people come at you in the same way you came at them you begin making such comments as above.

Jesus can chill, I got this covered men! He does not need to sweat it at all. You talk about what I would do if you were in my vicinity? Surely you know cowardice wouldn't even let you say such openly in my presence if it's only on a faceless forum you can form superman and not in real life. If I ask you to match your atheism with your face you would scurry off and hide as the coward you are and claim that would be dangerous since people do not accept atheists yet Traditionalists and Christians openly declare their stand even in hostile regions.

It's easy to take cheap shots on a faceless forum but in real life you all become tongue tied which is why you all sit on Nairaland day in day out because this is the ONLY place you can find expression. The outside world has got you sissified and acting all gay and shiiit.

Heck even here on Nairaland you cannot hold your own. Aren't you one of those who got messed up in the head because of my strong approach and began trying to label me to be some 4evergod fellow out of the fear he also created in you? You must be scared shitless of confrontation and even biiitches turn you into a sissy.

I ain't even married but I have got more balls than you and 90% of you cowardly atheists on Nairaland so much so that one of your cowardly cronies had to open a special thread just for me.

By the time you are done reading this post and you get up just make sure you clean the seat you sat on because as expected fear just made you shiiit on it again.

Dude I will be all up in your faces and you better get used to it. Trying to run me off by claiming whatever Kolewerk!

I got this on lock down and I got you all messed up.

Lol, u want to beat him if he insults ur God in ur face? Oga, stop making noise abeg. Muslims have killed ya all over the place, bombing u guys right there in your prayer houses.... What have u done? Pray to ur nonexistent God to help u while u die like chickens in the hands of merciless Allah soldiers.

Oga, abeg go rest... Stop coming to a faceless forum to talk like a woman... If u see any of us here face to face u will do nothing, I will insult ur Jesus in ur face and nothing will happen. Which day Christians grow balls na? If say u be Muslims if for understand.

dalaman:
Are you Jesus? Why get angry and throw tirades and insults at someone who insults Jesus? Did he insult you? Shebi you claim that Jesus is alive, let Jesus respond to the insults himself. Abi him no fit respond? Imagine me getting angry and throwing tirades at a person for insulting something I claim is alive and is also omnipotent? What a load of madness. Why should you fight for this almighty God when he is insulted? Fight your battles when you are affronted and allow Jesus fight his own and stop acting like an Islamic terrorist wanna be.

HopefulLandlord e be like say all the things wey you type up there really pain this our resident mumu.

He he... He is vexing for his Almighty all-powerful Jesus. Jesus is all powerful but needs the arrogant butterflyinsect to vex for him. He is actually expecting a reward in heaven for all the insults he gives u for insulting Jesus.... You know... Like how bokoharam will kill u for insulting Allah and then get 72 virgins

STUPUDTHEISTS:
This butterfly imbeci.le reminds me of felixmoron. The punkass doesn't know much but goes about Insulting people, plus making endless noise and bickers like a woman. What's with those irrelevancy and motor park language. I've been watching his posts for a while, there seem to be this strong prejudice he got for atheists. Take away the insults from all his post, and you'd be left with little or no contribution. The way he's going about it, I see him dethroning Felicia and becoming the new religion section imbecil.e.

What kinda guy gets too emotional and talk pettily like women. Dude is always jumping on every thread to display his factory fitted idiocy. Making submissions like market women. I think y'all should stop quoting him, cause apparently he's relishing the attention. I can't stand stupid, arrogant, blissfully ignorant, gullible and credulous people like him.

Felixmoron must be proud of his protégé.

He is suffering from felixomoron syndrome. That is what happens when the Jewish bacteria called Jesus infects u with mumuism

Bolaji21:
Since you have decided to become her defendant and refuse to observe instead, let's continue then. Now, tell me the part of Jesus' death that isn't clear to you and I'll make it clear. I wanted her to ask a direct question so I can give a direct answer.

Everything... Just everything... And well, it's all clear but does not make sense.

-God created angels, they had issues with him and this led to Lucifer, sin and demons.
-God created man, and had issues with man and this led to death.
-Sin got too much and he decided to destroy man, selecting 8 (supposedly good ones) yet after annihilation of the remaining, sin continue from the so called selected ones.
-he sent Jesus which is himself to die for man kind... Sin still abounds...how meaningless can it get?
All I see is the almighty failing in every project he does.

hopefulLandlord:
of course its hatred lol

even they know those Jesus promises only reside in a book and has no use in real life

therefore they have to chose one of the below options

1) the Bible is wrong, Jesus never said these things

2) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus was wrong

3) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus lied

4) Praying for healing of LekkyD007 leg won't work because they don't have faith

5) the Bible is just a collection of myths & fables & Yahweh, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Satan doesn't exist

Or praying for LekkyD007's leg will not work because he has already asked him to rub garlic on it.

dalaman:
So telling you to follow biblical injunctions is hatred for christians?

frank317 and hopefulLandlord make wuna see this one abeg.

He thinks it's all about being all over the place, insulting people without making meaningful contribution.

He even accused me of calling the other fellow a Christian when I clearly didn't.

I am yet to understand what he is all about, he thinks calling unto Jesus is unnecessary when you have good doctor around u who can prescribe the right drug. I wish he can tell me when it's necessary to call on saviour Jesus.

butterflylion:
Why don't you decide that for me. Or decide that for LekkyD007

Ok

LekkyD007:
OK. This is why I hate getting in this section. It's the same thing everyday, atheists and theists at each other's necks. There's absolutely no reason y'all need to go insulting one another for. #facepalm

Insulting each other? Your friend has been all over the place calling me and anyone who questions his post names. Did u see me insult him? You should caution him instead.

butterflylion:
Anybody invite you enter my matter before your hatred for Christians carry you rush enter?

Oya next time face front.

Lol...didn't know I was that annoying.

Well, so u don't think prayer is faster and easier than taking drugs and rubbing garlic?

When exactly does Jesus come in?

butterflylion:
See hate king himself claiming I dey vex.

Ogbeni go and drink sniper if your vex no fit stay inside your body Abeg.

Me I just dey gist and Jaiye orimi jor. Any vex wey you want vex make you vex am inside your room. If you carry am near me na to diagnose and treat you wella anyhow anyhow. So maintain!

What? I hope u are alright sha.

U have been insulting me all over the place. Is it because I put mouth for Una talk? I don't think that means u should be calling me dumbfvck and all that.

Me hate king? Have I ever insulted you in this forum?
I still don't get it.

LekkyD007:
See why I think most Nigerian atheist are extremists? This is the reason I don't really Like identifying as one, they always find a reason to make everything about religion/god. Can't two gentlemen have a normal conversation and just not bring the god factor in?

Of course they can.

But since u are doing it in a public forum, I chipped in when I saw something about what Ur Christian friend advised. I didn't even quote u and u suddenly came at me, saying I called u a Christian... Isn't that the none of contention here?

I are u yet to show me where I accused u of being a Christian

butterflylion:
Make I advice am to go to Christ for healing when I sabi the cure myself ba?

Do you even see your stupidity? I did not even see reason to ask if he was a Christian but simply offered solution in my own small way but your own na to dey sniff and dig and accuse am for being a Christian when he never claimed to be one anywhere.

Atheist frank317 offer answers and not ridiculousness.

#Your mumu don do!

Where did I accuse him of being a Christian? U talk too much for a guy. Hmmm
And what's with all the insults... I don't understand why u sound so mad

LekkyD007:
You fall my hand big time

Na u even fall my hand pass. Stop acting like a Christian if u are not one.

I quoted a Christian who, instead of advising u to come to Christ for healing, he is telling u to use garlic and, u, like a Christian would, started getting ideas.

If Jesus can heal as he promised, wouldn't it be easy for u to pray to him this night and get healed by morning instead of wasting ur time rubbing garlic all over ur body?

LekkyD007:
Yet another radical atheist, whoever said I needed any god in this? Sir you need to get your fact right. I don't see where I've made mention of any god here what so ever so I don't understand why you assume am a Christian.

And how did I assume u are a Christian? Didn't I quote the Christian who was giving u advise?

Besides what's wrong if I assume u are a Christian? U are busy hobnobbing with them, u asked a silly questions just like every Christian would, how would I be doing a bad thing if I decide to assume u are a Christian?

butterflylion:
^^^^
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Who send this one? Maybe I also need Jesus to help me sew on a missing button on my shirt when I already have a needle and thread at hand ba?

Lol...isn't Jesus that useless?
What exactly if he good for?

butterflylion:
Carry garlic paste rub am and also chew 2 cloves of garlic. Natural herbal treatments often work better on such things.

Mash the garlic into a paste and if you have honey, mix it together with it and rub on your leg while you chew the raw garlic.

Now now the itch will stop and the honey will help blend your skin colour.

This is guaranteed therapy.

Remember Jesus is the altimate healer.


I wouldn't want a situation where the garlic or a doctor heals him and Jesus comes to take the glory.

I think he should pray with faith and God will heal him