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platinumnk:
ooh hes cute

Thanks

@ post,
Junior gunners,

Okanran:
Carry ya halloween face comot hia!

Really? I was not aware,

Moyola:
Whatta grin!

Scattered,

Moyola:
Non!

, why?, It's not compulory shah,

@Topic,
No!

No please

No, not sure if its a he or she.

Funtionality is priority. If you have functionality and attractiveness in one person, good and fine, but as this is not always the case. I'll choose functionality. No use marry an extremely pretty wife who is 'bitchy'.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What the eye of the beholder values is what it will see. What you also consider as 'functionality' may also differ. I value intelligence, kindness, resourcefulness, honesty, witty sense of humor, peace and a diplomatic approach to issues. Any lady who does not strike me as having those will get my cold shoulder from day one no matter how 'awesome' her physical attributes may seem to be.

stanekeh:
fgc,enugu.slpt in d bush in my jurnior days

lol, I was in FGC Enugu too (98 set), If you had a correct school father you would not need to sleep in the bush

topup:
Update: I am considering doing my year out placement in Lagos for the year 2010-2011. I have no idea how to go about it, especially as I am based in the UK and I have no relatives who are architects, so I would have to rely purely on contacting strangers, and since there are concerns about the struggle of the Nigerian Architect, I am really praying for positive responses. Who knows I might not get a placement in a good firm in Lagos next year, who knows I might. But I have only a bit of time to get everything sorted, approvals, papers and the sort.

@topup
There are very good firms in Lagos where you can do your year out placement. if I have your email I can send you contacts of people I know in such firms as AT Onajide, ACCL. You seem to prefer Lagos. Otherwise, If you want Abuja, I can give contacts in Habitat Associates. It's one of the topmost firms in Nigeria. Alternatively, you can simply send emails to these firms through their websites. They may be happy to consider you. I have just mentioned the places I have contacts in. There are other very good firms such as FMA (Femi Majekodumni Architects), ECAD Lagos.

This argument about 'giant of Africa' is sickening, Ok. Assuming Nigeria wins the argument, how will it help us? dem dey chop 'Giant of Africa' title? No one argues with evidence. If we do more of showing it so that it can be proven empirically, this argument will not be necessary. We too like title.

@ Larez.

I may not agree with everything you say, but I think I like your arguments and reasoning. I'm kinda learning alot from you.

larez:
You know, when a person views some buildings, they see some as looking Nice and right, while some are considered awkward. What are the premises of these feelings? They are usually scale and balance which are traditional traits.

The relativist premise of post modernism would not accept traditional traits as universal. Based on relativism, what will seem to be in the right scale to you may not be in the right scale to me, and the same goes for balance. There is nothing wrong with holding unto traditional values, but it will be hard to convince me that a style that does not retain a link to tradition is not good architecture. When it comes to architecture, I am inclined towards relativism, If it feels right for the context, do it. To hell with tradition!

@ Larez, What do you think about architecture in the age of relativism?

I think that is what post modernism is all about. Relativism is the popular culture that says that there is no moral obligation and usually defies tradition.

What in your opinion is the impact of technology on what you call 'purity of form'? In the days of Le Corbusier and even far back to the classical era, hybrid structures that have pushed the boundaries of form making was not possible.

There are other 21st century realities that have taken architecture beyond the imperial concerns of the classical times. For example, sustainability and eco concerns and the inclination to want to do more with less.

If you say good architecture retains traditional links, I would say that 'tradition' is precisely what post modernism revolts against. and that is where the world is right now.

Here is document that tabulates the pros and cons of the different CAD softwares, you may find it helpful

yoruba:
I guess I was underestimating the power of Archicad, those 3d's are very good!

Archicad is great. However one thing you must remember is that beyond the capability of the software, alot depends on the person using it. I've seen people do crap with archicad.

the model below was done with autocad (the 2d package), but it was rendered in artlantis, and 'photshopped'. The car models look like crap though. the versions of Autocad before 2007 allows you to convert a model in .dwg format to .3ds format which can be imported and rendered in artlantis. Unfortunately, this is not easy with the recent versions of Autocad -one of the reasons I'm now sticking with 3d max (it's hard though).

mahal:
I believe you mean Rendering and Animation not for CAD Working Drawings

Exactly what I think. I qualified as an architect in Nigerian and presently doing an urban planning masters. In the UK, planners are 'lords' (if I should put it that way) in the built environement. Nothing gets done without them. In Nigeria, leaving architecture for Urban Planning because of money is like moving from frying pan to fire.

dblock:
Only really good architects make the real money that's why.

I'm going to do urban planning and if I want to design anything I will give it to my Uncle to finalize.

If you are thinking of quiting because of money and you are considering 'urban planning', is that not like jumping from frying pan to fire?

Galatians 5:22-24 (New International Version)

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.

1st Corinthain 14:32 (New International Version)
The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. For God is not a God of disorder but of peace.

I dont fall under any anointing. There is no point. Standing while others are falling looks more to me like 'self-control' than falling for nothing. It probably doesn't do anything more than earning cheap glory for the 'anointed' 'man of God'. I dont see any scriptural justification for it.

the link posted by SirJohn earlier makes sense

http://www.searchingtogether.org/articles/oconner/slain.htm

lekside44:
can anybody yell me hich is the best software around to creat architectural drawings? autocad, archicad, autocad for architecture, e.t.c

It depends, I use all three. You ommitted Revit Architecture, which in my opinion is the 'end of discussion' in the autodesk family. Archicad is also as good as revit, but I use more of autodesk products.

Unlike AutoCAD which is a CAD software, ArchiCAD and Revit Architecture are BIM softwares (BIM means Building Information modelling). BIM should be your best bet since in the final analysis you would want make your life easier and generate architectural drawings, schedule and rendering automatically from a building model.

persist:
Mistake choosing my first JOb[/color]


I am working for a great computer programming company here in nigeria.I started two months ago[color=#990000].THough I studied physics I was given a chance  to prove my self in programming.I Loved the little I used to do while i was in school[color=#990000][/color] but now after like two month I fell like hell My head pounds during work and I get scared like shit.I am not even producing good code.The thing seems very stressful.

Please guys I am thinking of quitting with my integrity intact before one boss starts shouting  Useless on me.I am confused should I quit.I feel like I should switch to networking by attending at least a three month course.

NB A friend help me get this job actually and he said if i should quit within 2 months I will look like I cam to siphon some cash and run and also It will give him a bad name in the company since I entered through his recommendation.

Guy what should i do .Should I quit and just change careers?

I'm not a programmer, but I think I can say something. First, I dont think those who are saying he should quit diagnosed his problem carefully:

1. It is his first job (thus a new comer to the challenges in the work environment)
2. It is something he loved (hence he made out time to learn it while in school even though he was studying physics)
3. He has just spent two months on the job (wont he be a magician to know it all at this stage?)

I dont think his problem is a lack of interest in the job role (in which case, he would have to switch to another job or career). I think it is the normal challenge that people (especially new comers) face in the work environment.

@Poster,
my advice would be that you should stick with it. With time you will improve. I also faced the same challenge in my own field. This is the best time to make mistakes as a beginner and learn from them and grow.

having said that, it will also help to go ahead with your plan to explore other areas of IT, such as networking (while you are still on your job), just for the sake of personal development. You may find other areas more fun and do a smooth transition to other areas you consider fun, rather than 'cut out' just like that. In my opinion, that would be cowardly. and hey. . . the grass looks greener on the other side.

persist:
Mistake choosing my first JOb


I am working for a great computer programming company here in nigeria.I started two months ago.THough I studied physics I was given a chance  to prove my self in programming.I Loved the little I used to do while i was in school but now after like two month I fell like hell My head pounds during work and I get scared like shit.I am not even producing good code.The thing seems very stressful.

Please guys I am thinking of quitting with my integrity intact before one boss starts shouting  Useless on me.I am confused should I quit.I feel like I should switch to networking by attending at least a three month course.

NB A friend help me get this job actually and he said if i should quit within 2 months I will look like I cam to siphon some cash and run and also It will give him a bad name in the company since I entered through his recommendation.

Guy what should i do .Should I quit and just change careers?

I'm not a programmer, but I think I can say something. First, I dont think those who are saying he should quit diagnosed his problem carefully:

1. It is his first job (thus a new comer to the challenges in the work environment)
2. It is something he loved (hence he made out time to learn it while in school even though he was studying physics)
3. He has just spent two months on the job (wont he be a magician to know it all at this stage?)

I dont think his problem is a lack of interest in the job role (in which case, he would have to switch to another job or career). I think it is the normal challenge that people (especially new comers) face in the work environment.

@Poster,
my advice would be that you should stick with it. With time you will improve. I also faced the same challenge in my own field. This is the best time to make mistakes as a beginner and learn from them and grow.

having said that, it will also help to go ahead with your plan to explore other areas of IT, such as networking (while you are still on your job), just for the sake of personal development. You may find other areas more fun and do a smooth transition to other areas you consider fun, rather than 'cut out' just like that. In my opinion, that would be cowardly. and hey. . . the grass looks greener on the other side.

moag:
I am currently with an oil servicing company with a relatively better pay ,[b]but i cant wait to return to architectural practice![/b]I N architecture the ogas take ALL.

mahal:
Don't you think it would be difficult?

Like Mahal rightly pointed out. I know a number of classmates and colleagues who left architecture for better pay in other sectors, hoping to come back later to architecture. I've not seen one person return back. Switching jobs sectors like that is not easy. The most some of them do is to land jobs from their contacts and give their colleagues to execute on their behalf (while they still take credit for it). If you love architecture that much, you would stick with it, complete you professional registration and become an 'Oga' someday rather than 'cutting out'.

There is nothing wrong with changing careers, though.

agabaI23:
isi okwu gi a wee buru gini? Biko tapiakene ife ikwuru na igbo ka o doo ewu na okuko anya.
Ya gaziere gi!

Biko rapu ya. I na ana the 'anu mpam' nti?

ifyalways:
Chito and Tochi . .for twin boys.means:Praise God.
Nnamdi:Our father is alive.
Chizitere:God sent.
Nonso:God is always by my side.

Ihunna or (Irunna), depending on your dialect -means The father's face
Chibueze -God is king
Okwudilichukwu -Case belongs to God (like legal case)
Nneto -I'm praising
Onyisi -Chairman, could be a nickname to yab someone with a big head
Kelenna -Thank my father (Kelechi -thank God can be used for both male and female)
Sopuruchukwu -Respect God (Sopuru for short)

mahal:
do i really have to justify my concept or design to the contractor even after convincing the client?
does he have the powers to strike out any part(s) of the work without the consent of the architect?

Actually, he doesn't have such powers, professionally speaking. But in the Nigerian context (in many cases), people don't follow the rules. An example easily comes to mind is a project in a top Architectural firm I worked with. They are the consultants in a top federal government project (the project is ongoing). Because of bugdet overrun and constraints, the client (FCDA)was looking for a way to cut cost. The contractor, also looking for a way to maximize profit pushed for the architect's fenestration design to be struck out, I dont know how it finally went before I left but I know that the contractor had political clout to get what they want. The architect had to resort to 'connection' in order to insist on the design as well as justifying it on 'functionality' basis?

Do you see what I mean? If things are done strictly professionally, they dont have the powers to stike it out. But in Nigeria things are not always done stictly professionally. Contractors like Julius Berger, have been known to use their political weight to make clients sack architects. I can give examples of projects that this has happened, except that I dont want to post it on this forum.

In smaller projects, where the architect may not be engaged for the supervision, it is easy for the contractor to do what he wants.

@ Mahal.

You are right. The trick is that whilst you may have a 'symbolic' agenda, when it comes to clients, you have to use a 'functional' justification for that. That would also ensure that it will not be a part of the project that the contractor will strike out during construction in order to maximise profit.

mahal:
It seem this "innovative" or "symbolic" has become a trend especially in the 3 arm cities of Nigeria
Abj, lagos and PH.

Dont you think that is one of the reasons those places are the places where architecture is practiced? It is the symbolic that makes architecture transcend beyond 'building'. the use of symbol and meaning (sometimes abtract) is one of the things that makes the architect the 'creative' professional, different from the technician or draughtman.

mahal:
well, i still haven't gotten an explanation for the roof

I'm not sure what the roof was for. Whether it is symbolic or of specific function, I can safely assume that the reason must have been justified before the client considering the money that must have been spent on it.

I think another weekness in the architectural profession in Nigeria, is the lack of publications that critique structures. In the UK for example, Architecture Review, Building Quarterly and 'Planning' are published regularly to evaluate developments in the Built Environment. If such was available, probably the idea behind the roof (whether symbolic or functional) would be in the public domain. As it is now, only the architect knows, and maybe the clients and the other consultants involved.

I can confirm later from a reliable source what the roof was intended for. In case it is symbolic, I dont think there is anything wrong with it. it wont be the first time. An example is the roof of this hotel in Cardiff bay, UK

iniguy:
I am not igbo, i just came in to say hi, i've got many igbo friends.

Dalu! I mere ofuma

That's like saying, "you are welcome" or more literally, "you have done well"

yoruba:
@mahal
So who design that building then?

It was done  by CCECC (A chinese design and buildconstruction firm based in Abuja) in conjustion with H.abitat As.soci.ates. The involvement of a Nigerian firm from the Working drawing stage ensured that local building regulations and functionality standards were adhered to.

Dis Guy:
mahal, i think its just a show off really, chances are it was design by a foreigner
very little considerations to the functionality though it would be interesting to get the views of people that
actually use the building-workers and visitors


another thing i notice, most govt building are not being used to capacity, they are not rented out to make money
and they(MDAs) all want to own a building of their own

Why do you think so? What do you mean by 'functionality'? Note that developments in building technology, and the move towards a postmodernism has pushed the boundaries of 'functionality'. We need to change the mentality that suggests that if a buidling is not square or rectangluar in form, then it is not functional. That is the lie we were made to believe in our school of architecture.

People have different opinions about functionality, but on a balance, I think that the NCC building is functional. In terms of energy efficiency, it has a courtyard, which ensures that the occupants can choose not to depend on mechanical ventilation. The glazed circular areas of the facade are  stairwells, well, one is a stairwell and the other accomodates circular conference rooms on different floors, which I think is perfect.

pres-elect:
lol, lekwanu m biafran passport unu ekwekwala ndi mgba-okpuru ruo unu akpuruka. buru ego unu gbafuo

i na ato m ochi, Ekweghi m na 'passport' bu ihe mbu ndi choro biafra kwesiri imeputa, O di ka ha echozo go na Biafra nke Ojukwu biri akwukwo 'currency'