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davidnazee:
You make me laugh.. one factor that saved Igbo land from Benin kingdom was the river Niger. If not for the river and the tasks of crossing it every time we would have conquered you the way we conquered the Yorubas.

u couldn't even beat the igbos in Delta talk less of crossing river. They bested u peeps

davidnazee:
The Agha Iduu Na oba war started because the Oba of Benin executed all the Nri princes and princesses. He sacrificed them to Edo gods.
The Igbos were mad and wanted revenge, that’s how the war started. Benin defeated Igbos in that war but lost heavily too.
If u like no gree, I just educated you on history.

educated who?. We built castles using ur head as block. I told u to come to anambra. I will be ur guide. I will take u round nri. To see the magnificent castles we build with ur warriors head. I will personally take u there.

davidnazee:
I think u are mixing stories. The Agha Iduu Na oba war was won by Benin..
but during the time when Benin was colonizing everywhere, we couldn’t penetrate deep into Igbo heartland past Onitsha because the Igbo fighters were too aggressive and they successfully pushed the Benin armies back, but we didn’t bother to try again because your lands were deemed not economically viable so not worth sacrificing soldiers for. We would have probably won if we kept trying.

lies from the pit of hell.we bested ur disciplined army in combat and chased u back to edo.we slaughteredd u people like goats after all the edo slavess u people offered as sacrifice.

davidnazee:
Hmmm sorry bro, no be so e happen.
Benin won the war but both sides suffered heavy casualties.
I will agree that the Igbos were aggressive and courageous fighters but in the end a disciplined army will always defeat a barbaric army.

eyah. Sorry bro. Ur so called disciplined army was severely beaten and their heads used to build monument in nri. Ave u been to nri Kingdom in anambra. Go there and see for urself. The heads of ur fore fathers

davidnazee:
So you that know tell us about Eze Chima.
If you don’t know then my version stands to be true.

Ezechima is an igbo man that sojourned in edo but when he the place became hostile for him and his people. He left tracing his root to where he came from. Incase u don't know. Some onitsha people are now making discoveries of where ezechime came from and some believe that he is from owerre.. A place anoda great ancient kingdom stood. A place called isu

davidnazee:
I didn’t say Benin defeated Igboland. The war called Agha Iduu Na Oba was won by the Oba of Benin. The Igbo army was crushed, thousands of Igbo heads taken. It was a brutal war for both sides, Benin lost thousands too but prevailed in the end.
The story is part of Igbo folklore, go ask ur elders.

lol igbo folklore i knw said that we repelled ur attacks and finally subdued u peeps into advancing into igbo territory and ur warriors squashed and heads taken as trophy

davidnazee:
I didn’t say Benin defeated Igboland. The war called Agha Iduu Na Oba was won by the Oba of Benin. The Igbo army was crushed, thousands of Igbo heads taken. It was a brutal war for both sides, Benin lost thousands too but prevailed in the end.
The story is part of Igbo folklore, go ask ur elders.

lol. It was the other way round. We squashed ur bini army and donated ur head to our deity. Even though we lost a number of people. We repelled ur attack and send u people running. Till u had no other choice but to make peace with us...

davidnazee:
Why are u blinded by jealousy?? Even early Europeans to West Africa attested to the fact that Great Benin kingdom encompassed everywhere from river Niger to Togo. So let’s not debate that.

Eze Chima is different from the War of Oba of Benin against the igbos.
Even you don’t know anything about Eze Chima so you have to accept my version.
The war of Agha Idu Na Oba was a campaign the Oba of Benin led against the Igbos. It was a brutal war, thousands of lives lost but in the end the Oba defeated the Igbos.
That’s why the Igbos are still angry till today, they cannot forget the might of a great king

historoan. What do you know about ezechime. The name ezechime does it in anyway sound edo to u.

davidnazee:
Why are u blinded by jealousy?? Even early Europeans to West Africa attested to the fact that Great Benin kingdom encompassed everywhere from river Niger to Togo. So let’s not debate that.

Eze Chima is different from the War of Oba of Benin against the igbos.
Even you don’t know anything about Eze Chima so you have to accept my version.
The war of Agha Idu Na Oba was a campaign the Oba of Benin led against the Igbos. It was a brutal war, thousands of lives lost but in the end the Oba defeated the Igbos.
That’s why the Igbos are still angry till today, they cannot forget the might of a great king

pure fallacy. U bini people are fond of twisting history. U defeated igboland. Bros udey craze. The ekumeku war lasted thirty years between us and britz. Nah small bini. Abeg swerve

Don't mind him.

gidgiddy:
Igbos from present day Nteje in Anambra were said to have migrated across the River Niger where they founded a town called "Ahaba" which was later anglicised by the British to mean 'Asaba.

Another part of the group moved in a different direction and stopped to rest by a road side. They founded a settlement by that road side and called it "Igbo bi n'uzo" (Igbos that live by the road). Igbo bi n'uzo was shortend to Igbo-uzo then anglicised by the British to Ibusa.

beautiful piece but the problem is will they listen. The worst of it all is that they cannot provide evidence or narrate how they moved out from bini and settled there. If you try to make them see facts. They start insulting u

pazienza:
Just seeing this now.

Yes! Ndiigbo existed in both sides of the River Niger, almost at the same time. We were indigenous to both sides of the River Niger.
If the River Niger couldn't separate small ethnic group like Nupe, who occupy both sides of the Niger, what then made people to think that the Proto Igbo speaking people highly populated people were limited on one side of the River by the River Niger?

The mistake many make is to assume that any Western Igbo community must have migrated from the East side of the Niger.
This is an erroneous assumption that have hampered the full understanding of Igbo history.
The Western and Eastern Igbolands were inhabited by Ndiigbo about same time. Communities in Western Igbo had to deal with endless hordes of people trooping into the area from Unstable Bini Kingdom, and each time these Bini cultured people, many of whom were of western Igbo origin to begin with, arrived to Western Igboland, they reorganized the communities, and set new order, hence are assumed to have founded the communities, where as in true sense, these Proto Igbo communities were autochthonous (Aboriginal) to the area, and were only made to come together to form new centralized communities by the Bini arrivals, who then go on to erase the history of the community, replacing it with a Bini one. Or rather, the people out of desire to be part of Bini empire, happily forgot their old history, for the new ones being written by the Bini arrivals.

The movement across the Niger by Igbo people was not a one way traffic affair.
Some Igbo groups aboriginal to Western Igbo moved from Western Igbo to Eastern Igbo. For example, the Akri groups, who are found in Ogbaru, ie Akri Ozizor (Stella Oduah) , Akri Ogidi, and Atani( Osita Osadebey hometown), the remnant of Akri people had since been assimilated by other Igbo groups in Ndokwa/Ukwuani area of Western Igbo.

We still have the great Ubulu people migration from Western Igbo land, that is believed to have founded all the Ubulu/Uburu/Uvulu attached groups in Eastern Igboland, like Ozubulu in Anambra amongst so many others.

It is said in some quarters that there was once a great Igbo Kingdom in the place currently occupied by Aniocha/Oshimili people, called Ogidi.
This kingdom became troubled by many factors and broke down, forcing its inhabitants to disperse within Western Igbo and across the Niger.
As a young man, I grew up with my grand father, in my Ogidi hometown, I often asked him where Ezechumagha, the father of Inwelle, who gave birth to Ogidi, the founder of our town came from, the old man never had answers for that, he only told me that it's speculated that he came from Nri, but that nobody is sure about that too.
I had thought about this, and I came to realize that Ogidi couldn't have come from Nri. We live in an area dominated By Nri culture, but we are not Nri, we can't trace our lineage in Nri.
From my observation, the name "Ogidi", is more prevalent amongst the western Igbos, and we have Akri-Ogidi, a town who though are presently in Eastern Igbo, were actually aboriginal to Western Igboland.
My deduction is that Ezechumagha( Grandfather of Ogidi) was likely a descendants of this lost Ogidi kingdom in Western Igbo.
This is also, why some Anioma people try to claim Ogidi as an Anioma town sometimes. But what they don't realize is that Ogidi was not of the current Bini macabre dance they are dancing.
If at all, that after thorough research, it's proven that Ogidi actually came from Western Igbo, then,, it would only mean that we were aboriginal Igbos west of Niger, ie, descendants of the now lost and forgotten old Ogidi kingdom of Western Igbo, and not a group of misguided and confused Bini wannabes that currently inhabit that part of ancient Igbo land.

the problem is will they listen. Some of them cannot provide facts how they migrated out from bini. They end up insulting u if u provide them with facts

So the Yorubas and the hausa fulani am seeing there are for decoration. Y hate the igbo. Did u see how this pit sniffing mooz told us how kaduna and ifeajuna are the main conspirators removing the other people. What I observed is that they saw is an opportunity to seize the position the igbos are holding. But after everything what ave they done with it.