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HealthRe: Pfizer: COVID-19 Vaccine Is 90% Effective - Early Look Shows by franklytrue(m): 7:00pm On Nov 10, 2020
Seun:
People take vaccines every day with no issues. What makes this vaccine different from the others?

Why do you need to stock up food if Jesus is coming soon?
People take other vaccines with no issues, true but this Corona virus vaccine is no ordinary vaccine. It is an end time instrument and it is demonic. It is a tool of the beast.

Jesus will come very soon but in the interim we are advised to stock up for our own good in view of the difficult times ahead before He finally comes. It will be so serious that people will look for just about anything to eat.

HealthRe: Pfizer: COVID-19 Vaccine Is 90% Effective - Early Look Shows by franklytrue(m): 12:52pm On Nov 10, 2020
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HealthRe: Pfizer: COVID-19 Vaccine Is 90% Effective - Early Look Shows by franklytrue(m): 9:30pm On Nov 09, 2020
Please do not take any vaccine whatsoever. It is a forerunner to the RFID microchip (Mark of the Beast). [see ID2020]
America is on the verge of destruction as prophesied. She is Babylon the great of Revelation 17 & 18.
Biden who will usher in the beast, Obama, and his one world government has been elected. There is no more normal life for America from now on and this will spread to countries all over the world soon. Another Lockdown is on the way.
There will severe food shortages soon. Stock up durable foods now that you can. These are indeed the last days. Jesus will come very very soon.
Christianity EtcRe: The Only Antidote For Sin by franklytrue(m): 10:28pm On Oct 19, 2020
jonatoye:
Thanks for the contribution
You're welcome
Christianity EtcRe: The Only Antidote For Sin by franklytrue(m):
Titanic6:
The only antidote for sin is the TITANIC blood of Jesus.
adaugo59216:
The only antidote for sin is the TITANIC blood of Jesus.
cc: jonatoye

It is proper to flee from sin and all appearance of evil but can you flee from sin when it comes at you even in private when no one is around or watching? Will you flee from yourself when arrows/demons of lust, evil thoughts, malice, bitterness, fault-finding and etecetera are fired/sent against you?
There is a time to FLEE from sin and there is a time to RESIST unto blood the striving against sin. RESIST the devil and he will flee. (2 Tim. 2:22, 1 Thess. 5:23, Heb. 12:4, James 4:7)

You shouldn't just say the "only" antidote to sin or to keep from sin is this/that.
The "Titanic" blood of Jesus is an "antidote" to sin, that is after you have been washed in the blood of the Lamb spiritually but if you become careless/lukewarm, sin will overcome/defile you again before you know it.

Sin is not only a wrong action or an inaction (missing the mark, omission or commission) but also uncleanness in the sight of God (defilement, pollution).

The "antidotes" to sin after being born again are:
1) The blood of Jesus (1 John 1:7)
2) The grace of God (Rom. 6:14)
3) The Holy Spirit/Christ/the Word dwelling in us and we in him (1 John 3:6-9, 1 Cor. 6:16)
4) Watchfulness and prayerfulness (Matt. 26:41)
4) Holiness, righteousness and obedience to the will of God through right knowledge (1 Cor. 6:17, Hosea 4:6-10)
5) Love [walking in the Spirit for the fruit of the Spirit is love] (Prov. 10:12, Gal. 5:14,16,18, 25, Col. 3:14, 1 Pet. 4:8 )

I would not conclude that this list of "antidotes" is exhaustive. God knows.

Sin is not only something from the outside to flee from, there is the Adamic nature within the flesh (until we are translated at the Rapture) and temptations from the evil ones even in our closets. We all need to draw close to God whose name is Holy and walk with Him, and by that we draw away from sin, external and internal, visible and invisible. Amen.

Christianity EtcRe: 5 Life Lessons To Learn From The Temptation Of Jesus Christ by franklytrue(m): 12:55pm On Oct 06, 2020
BoboNogoDie:


Lol!
All these nonsense epistles just to prove a point you know absolutely NOTHING about.
You don't have any prove aside " the Bible says".
A book filled so many errors, inconsistencies and contradictions.
Muhammad said blablabla
Buddha said blablabla etc
Didn't your Jesus also said:



PLEASE OPEN YOUR BRAIN!
CONCENTRATE!

Humans can trace their existence (homo sapien) down to 300,000 years ago...
Yet, one story-book written be ignorant old folk out of delirious obsession will tell you that ADAM AND EVE were created about six thousand years ago.


The book also want you to believe that someone died for the sins you never committed

THE ORIGIN:
CREATED By early theologians...

Jesus, a Jew man... Who lived about 2000 years ago...
He was a good teacher and a theologian...
He lives in a time when the Roman empire was oppressing his people...
He wanted to free and liberate his people...

He was referred to as a rebel by the Roman authority and some of his people ( The Jew priests)...

Jesus was accused of the crimes of blasphemy and sedition by the Roman authority.
Judas played the role of a snitch AFTER HE WAS BRIBED, for Jesus to be apprehended.
Jesus was killed for the crimes he was convicted of. Later on, some confused and obsessed fellows made up the story of how his death paid for their sins grin

Because they can't just accept that an intelligent and innocent teacher could just die like that. They felt that there must be a strong reason for it, and since giving pure sacrifices to their gods then was the best gesture of worships, they attributed Jesus' death to the greatest sacrifice they can ever offer to their god....AND A RELIGION WAS BORN! (Chris tia nity)

Only he who starts of his own accord can advance spiritually. The fool who appropriates and makes use of the ready-made opinions of others, is like one who dismembers his own sturdy legs and walks on crutches.
'The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.' - Psalms 14:1
Don't let this remain true of you. Insults will not change the truth to a lie.

So you know some of the words of Jesus? That is good. But do you also know that he came to show us an example and to fulfil all righteousness? (Matthew 3:15)
'For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously' - 1 Peter 2:21-23

Do you also know that he said he and the Father are one? Do you know that he is the Word of God made flesh? In the flesh, God humbled himself and took our natural human limitations (Phil. 2:6-11, Heb. 10:5) of not being everywhere or knowing everything at the same time for that purpose of redemption because man sinned and man had to be justly punished or pay the price and no natural/sinful man could do this but a perfect man (God in the flesh).

Do you understand that God is Omnipresent? That He fills heaven and earth? That He can be in more than a thousand places at the same time? That He sees what you and I are doing right now even if we hide deep inside a cave thousands of miles apart?

God, by His omnipresent power, operates or relates with His creation in three distinct ways as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That is the Godhead, which some people call the Trinity. And when it is said that Jesus, the Word of God which is God Himself(John 1:14, ch 14:9, Isaiah 9:6) is the "Son of God", some people will compare Him to the nature of a man and be asking who is His wife. 'Son' in this term refers to who proceeded from God. Your biological son is like a replica of you proceeding from you. In another sense, you as a man can call an adopted boy your 'son' even though you did not give birth to him biologically. Is the son of a Landlord not also a Landlord? Is the 'Son' of the Divine and Supreme Being (God) not also a Divine and Supreme Being? "I and my Father are one." - John 10:30
(Colossians 1:15-19, Matthew 28:18, John 5:22-23, 1 John 2:22-23, 1 Timothy 3:16)

Many people like you may limit God in their minds to just a Being sitting down in heaven only seeing or attending to one or a few things at a time, or how else could He be ruling/overseeing heaven and earth with all created beings, listening to and attending to the needs of His people here on earth in several places all around the world if He could only process one or a few things at a time like the man He created? Imagine an electronic robot trying to understand the manufacturer's make up of flesh and blood, soul and spirit, but anyway its manufacturer (man) still has limitations.

I wonder what spiritual advancement you can make as a person without the only true God who is the God of the spirits of all flesh.
Christianity EtcRe: 5 Life Lessons To Learn From The Temptation Of Jesus Christ by franklytrue(m): 10:00pm On Oct 05, 2020
BoboNogoDie:
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What do you believe in then?
That book is not just an ordinary book or a story book. It details also an history of God's dealing with man thousands of years ago. It was not written by the slave masters but compiled years before they even existed.

Jesus was God manifested in flesh for the purpose of redemption. Jesus is still alive and there are testimonies about Him from several people. I am one of them.
He will reveal Himself to whosoever is humble and does the will of God. God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.

For many who were martyred or are willing to die for Him, it is because they have come to know Him as the Truth. They know (have experienced) His love, glory and power.

The natural man cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned - Scriptures

I believe in Him also because I have experienced Him for myself. He is alive!

If there were bad eggs as slave masters among those who brought the Gospel to us, does it mean they were all bad? If some persons in a particular tribe or region are terrorists, does it mean every person in that tribe or region is a terrorist?

Jesus Christ is real. He is alive and He is coming back again in this present generation for those who are ready for Him.

Christianity EtcRe: 5 Life Lessons To Learn From The Temptation Of Jesus Christ by franklytrue(m): 4:14pm On Oct 04, 2020
BoboNogoDie:
Shut up!
Your Jesus that couldn't save himself will save me? Are you normal at all?
...Father father WHY HAVE THOU FORSAKEN ME cry
He did it for my sake and yours. We all fell short of the glory of God and were condemned to destruction but he paid (took) the price (punishment) to save (redeem) us because God still loves us but will not lower His holy and righteous standard to accommodate sin.
We become saved from the wrath to come (1 Thess. 1:10) when we acknowledge, confess and accept His offer of salvation. (John 3:16, Rom. 10:8-13)

"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man." - Hebrews 2:9

Death is a separation of the spirit from the body. Spiritual death is separation (estrangement) from God. This offer of salvation is still open to you.
Christianity EtcRe: 5 Life Lessons To Learn From The Temptation Of Jesus Christ by franklytrue(m): 3:55pm On Oct 04, 2020
femi4:
Insulting the devil is scriptural

Jn 8:44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies he is a liar and the father of lies
Insulting is not scriptural. Jesus was not insulting him but stating the facts. Insulting is demeaning or degrading a being below the truth. For example, calling the devil stupid. He is not stupid but crafty. He is ordinarily wiser than a carnal man but the truth of God will prevail over his lies.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 7:30pm On Aug 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Get over yourself!
The people who call Jesus here and there as if they know Him (have any encounter/experience of Him) but He has nothing to do with them, since He is not their Lord and personal Saviour; lip service people.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. - Matthew 7:22-23

For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. - Romans 16:18

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. - 1 Corinthians 12:3

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. - Jude 1:4

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. - 1 Timothy 6:3-5

Seek the Lord Jesus Christ in spirit and in truth, and when you find Him we can talk again. Goodbye

Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 9:22am On Aug 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
What garbage? You mean you have made rules in your mind against my language too?
Who is Jesus Christ to you?
If you wouldn't answer that, we have nothing more to talk about.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 10:29pm On Aug 20, 2020
Kobojunkie:
That is B.S and you know it. In fact, go head and tell me what this verse from Malachi has to do with this topic or any thing being discussed here about what God has indeed commanded of us
B.S? The garbage you have been consuming and now you are spilling it out.
Who is Jesus Christ to you?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 9:58pm On Aug 20, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Garbage In/Garbage out applies only to those who do not have the Spirit of God as their Teacher. They are the ones who are likely to seek out edification from the things of the world, doctrines and traditions of men, and the lot. Those who are followers of Jesus Christ get their edification from the Spirit of God, God Himself, who is their one and only Teacher/Guide/Comforter/Counselor/Helper.

I don't see the relevance of the above verse to this topic. Again, God makes the rules,we are not to add or remove... we are simply to obey the rules AS He, the Almighty has given them us.
You will not see because you are not serving the Living God. You honour Him with your lips but your heart is far from Him.
Who is Jesus Christ to you?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m):
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never said smoking is evil.. Do not then make it your place to add to His commandment.
Yes, people did smoke, and listen to 'secular' music even in the days of Jesus Christ, yet not once did Jesus Christ turn His attention to command His own against them. So, again, do not add to the commandments and do not remove. That is what God said in the Old covenant, and that is also what Jesus Christ warned us never to do in the New Covenant.


I am not talking about the content here. I am simply speaking here of what God actually said we should do versus what men/women such as yourselves choose to believe you can ADD to that which God has commanded us to do. It is an abominable act to assume you are equal to God as to make rules where He has not seen fit to make any.
The Scriptures also say the heart of man is extremely wicked, should you then make rules against your very self as a result? NO, God's rules are the only rules meant for us to follow. Any other rules applied by man have absolutely nothing to do with God and should never be sold as God's. Again, You must NEVER add to what God has commanded of us. Obey the very commands He has given us and leave the rest to individuals to decide for their lives.
Nothing I eat, drink, listen to, watch or even entertain my sense with EDIFIES me. The responsibility for my edification belongs to Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone who through His Spirit teaches us all things we are to know. God told us from even before Jesus Christ showed up that He, and He alone will teach us all about Himself, His truth.
No where does Jesus Christ tell us to look to outside sources for edification. The very idea is an insult to the person of the Spirit of God who was sent to teach us and remind us of all that is Jesus Christ.
I don't have much to say to you since anything goes with you and you keep defending what is not of God. You will probably defend other modern social vices just because they were not talked about in the bible then. If you like keep deadening your conscience, you will answer before the Lord Jesus Christ on the day of judgement. If nothing you take in edifies you as you say, know that it is what you take in that you will bring out (maybe in another form); garbage in, garbage out.

The most important and personal question to you was skipped but you will do yourself well to answer it sincerely: Who is Jesus Christ to you?

Malachi 3:16-18 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m):
Kobojunkie:
why not confront me instead with what is you believe I have said wrong? You do know that is what Jesus Christ Commanded you do in a situation like this, right?

The latter times Paul spoke of in His epistles started even before His death in the first century. What I have done to this point is tell you as far as

Jesus Christ's own commandments what we can or cannot do.

Adding your own fears and anxieties as rules is in direct disobedience of the word of God Himself. If you can show where God indeed said that is not so, then let's see it.

Otherwise stop making false accusations, as if by doing so, you can change the truth of God even in this.
You mention Jesus Christ here and there as if you know Him. Do you really know Him? Who is Jesus Christ to you?

Where did God say we should not smoke in the bible? Or is it the will of God? What about other modern social vices not mentioned in the bible?

If these things were present in those days when Jesus was here on earth, do you think he would, commend, endorse or attentively listen to them and keep them in his recorder? What would Jesus do?

Some persons talk about the secular songs speaking about/against the evils in our society, do we not see and know about the evils all around us even before they sing about it?
The scriptures says that the whole world lieth in wickedness and that Satan is the god of this world. Is it until they talk about it we will know? Is it not even there in the news? Do they really pray about/against these evils or they just only talk?

Some of them may not necessarily seem bad but that is how the line between good and bad is eroded and before a person knows, he/she has become lukewarm to the things of God and anything goes, but God's standard will never change.
And how in any way has these secular music/videos made you any better (edified) or drawn you closer to God or help fortify you against spiritual wickedness in high places? And can you sing those songs in His holy presence?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 12:56pm On Aug 20, 2020
FarmTech:
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U see that guy? He is out to mislead people with the bible.
True. It's either he is a deceiver or he is deceived. The devil is a theologian too, having had more than 6000 years of practice, twisting the scriptures to accommodate excesses; things which will eventually take one out of the narrow way or way one down from continuing therein, in spirit and in truth; sweet junk food (for Kobojunkie)

1 Timothy 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 9:59pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The world that hated Jesus Christ was the world within their temples and synagogues I.e. your Churches and Cathedrals are the world that resemble those closest.

Stop believing the lies that MOGs tell you about those they love to look down on. Jesus Christ Said He and He alone ought to be your only teachers, but MOGs and others have set themselves up in His place to teach lies and wickedness in His name. That is mainly the reason why you think the danger is out there not realizing it is inside of those churches that they lie to you is the house of God.
Who is talking about MOGs and cathedrals here? You are skipping the truth above and talking about MOGs.
If you have received a new heart from God and allowed your mind to be renewed by the Word of God (Romans 12:1, 2), you will come to know that these things are dross. Christ's kingdom is not of this world.

Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 9:49pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
dont inject your own meanings int what Jesus Christ said. Please go back through and tell us where God commanded that you stay away from music and movies if the secular kind.

By the way, the world that hated Jesus Christ, was not the world of sinners but the world that was instead filled with Pharisees, Sadducees, Rabbis, Teachers of the Law, MOGs, Prophets, Spirtual fathers, Priests and High Priests.. That was the world that hated Jesus Christ. That was the same world Jesus Christ warned His followers to stay away from.

Wonder what world today that closely resembles?
The same world even this present one that is worse, you are frolicking with.

1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

People are just trying to give excuses for carnal entertainment but these things have no place in the kingdom of heaven. They are properties of the broad way not the narrow way to heaven. And for a Christian, as Jesus told us, our kingdom is not of this world. There are far better things in store in God's kingdom for His people.

Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 9:35pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
where did God tell you this?
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1 John 4:1-6 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Romans 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Romans 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

Romans 14:11-12 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

The songs don't confess Jesus, the words/lyrics don't edify (some very idle/profane), and they are not to the glory of God. These are a few places God has told me. Where did God tell you your own?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 9:00pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The Spirit of God inspires it all...even what you call secular music. He is in only Spirit of Inspiration and He inspires the use of all knowledge for any and every purpose out there.
Lies! The devils influence/encourage every ungodly thing. No secular music is inspired by the Spirit of God, and they are not to the glory of God neither are they spiritually edifying. Some people have used their talents to produce rubbish. They will account for it on judgement day.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Listening To Secular Music or Watching Movie Bad For A Christian? by franklytrue(m): 2:12pm On Aug 16, 2020
'Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.' - 1 John 2:15-17

PoliticsRe: FG Dumps Plastic I.D Card For Digital Identification by franklytrue(m): 7:45pm On Aug 13, 2020
princepee:
Ok ooo, i registered four years ago and am yet to get the card, this digital stuff will probably take ten years to complete....

And I just hope it's not the Antichrist thing... wink
It is a preamble, possibly a test run in Nigeria so that the main one will be easily accepted by the masses, but some people will not understand how cunny and crafty Satan is. All your information will be at the tip of their fingers even your DNA and people will be under their control.
The Lord Jesus Christ is coming very soon, even in this our generation. The mark of the beast (RFID microchip - ID2020 - Bill Gates) will soon be enforced and no buying or selling without it. That shows us how close the coming of the Lord Jesus is.
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Is The Rapture? by franklytrue(m):
DappaD:
Lol I care less about who you think I am
Can you provide a rebuttal for what I've said concerning Elijah's account or you'll be like the usual churchgoer and say ‘All I know is that Elijah went to heaven I don't want to talk about it’ ?
It is not about what I think about you but what God sees and think about you which is less than what you have esteemed yourself to be.

These two persons who have not died physically, Enoch and Elijah, are possibly the two prophets that will prophesy in Israel, in a short time to come, for 1260 days clothed in sack clothes. (Revelation 11:1-12)
Understanding that there are heavens, even spiritual heavens, these two are stationed in that which is not the main heaven where the throne of God is because they are not completely spirits yet -they have not physically died. In time to come, they will be sent to fulfil their mandate (finish their testimony) and the good and righteous God who will not kill His own, will allow them to be killed by the beast and after three and a half days, the Spirit of Life from God will enter into them and they will be invited and will ascend into heaven in the sight of their enemies just like Jesus did.
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Is The Rapture? by franklytrue(m): 9:27pm On Aug 12, 2020
DappaD:
That's why I first asked you if you're a Trinitarian! Seems you don't know your identity.

All your claims are actually false, since you can't point to a single Scripture that said Jesus resurrected with his physical body.

Enough of that now, I'd like to see how you pan out the account of Elijah now.
All these bible claims are false? That which you have not taken the time to search out as a wise 'Berean' of the book of Acts 17. Full well the scriptures speak of such people as you.

2 Timothy 3:5-9 'Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.'

I have nothing much to discuss with you since you deny the greatness and power of the God and His only begotten Son, whom you claim to be his witness. False witnesses you all are with the scriptures you have twisted and erroneously edited as your bible because you know not the God you call upon, only head knowledge of. For half truth and selected, is falsehood and deception (1 Timothy 4:1-2).

And my identity now is, Christ in me the hope of glory. Pray that it will be yours also, and that you perish not when you take the Word of God lightly and focus only on what you want and not the whole counsel of God (Revelation 22:10-20).
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Is The Rapture? by franklytrue(m):
DappaD:
Focusing on the words in bold, what does that say concerning the resurrection of Jesus?
Concerning resurrection: sown a natural body...raised a spiritual body.
That is for bodies that were buried in the ground and become decayed/disintegrated.

Note, Christ's body was not buried inside the soil but kept in a sepulchre. It did not decay like the normal dead bodies. It stayed for less than three full days first before it was resurrected; that same body and not another. His body was quickened (made alive) by the Spirit of God.

Remember Jesus said he has the power to lay down his life and to take it up again. He also told the Jews to destroy this temple (referring to his body) and he will raise it up again. That he has done because he himself, as part of the Godhead (one with the Father), is the resurrection and the life. (John 2:19-22, ch 10:17-18, ch 11:25)

Christ is much greater than you have ever known. He is not just a teacher or prophet. He is the Word of God made flesh. And that same Word is God (John ch 1:1-14, 1 Tim 3:16); the Word that made the worlds (Heb ch 1:2, ch 11:3).
He, who was before Abraham, took upon himself the form of a man and was made in the likeness of man and became obedient unto death even the death of the cross. He is now exalted. A body that did not result through the normal process of procreation was prepared for him, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father (Philippians 2: 6-11, Heb. 10:5, Isaiah 9:6).

Now unto him, God, Who was manifest in the flesh, has all authority in heaven and on earth being given, and He is the heir of all things (John 5:21-27, Matt 28:18, Col 1:16-19, 1 Pet. 3:22, Rev. 5:13, ch 22:12-13, 1 Cor. 1:24, Heb. 1:2)

He, the living Word of God, who is ordained to be the judge of the living and the dead, has spoken and said that He is coming back again. His words are spirit and they are life. In His Father's house are many mansion. He will come again very soon to take His pure bride home for the marriage supper of the Lamb and other things follow after that unto eternity (Acts 10: 42, ch 1:11, ch 17:3, Romans 2:16, ch 14:10, 2 Tim. 4:1, Rev. 19:11, John 6: 63, ch 14:1-3, Rev. 19:9)
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Is The Rapture? by franklytrue(m): 10:31pm On Aug 11, 2020
DappaD:
Lol. We are following a pattern here.
Can you open your Bible and check 1Corinthians 15:44, 1Timothy 3:16 and 1Peter 3:18, let's see the body Jesus resurrected with.
1 Corinthians 15:42-44 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

1 Peter 3:18-19 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Is The Rapture? by franklytrue(m): 10:25pm On Aug 11, 2020
DappaD:
Let's make this an interactive discussion.
First of all, who was the king of northern Israel at the time Elijah was a prophet? And in whose reign did he cease being a prophet for northern Israel?
I would have to start checking chronology but Ahab and Jezebel were reigning at that time in one of the kingdoms of Isreal
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Is The Rapture? by franklytrue(m): 10:21pm On Aug 11, 2020
DappaD:
We are coming to that.
Are angels spirit bodies or not?
If you believe they are, you can see at Genesis 18:1-8 that angels who materialised into human bodies actually did eat food prepared by Abraham. Look at verse 8 especially.
So why is so hard for you to understand that God can dematerialise bodies too and take them to heaven. Is it impossible for Him?
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Is The Rapture? by franklytrue(m): 10:15pm On Aug 11, 2020
DappaD:
Why not leave Russel and organization out of this, so we can face the issue at hand?
Are you ready to know that Elijah didn't go up to heaven or not?
Say on

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