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tegrianonigltd:
The Nigeria you want them to stay,

I am a data scientist, working with Google, add me on IG, or send me your WhatsApp, Mr Project eyan Wike lol, my big man friend lol let’s talk like big guns not ranting, for me as a Tech professional, Nigeria is not for me, I did my Bsc and Msc over here, so Nigeria is not for me, I want an enabling environment not what shithole you all stay And call it enjoyment Mr Project.

Let talk like big toys

Works with Google. It Professional


I left IT after two decades. Before Google blew, we saw its little beginnings. We were there


Abeg go rest. No wonder he's bluffing..using standards of working at Google in jugding Nigerian ecosystem


Do you know how hard it is for banks to give companies even 1 Million Naira loan?


What's my bloody business with your 4M peronth job. Levels dey higher than that realma

tegrianonigltd:
Mr project, Una best doctors and nurses are leaving the shithole on a steady. Nigeria is not what it use to be in the 80s and early 90s, 90s uK shut down Nigeria airways, Abacha shut down their own, e no fit happen now. We no get that kind pride, Everything no be money

Thrash. Na me steal your destiny ?

tegrianonigltd:
Your country people dey remove in thousands you dey cap cap cap, when last you treat malaria?? I haven’t in years upon years, when last you stay in apartment or house without Buglary, we do here no net no iron Buglary, why your leaders send their kids to be with us, they see it too, if they could stay they would but they need to loot Nigeria,

Our chairman the Project President of Nigeria, calm down, you get light 24/7 without solar or inverter, you drive on smooth roads when last??

You claim to be higher than me? You don’t even know me. Send me your WhatsApp no? Or add me on instagram, make we yarn on video like guys, so you can know me, really know me lol. Let see my chairman, no be to brag on this faceless app, send me your WhatsApp or IG.

It’s not about money inferiority complex man, WE NEED BASICS TO SURVIVE, not having money and still living like animals.

Most of the things they pray for in church and mosques are over here on the basic.

Who claimed higher with abroad bullshit. Nigher get lost with your repititions


Forming posh. Come setup a company in Nigeria na and see what madness feels like


Typing me.from.abroad and feels he has the authority to discuss on the Nigerian climate. Don't impose your Yankee ideologies on a society where business owners don't have access.to.the credit facilities businesses there have


Use your senses. It's world apart. It's not English they spend on business expenses and needs. Its.money


Spare.me.your cheap talk and bullshit

Asour:
I am NOT a smooth talker.

Employers like you are great (You grow trade).
I'm in no way diminishing your courage. You guys make things happen.
However, IT IS BECAUSE you can't do it alone Efficiently that you employ others (they too benefit from your job) and both parties smile home.

Quote me anywhere YOU started your business to make profit. NOT to employ employees.

I've been paying atleast 15 person's salaries since five years every month. Running into atleast a million a month

Raked my first ten m over ten years back


Currently managing a ten digits enterprise and engaging atleast 10 workforce in one enterprise while I manage another enterprise with 15 workforce


You're not in my league. When it comes to business setup, management, company running and execution. I'm your god

Jephyard:
Then if you can't run a company properly close the damed company and concentrate on other kind of trade where you don't have to emlpoy anyone. Wèrè dey disguise.

I thought you said you don't insult. Running mouth like leaked tap. Start your own company first. Pay 10-20 people salary let's see if you can handle it

Empty barrel. You wey no fit take care of woman satisfactorily dey criticize people leagues ahead of you


I spit on your existence

Asour:
You embrace no employee. Do it all yourself. Don't 'help' humanity.

Yawns. It's easier said. Create jobs and ploy people. Bear the burden of running costs, rising inflation, competitive market, low patronage. You'll understand that running a business isn't for smooth talkers

Jephyard:
I won't result to insult but how I wish you know what I stand for.

I resign from my work place in 2016 or 2017 can't really remember the year cos of condition that was not stated in my contract. I will state the company name for you to walk down there yourself to ask about me from the CEO (He is into politics now) if you want it to show I just don't open mouth anyhow (provide your mail i wi send it, the address and asked about me) Today the kind respect I earn just standing for what is in my contract or common sense at workplace no be small because I stood my ground.

I understand you lack self worth even if you understand what that even mean thats for another matter. You employed a staff who saw the accommodation in bad state decide to fix it even using her own money and then it made it known to the firm about it that they should fix a part of it twice and which they didn't and decided to sack her without being paid for the time being. For freaking 5 days before she blow the whistle. Abeg bros who wise between the two of us cos I want to know how do you lay someone off without paying her immediately. Please I want to learn cos if nah me own you money and I didn't pay you at stipulated time as at when due that your hand go dey type all over nairaland say I be fraud.

Yawns. Typing all your tedious soliloquies doesn't mean anything. You're one of those who think they're all that and are nothing. Absolutely nothing. Create your own company. Employ 10-20 person's. Pay salaries and bear the burden of the cost of running em enterprise, and you'll speak less brash. Adios

Jephyard:
Jesus is Lord! Look at people making excuse for the employer, no proper thinking and them call themselves learned people, no wonder they all lived in such condition how can they think well.

I doff my hat for that Lady that reject such condition even if she is living in a slum it no excuse for the company to provide such dirty accommodation for his/her employees. It is wrong in all shade. It dehumanizing to place someone in such condition and expect the person to do well in her workplace. What the employee should have done was to clean that place up. Now she has put it in-order with her own money will they pay her back? The company should be called out, it very bad even if some of us have accepted such conditions to meet end means that doesn't mean it right to stay in such condition.

Some of you have never lived with women's or take time to understand women personal hygiene. Most women don't share toilet and bathroom with more than one person who is not family or a partner. You are telling a female employee to share toilet and bathroom with six people, it almost close to impossible for any woman to accept that. Personal hygiene is key to work success. A healthy staff is a healthy firm/company.

I can't work in any work environment that don't provide clean and condusive environment, tht doesn't take safety serious at work. It will affect the work growth no matter how you put it. It will hamper on the staff quality to succeed thereby leading to low production output no matter how you put it.

When they say most Nigerian graduate are unemployable it because they don't know what to add to the company for it to grow even if they lives in slave conditions and how can you make input when you lives in slave conditions by the way. The employer just lost a gem that will add to the company, do you know how? Since she is the cook of the company she cares more about her personal hygiene and the hygiene of the staff/MD and how it will affect the quality of food to be served, a healthy meal means a healthy staff/MD then a happy firm/company.

Note: Nigeria has long way to go with the kind of response I am seeing on this forum it shows again we have no will power to make things right, we are anyhow people once money is involve we don't care. I now understand where someone with a job of 24 million per annum and his wife a Branch Manager to a bank will resign and sell his properties and leave this country for good, it is not about the pay it about the slowpoke who hate living a good life and keep repeating same old trick and expecting different result thereby keeping the sane and bright one in the same spot. We are not poor because there is no money we are poor because we have no self worth, we are too greedy and shameless lots in short no Justice. All the bright mind leaving to other countries who do you think will suffer for it? I guess you know the answer, make nah get out.

I can see you're not wise.


We're saying it's okay to reject an offer you feel substandard but not call-out. Use your senses


Why didn't she reject from the first day. If she's rejecting, calling out deems unecessary. She needs to just move on


Of course. Your kinds make it sound easy. I can't work this, I can't work that. Create a business if it's easy

Asour:
Sorry My laugh is because you're being condescending without realising it.

Any job you give someone BECAUSE you're helping him is an [essentially] useless job. AND the fellow knows it. Because Nigeria is a poor Country Most employers like you think a job is being helpful.

When you get a contract from a larger company are they helping you? See an employee as a vendor providing contractual service as a micro vendor and you'll get my point.

And no, I don't support the lady (because I don't have all facts) and I know both employees and employers ARE important. Equally so.

Oga. Then embrace the regular work ideology. Work from home. Periodt

donjahsy:
You must be an oppressor. So, because you employed someone then you have the right to indirectly torment them? That you are privileged to father a child does not give you any right to treat your own child badly without reaction from the environment. Mtcheew!

As I write, two Nairalanders are fully in charge of my company. Have foods that last a month and I'm not even with them


You're stvpid. Why did her father or brothers not rise to create a business if it were that easy

GboyegaD:
She is a chef and the nature of her job might not allow her work from home. That said, you are digressing from the point of discussion.

I'm done with you.

Asour:
If the employee is not providing you with value (Meaning you're not helping him — you need him) You should have done it on your own too.


Hahahaha.

What's with the laughter.


If such is the case as fixed as your argument. Why can't the employee work from home? After all it should just service for money

Asour:
That's not my point.

My point is that you don't Employ BEFORE starting to think of what your business would be & be paying salary.

You employ after deciding on the business AND you need people to execute specific functions for you. BIG difference.

All works improves mankind and humanity. That's my point. Anything else is misconstrued.

If owning and running a business were beans, everyone should own a business

Since you refuse to have wisdom, you may soon end up dead

Asour:
Hahahaha.

No one in the private sector 'goes out of there way to create jobs to help humanity '.
That's a 'convenient' truth which is technically a lie.

A job IS created (we are talking Private sector between 2 strangers) when 2 people enter into a contract for the supply of a mutually beneficial service.


Hahahaha.
....To help humanity.

All job opportunities is a contribution to humanity. Trust me. I'm a serial employer

GboyegaD:
You are the slow one here. You initially felt you could muscle up everyone with your point which indicated that you don't treat your staff any better.

If the job doesn't allow her work from home, she xant work from home. Still wondering why you are asking this question if you truly are not trying to deflect from the topic.

Oga. Differentiate between rejecting an offer and accepting an offer you hate

Also. At her age, she should have a home. A decent one to work from.


Stay on this ponits.

Elvis778:
Good day, slowpoke

You will remain in stagnancy. Continue to perpetuate bullshiit. Animal


Post pictures of your own house let's see if it's any better

Buchman1:
The warped sense of reasoning here is so appalling and heart wrenching.

That a lady who was expecting a decent accomodation as part of the contract of a job met with such a shitty apartment is disgraceful. If an employee can be treated this bad an entry level, then worse is more to come!
To y'all yapping about the girl not been humble, decency has eluded you.

Why can't she reject the offer and go home ?

Elvis778:
And I really doubt u had an education at all, she already signed the contract and worked for a month, irrespective of the working condition, now u lay her off cuz she won't run delivery right? After a month, kindly pay her for that one month and let her go, quite reasoning like a re+ard

Good day. Irredeemable fool

Dirty pillow case and bed sheets. You're the kinds that leave your sheets unwashed and only wash them once in a decade. Bacteria from sweaty sheets is interacting with your skins surface causing this reaction

Elvis778:
U guys signed a contract right? Yes or no?
Did she call the manager out before complaining twice about the working condition?
Ok, u laid her off after the first month cuz she doesn't want to run delivery, and still refuse to pay her? what right do you have to attack her for calling the manager out?

Your education is a waste. Tell people like her to turn down the offer and go home. Not call people out. They owe her nothing. You're not seeing her useless that she doesn't have a house to begin with. If she had a decent house and decent earning. She'll work from home. You're a blind nitwit

GboyegaD:
Oga, I have tasted both sides of life and training kids through toughness doesn't mean they shouldn't know their right. Please, stop equating suffering with training kids to be content.

Oga. Stop the deflection. Why couldn't she work from.home. Is a company supposed to house a worker in the first place?


You're slow

Elvis778:
I don't give 2 bleeps, I didn't even read past the 2 CVs,if you like, be Dangote himself, I will still spell it out clearly, reasonable people, will never settle for This trash u sugarcoat as employment...The fact that u as a self acclaimed rich man can eat food prepared by a chef using such rest room says alot about your personal hygiene...spits

Like I stated, besides emotional rant, can you postulate intelligent discussions. Differentiate between rejection of offer and accepting and then nagging.

Use your senses. She wasn't forced at gun point to accept the job and then turn around to call out the employer

Bionica:
And who dear Sir is the arbiter of 'decency and conducive'?

No wonder the massive attempt to relocate. You have been given employment and it comes with accomodation. Yes, the accomodation could be made better but then by who?

In her shoes I would turn around that place and it will transform in ways even the owner will be mesmerized.

Just an aside to buttress this point, a chef of Efik extraction was employed by a 'big man' in Ikoyi and given a one room apartment as her residence with a salary of 35k monthly.

Before she moved into that premisses it was a terrible place, pathways overgrown with weeds, terrible paintwork and of course a very untidy environment.

Fast forward to just two months when I had reason to visit the place again, the entire place had been completely transformed. It was an amazing sight to behold.

I wasn't therefore surprised to find out later in the year that she had been promoted to head of household with a salary of 100k. Less than one year.

We really need to see some of these obstacles as opportunities rather than complain at every juncture.

God bless your wisdom

GboyegaD:
If you own your company then I put it to you yrhat you don't treat your staff right otherwise, you wouldn't have been ranting the way you did over her comment.

You know the accommodation isn't decent enough as you admitted she could Behind it up. Why would an employer prefer an employee using her paid salary to improve his property?

Put the spot light on yourself. You're the one with the loud mouth. Have you ever learnt what entry level in life is ?


If you were forthright you would have supported the idea of the employee working from home


Let's see if transportation cost of 120k per month and an apartment of 300k per month on the island totalling 420k per month can be managed with her finances


You people type fast without thinking deep


I will train my kids thru this toughness. Oga. If you want the glory, you must go thru the process.

Reference:
The place speaks a lot about the company and the folks that run it.
Details do matter.
I just hope the CEO is aware of the surroundings his food will be coming from.
Human capital in Africa is the least valued.

Behind the scenes of over 60% of Nigerian companies is this way. I say this as a fact. From Guineas to Flour Mills, to Cadbury all have back room scenes like this and even worse

Elvis778:
I no get your time, slave master/slavery advocate, suite Ur self, people with my mentality will never settle for such, I repeat, if you need maids, go to the village, dem plenty, a qualified chef will never settle for this, unless the pay is really worth it.....so park well

And to be clear, I no dey trenches, maybe your generation dey, me I am not

I've never made a CV in my entire life. If one is to brag, it should be me. You know nothing about enterprise building. When you hear your almighty Elon Musk says he sleeps in the factory, you think where he sleeps is close to this apartment


Una no dey use una small brain. Little flashes here una go dey distracted. You managed to wiggle your way out with emotional clap back without tangible intelligent discussion


I repeat what I asked you. Don't you know the difference between rejecting an offer and accepting and calling out the other party. I'm sure if you had senses you'd understand the rationale of the situation. Obviously, you don't


Even God left his Almighty abode. Came down to formless void and started small. And your kinds with your grandeur want to start building from the top. Well done to your kinds. Last last na roaming about from rejecting opportunities over and over e una destiny. Na so your kinds be. Even when you should be at 1000, you remain at level 50 because of your delusional expectations

tegrianonigltd:
You can’t build the fantasy world bro, never, if you like use inverter, solar everywhere, you can’t, you can’t build the good roads, basic amenities, dust and dirt free environment, closed gutters, because even your president go to chill.. Nigeria is blessed, na leaders we no get, you can’t build the fantasy, I can pick up my passport, buy ticket and fly anywhere, unlike when you go arrange documents like who Dey find work go embassy, you can’t build the peace of mind.

No place is perfect no one is perfect either, but some basic of life needed to function.

You can’t build the fantasy world where the rich and poor gap no too dey. You can’t.

It’s not about money, or godfather, if Lagos get 80percent world class road and steady light, I go relocate to Nigeria.

Forget your money, no be money. Inferiority complex dey worry you

Inferiority complex coming from the person throwing abroad from thin air all over the place.


If I wasn't higher than you in all ramifications, you could have used your abroad thingey to bully me. Woe betide your going abroad there.

On top what. See this slug. On whatever level in life do you think you can compete with me. You no dey my level with your abroad I swear down. Not with a IQ of over 150, you don't come close. Nitwit

Elvis778:
If you are the employer she's talking about, maybe go back in time and buy slaves instead??
U guys fucking signed a contract, showing that accomodation is available, she came, and met the room in that shape, she complained to have the floor fixed, and u ignored, u wanted to make her run under the sun for delivery, something that wasn't stated in the contract and probably no extra pay for that, ok, u finally lay her off, but refuse to pay her......she had to wait for 5 fucking days, are u mad? U think everyone can take Ur shit? Not all Nigerians are willing to be slaves, if you are looking for maids, go to the village and get one, e no hard, she fit no even collect salary....if you want standard labour, be ready to pay for it....she can't afford an apartment on the island no mean say make u treat am like trash, she has the right to demand for a good working condition....

Lazy employy looking for people to pick them from the trenches. Your sense of reasoning didn't permit you to understand there's something called rejection of offer over calling a company out

I know you can never set any project up in your entire life, so you won't understand how it feels. Eternal employee

tegrianonigltd:
Mr Rich man, abroad is not richer, not let inferiority complex finish you my brother, lol, na the way and system of life they make people come, the basics of life, train, good environment, good roads, steady power supply, availability of things to do, you can achieve your goals faster, good medical care, among others,

It’s not always about money, money money money, all Una know na money money money, Na why success na money for Nigeria.

Enjoy your 100m project, enjoy your inferiority complex Mr Garden Is Green lol, successfully made man. I greet you Hahahaha Otunba

I've had steady light in close to seven years. Your fantasy world is way I buult here, starting from scratch. Ote

Sorry you're hurt because I'm not broke. Fulfilling your delusional reasoning that you were better. Please go and sit down. You know nothing about the court ry you talk off

Do you know how hard not hard , impossible it is for businesses here to get loans. Inflation and cost of running business. Running mouth like leaked pipe

AkuOlisa:
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Most of this New generation job seekers are not willing to sacrifice their short term comfort for lifetime experience and elevation.

And they remain in the same spot for years. Never improving. I interview and work with atleast 100 youths every year. So I know their lazy culture and behavior

tegrianonigltd:
The greatest value one can put on ones self is to start a business not seek employment opportunities.

Abroad hasn't improve your cognitive prowess one single bit.

When you state accommodations in the offer, make it worthwhile, it’s an entitlement, you listed it in the offer, it’s not a bonus, it is a bonus is she asked for it and they offered, but the employer offered in the job offer, so rest. Read well, companies hardly give housing, but if it is stated in the offer, then make it worthwhile, you are not employing an animal, the uK own, you can complain to the company about what you want, PUT VALUE ON YOURSELF, raise your self confidence, you are the prize. When you know your worth, they need you as much as you need them especially if you are highly skilled.

That's where you're stvpid. Did you ever learn the difference between rejecting an offer and calling out people because they don't meet your lofty standards. Can she rent a single room apartment on the island. Can you there rent a single room on the island.

Since she's a big girl like you, she could have rejected the offer, rented a room and go to work from home na.

Empty barrel