jaephoenix:

Science hasn't and would never claim knowledge of everything. It only attempts to know. Science tends to improve on itself regularly. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Lemme explain.
In medical science, if a patient presents to me and says, "Oh, I have a big hump on my back, please cut it off" and has no such hump, do I say, "Oh there is no physical evidence of the presence of this hump, however, let me assume there may be a hump since we can't see it physically but spiritually it may be there"? No. Why? Because science(medical science in this case) doesn't care about your spiritual bullshit. I can bundle that patient to the psyche ward and manage him for schizophrenia.
That's how we roll. Thank you

jaephoenix:

What do you mean by 'belief system'? Atheism simply means no belief in a god or supreme being or supernatural. There is no belief system, sire

jaephoenix:

The Universe isn't fine tuned for life. Our body isn't perfect

Maynman:

Physics LITERALLY means Nature.
"Laws of physics" are just our observation of how nature works, nature does not work on laws of physics.

Maynman:

Stop lying, I never claim to know all.

I will answer your question, when you tell me the purpose of rain and nature.

Maynman:

Read very well, WHY do rain fall, what is the purpose.

And you still went back to NATURE again, what is the purpose of natural meteorological process called water cycle?

What is the purpose of nature?

Maynman:

Read very well, WHY do rain fall, what is the purpose.

And you still went back to NATURE again, what is the purpose of natural meteorological process called water cycle?

What is the purpose of nature?

Maynman:
Why do rain fall, keep dodging it but don't be an hypocrite demanding for answers too.

You can only deceive yourself by repeating so many times that your idea of supernatural is not from religion when the word itself is from religion circle.

Science literally means Knowledge, some theists call their god omni-Science, the opposite of knowledge is ignorance, maybe that's your scope.

Maynman:
Why do rain fall, keep dodging it but don't be an hypocrite demanding for answers too.

You can only deceive yourself by repeating so many times that your idea of supernatural is not from religion when the word itself is from religion circle.

Science literally means Knowledge, some theists call their god omni-Science, the opposite of knowledge is ignorance, maybe that's your scope.

Maynman:

Who told you water originated from somewhere?
Get some education this is not some "supernatural" that you convince people to believe in but facts that you can debates, all life come from water.

Why do rain fall?

Maynman:

Who told you water originated from somewhere?
Get some education this is not some "supernatural" that you convince people to believe in but facts that you can debates, all life come from water.

Why do rain fall?

Maynman:

Who told you water originated from somewhere.

Why do rain fall?

Maynman:

Atheism has nothing to do with abiogenesis.

All life originates from water, even in your mother's womb you started as a fish swimming in the space and water of the womb.

You are little

Maynman:

Only the ego requires reasons for things.

Why do rain fall?
Why do you fart?

Stop dodging and answer my question I have been asking you since YESTERDAY.
Your theism emptiness that you are hiding will be exposed.

Why do rain fall?

Maynman:

Stop lying,i asked you this long before you asked this.
Why do rain fall?

And remember you are not a body, you have a body, and it is the body that needs appetite.

jaephoenix:

This is just like a theist saying “prove to me there is no god" which is a bullshit question. He who alleges must provide evidence. And what idea of supernatural is outside religion?
It looks like your scientific knowledge is poor. For you to insinuate that dreams, sleep, gravity etc are supernatural suggests how much knowledge you lack

Maynman:

Why do rain fall?

Maynman:

You can't prove that what does not exist does not exist

The evidence is it does not exist, now if you think I am wrong, kindly prove it.

Maynman:

You wear clothes because society said so.


When you fart what is the purpose?
When it rains, what is the purpose?
What is the purpose of so many stars?
Nature is by itself.

Maynman:

Even the word "supernatural" has religion connotations, everything you know about "supernatural", all the words you use to explain it comes from religion.

How can you prove what does not exist does not exist?
Where are you going to start from?

Maynman:

The purpose of life is life itself, it doesn't have any other purpose.
I ask yesterday, what is the purpose of rain?

Nature means by itself, nature is not a ceramic that was created.

correctguy101:



Exactly what this daddy is saying is it's all natural. Lack of information or means doesn't qualify anything as otherwise. As long as it's permitted and observed by any one in the natural world. No matter the form of perception.

Oh, maybe it does, until there's a later enlightenment and new infos are found and understood.

It's all good.

jaephoenix:

You dream because your brain says so. When you sleep some part of your brain like RAS(Reticular Activating System) switches off and some other parts take over

jaephoenix:

So to you, anything unknown automatically becomes supernatural?

Maynman:

Even the word "supernatural" has religion connotations, everything you know about "supernatural", all the words you use to explain it comes from religion.

How can you prove what does not exist does not exist?
Where are you going to start from?

jaephoenix:

This is just like a theist saying “prove to me there is no god" which is a bullshit question. He who alleges must provide evidence. And what idea of supernatural is outside religion?
It looks like your scientific knowledge is poor. For you to insinuate that dreams, sleep, gravity etc are supernatural suggests how much knowledge you lack

jaephoenix:

Ok. We're getting warm. So you have no evidence that I'm beside you spiritually. So you don't know. Do you believe that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world? And he did it in just 2 minutes?

jaephoenix:

Ok. We're getting warm. So you have no evidence that I'm beside you spiritually. So you don't know. Do you believe that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world? And he did it in just 2 minutes?

jaephoenix:

Are you aware rain, thunder, flood, sickle cell disease, Infertility etc were at one point attributed to supernatural causes?

jaephoenix:

Do you lack appropriate information to reject the fact that I'm sitting beside you now?

jaephoenix:

So to you, anything unknown automatically becomes supernatural?

correctguy101:


This same lack of appropriate information should still tell anyone otherwise.

I'm not on any of both sides as it is.

I'm just saying whatever one thinks is supernatural is simply because of this same lack of information about the principles involved. And that, once one acquires any sort of understanding of this principles and processes, no matter how minuscule, the supernatural crosses to the other side of one's perception and becomes "something natural".

One example is a demon called salmonella typhi .. You know, this demon was once seen as the handiwork of spirits being unhappy with so and so. Or a sickness due to offending some deity. Many disease causing microbes were once seen like that; demons. But today, that's no longer the case.
We now understand many of these microbes to an extent that we can never ascribe anything spiritual or supernatural to them.

So, like I said earlier, the word in itself is a show of lack of understanding of principles and processes involved, nothing supernatural or spiritual, just natural and an ignorant observer, with a lack of enough and required information.

Well, that's how I see the matter. You could hold a different view and funny thing is we could both be right about it all or even wrong...

Smh