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Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 3:21pm On Mar 13, 2020
Ramsak1:
lol..E gbami fa
were you there when Allah created his creations
xoo..how many days did he used oo
Abi what is this one saying bayii
lol the guy is funny just running helter skelter. I have been asking him questions he hasn't answered any. The only one he managed to answer he didn't even answer correctly. He has gone to look for a verse to malign again. He has asked more than 5 questions today and not answers any
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 3:12pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
enough said... Bring up the contradictions

have been challenging you now? Bring just one. In revelation alone I can bring out more than 10 contradictions.

Genesis 1 vs 3 said: let there be light how can there be light without the sun? I believe you are a student of science.

Furthermore genesis 1 vs 13 said: God said let there be fruits and seeds: we all know photosynthesis is responsibility for plant growth jow can seeds grow without the sun.

Furthermore the bible said the earth was created before the sun. We all know the sun is like a magnet pulling the earth as a result of this pull making the earth stable. As a result of the magnetic pull the earth revolves around the sun.

Again the bible said God created two lights the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. As a student of science you will agree with me that moon does not have it's own light. The moon light is a reflected light. As Allah mentioned in the Quran surah 25 vs 61 that the sun is a burning lamp and the moons light is a luminous light


We all know the earth can't be in place without the sun.

I can point out more should I go on? That means you have not been following my post. I have posted this earlier. I was arguing with one other brother before you showed up
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 3:06pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Jesus was baptised as a confirmation that He's the Son of God...

Matthew 3:17
lol brother so what about those who are been baptized today? Are they son of God too? Mathew 3vs 17 said and a voice came from heaven saying this is my son. I am not talking of a voice I am talking about the words of jesus himself. Shebi you are using the KJV of the bible. Words of jesus are the ones in red letter. Infact jesus (pbuh) himself said when John wanted to baptise him thatMatthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. That was when John asked him why he wanted to be baptized. This is what you are suppose to give me as an answer you are quoting 3 vs 17

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite

And today Christian believes that baptism is a sign of cleansing sin. You are telling me now that it is a sign of been son of God.

I challenge you quote me one verse where jesus himself said I am God or worship me.

Ans I believed I asked you two questions what about the Luke question.
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 3:02pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Sorry, I do understand the games of Muslims of "can't you read" or "you don't understand Arabic" and "you are taking it out of context" they are not new to me.
you are the one taking it far. You can see a question mark at the end of the question before the prophet answered. I know you know your punctuation well. The question was posed to the prophet because the believe the water was unclean and he replied that the water is clean
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 2:56pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Hahaha... stop trying to run faster than your shadow.

In the case of Luke 18, did said you should make more clearly, so can understand the point you're driving at,,, since we are talking about contradictions.

Asked a question, after I must have answered you, I will also asked you mine.

Remember, we are talking about contradictions.

Don't be in hurry, nobody is running, we are all here!

we are talking about contradictions, we never started with contradictions like I said you quoted an hadith and a verse in the Quran and I replied why are you dodging my questions. You ask me about a particular surah I told you to read the context and you are still relating to that particular verse. Why cant you start from the first verse if you are so sure of yourself. I challenge you

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Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 2:54pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Sorry, our argument on Sura 40:55 has nothing to do with verse 1-55 or 60.

We are talking about Sura 40:55
Allah SWT said:

فَاصْبِرْ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنۢبِكَ وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ بِالْعَشِىِّ وَالْإِبْكٰرِ
"So be patient, [O Muhammad]. Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth. And ask forgiveness for your sin and exalt [Allah] with praise of your Lord in the evening and the morning."
(QS. Ghafir 40: Verse 55)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

The above Quranic verse says, Muhammad should ask for forgiveness for his SIN.

Not the people, but his own sin.


lol you are just turning around in circles. Brother you haven't still answered my question. Not even an attempt WHY WAS JESUS BAPTIZED AND WHY DID JESUS SAY IN LUKE THAT HE IS NOT GOOD THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOOD. WHICH IS GOD IN HEAVEN
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 2:50pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
I'm still waiting for your response.
Challenge me base on every Quranic and Hadith I posted about your Prophet.

Give us an example of his act we must follow with Quranic verses or Hadith to support your claims.

Sunan an-Nasa'i book 2: Hadith No2
Your prophet had ablution from a well with dead dogs bodies, menstrual rags and other dirty things thrown into. (Can you imagine how stinky that water will be?)

Can you follow your Prophet to do that?

I'm still waiting on what we would do after we repent and follow your Prophet.
brother I give up on your matter. Clear your mind first so that you wont get angry. Cant you read?


The hadiths are sayings and teachings of the prophet. In this context prophet Muhammed (pbuh) had an ablution from a well. So is companions ASSUMED the water was unclean. So he clarified himself telling them the water is clean.

Read between the lines it starts with IT is said that is someone is insinuating that the water is impure Then the prophet clarified that the water is pure

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Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 2:02pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Please, kindly copy and paste the the question you answered me base on Sura 40:55.

Then, we can move-on on whatever questions you may have.

Thanks.
how can I copy and paste when you have the whole of Quran with you. When you want to malign you removed a context and quote. Now when it comes to explanation you asking me to paste. Brother you are funny.

When I quoted Luke I explained right from the beginning of the context I didn't just pick a verse . I did that all by myself. I quoted when the man came to jesus and his reply I think you should do the same start from surah 40vs 1 to the same verse 55 and even to 60
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 1:59pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Brother, you more like deviating from what we should be talking about.

"We should be talking about contradictions"

Every human being born of a man and a woman is sinner, and none is good.

If we are to dig deeper, Your will agree with me only Christ Jesus is Holy based on Quran Sura 19.

Though I don't understand what you are trying to bring up based on Luke 18.

You can still make it more clear.
Allah SWT said:

اللَّهُ الَّذِى خَلَقَ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِى سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوٰى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ  ۖ مَا لَكُمْ مِّنْ دُونِهِۦ مِنْ وَلِىٍّ وَلَا شَفِيعٍ  ۚ أَفَلَا تَتَذَكَّرُونَ
"It is Allah who created the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them in six days; then He established Himself above the Throne. You have not besides Him any protector or any intercessor; so will you not be reminded?"
(QS. As-Sajda 32: Verse 4)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

My first contradictions from the Quran is Sura 32:4.

How many days did Allah create the world?

Allah said six days, but it was not actually six days.
typical you I was discussing contradictions with the other brother if I can remember you quoted a verse and an hadith regarding war I answered your questions correctly. Why are you avoiding my questions? I asked why was jesus baptized you didn't answer I quoted Luke you never gave any explanation and you want me to keep answering your questions. Clarify what is on ground first before we can move on
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 1:57pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Please, kindly copy and paste the the question you answered me base on Sura 40:55.

Then, we can move-on on whatever questions you may have.

Thanks.
lol brother sorry I went for prayer. But I believe we are having a dialogue. You haven't answered any of my questions o. Any not even one you are making it one sided
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 1:02pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
You have actually not answered.

Kindly explain to me Sura 40:55
That's all I need.

Allah SWT said:

فَاصْبِرْ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنۢبِكَ وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ بِالْعَشِىِّ وَالْإِبْكٰرِ
"So be patient, [O Muhammad]. Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth. And ask forgiveness for your sin and exalt [Allah] with praise of your Lord in the evening and the morning."
(QS. Ghafir 40: Verse 55)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

You not even make an attempt to answer...
brother I have answered your question over and over again. I told you to read the context of the surah. Allah was speaking to the unbelievers you are quoting out of context. How do you want me to explain more than this. I said in the previous verse the unbelievers refused to listen to Muhammed, so Allah warns them that they should repent for there comes a day when repentance will not be accepted. They comes this verse which said prophet should be patient. But if they repent verily Allah is merciful he would forgive.

You are the one beating around the Bush the verses before these ones are there for you to read.


And may I ask you why was jesus(Pbuh) baptized, I thought he is sinless what's the point of washing a cloth that is neat already and I pose a question in my former answer also. Why did jesus say why call me good? Does he mean he is bad? I am quoting from your scripture .
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 12:40pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Thanks for response.
Explain Sura 40:55 to me.

Allah SWT said:

فَاصْبِرْ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنۢبِكَ وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ بِالْعَشِىِّ وَالْإِبْكٰرِ
"So be patient, [O Muhammad]. Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth. And ask forgiveness for your sin and exalt [Allah] with praise of your Lord in the evening and the morning."
(QS. Ghafir 40: Verse 55)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com
Luke 18:18-20 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me GOOD? none is good, save one, that is, God.
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

I am a student of comparative religion and I read with context. When the ruler call jesus(pbuh) Good master. And he said why call me Good? Does he mean is bad? Absolutely No. To understand the meaning of scriptures you need to read between the lines. I didn't just pick up a verse because I read the whole context.

And jesus replied him there is only one Good and that is God in heaven. And if you want to enter eternal life obey the commandments.

Then the next verse he pointed out the commandments : thou shall not steal, honour your father and mother, no adultery, etc
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 12:35pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Thanks for response.
Explain Sura 40:55 to me.

Allah SWT said:

فَاصْبِرْ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنۢبِكَ وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ بِالْعَشِىِّ وَالْإِبْكٰرِ
"So be patient, [O Muhammad]. Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth. And ask forgiveness for your sin and exalt [Allah] with praise of your Lord in the evening and the morning."
(QS. Ghafir 40: Verse 55)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com
lol brother I have answered now read the context. Read 3 verses before. So be patient oh Muhammed. 3 verses before Allah was talking about unbelievers that doesn't want to repent. He them gave moses as an example I'm the next verse. Then he said he should be patient for the word of God is true.

But if they come to terms and ask for forgiveness verily, the should ask for forgiveness of sin and praise Allah in the day and night.

In the next verse after that Allah talked about those who will argue. He is talking to the unbelievers. That's why I said read the context start from the first verse
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 12:24pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
I am taking up the challenge...

I will tell you that the Holy Bible has Zero Contradictions.

But rather, I will give you contradictions from the Quran.

Remember, Your god said in Sura 4:82
Allah SWT said:

أَفَلَا يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْءَانَ  ۚ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِنْدِ غَيْرِ اللَّهِ لَوَجَدُوا فِيهِ اخْتِلٰفًا كَثِيرًا
"Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 82)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

My question to you, if we find contradictions from the Quran, what will you do?

Remember, the true God can't contradict Himself.

I will also answer any questions you have from the Holy Bible.
I so much love you brother. That's a challenge now. Allah said that don't you ponder or reflect upon the Quran? Had it been from any other person apart from Allah there would have been contradictions. The Almighty is challenging you here. What you have to do is accept the challenge and bring out a contradiction.


I have been challenging you now? Bring just one. In revelation alone I can bring out more than 10 contradictions.

Genesis 1 vs 3 said: let there be light how can there be light without the sun? I believe you are a student of science.

Furthermore genesis 1 vs 13 said: God said let there be fruits and seeds: we all know photosynthesis is responsibility for plant growth jow can seeds grow without the sun.

Furthermore the bible said the earth was created before the sun. We all know the sun is like a magnet pulling the earth as a result of this pull making the earth stable. As a result of the magnetic pull the earth revolves around the sun.

Again the bible said God created two lights the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. As a student of science you will agree with me that moon does not have it's own light. The moon light is a reflected light. As Allah mentioned in the Quran surah 25 vs 61 that the sun is a burning lamp and the moons light is a luminous light


We all know the earth can't be in place without the sun.

I can point out more should I go on?
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 12:18pm On Mar 13, 2020
Meedon:
Blasphemy against the Holy Prophet



The Banu al Mustaliq, allied to the Quraish of Mecca, were the subject to an attack by Muhammad in the month of Sha'ban of the year 626 (5 AH).[1] Muhammad had received news that the tribe was gathering together against the Muslims under the leadership of al-Harith ibn Abi Dirar. The Muslim force met the Banu Mustaliq in battle at a watering place called al-Muraysi‘ and defeated them soundly, taking the Mustaliq chief, al-Harith and others captive.

You didn't even know what the banu al mustaliq where planning you are just quoting out of context again. They wanted to attack the prophet and the muslims. So if you heard someone wants to attack you you wont defend yourself and be looking.

He heard that they were already planning attack to kill muslims so he attacked before they did. Again learn to read the whole context don't just pick out a verse
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 12:14pm On Mar 13, 2020
Akpan107:
Did you just say, "Repent and follow Muhammad"?

How can a sinner repent only to follow another sinner?

Sunan an-Nasa'i book
36 Hadith No 21

Muhammad your Prophet had sex with a lady that is not his wife.

Sura 40:55
Your prophet was told to asked for forgiveness for his SIN

Sura 48:2 and Sura 47:19 also made such references of asking for forgiveness.

Your prophet made an attack on a settlement called "Bani al mustaliq"

He killed the men of that area and took the Women and Children of his victims.

What example exactly of your Prophet do you want us to follow?

you are quoting out of context read 3 verses before that. Allah was talking to Mohammed regarding the unbelievers. Which said 3 verses before that the people should leave idol worship. It further says on the day of judgement there won't be more forgiveness as regards those who worship idols. Them come the next verse that says they should ask for forgiveness.

Read context when reading Quran it is very important
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 12:04pm On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:


Lol, really? Just listen to yourself na? So this is your reason for discrediting the Bible?
These are not the words of a thinker.
I have read the bible. And i can point out hundred of contradictions from it. I have been challenging You but you have not been accepting my challenge. To proof to me that Quran is wrong point out a single verse that contradicts. Just ONE.


Can God contradict himself? Can he?
So how do you believe in a book that have gotten many contradictions
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 11:55am On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:


How many wives did Mohammed have?

Jesus said a man should have one wife. Is Mohammed greater than Jesus to trespass the words of Jesus? Mohammed also permitted his disciples to do likewise.

Jesus never said he is God because he came to honor the Father not himself. Rather he said I am the Son of God. John 9:35-37, John 19:7

Really? Stop quoting the apostles because they strongly believed Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God. There is an army of texts they've written in solidarity to the Sonship of Jesus.
Moreover, in that text you quoted, the disciples were telling them that Jesus had risen from the dead and demanded that the people accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.
These were the same people that crucified Jesus Christ. They did accept Jesus. (5000 people).
Muhammed has 4 wives. Quote me where jesus said you should marry one wife. I challenge YOU. I am quoting your scripture for you to proof to you that you are wrong.what you have to do to proof to me that I am am wrong is to point out one verse of the Quran that contradicts itself.


And you said jesus(pbuh) said he is the son of God. According to the language of the bible I agree with you. Brother do you know in the bible that Abraham was the son of God, moses was son of God, David was son of God. Bible has got son by the tongues.

Infact if you read Roman's chapter 8 verse 14 it says all those who are lead by the spirit of God are son of God.

I can see you are starting to get angry, we are having a dialogue ain't you having fun? Where did I say jesus was greater than Muhammed or vice versa. I believe in both. But I believe prophet Muhammed is the last and final messenger.

You haven't still quoted me one verse where he said he is God or we should worship him just ONE. Shebi you have read the bible
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 11:45am On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:


I don't know what a quobam is.

[The Highlighted] You are living in a big delusion.
Perhaps you don't even know the definition of "Miracle".

That Quran that plagiarized from Judaism (Old testament) and the Gospels (New testament).
If we only had the Quran, we would never know 90% of the accomplishments of Moses, the prophets and Jesus Christ.
Such a PLAGIARIZER that fake prophet was.
brother where does it plagiarized. Brother you are funny. If they are talking about plagiarism it should be the bible. Do you know in the complete bible the word "bible" does not exist?.

Bible is derived from a Greek word biblus which means A book of books. And even the scholars of christianity attested to it that the bible has many authors.. even the new testament was written 70 years after jesus christ (pbuh) left.

These ain't my words these are the words of your scholars.
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 11:41am On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:


I don't know what a quobam is.

[The Highlighted] You are living in a big delusion.
Perhaps you don't even know the definition of "Miracle".

That Quran that plagiarized from Judaism (Old testament) and the Gospels (New testament).
If we only had the Quran, we would never know 90% of the accomplishments of Moses, the prophets and Jesus Christ.
Such a PLAGIARIZER that fake prophet was.
quobam is an artist a blind one and he is a very Good Christian. A believer
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 11:40am On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:


How can you believe a prophet who did no miracles. But rather slept with many women and little girl and looted many homes?
This Jesus and his apostles did not.

By their fruits you shall know them.

The Jews actually belived Jesus is a prophet.

Matthew 16:13 "13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say yes that I am?
brother you need to understand something. You said he did no miracles but I have given you a living miracle he brought from Allah. Miracles are not done by men they are done by God.

Prophet Muhammed (saw) brought a living miracle you are witnessing the Glorious Quran. The miracle jesus did in the bible and Quran where done by God. I challenge you to quote me one verse of the Quran where prophet Muhammed (pbuh) slept with plenty women.

According to the bible solom (pbuh) has 700 wives and 300 concubine. According to the bible Noah(pbuh) was a drunkard, according to the bible lot(pbuh) slept with is own daughters. Ain't they prophet of God? How dear you attribute such things to the messengers of Allah (swt).

Infact if you read the complete bible there is no where jesus(pbuh) said I am God or worship me. Point me a single verse if you know your bible well.

Infact if you read your bible in the book of acts chapter 2 vs 22 says;Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know.
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 11:18am On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:



Yes my Pastor prayed in the name of Jesus and the cripple started walking.

You believe Jesus did great miracles. So did the Jews who crucified him for claiming to be the only Begotten Son of God.
yes I believed jesus(pbuh) did miracles but with the permission of God. I am not a jew I am a Muslim. And the Quran is very clear about his crucifixion. Allah said in the Glorious Quran: In suratul Nisa chapter 4 verse 157: They killed him not neither was he crucified, it was only made to appear so.

The Jews didn't believe in christ, so when he did miracles in God's name they said he was an imposter, that he was a fake christ.

We muslims believe in him. Infact you are not a Muslim if you do not believe in jesus and his miracles
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 11:09am On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:



Yes my Pastor prayed in the name of Jesus and the cripple started walking.

You believe Jesus did great miracles. So did the Jews who crucified him for closing to be the Son of God.
I asked you a simple question why hasn't quobams been healed. You never gave me an answer?

Secondly you are talking about miracles should I tell you the greatest living miracle up to this moment? A living miracle you yourself can testify to? THE Glorious Quran.

No religion scripture, I repeat no religion scripture has remained in it's pure form for as long as 1400 years up till this moment

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Islam for Muslims / Re: What Increases And Lessens Iman (piety)? by Gartol(m): 11:02am On Mar 13, 2020
mrZENographer:


What proof do you have?

My proof to you is my testimony. Jesus heals the blind, cripple, deaf/dumb, HIV, madness, cancer, diabetes, barrenness, hernia, ulcer, hunchback etc in the Lord's Chosen Ministry.

He healed a crippled muslim beggar I carried to my church who had been cripple from birth. (21 years old). He healed him.

What is your testimony and proof that you serve the living God?
I believe in jesus (pbuh), I believe he healed the leper, he gave life to the dead and he healed the sick people with Allahs permission. I believe he was born miraculously and I believe he will come back during the end times too.

Lol you said someone healed a cripple begger, what happened to quobams he has been blind from birth or is he not a believer?
Science/Technology / Re: 170-Million-Year-Old Stegosaurus Dinosaur Footprints On UK Island Discovered by Gartol(m): 6:58pm On Mar 12, 2020
gypsey:
Precisely my point, but i still doubt some religious believes esspecially when they are unexplained. you would find also that believes or religion is relative. i can choose to believe in or worship a tree in front of my house or my shoes grin as long as i am convinced within me that the tree or my shoes are my God.

In India some people believes that cows are their Gods and they worship those cows. are we then going to conclude that they are stupid? or that they are worshipping the wrong God?
yeah bro I understand your point. We cannot always have answer to all things. You might doubt some religious beliefs because to you they might not seem logical.

As for a scientist they don't believe in what they can't see or feel. But been a student of science and also a believer in God I have read my scripture and concluded that God exist.

There are things God talked about in the scriptures which science discoverd maybe 50 or 100 years back. So been a logical person I am like if these things are mentioned in my scripture even before it was discovered by science my logic say InshAllah the other things I cant see or feel will be correct as well.


And you talk about people worshiping cows in India. Like I said I am not here to discriminate anybody. But first of all we all need to get the concept of God. According to oxford dictionary God means a supernatural being that creates the universe and deserves to be worshipped.

It depends on thier view about God maybe they have another meaning to it. Or they have some fate tied to it. In Islam the best definition of God is given In suratul 112 which says "say he is God one and only, God the absolute and eternal, he beget not his he begotten, and thier is no other like him.

So according to this definition I worship one God that does not look like anything else, I know he is not of someone and he does not have a child, and he is one. I don't know much about India but I believe those that worship cows are mainly Hindu.

In Hindu many Hindu believe they are part of God and the whole of humanity is God as a whole. They believe every life is sacred including that of animals. So most of them worship that animal which is sacred(cow) according to thier believe.

As a believer we all need to get the concept of God before worshiping him so that we won't be lead astray
Sports / Re: Coronavirus: Three Leicester City Players In Isolation After Showing Symptoms by Gartol(m): 3:50pm On Mar 12, 2020
seunak2016:
all those rich people in the world should just donate money for procurement of drug for this thing called corona...
most times cures for viruses ain't found. They just find cures that slow down the effects in the human body system. And again we don't even know the source yet so it would be difficult finding the cure just like that.

Just like when you are bitten by a snake,you will do the doctors a whole lots of favour by telling them which kind of snake bit you.

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Sports / Re: UEFA consider Champions League and Europa League suspension by Gartol(m): 3:39pm On Mar 12, 2020
collins88:
To God Almighty... Please help us and forgive us of our wrong doings,for we don't knows what we are doing, please grant us your Children peace in our heart, joy in our soul and a change spirit, so things don't fall apart. Please grant to us your Children the wisdom and understanding to discover a cure for this unseen illness knows as Covid-19, because is a treat to mankind and everything we stand for. As we speak some are dying of it and other of various diseases which we are yet to discover a cure for. Please don't turn your face against us. We need you now more than ever... Thank you God Almighty for you'll do it again... Amen...
as you pray to God, we humans should also be careful with the way we deal with things and we should be careful how we handle things.

We don't know how this coronavirus originated because there have been several theories, some say it was as a result of wild animal delicacies, some say it was as a result of lab experiment gone wrong and some say it was a failed experiment.

All I know is whatever caused it there is a higher percentage that it is mostly human error. God no go come down from heaven to help us. That's why he gave us a brain and instructions to follow
Science/Technology / Re: 170-Million-Year-Old Stegosaurus Dinosaur Footprints On UK Island Discovered by Gartol(m): 3:32pm On Mar 12, 2020
WILLuKPquiet:


Hhhhm!

OK o.

Its the years mentioned at times that makes all these news look like lies. 160 million years , 2 billion years.


One day truth go show face sha.
lol baba I understand. They ain't saying they are accurate with the age. Radioactive dating method is not actually an 100% method of knowing the age of things but it is the most reliable and the closest to been perfect.

But believe me these results have really been the key that help us understand much more about our planet. These findings ain't just for history sake it makes us understand our planet much better and how we can adapt better.
Science/Technology / Re: 170-Million-Year-Old Stegosaurus Dinosaur Footprints On UK Island Discovered by Gartol(m): 3:04pm On Mar 12, 2020
WILLuKPquiet:


I be wan type same thing.

The whites can lie ehn!

Atheists won't challenge them, they are zombies.

Na to antagonise the Bible even when science confirms its accounts.

I foresee them coming like a swam of angry bees to bite.

Make I Dodge them

grin
baba no be fallacy, it's real. Let's leave dinosaurs there are certain animals that got extinct just thousands of years ago like the saber toothed tigers and mammoths.

The saber toothed tigers were hunted down by the early humans and the mammoths were hunted down to extinction mainly because of thier tusks. ( thier tusks are bigger than elephants)

There were a level of dozen extinct events before the dinosaurs had theirs. Though the recent extinction we face now is not something nature relates it is mainly as a result of human poaching.
Science/Technology / Re: 170-Million-Year-Old Stegosaurus Dinosaur Footprints On UK Island Discovered by Gartol(m): 2:50pm On Mar 12, 2020
gypsey:
The main problem with Africa is religion, Africa is still stuck in unproven religious quotes. How can a continent where almost everyone who lives in them are always paranoid and worrying about the end of the world progress? or move forward.

people who believes in the end rather than the beginning. it is a race to the bottom.
lol baba no be so. I am a Muslim and I am a strong believer but i am also a scientist. I read a lot about science related topics and articles especially astronomy, quantum physics and anything space related.

I am not here to criticize your believe or anything but I don't think you should blame religion. Blame the worshippers who do not understand religion.

For example, supposing you have a car and you want to know how good it is then you employ a driver who is not an expert to drive your car, he crashes the car who would the blame go to the driver or the car? Obviously the driver.

Religion never asked us to be stupid, never asked us to be backward but those who do not understand what religion is all about makes someone think it is crap.

Religion and science are two different things. I haven't read all religion scriptures but I am very sure no religion scripture is against discovery and science advancement, no religion scripture tells us to be lazy. It is the followers of the religion that just want to be.

An average Nigerian will rather believe in prophecy from one Alfa or pastor instead of him to work hard. If the creator is lazy would the universe be in place

An average Nigerian will rather curse a bad government instead of him to go out and vote during elections. The blame is on the individual not religion.

We should all understand the purpose why we are here, make peace with our maker help solve the problem of humanity, love our neighbours and we will just be on the right track.

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Science/Technology / Re: 170-Million-Year-Old Stegosaurus Dinosaur Footprints On UK Island Discovered by Gartol(m): 2:33pm On Mar 12, 2020
akmath:
Dis people go de call year like say na day
lol they use carbon dating, it might not be the exact age but they are usually close. The dinosaurs got extinct about 65million years ago. Some say 65-67 million years. There are many theories tied to the extinction of the dinosaurs but the most accepted one is that the earth was hit by a giant asteroid which wiped out more than 90% of living creatures back then.

But you know a dinosaur are enormous creature, though no dinosaur fossils have been found to be 100% intact but archeologist use things like footprints, diet,fosdils rtc and other hints to visualize what the dinosaurs could actually look like.

Just like the megalodon sharks( a specie of shark that existed some millions of years ago) No actually fossils have been found about these massive creatures except thier teeth.

According to findings and analogies it is said that these sharks are so massive that they as big as the size of a bus

Bottom line is these findings will tell us a great lot about how our planet was before human beings started exploring.

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Science/Technology / Re: 170-Million-Year-Old Stegosaurus Dinosaur Footprints On UK Island Discovered by Gartol(m): 2:13pm On Mar 12, 2020
ArewaGroup:



Africans are only interested in entertainment not science.

We have been living with River Niger for thousands of years but not interested to know about the water, it took some body from Scotland to come and discover the route of the River,
We now named him as the founder of River Niger and teach our children about him(Mungo Park)

We Africans will be seeing these scientists as fools or jobless people while they make names for themselves by making history.

Our children will grow up someday and be reading about them
baba leave talk jaare even if you were present during the old times you wouldn't have discovered river Niger. Africa as a whole distant itself to the rest of the world. We knew little about the outside world. When the whites first discovered this continent, they called it the dark continent. Its only Egypt I can say adapted well to early civilisation.

Furthermore, Egypt has lost its glory I don't know why but when Egypt was flourishing in areas of architecture, medicine, and trade a lot of European countries where in there dark ages.

You can't really blame our ancestors, you would just be like them if you were present with them in the old times. The responsibility should lie on us now. But are we even taking the chances?

An average Africa man is not even able to put food on his own table. Times are hard the country is bad the government are not helping matters. We pour out lot of graduates every year but we don't have anything to show for it.

It's not that we don't have brilliant minds but when kind of need an external force to reach our elastic limit. Africa need to stay woke and get back on track I know we may be way behind but the key to success is at hand we are not just making the most of it

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