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It certainly makes a lot of sense to disparage Islam when your religion is built on falsehood.

ISLAM RULES!!!

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Seconded

Alhamdulilah!

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@Op The Muslims testify of his immaculate conception and miracles and the Quran advocates us to reverenced and show obeisance to him and rest of the Prophets, Jesus is still a Paragon of virtue in Islam and the Muslims follow his footsteps and the good news he brought which is MONOTHEISM from his LORD, hence Jesus was God's sent and someone who bow to the will of his Lord we expect his true followers to do the same. This is Jesus from the Islamic perspective and if i may ask who is Jesus according to you or your beliefs.

Exactly!

OP, you dry baje #yawn#

Paul

enilove: Chang your mindset and fear God,then He will deliver you from the power of darkness that has caged you from seeing the evil in slicing the throat of a human being like you.

And what makes you think you fear God more than me?
Tell me something else jare.
You're the one who needs to change your narrow mindset about other people's religion.

enilove: Let the idol worshippers continue to kill for their god,they will one day die and end up in hell fire.
Anyone silently enjoying seeing or hearing innocent people killed, shall die one day, and demons will enjoy seeing him roast in hell fire.

It is by their fruits that you shall know them. They are idolaters and Satanic Children.

Have you ever heard of Lavon Affair?
Maybe this will quench your ignorance: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071003044831AAK6hOJ

enilove: Dont be decieved, the Muslims are the antichrists.
The mark of the beast is being tested, and world wide, the Muslims are killing and jailing the Christians.

Most Christians are spiritually sleeping and not ready.

The spirit inside them is the spirit of Allah. They jubilate and are happy when they kill innocent people.They will shout "Allah be praised" when they see blood of the innocents flowing.

Christianity was b4 Islam,but it tolerates every religion.

The spirit in the muslims is from the devil that hates peace and loves violence.

The end time is near.Be prayerful.

Not again. Why do I have the impression that you are unintelligent?
What are the characteristics of the antichrist according to the bible?
I can show you why Paul, yourself and your GOs are the antichrist only that your pride won't let you see the reasons.
Why is the antichrist predicted to come from either Italy or Greece and not from muslim countries or you don't read your bible very well.
You really need to calm down. It is not everyone that can be fooled with your lies and ignorance.

enilove: Saturday was the Sabbath day. There are reasons why most Christians now worship on sudays. This does not make it a sin ,as long as you set a day aside to worship God.
Remember that Jesus said in Mark2:27 that "Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath".

Wow!
You need to explain to us what you wrote above especially setting aside a day to worship God.
The question still remain is Sunday or Saturday sabbath day?

Waiting for a better answer...

frosbel: At least she was not killed .

I am sure if the roles were reversed it would have been a different story.

What roles? If the principal had been a Muslim and the student a christian, What would have happened?

Is NL paying people to comment for God sake?

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People are not interested in the truth but in winning an argument. That was why I had to back out of this argument. Imaging someone saying Allah doesn't mean God when it is clearly stated in the bible.
I love Jesus (Isa, PBUH) as well but not to the extent of calling him God or worst still defending that position.
You need not say more. Those who want to hear, let them hear!

What exactly do christians know for certain about Jesus (Isa, PBUH) apart from those abstract things one Paul said about him. What do we know about the Paul itself except that he used to be Saul. What was his last name?

I'll not be part of a reasoning of a wicked father who had to sacrifice his only "begotten son" in order to forgive us our sins. Never!

Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is a messenger of God, Period! God bless the real Jesus (Isa, PBUH)!

Expecting the brainwashed "evangelist" to flock this thread with how he died for their sins, how I will need the Holy Ghost to know him, et cetera!

For Those who said light of the world sorry to burst your bubble, the world is now in darkness more than it was centuries ago.

Allahu Akbar

Jaftee: Christianity is not the most divided, check out islam. Some belive in kill for God and planty of conrolversy. Christianity belive in trinity God the father, God the son, God the holy spirit.

Nevertheless, there are plenty of fake preachers.. Those that does it for money, ofcos you will know them by action. This post proves that you know little about christianity, I suggest you research before posting.
This is blasphemy.

Petitio principii: begging the question

So pathetic a comment.

thorpido: And you don't know Adam was god?

If Adam was god, jesus was god and thorpido is god I have no problem with that.

From your topic it seems like you want only Christians to comment. But if you don't mind, here is another perspective.

God is not the author of confusion.

But the comforter, which is the HOLY GHOST, whom Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you - John 14-26.

Whoever changed Periqlytos to HOLY GHOST is the author of confusion.

Read: Muhammed (PBUH) in the Bible by David Benjamin Keldani, former Bishop of Uniate chalden.

For any questions on what I've just said, I'll be waiting...

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Thank you for this beautiful piece.

Your conclusion "Jesus IS NOT GOD-ELEDUMARE-CHUKWU" sums up this whole debate.

Thank you once again.

I wonder why the authors of the bible are so equivocal about who Jesus (Isa, PBUH) was. Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is definitely not almighty God.

The similitude of Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is that of Adam (PBUH). God say "be and they were." Almighty God is the all powerful, all knowing, all merciful, all forgiving. He will continue to be.

"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him" - The Noble Quran 112 (Complete).

Tbaba, JazakAllahu Khair.

kingstarr: Yes! Jesus Christ is not God the Father but if you understand the Divine Administrative Policy operating in the Grand universe then you would agree with me that Jesus Christ is God in our Universe because he is the only God-begotten son in our Universe and he created all things within our Universe, including you and I.

Col:1:16: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominionb
s, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col:1:17: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Divine administrative policy ko, divine bureaucratic policy ni! Who created all things within our universe including you and I? Definitely not Jesus (Isa,PBUH)!

If Jesus(Isa, PBUH) is a son of God, what about Adam(PBUH)? They both have no earthly father remember?

At least we are making headway. Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is not almighty God. I think we all agree on that.

To the second question: when we say Jesus (Isa,PBUH) is a son of God what are we talking about?

frosbel: Fellow Christians , let us not beat around the bush, this is why people get so confused when we attempt to explain something that is glaringly obvious.

Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD , Period.

God is GOD.

"He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David," - Luke 1:32

In the above passage , he is called Son of the most high and it is GOD his father who puts him on the throne.

This is literal common sense, even the apostles never called Jesus GOD.

God is not a man.

Let us not be conduits for the repetition of tradition.

Jesus even said that the father is greater then him.

"You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I,'" (John 14:28).

Giving you a handshake right now.

To the second question: when we say Jesus (Isa,PBUH) is a son of God what are we talking about?

enilove: I have answered the question of wazobia,which you can read as well.I am a god. For more understanding ,read my reply to wazobia.

The bible references you requested for are these:

1- Revelation 1:8 - 18 " I am Alpha and Omega,the biginning and the ending,said the Lord, which is and was,& which is to come,the Almighty...........verse 18 ,I am he that liveth & was dead;& behold I am alive for evermore,Amen;and have the keys of hell and of death.

2-John 10:30- "I and my father are one.Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.Jesus answered them,many good works have I shewed you fron my Father ;for which of these works do ye stone me?The Jews answered him ,saying ,For a good work we stone thee not ;but for blasphemy; & because that thou,being a man,makest thyself God.Jesus answered them ,Is it not written in your law,I said ,Ye are gods?.......verse 37- 38 "If I do not the works of my Father ,believe me not.But if I do ,though ye believe not me,believe the works:that ye may know,& believe ,that the Father is in me ,& I in the father".

The Jews wanted to stone our Lord Jesus Christ because he said he is God in the above passage.This he said indirectly by saying his father is God that created the heaven and the earth.

If follow my train of thought on this topic,you will understand better.I dont want to keep repeating the same points all over again.
I have not said Jesus is the Almighty God ,the creator of the universe,but that as God's son,he has all the attributes of his Father in heaven,and Jesus is also God,for the fact that God is a title. God refered to we His created human beings as gods.And He also called idols gods.

Thanks.

You are a god, idols are gods, dogs are gods, lizards and every other thing he created are gods. Therefore it will be absolutely right for me to referred to you as dog. Definitely you won't buy that no matter how much you likes dogs.

I am not here to talk about whether Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is god or not, I'm here to talk about whether he is the Almighty God or not. Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is not almighty God and he will never be. He is a messenger of Allah. Jesus (Isa, PBUH) definitely didn't created heaven and earth.

Do you even know the consequence if my father is a king and I went about saying I am a king while he is still alive? The worst I can be referred to is "Omo Oba" or "Oba lola" nothing more.

Do you also know what will be the consequence for a president elect who goes about calling himself president before he is sworn in?

Even the verses you quoted get as e be. You're still begging the questions eni.

I need verses where Jesus (Isa, PBUH) said he is Almighty God.

Still waiting...

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If Jesus (PBUH) was God then

Whom he used to worship?

…”Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.” (Luke 5:16)

…”he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed…” (Matthew 26:39)

“One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.” (From the NIV Bible, Luke 6:12)

And who was running this Universe before his Birth and after his Departure to Heaven up till now?

“I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me”. (John 5:30)

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me”. (John 8:42)

…”for the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28)

“My Father is greater than all.” (John 10:29).

NB: The terms “father”and “son” were used metaphorically, not literally. “father” was used by the Hebrews to indicate the Spiritual Father, not the literal father. Similarly, "son" is used to indicate a righteous person.

Still waiting for verses...

proo212: I do not know if the OP is an Atheist, Jehovah's Witness or a Muslim. I would want to lean on the second two because Atheist do not normally ask these type of questions.

@Geewan, please tell me why Allah had to declare that Mohammed is a warner/prophet

I need answers/verses, not questions.
Where are the verses from the bible?
Still waiting...

enilove: I have explained this in my first post.It is written in John 10:25-37.

pls,read it and respond.Am waiting as well.

Oga enilove,

Let us keep this very simple. Paste the verse in the bible so we can see.

Are you also God as asked by wazobia?

We are derailing ooo

Where is the chapter in the bible?

Still waiting...

Table Leg :
What has terrorism got to do with the post now?
Even if the story was a lie or was unconfirmed, did it say anything about terrorism?
You fu....cking idio..ts just love to stir up unnecessary aggro and religious hatred or fights ...
Go and find something to do with your life, you flipping nuisance!

You are only wasting your time talking to that atheist.
His middle name is controversy. I wonder why the high blood pressure about religion for someone who doesn't believe in God.

Iya Jesoul, pls don't come & tell us to continue on the below thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1213319/gay-church-resume-operations-lagos

I don't know why you are closing any thread with similar topic at all.

How true is this story?

Could this have influenced him? https://www.nairaland.com/880463/secret-14million-bible-which-jesus.