AllenSpencer:



Death? That’s out of the picture.

An illegal will get a job, a house and even regularize when he starts making money.

Don’t argue with me about games I know. When I told you over 700K illegal immigrants are present in the UK, did you question yourself about how they happen to be surviving? Many are making it to legal status yearly.

Do you think they rent houses or have a job? You feel they all on the streets?

Sit down I think about it. Where are the illegal migrants staying in the UK and how do they cope. In your quest to know the answer of those questions, you will start finding out how they do it.

Oya try it. Give it a try since you know all.

AllenSpencer:


Don’t let me be bursting plays online. I believe you will one day meet people who started from that buttom. But don’t ever say it where men are game that it is “IMPOSSIBLE” to get a house and a job. People will laugh at you.

You can go to Quora and raise that topic, and you probably hear a lot.

Please if you have that in mind... Discard it

I came legally with access to funds coming from Nigeria. When I no see jobs for three month I know watin I see despite the money weh I de get.


Without access to funds you can't survive.

A bread is 2 pounds or 1:50
A biscuit is 2 pound or 1 pounds
Garri 5 cup ia like 4 pounds

No one will dash u money even Nigerians here.
Please I repeat remove that thought.

Can you sleep outside under minus 5degree?
Do u know what it means?

Please please don't go that area please

If people do it count those that died in the process

See this guys statement I bolded

gaby:
In all you do, please, ensure to Jakpa the right way and not the way I did over 25 years ago with the same frustration and hardship brought upon us by our inept leaders.

isn't it funny that the same thing that pushed us enmasse to Jakpa over 2 decades ago is even gotten worse today?

Where is the hope, my people?

If you can Jakpa legit, make the move ASAP. The people you are looking up to solve the same issues caused by them have their wards away from Nigeria waiting to come back to continue from where their parents stopped, while the ones in Nigeria are strategically placed as place-holders waiting to step into their parents' positions.

I used to blame myself and my mates for the risks we took to find a way out of the dungeon, but our decisions keeps getting justified by the day. R.I.P to my mates who passed on in the course of our journeys. Nigeria is worse off, guys.



It is disgustingly a hopeless situation, I must confess.

AllenSpencer:


There are about 700k illegal immigrant in the UK and 10 million in the US. Are you saying all of them don’t own houses or have a job.

If you don’t know about somethings, don’t argue that it does not exist.

You will not wished your enemies to pass through what they have been through.
You are in Nigeria I guess so u can fantasis

How long will the little money u have sustain you? Or you think de dash money anywhere? How long can you survive before u will be lucky enough to be granted asylum

But please don't pray you end such way

Bassmetrics:


LoL, say what you're sure of. No skill, and I repeat no skill that you're good at in this 21© that will render you unemployed. It's not possible for anyone with value to be jobless even in Nigeria. If you have value to offer, even in Nairaland people will be looking for you😂

I don't mean you will be unemployed I mean jobs that guarantees faster response.
My guys have been applying for data analyst... Not a single response since last year.
Same with 3 of my colleagues.

Bassmetrics:


Whatever that works for you; digital or non-digital, let it be something individuals and businesses are looking for.

There are some stuff that gives u edge quicker.
You woundnt like to come n takes months to get a job.
The faster the better

Bassmetrics:


Get the message clearer.
Whatever works for you; it must not be Data Analytics.

Carpenters, bricklaying, plumbing, joinry etc welder
Nice jobs in high demand
You can't be unemployed with any of this but can with data analytics

AllenSpencer:



Okay.

Dont try it oh... Na cold u go find ur self.
There is what is called right to rent code.
Right to work code, national insurance number etc.
They use it to check mate illegals.



If you don't have it o tilo

Everywhere don thight now oh... Digital

AllenSpencer:



You are a JJC. Don’t say that statement outside.

You can't rent house with out having a residential permit. I am in UK and same thing applies to US, Germany etc. This western countries.


The first thing a landlord will ask you is your permit cos the tax people will show up.. Etc.
If your landlord is found letting his house out to non residential holder he will be fine or lose his property

AllenSpencer:


Do you know the count of illegals that have become successful across the world. It all depends on his spirit , quest and thirst for success.

Yes, it could be rough at the initial stage, but with focus and perseverance, he will find his balance.

At his age, he is open to all risk.

Dont try it in this 21st century oh... This is 2024 everything is digitalised.

Honestly non will rent house to you.. Do you know what that mean?
You can't work even shirt jobs non will give it to you.


Please don't try it. It's near death experience. Except u don't value life

being:

Tensa, over 25 yrs ago, Nigerians were in a terrible economic state with abacha as HoS. It was worse than now.. pple were being owed salaries... no end in sight..
But then it passed.. this will also pass @ HeadNigga.. i feel japa is still not necessary... finances are not thr only aspect of your life.. there is family, culture, weather etc..

In Nigeria we think about money moneu money.
If not insecurity aspects I will say if u earn and can afford the basic, have ur own accommodation then rest in Nigeria

tensazangetsu20:


I am not in Europe. I am in south America. Didn't spend up to ten million to move last year. Paid my whole tuition and everything. It will probably be like 20 million now Sha.

That's why I mentioned the best countries... In the world.

Which is American... Canada, USA.... Swt European countries

Unless you want to go Cambodia, China,etc

tensazangetsu20:


Well good luck to you guys. I am lucky I didn't spend all that much

Euro is 1700. No more form A
What are you saying

tensazangetsu20:


Nigerians limit themselves. These aren't the only countries to migrate to. A friend in Japan didn't even spend up to 5000 usd in total to migrate there. What of Spain. France isn't up to 29 million. Germany blocked account is 15 million. Plus all those places you mentioned, what happens after schooling?

Germany block account is €11,208 oya convert am
That's over 19 million naira or close to 20m


You never add other expenses

You can as well Japa to UK with less than 2000 pounds

AllenSpencer:


With his age, he can go legally or illegally. Time is on his side.

You can't rent an accommodation, can't get a job, can't access certain stuff.. You will be treated like a leper if you don't have ordinary national insurance number in UK.

Think twice the advice u give cos small time now him go cone here come complain how he took the wrong step

Bassmetrics:
My own be say: Anybody wey wan Japa should Japa with sense o, learn In-demand (digital) skills like Data Analytics or any one of your choice.
It will make your stay smooth.

Learn carpentry, bricklaying, plumbing, joinry... This are the hot skills forget those IT skills

bjdon:
What is your skill set? Do you have skills that would get you a good job in Europe or the US?
Are you looking to use the student route? If so do you have money for fees and money to maintain yourself?
Have you decided which country you want to migrate to?

The only advise I can give you is do your research VERY WELL. Japa is not for everybody. Some folks make a good success of it, others are still struggling many years later.

Honestly this is what am trying to point out.

tensazangetsu20:


UK isn't the only country in the world. There's other countries. 29 million ke.

Please mention let me know.... US, Canada, Germany, Australia, France, new Zealand.

List any other let's do the analysis

AllenSpencer:


Japa!

Don’t listen to anybody!

Don’t make the mistake of not.

Ask him if he is able to finance the cost. Cost of settling down etc.

One of my cousin has been disturbing me since.. He wants to Japa he wants to Japa. I gently put down the cost for him by the time our calculations exceeded 29:million he had dropped the idea


Japa Japa... Don't carry visiting visa to enter Europe else you go hear am

HeadNigga:
I am still young. Hot brains. I will make consultations on japa. God help me if it warrants having nothing to fall back on, fine. I will take my chances. There is no hope insight coz our fellow country men are not even ready to get this country working. Tribalism won't let them yet their rich tribesmen in power don't care about them.

There is hope...
To Japa you need a heart of a lion. There are chances that things won't go as planned and this involves millions of Naira . You need to be ready to do anything to beat the cold, winter to stand. Cold of - degree

The cost of settling down might be higher than the cost of Japa from Nigeria unless you got good work sponsorship.

Be prepared mentally here it's survival of the fittest

Ogeneigbo1:

Thank you.

To be fair to justwise, I think you are saying the same with him if my interpretation is correct.

He is coming indirect if you can read in between lines , but you are coming more direct.

I have read the first page of this thread like justwise advised,and I see where he is heading to.

I am still analysing the situation at hand.

But let me ask you. Judging by what is currently happening in UK, if I pay 80 to 90 % school fees, do you think I will break even, I used the word break even because,at last na money I dey find come UK.

I know why I said don't mind him... Let me reserve that for my self.

99% of us coming here na money we find come...
But of recent the job is no longer as it use to be. A lot of student hardly see jobs as most recruiter prefer full time worker.

I know what I am saying, if u doubt, download telegram n search your school or at least 4 schools you know about here in UK and go through their comments from October to January.... Focus on the job discussion.

That's why I said please hold at least 80/95% and have a backup plan to pay the rest. More also have 4 to 5 months rent at hand. Please

UK humble a lot that came with high expectations last September

Raylight2:


Where is her biological mother? You and her biological mother should train her. How did she know your current wife isn't her biological mother? Was she already understanding before you remarried? If it's that your current wife out of anger voiced it that she's not her mother and as a result maltreated her, then, you're both getting what you deserve. If your current wife had treated her as her own biological daughter, she would be more respectful to her. In all, one or both of you are at fault for revealing that information to her. You have to go back to the drawing board and treat/correct her in love. Make her feel she's part of the family. Don't let your wife prefer the other kids over her.

Wahala for who get pikin from multiple partners.

Look at his previous thread you will see u are not far from truth

Ogeneigbo1:
Thank you for this question.

I can manage to pay at least 60 % of the tuition fees if I get a direct masters degree. Then pay the remaining 40% as I settle down.

If no dependant... My brother let's be honest
how much is your remaining fees?
How does your school spread her installment?
How much is exchange rate today?

We the current student on ground will give you real time data you need.

Full school fees or at least 80/90% and you should have a backup plan on how to pay the rest if no job comes within the next 4 months.

Right now most companies hardly or don't employ students.. They don't use their ear to hear student

Let them do it 2 months self

Mrperfecto:
I will just be brief without writing too much.

We are based we have 4 children, my first child is 13 from my previous relationship, she has become very terrible, she doesn't listen to me or my wife. She tells her that she is not her biological mother and she cannot control her. She had threatened to call the police on my wife telling her if she touch her she will fight her back and call the police. She goes to school and closes at 3.45 her school is 10 mins walk from home, but she is always late for home.

She comes home around 6 sometimes 7pm , as I am writing now every friday she closes at 12.30 but she is still hasn't come back home yet.

I am on my way to work. I start at 6.30pm till 2.30am so I rarely get to see her and she only misbehaving when I am not around. So far we have seized her phone because we had found so many inappropriate messages exchanges between her and boys. We had also removed the TV from her room and her behaviour has gotten worse. She is behaving like she's possessed.

My wife and I are fed up. Even her siblings are tired of her. We want to send her back to Nigeria maybe in a boarding school until she is 18 in order to protect her younger ones. If we keep her and she continues with her terrible behaviour I may beat her badly and we may end up loosing all 4 children to the authorities.

Please what advice will you give to me concerning this issue?

Have gone through your previous post and saw that ur new wife don't love that girl.
Soo many complain from the new wife..

Someone said he will continue from where Buhari stopped and millions of Nigerians still voted for him

Voting Buhari during his first tebure was a mistake we understand but voing him second time and going ahead to vote for tinubu is what I don't understand

yarimo:
Foolish governor paying people to visit him

Enemy of the state spotted

And throw thousands if not millions of people out of job.

Outstandingmam:


Mr, I'm not a naive Nigerian. I know what obtains. I've been traveling outside Nigeria for vacations as a secondary school student before I thought of going for higher studies so spare me that patronizing tone.

My issue with you and your likes is your huge empathy deficit. I always wished to join my voice to the threads that are opened to warn about unbridled desire to just leave Nigeria but the penchant to tag us as haters prevented me. Imagine how you came swinging into my comment? I don't like Internet arguments and I deliberately avoid them

Nigerians believe they can do anything and it's just not true. This OP and others like him made errors which they shouldn't make. The urge to game the system is in most Nigerians because we hardly follow the rules. I'm a stickler for rules but will I throw my child away because he broke the rules?

He has made his mistakes, he is stewing in it now, why do you think you need to turn the knife? What benefit is it to you? Or to him? Depression is real. I'm only being my brother's keeper pls.

UK as a japa route don cast. That's the basic truth. If you don't have the funds, forget about it. Yesterday I learned that a guy staying in an estate close to ours sold his 3 bedroom fine house for 40m (ordinarily, 60m is too cheap for such) to go to the UK because his wife got care job. They're back to Lagos now hiding from everybody. I can't imagine being in the same shoes with that family but I'm sure they were warned but refused to hear.

The thread I put out there saved a lot who would have made a terrible mistake coming to UK. Preventing them from selling off their property at give away.
I know of someone who is well paid, wife well paid. Left his job, [b]sold his house half [/b]the price, sold his car, sold his wife car then came to UK last year. He is with me here . He hasn't seen a stable job. Job he saw only worked one month and off. Wife also searching for job.

So people should put a break... I mean Japa people. If you are going there to school and return then go

Outstandingmam:


Yeah it's you I was referring to.

I almost cried reading all the very harsh comments they threw your way on that thread. How can these folks be so heartless? Mistakes have been made and you've obviously learned your lesson which is why you came to warn people yet these sanctimonious folks still wanted to pile on your misery. I'm very happy to hear that you've emerged strong out of it. I hope you keep on soaring.

I wanted to come to UK too but my hubby blatantly refused sponsoring me there because in his words "UK education is simply a business with no human touch and it'll soon cast". I went elsewhere with my kids and my husband sponsoring us from Nigeria so I don't have to face the issues you guys are facing.

I wish the OP a resolution and I hope all intending japa folks will not always think everyone advising caution is a hater. I'm happy my husband refused to be swayed by the fanciful stories we were reading and watching online. Maybe I'd have been wallowing in depression too.

Actually most people don't really tell what they passed through here they only say things when they going has smoothen out and this has lead a lot to make terrible mistakes.
I wont advice anyone to come to UK now through education... I mean those coming through Japa.

People should put a break to it or look elsewhere.

Am happy you are doing well with the choices you have made

Outstandingmam:
What the oldies are doing to the OP is quite unfair. The guy only opened a thread to warn others not to fall into the trap. He isn't begging for money or whatever. It takes a lot for him to come out with his story and I think it's a service most should be grateful for.

The few times I come to this forum, I see a lot of people who try to warn others about the japa craze. They try to sound the alarm that not all is as it seems but they're tagged bad belle and enemies of progress who don't want others to get there or that they've failed at getting visas hence the hate. I've wanted to lend my voice to it but I don't have time or energy for Internet toxicity which is so rife on this forum.

You guys should pls give the guy a break. He didn't kill person. The UK that gives everyone Visa knows they need the money. They also know people will not have the money immediately otherwise, why not insist on full payment before they come? Of course they will lose customers that's why. You gave someone a repayment plan and you now change it in the middle of the game, haba!!

You 'established' japarians should chill pls. That's how when one poster called Funclub (or what's his name) opened a thread, using his real experience to ask guys to think twice about embarking on japa, they almost lynched him here.

OP, just try and hang in there. I pray for you to get a way out. I hope you break free soon.

You called my mention... Hello and good morning.

Justwise is that kind of person that can't render finanacial assistance to anyone around. There was no unprintable name he didn't called me. Am sure he don't pick any of his relative calls from where he is.


Finally I have gotten a job and things are smoothening and I have gotten used to the system.I wil give another thread after my schooling

To all hustlers who want to change the narrative... We will all be alright, have the thick skin and keep pushing.

Treadway:
I totally understand your experience. That is why I said to my own wife emphatically that I'm never gonna take the UK route unless she is ready to face the work palava and pressure, while I study😁😁😁 since na she japa dey pepper for body. Good you sha got a job. You have made the move already, so you just absolutely have to keep forging ahead.

I'm also considering relocation now, but spending that much for the UK? God forbid!

UK? Through sponsorship that legit.... Okay but through study? Forget it

amorprincesa:
Actually, it is somewhat difficult now. You see that Birmingham in England which is the Indian and Arab mini country, I won't advice my enemy to go there. Though some persons might be lucky but getting a student job there now eh?....

Please no one should have working for 20 hours to pay school fees in mind. Don't o! You might have high blood pressure due to worries.
Pay all of your fees before coming then the 20 hours can suffice for rent and groceries.

As per your attached image, school and hospital cleaners requires DBS. They even do interview sef😂😂😂 there is also training required if you are going to be measuring and mixing chemical cleaning agents. You have to be certified.

Overrated UK! Like someone said, if he sees who would return all his money spent on this UK Journey, he will go back home that same day.

This is what has been holding me, nothing more. Each time I remember the funds I will feel like crying.
Even where I am Indians are everywhere even Sri Lanka and lots of Asians. You hardly see Nigerians though.
But not all cleaning require DBS. Except school, hospital and care home... I believe if the cleaning are done in certain places other than this place you will not necessarily need standard or enhanced DBS.