yarimo:
Foolish governor paying people to visit him

Enemy of the state spotted

And throw thousands if not millions of people out of job.

Outstandingmam:


Mr, I'm not a naive Nigerian. I know what obtains. I've been traveling outside Nigeria for vacations as a secondary school student before I thought of going for higher studies so spare me that patronizing tone.

My issue with you and your likes is your huge empathy deficit. I always wished to join my voice to the threads that are opened to warn about unbridled desire to just leave Nigeria but the penchant to tag us as haters prevented me. Imagine how you came swinging into my comment? I don't like Internet arguments and I deliberately avoid them

Nigerians believe they can do anything and it's just not true. This OP and others like him made errors which they shouldn't make. The urge to game the system is in most Nigerians because we hardly follow the rules. I'm a stickler for rules but will I throw my child away because he broke the rules?

He has made his mistakes, he is stewing in it now, why do you think you need to turn the knife? What benefit is it to you? Or to him? Depression is real. I'm only being my brother's keeper pls.

UK as a japa route don cast. That's the basic truth. If you don't have the funds, forget about it. Yesterday I learned that a guy staying in an estate close to ours sold his 3 bedroom fine house for 40m (ordinarily, 60m is too cheap for such) to go to the UK because his wife got care job. They're back to Lagos now hiding from everybody. I can't imagine being in the same shoes with that family but I'm sure they were warned but refused to hear.

The thread I put out there saved a lot who would have made a terrible mistake coming to UK. Preventing them from selling off their property at give away.
I know of someone who is well paid, wife well paid. Left his job, [b]sold his house half [/b]the price, sold his car, sold his wife car then came to UK last year. He is with me here . He hasn't seen a stable job. Job he saw only worked one month and off. Wife also searching for job.

So people should put a break... I mean Japa people. If you are going there to school and return then go

Outstandingmam:


Yeah it's you I was referring to.

I almost cried reading all the very harsh comments they threw your way on that thread. How can these folks be so heartless? Mistakes have been made and you've obviously learned your lesson which is why you came to warn people yet these sanctimonious folks still wanted to pile on your misery. I'm very happy to hear that you've emerged strong out of it. I hope you keep on soaring.

I wanted to come to UK too but my hubby blatantly refused sponsoring me there because in his words "UK education is simply a business with no human touch and it'll soon cast". I went elsewhere with my kids and my husband sponsoring us from Nigeria so I don't have to face the issues you guys are facing.

I wish the OP a resolution and I hope all intending japa folks will not always think everyone advising caution is a hater. I'm happy my husband refused to be swayed by the fanciful stories we were reading and watching online. Maybe I'd have been wallowing in depression too.

Actually most people don't really tell what they passed through here they only say things when they going has smoothen out and this has lead a lot to make terrible mistakes.
I wont advice anyone to come to UK now through education... I mean those coming through Japa.

People should put a break to it or look elsewhere.

Am happy you are doing well with the choices you have made

Outstandingmam:
What the oldies are doing to the OP is quite unfair. The guy only opened a thread to warn others not to fall into the trap. He isn't begging for money or whatever. It takes a lot for him to come out with his story and I think it's a service most should be grateful for.

The few times I come to this forum, I see a lot of people who try to warn others about the japa craze. They try to sound the alarm that not all is as it seems but they're tagged bad belle and enemies of progress who don't want others to get there or that they've failed at getting visas hence the hate. I've wanted to lend my voice to it but I don't have time or energy for Internet toxicity which is so rife on this forum.

You guys should pls give the guy a break. He didn't kill person. The UK that gives everyone Visa knows they need the money. They also know people will not have the money immediately otherwise, why not insist on full payment before they come? Of course they will lose customers that's why. You gave someone a repayment plan and you now change it in the middle of the game, haba!!

You 'established' japarians should chill pls. That's how when one poster called Funclub (or what's his name) opened a thread, using his real experience to ask guys to think twice about embarking on japa, they almost lynched him here.

OP, just try and hang in there. I pray for you to get a way out. I hope you break free soon.

You called my mention... Hello and good morning.

Justwise is that kind of person that can't render finanacial assistance to anyone around. There was no unprintable name he didn't called me. Am sure he don't pick any of his relative calls from where he is.


Finally I have gotten a job and things are smoothening and I have gotten used to the system.I wil give another thread after my schooling

To all hustlers who want to change the narrative... We will all be alright, have the thick skin and keep pushing.

Treadway:
I totally understand your experience. That is why I said to my own wife emphatically that I'm never gonna take the UK route unless she is ready to face the work palava and pressure, while I study😁😁😁 since na she japa dey pepper for body. Good you sha got a job. You have made the move already, so you just absolutely have to keep forging ahead.

I'm also considering relocation now, but spending that much for the UK? God forbid!

UK? Through sponsorship that legit.... Okay but through study? Forget it

amorprincesa:
Actually, it is somewhat difficult now. You see that Birmingham in England which is the Indian and Arab mini country, I won't advice my enemy to go there. Though some persons might be lucky but getting a student job there now eh?....

Please no one should have working for 20 hours to pay school fees in mind. Don't o! You might have high blood pressure due to worries.
Pay all of your fees before coming then the 20 hours can suffice for rent and groceries.

As per your attached image, school and hospital cleaners requires DBS. They even do interview sef😂😂😂 there is also training required if you are going to be measuring and mixing chemical cleaning agents. You have to be certified.

Overrated UK! Like someone said, if he sees who would return all his money spent on this UK Journey, he will go back home that same day.

This is what has been holding me, nothing more. Each time I remember the funds I will feel like crying.
Even where I am Indians are everywhere even Sri Lanka and lots of Asians. You hardly see Nigerians though.
But not all cleaning require DBS. Except school, hospital and care home... I believe if the cleaning are done in certain places other than this place you will not necessarily need standard or enhanced DBS.

Treadway:
Fullclub

Any update on your job search? Last I followed, a few people offered to help...I hope you or wife or you both have secured a job/jobs now..

in this obodo onyibo. Who wan help you even in churches

When you are in need you go understand that the only people you have are your family... Blood relative and no one else
Even 10 pounds no one will dash you here.

I landed a 20 hours forklift job after I did a certification that cost me a much... That certification in that field prevented others who don't have same certificate from applying.
So you can see that the job market is responding to demand and supply.

People came to attack me saying lie, lazy this that... Someone that gathered 15m in Nigeria without fraud is lazy.

Mcslize:


Man, try and follow men wey know road. Many persons have given you hidden advice. Read between the lines and fight your way through. Sharon1 even told you something about your CV, you are refuting every efforts people are trying to offer you. I have been reading through the thread and a couple of persons have dropped some golden tips but you are not just seeing them to take advantage of them.

Life is all about being smart and thinking out of the box. If you are from the trenches like us, as a normal Naija guy, you are supposed to be very very smart. We are known to be smart people. We no be ozuo people. Did you even read what sharon1 told you? What of the other guys that are giving you subtle tips? You ain't just getting it bro. You're too fixated on the there are no jobs mindset.

It might be that it's your mindset that's working against you. Try and be liberal and have an open mind. Be positive. Our thoughts always have a way to make us or mar us. Pls, go through the posts in this thread and give a try to those subtle tips some persons are giving you to land a job.

Which Cv? I have almost 8 cvs collected from various people.. You won't understand unless you are in this shit..
I was able to land a job after I did a forklifting certification which cost me over... Let me not mention.

So please stop attacking me. I did everything humanly possible and even the impossible I did.

even all those people that said I should contact them.... I did non respond to my mail

Unitil you find your self in a distance land you will know that no one has your time everybody are chasing either to renew their residential permit, or one immigration stuff or the other

Mcslize:


Fullclub take note. Stop complaining there are no jobs. Now, this person has dropped another tip for you. Take advantage. Just in case you didn't see it, I have highlighted it boldly for you.

Those places he mentioned is unrealistic... Can you be schooling in Lagos and be going for jobs in Sokoto. Whereby by flight you will spend 100 pounds goinand coming and by train 45 pounds and you spend 5 hours going and coming or by bus you spend whole day. How will you meet up with school?
If you missed school or taking attendance then the immigration will be contacted

elijah101:
Its simple , u did not plan well , i have friends …immediate family that had a plan before traveling , they are doing very well and even more family members are going to join them , you need to have a plan … have a plan and ask questions from
Experienced people … work on your plan till you can see a headway in your plan then move …. Its easy

Thbaks very much. Nigerians will always blame you for everything bad to happens to you once you are away

Mcslize:


Pls, how far have you gone with the job hunting? Have you landed a job? You're not even updating us how far you've gone. You created this thread more than a month now. Tell us how far you've gone with the job thing. Have you gotten a job?

Yes I land a job after doing some certification training that cost me almost 1 million plus naira.

I figured out that those area there are no much job applicant so I went for it.
The reality is is that most care job, cleaning jobs people use to see are all being chased by vast numbers of people that came in last year and this year.. So certification courses like folklift etc will help you secure job because this certificate don't come cheap

LudaChriz:

You're over-generalizing. Someone just corrected you yet you don't want to keep to correction. Again, don't forget that some people are unemployable. You and your friends might be an example

He is saying the truth.. Jobs are scarce now in UK.
Ask people on ground. Am in the UK also. Took me 3 months to land one and it's just 20 hours and it just takes care of house rent...meaning school fees, electricity bills, and other bills are on other sources

I think I made a post that hit the front page about this last time. Only that people hate the truth or reality that didn't meet their expectations and wants fancy fancy stories.

I would have posted a lot of complaints but I don't know if the people are on nairaland.
But if coming, don't keep expectation high..hold money for house rent... Like 3 to 4 months, foods, like 3 to 4 months, hold extra funds and above all have people to fall on back home for assistance. Cos since September I came here I know lots and lots that haven't seen one job till today I am chatting you while very few are extremely lucky to land a job the vast majority are still without

lovelybobo:


Now that you have asked, let me give you some guide.
You will need to honestly respond to the following questions

Question 1: Which industry do you hope to practice as a data analyst or scientist? You will need to select either one or two industries.
examples are Sales, Marketing, Supply Chain, Health Care, Social Media, and Customer Relations etc.

Question 2 : Do you know the top 15 KPIs that govern that industry? and how to determine them using the tools of your choice.

Question 3: Looking at the Tools: Do you know the types of references used in Excel and their business use cases? How many aggregate functions can you use in Excel and their business use cases? How many data cleaning functions do you know about in Excel and their business use cases?. You need to know how to solve business problems because you will work in a business environment.

The same questions will apply to most of the tools we use in data analytics.

Unfortunately, there are no courses, to the best of my knowledge, that can extract that information and give it to you.

My Personal Recommendations:

1) Choose an industry and get a dataset for that industry. Find out the top 10 or 15 KPIs used in that industry and how they are calculated mathematically. Determine those KPIs using your dataset. You can now proceed to build a dashboard using that dataset and the KPIs.
Repeat the process with a different dataset until you are confident and comfortable.

Example: The most important KPI for sales is total revenue; others are sales by region or state; sales by sales manager or representative.

I hope it helps you.
!!! Shalom!!!

Helpful

MGeey:
Hello guys.
I stumbled on this thread yesterday.
I am a data analyst. Did the Google analytic course on coursera. I also joined entry level 1 and 2 for additional hands on practical. I'm very good with SQL, excel and not too good with R. I use Tableau for visualisation.

Here's the thing
I haven't been able to land a job yet. I've been applying on upwork. It seems no one wants a data analyst with a less than 2 to 5 years experience 😕.

What do I do? Where else can I apply and get a job?
I want to skill up by adding python and also becoming a data scientist ( please suggest a good tutor either paid or free).

Sometimes I feel so down as if my knowledge could be a waste.

Where did you register for this please

lovelybobo:


The problem is not the certificate. They are very good. The honest question you should ask yourself is: if I am given a dataset now, can I derive meaningful insight from the data? How many tools can I conveniently use to find solutions to my data problems?.

Your answers to these questions will determine whether you will find work or not.

Thanks for your honest answer.

Please which course will you recommend that will enhance my skills.
I'm terms of tableau, mysql, and any other course to analyse data

UncleKoboko:

Tell me exactly what happened.
Obi won?

Did I call oni here? Do you have anything with him?

helinues:


That will be resolved as any disagreement can be resolved at court.

Dino seems not to be in the Kogi Guber race

Please bro... Nigerians are dying of hunger.

Please stop supporting this governors that aren't performing but are hiding under party to steal, kill and loot the nation.


Hope uzodimma does not deserve second term. No single infrastructure you can say he built for the state.

Please support those that are good like umehi, like the governor in bornu state, etc.

Afamed:


Wailing don start again

The governor has not constructed a single flyover or road in owerri. He has turned the state into war zone.. Killings everywhere.

How can Nigeria soo blessed be suffering of bad leadership.
Here in Britain..i see no factories producing goods almost all electronics, clothing, goods comes from China and Asia . No natural deposit.. Still yet so since I came here light has not blink. All road paved.. You will be trying to find sand or mould.

Please support good governance not party as long to hinders economic growth and will only lead to more political instability in Nigeria

UncleKoboko:
Lol

And the same people voting for him keeps wailing and complaining if his bad and corrupt governance EVERY DAY!

BLOODY HYPOCRITES

Most Nigerians are not ready for good governance.

Didn't you see what happened in presidential elections? If elections are conducted free and fair the pig governor won't get a vote.

They rewrite election results

olufak2001:


Where did you get this information from? I'm in Europe and nothing like this exist. The OP is about to take biggest risk of us life. It is God that has be there for us here. I will not discourage you, come and try your luck sha. But you will miss those children a lot.

Pray and pray well.

Don't mind those set of people with all know all... Pushing people into regret of life

Gwin007:
Thank you.. please which other processes can I use to travel legally but my budget is 5m naira

What's 5 million naira..

I came to Europe with almost 2m plus after spending 15m plus in Nigeria and also top it 2m plus... Still needing money like mad


Please stay back... Stay back else

delpee:
Why don't you invest the money you have in business here? Going with a tourist visa with a plan to stay and work is risky. Those who want to make money out of you will not tell you the truth.

The other option is to get a legitimate work visa before you leave and have enough to sustain you for some months before you're stable on a job.

We that have visa to work never see.

No landlord will ever rent you a house..
No employer will rent you a house..

Until you have right to rent and right to work codes.
He will end up in refugee camp with cold to deal with, with hunger etc.

This white has computerised everything.

Gwin007:
Good day nairalanders.. please I need advice on what to do.. am married with three kids, 5, 3 , and a year old.. I own a bussines.. but for now my bussines is down, the has been very good and lucrative.. but due to lack of capital to invest more on it. It was now shaking.. but the thing now is that.. I have the capital to invest on the bussines.. but now am saying should relocate abroad with the money and leave my 3kids and wife back home or invest on the bussines.. cus am traveling with a tourist visa and it’s a Europe country and I don’t how long it will take to get my papers over there please Nairaland I really need ur opinion not make future mistakes

Thanks

Please and please stay back.

If you have skills.. Then use skills rout... Look for companies that offer sponsorship and apply from Nigeria. It will be easy if you are in health field but if not then IT skills... Go to udemy get courses and learn. Before then research on IT skills in high demand in such countries.
The look for local companies in Nigeria and apply first, even if the pay is peanuts.. You are after real life experience. Do it 6months with them and start applying abroad via sponsorship

Please and please don't travel without adequate plans.. I am warning you..




Else you will regret it

Love800:
Tankz so much for the info.
But i want to ask.
So one must go through a website or get certified for ordinary cleaner job?

I thought there were alot of jobs abroad. That only the lazy ones dont make it in overseas.

Anyone that can come here on his or her own bro is not lazy. I mean anyone that worked and coughed out this huge sum of money is not lazy.
No lazy man can worked 10m in Nigeria... Making one million in Nigeria one should be given a medal.

Again, you need certificate or experience to scale through. They value UK experience like Gold.. If u scale through this then u will be getting jobs hence forthcoming.

But that first push.

pansophist:
If you have 20M, you can actually study in Latvia for example, bring in your family, rent a huge flat, have a Schengen residence permit that gives you entry to about 30 European Schengen countries, and have peace of mind. And oh, you can work there, start a company, and play until permanent residency.

Nigerians, why only the UK? There are other countries out there that will not stress your life. You just have to start somewhere. Lots of Nigerians I have met in these places, will only visit the UK, and go back to maybe Poland.

If you are flexible with learning a new language, then life will be easy for you. I have visited the UK a lot, and surprisingly, I see more wretched Africans there than other small EU countries that most Nigerians would skip.

Guys in Poland, Slovakia, Finland, and Latvia for example are living in huge houses, paying less and having less stress. The world is bigger than the UK.

Are you talking from personal experience r from what your frienda told you or what you read online?
theory is always good on paper.. Please let's say what we have experienced not assumptions

Love800:
Tankz so much
The money big o.
I have plans relocating to canada to do masters from there i will become a lecturer. But with dis amount am seeing, it will be very hard.

Tankz though

That's why I was crying that after spending much... I still came n be suffering looking for jobs.

Love800:
Still dont understand.

Are you with your calculator?

Living expenses roughly 10k pounds
For a dependant roughly 6k pounds
Let's say your school fees is 15k pounds.
If exchange rate is 1400...then only this is going to 40 million naira.

Visa and health insurance 1450 dollars. I don't know now. Multiply by two if u have a dependant.

Other small small expensises... Tb test, passport fee unless u have already, booking of biometric... Priority? 250 pounds, plus other fees like that

Love800:
Is it the full sch fee, house rent and upkeep dat amount to 35-40m?
Or
It is just the upkeep alone dat amount to 35-40m?

Every every

litaninja:
You are in an entirely new country, with a handicap of a limited visa and funds from a similarly handicapped country.
You have been there for one month, not really sure what you're expecting. Similarly to just starting out in your home country, you have to get the lay of the land, you have to pay your dues, Give it time bruv.

Thanks baba. I appreciate

northbird:


There' s a job waiting for you. someone just asked you to mail him if you can work in a junkyard.. @ tillbury or so

Please quote the person for me

acorntree:


Fight it out there o. Don't ever think of coming back to Nigeria till you stabilize there. Nigeria is still on autopilot, moving backward and a little forward. In 5 years time you will be happy that you leave this hell called a country. I wish you all the best in your endeavor. Please don't listen to all these naysayers on nairaland blaming you for leaving the hell hole. Most of them are not different from our greedy politician, they live flamboyantly on proceeds of sharp practices, corruption, fraud, etc and that's why they can't leave the country. Some of them who claimed they have businesses or investment here are mostly liars , their business practices are embodiment of corruption. As at today real business owners are lamenting. People are facing tough time now. We just pray it gets better. Just believe with time things will be better for you there. Don't ever look back to your vomit. Pursue your goals with unwavering commitment in the face of challenges.Face your new path and you will conquer your fear.

Thanks sir... Really appreciate