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Newton85:
Your tears and bitterness are noted, pained IPOB miscreant.

Visit Aregbe schools in Osogbo, Ile Ife etc. More than 6 yrs now and counting. This is Yoruba land.

OfficialGaGa:
I can bet my balls.... with the zero maintenance culture we have in the country.... this "beautiful" structure in the next 5-7 years go turn to NURTW Secretariat...

Not hating oh... it's a fact.... but BMC nor go gree ...

Desmond ediiot people

Go to Osun State and see if Aregbe school of sane quality even similar design are not been well maintained.

Obagreatdatoye:
Just use this tenure in peace and leave...murderer..oloribu

U need help seriously. And urgently. If dem born una pápá well, try to go on any destruction protest again. This time na real thing will be used not BB to ensure peace by all means. Bunch of arsonists

JosephXavier:
[s]This is very ridiculous and mind-boggling

I'm sorry to say this but this Afonja of a thing is a trait that can't easily be wiped, it's like it's in the DNA

Why would someone reasonable choose to betray his people for the bloodsucking herdsmen

Yorubas sometimes does some things to prove they are betrayers and it's really bad

They are the only tribe that will comfortably do that in Nigeria[/s]

Your buffonery and mental health issues are genetical.

Who introduced all these evils into Nigeria? Or why is it till today no political religious or traditional leader in SE has call out ur these criminals being executed all over the world for all sort of crimes.

You are a curse to any society.

TheAlchemist:
If only AJ can get Floyd Mayweather on his team... then he has a running chance against Tyson fury! Seriously speaking how does AJ beat a boxer with longer arm reach, faster hand speed, great ring movement, granite chin and fearless heart...sentiments apart AJ needs a miracle.

Go and watch his matches. AJ is a boxer. An Olympic gold medalist must be. That he added brute power to knock opponents out cold is an added bonus.
Fury hasn't fought as diverse opponent as AJ. So where is the comparison?

Kestolove:
AJ just sign his death warrant, AJ is not a good fighter and fury know this that's why his saying he can't go pass 3rd round with him...I pity AJ aswear

I can bet my balls, you are either an ipob or from the yeast. If he is not from us, he can't be good. Ur hatred for other Blacks is what is holding u back as a people. Spit

Thewrath:
You don’t want to get the average igboman angry,war is not new to Igboland.

You like sense. If food is stopped from going to SE now, u will be wailing genocide again

Nyanabo:


Will those same media and government you mentioned have a terrorist sympathizers as part of their cabinet? Stop being hypocritical here.

Do you wanna to compare IPOB to alqeada and all other terrorists groups? Is IPOB a terrorist group?

You are not being coherent in thought dude

Nyanabo:
'A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth'
IPOB and their leader has been calling this country a Zoo. Now we see why. He saw it before any body else.

A proscribed group is entitled to fair bearing whether in court or the Media. So what cards are these bunch of hooligans with trying to play??

Seriously Nigeria is doomed, if you still doubt that go have your head checked because you are living in pretense

My village lawyer. Ipob was declared a terrorist organization by a court of law. Tried that in US and the station will be sealed

Nonsense. The fine is a joke. Let CNN or Fox news dare grant interview to Hezbollah or Hamas leader in US. Their license will be revoked for life. And those involved fully and brutally prosecuted

optionalY09:
Today Monday 26th, April 2020 3:00am. News came in that Chief Sunday Igboho House in Ibadan is under attack. We call on all Yoruba globally to be on alert the Nigerian army has brought the war to us and we must show them that we are no coward and want our self determination and we want it now.

Under attack by whom? Is Igboho not a garage man and always in conflict with Union leaders e.g Auxiliary?

And how is this a Yoruba nation problem? Igboho is not and can never be a Yoruba leader. He neither has the intellectual capacity not the Omoluabi ethos

Excellent piece. But you won't see the son's if eight here bri g objective.

Well done Gov Okowa. Two issues settled by that short speech.
1. Olu of Warri not Ode Itshekiris.
2. The yeye edict finally buried.

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Nigeria has got a terrific strike force at the moment. Any reasonable coach must make Nigeria play on the offence not defence presently. We don't have great defenders so our best bet is to outscore teams.

You are spot on. But our defence is actually solid with the right selection. Aina, Ebuehi, Nwaziem and of course Sheu Abdullahi are solid on the right full back. Aina can also ay beitifully on the left flank of the back.

Central defence, Balogun and Ajayi are solid, Troos is not consistent anymore though.
Most impottantly to cover the back 4 or 3, Etebo, Ndidi, Aribo, Sheu Abdullahi again and even Ajayi.

Our problem is the creative midfield, Nwobi is on and off. While this coach is not inviting Kelechi Nwakali is a strange to me.

Some ppl criticise Ahmed Musa out of ignorance. In big game, he is the only one that can play on the left flank and still cut in as false 9 to score. Even better when Chukwueze, Simon or Kalu are on top of their game.

But Rohr is a terrible tactician like Wenger. They can influence game with substituons or change formations when needed

tollyboy5:
Na you kill am?

Ijebu axis are major PDP. Theyre big stakeholder

Edited:
Just watch the way remo APC will support their son in PDP

What are you saying sef? Is Dapo not Remo? Is OGD not Remo?

Ovie56:
I urge you to reserve judgement till you've seen the whole video. It was definitely not a racist act, bad policing? Yes. such can't happen to me, I'm not a criminal ,it won't be my neck, he wasn't arrested for being a law abiding citizen, I agree he (Chauvin) should be locked away .
I can also assure you that with the interraction Floyd had with the police that day the result would have been the same if Chauvin was a black police officer.

Did you know they've successfully aressted him (Floyd) and put him in the back of the car?
Did you know he (Floyd) begged them to be put on the floor?
Did you know that he has been saying he couldn't breathe before they even cuff him?

Try and watch the whole 40+ interraction and think of how you will react if you were one of the police officers.
That they spent 40+ minutes trying to put an unarmed man to the back of the car should tell you they dd all they could do to de-escalate

I have seen the whole interaction, no way anyone will convince me it was a racist attack. Bad policing? Yes.

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You are not ok period. U don't seem to be able to think straight. What video are u talking about?

blaise00700:
Here's a country that works.

Say what you know pls you these village boys. Do you know how many people are killed every year by cops and still go scotch free in US? If not the implicit threat of large scale violence, this bastard would have been set free under technicality.

In which sans society will a cop act such cold heartedly. And which a cop shot and killed a 13 years old.

DelTel:
Do you know what SRCC is?

Pls don't dabble into what you don't know.

It is not good to be bragging on falsehood. If you don't know it is fine. No where on the globe except communist states are war, riot, and natural disasters cover by any insurance company. Check this up.

What is in place in some climes is a govt or public funded scheme that cover such. Which I doubt we have in Nigeria. In a place like SA, it is call SASRIA

Truthshots2:
No, Ife is a small village which the British started developing as from 1912 all you hear about Ife are fairytales.

Pls stop derailing the topic and leave discussions to sane and sober minds. Enough of your incoherent unintelligible posts.

soonest:
Methinks, Itsekiris are more yoruba than binis but their ruling house is of bini ancestry.

But the Bini ruling house is of Ife ancestry.

Truthshots2:
Actually, current "yoruba" is purely artificial, there is no similar culture.
The true yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom.

Which Oyo kingdom you keep repeating sef? Oyo kingdom is relatively a very young kingdom compare to Ife and Ogiso dynasties. It was founded by Oranmiyan after he left Ibini. And at its height it included Egbas Ibadans etc

I am sorry to post this, but if you sample those that said Fury will beat AJ, 95% will be ipobs and yeasterners. Even those that knows next to nothing abt boxing have suddnely become analysts.
AJ with 4 belts will be sent to the ICU by one fringe belt holder? The same way the bad belle bigots were hyping Wilder up and down when they have just watched a couple of his fight highlights against fringe contenders.

AJ have faced tougher opponents than Fury and is a far better boxer any day. He is an Olympic gold medalist. He has learnt a lot from Ruiz loss. And the second match showed he can go the distance. He is younger and more powerful.

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Daum:
It is the itsekiris that told the Portuguese that we are Binis... Oromiyan coming to Benin didn't make us become Benins. In fact we call Benin city Edo. A man in auchi will tell you he is traveling to Edo(benin). The urhobo man will call Benin (AKA)... The igbos would say it's idu.

So before Oromiyan came, the rulers of Edo were called Ogiso. After he came the title changed to what it is now. The title was given to Eweka by the Benin people.

Then we both have an undeniable strong link and relationship. The Ife people then are quite aware then to be refering to only the royal house people as Binis, just to keep alive the blood they share with them. While Edos rightly refer to themselves as Edos. But unfortunately it is impossible to separate those with Yoruba blood from the pure Edo people.

So Yorubas are now Edos and Edos are Yorubas. Unity in diversity.

Daum:
Point of correction
Eweka never prevailed over the ogiamen. It was his great grandson Oba Ewedo who did. If you look at my post, I say Oromiyan had Yoruba blood in him via his mother. We will not talk about his paternal lineage because both of us agree Oduduwa was not from ife, he wasn't Yoruba.

But if Odùduwà is not Yoruba how can Eweka or Oranmiyan has Yoruba blood?

On the Odùduwà history, it is a big shame that most Yorubas don't even know the true story or endeavor to. When Yorubas say Odùduwà descended from the heaven, they don't believe it. Samething with Igodomigodo story. These are called myths. But the same people believe that Elijah rode a craft to heaven and that Jesus ascended to heaven.

Only the Ife people can authoritatively tell the story, and then only the Aworo Odùduwà, those are the descendants of Odùduwà in Ile Ife.

In Yoruba mythology, it is believe that everything is in doubles, call it duality of existence. For example some people think that Sango, the son of Oranmiyan is the same Sango that is a diety. Not at all. How can Sango a contemporary of Ogun, Obatala etc be the same as Sango the son of oranmiyan and a Nupe mother?.

Sango the diety is better known as Oranfe onílé Ina in Ife. The same way Obaluaye is called Sanpona outside Ife. But becos the later Sango show similar power of thunder controlling like Sango the Oranfe, he was given the name Sango.

The samething with Odùduwà. There is Odùduwà the contemporary of Agboniregun etc. He descended from heaven. The later Oduduwa migrated down from Nile area, some said Arabia. And for people saying he migrated from Edo land, tell them the Edo people were part of the massive migration down from the Nile area. S it is not true.

UGBE634:
Do you get it all Oronmiyan met Edo land and Edo people on ground and call the place and the people Ile ibinu, what happen to those chiefs that followed iginuwa to warri? who are they today? the answers to this question should answer your question.

Respect!

That is, Binis Ifes and Itshekiris have a common royalty. And there is strength in unity! . Before and including Ọba Akenzua, that was the mantra.

TeraHawks:
I agree with your position on overturning the rule to let the son of a Yoruba woman take his rightful throne.

However, you realize the decision to overturn should have been agreed upon before this situation came up. It would not look good that the rules of a football game are changed during play to give a team an advantage. So, I would say the installation of the new Olu is held off until this all important meeting is held and the rule changed with the full agreement of all parties. Otherwise, the Olu designate is dropped for someone who meets all the rules. Fairness is very critical in matters like this.

Lastly, the Yoruba's are an offshoot of the Bini and not the other way round. You can do your research on this.

Yorubas can not be offshoot of Binis. But if you said Yoruba royalty are offshoot of Edos, no matter how contentious that may sound, let me agree.

Edo royalty are Yorubas, Yorubas royalty are Edos na the same thing. They both have something in common.

Daum:
You see you guys always skip the main points. I never said anything about Oronmiyan being the first Oba or not. I said he left in anger because he couldn't rule. He was practically powerless. The Edions who brought him from Ife, didn't give him power. Power was with the Ogiamen.

You Yoruba have painted a history in your head like Oronmiyan came in a war horse with his army and invaded benin and conquered it. Then he put his son to rule over Benin... Oronmiyan was brought to Benin by the Edions. He could not even defeat the Ogiamen. He left in anger.... The people he met didn't even understand him. So this whole idea of him being conqueror in Benjn and Benin people being Yoruba... I don't know where those lies come from

Only those ignorant of history will said that Oranmiyan conquered Edo land. He was invited. And he left in frustration and anger with the Ogiamme antagonism. But he left his son Eweka for a good reason. And even tough the Ogiamme first refused to let Eweka ruled eventually he prevailed and become the arguably second Ona of Benin.

To digress a bit, don't u think the Ife people will know more about Oranmiyan, who was born and raised there, than anyone else?

Oranmiyan is not a son of Odùduwà but a grandson. Not by any chance a first born. But due to his warrior nature as Ifá revealed he was allowed to go with the Edions by Odùduwà. Who will trust his first born, the Adimula in waiting to travel that far with strangers?

Daum:
The title of the Oba of Benin is Omo N'oba Nedo....

But was it like that before Oranmiyan from Ilé Ife arrived? Were they ever called Binis?
Was the king title ever Ọmọ Noba?
Wasn't it Ogiso?

UGBE634:
I can see you are not willing to learn until you accept and shield your ignorance aside that Edos and Binis are one and the same thing then we can continue

Now I get your point.
The reason I was stressing that sliver of point, is that only the descendants of Oranmiyan can become Oba of Benin.
Even Odùduwà met autonomous groups in Ile Ife but we are now all call Yorubas and not Ọmọ Odùduwà and Ọmọ Obatala.

Daum:
I do not agree Eweka was a Yoruba man. I said Oronmiyan had Yoruba blood in him via his mother. I stressed that part.

For argument sake let's agree that only Oronmiyan mother is Yoruba. And leave the Odùduwà part for other time. Then Eweka too has Yoruba blood then thru his father Oranmiyan. Let call those from Eweka with Yoruba blood via their ancestral mother Binis and the pure Edo people as Edos.

And since only those Binis can become Oba, then the Bini monarchy is part Yoruba then.

And if those are the same people that instituted Warri throne, it also is part Yoruba. I hope u get my point.