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Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:09pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Research. How else would they know
So, NASA told you it happened billions of years? What proofs did they carry out that make it that time? How can you tell me about things that happened billions of years with no eye witnesses and the rest. And you believed Smh!!!
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 3:55pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Looks like your ignorance extends to definitions too. Who is an atheist?
What is your view about existence of god
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 3:46pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Formation. When the solar system settled into its current layout about 4.5 billion years ago, Earth formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. Like its fellow terrestrial planets, Earth has a central core, a rocky mantle, and a solid crust.[i][/i]
From NASA
All these knowledge is in public purview. It's not hidden. Why you choose not to know and decide to tag it supernatural, I would never know

Well, you see, NASA was probably was there when the universe they had a special deal on 'Planets of the Solar System.'. How did NASA know about this?
grin grin
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 3:23pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

What is logical, saying Jaephoenix isn't sitting on your shoulder OR I dont know if Jaephoenix is sitting on my shoulder? Please answer
I think this is your alternate account. Some atheists conclusion that there is no god(s) is not logical. It's important to understand that the absence of evidence for something doesn't necessarily prove its nonexistence. Well, if I may ask, what category of atheism are you?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 12:11am On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:


Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?


You're still a students, I presumed. I don't think I would want to talk with you back and forward. Go through my posts and provide answers to those questions. Please don't quote me again until you do so. I don't do half bake knowledge grin grin If you can't answer them tell me straight otherwise I might note reply after this. Good night!!! Lecture ends cheesy grin
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 12:04am On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Define "atheism"

I think that's where your ignorance started and you said you were once an atheist or is it just a lie to promote your supernatural beliefs while hiding under agnosticism.
Can you provide answers to some of the questions I asked and i would reply you concerning, "definition of atheism".
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 12:00am On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

This is illogical, Names don't exist, what's the shape of the name "bayo"?


Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?
On what contexts This is fallacy of comparison!!!
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:58pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Define "atheism"

I have asked so many times lol
What can you describe about your atheism?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:56pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
Prove we don't have proof that Gods exist.

If you lack knowledge, don't extend it to others.

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?
On what context are you saying Tom and Jerry does not exist. Is it name Tom and Jerry or cat and rats name Tom and Jerry? They may exists depending on the contexts.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:53pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Then you need to find another phrase to define your beliefs.
Agnosticism was coined by huxley and he has define it.
Period!
Are you part of atheist that says there is no god??
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:50pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Scientists don't deal with beliefs you will know that if you know what "atheism" is.

Do you have enough evidence to reject tom and jerry exist?
Are you Agnostic about it too?
I am saying we don't have proof to reject existence of gods? Or do you have proofs?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:48pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Theism deals with belief and faith.
Everything about gods is from religious books.

It perfectly captures theist sympathizers calling themselves Agnostic.
The definition is from the person that coined the word.
I am describing our views but you're rejecting. His views is not same as mine. Period!!!
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:45pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
prove we don't have enough evidence.
If you lack knowledge on something, keep it to yourself, don't try to extend your ignorance to other people.

Think, if this god created life that means he is lifeless lol
And how can a lifeless thing create that which has life?
Does your scientists claim they have evidence to reject existence of gods?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:40pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

The definition is from the person that coined the word "agnosticism", I don't think you even know him, you are just carrying the title and forming definitions lol.

It is also worth mentioning that, even in Huxley’s time, some apophatic theists embraced the term “agnostic”, claiming that all good Christians worshipped an “unknown God”.
Why should gods want me to worship its/him/her? What facts says we should worship gods outside the Religious Book. The definition doesn't capture majority of agnostic.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:33pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Agnostics are theist sympathizers, how do you know there is no enough evidence?

Agnostic are dogmatic, you have already accepted the position that Gods exist.
What if I tell you we don't have enough facts to rejects or accept But there is more facts to accept than to reject. We don't have enough facts because we lack in capacity to know. Have you been able to give me full evidence about how life started with facts?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:27pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
I call agnostics, theist sympathizers.

"Nowadays, the term “agnostic” is often used (when the issue is God’s existence) to refer to those who follow the recommendation expressed in the conclusion of Huxley’s argument: an agnostic is a person who has entertained the proposition that there is a God but believes neither that it is true nor that it is false.
I have given what best described us. Not the one you put up here.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:23pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

How do you know those gods don't need your beliefs, is that not another belief in itself.

Again, an agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.
I have given you one of the points for agnosticism. We don't have enough knowledge to reject gods existence or any related stuffs. It's not a belief system because we are not dogmatic about views. We don't take science as the only authority in our views. We don't know all about our universe. We seek to know more.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:04pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

What do you understand by "atheism"?

An agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.
Agnostic means you lack knowledge, the opposite is Gnostic which is more reasonable.
Let me put this straight to that:

Agnostics does not have believe in any known gods because those gods does not need our believe; But we do not claim certainty about their nonexistence because we don't have enough facts to rejects its existence.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:49pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Go look up scientists that are vast in it for enlightenment.
Tell me about your findings that made you change your views to atheism. Is it the Abrahamic Religion? Is it those Scriptures contradictions or illogical concept of hellfire?? grin grin But there are more to this Don't just limit your knowledge to atheism. It is more logical to be agnostic than atheism.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:36pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B.

When you were an atheist, wat did you believe cheesy
State second law of thermodynamic. And I would explain how class A extends B from it.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:32pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

This is illiteracy, I should explain how earth form on nairaland,do you think it is a groudnut discussion 😂
The formation of the Earth is a fascinating area of study in planetary science and cosmology. Scientists have developed well-supported theories and hypotheses about Earth's formation based on extensive research and evidence. And you can still give your view in a summarized way on how earth is formed.
I[b] don't know[/b], so throw more enlightenment on it.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:21pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Atheism means belief in no god. Which translates to no demons, spirits, etc. Atheism doesn't approve any philosophy. Many atheists hold differing philosophies. Maybe you'll have to explain the specific philosophies.
And I defo don't know about any ethics. We aint an organization
But do you know it takes a belief system to actually disbelieved and still keeps to it?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:13pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

When you were an atheist did you believe in the law of thermodynamics?

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest. most noble prize winners are theist.

You are empty theist.
How does the Earth form? Give your theory or you don't have any
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:09pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

When you were an atheist did you believe in the law of thermodynamics?

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest. most noble prize winners are theist.

You are empty theist.
Let take you into programming; Did you know about inheritance in java? For example class A extends class B, we can say that A is B. Therefore the law of thermodynamic is one of the rules of nature. Prove it that it's not
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:04pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Like we keep on pointing out. Some phenomena were said to be supernatural years ago but these days are natural. Like lightning, epidemics etc. Science has a way of getting the answers to these supernatural questions as they develop more tools for research. Give it time and science fixes it

Don't you think in the future,scientists cannot still get origin of life on Earth?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 9:57pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
where did you get this definition?
Second law of thermodynamics is just an observation of nature by an observer, nature does not obey the law of thermodynamics.
Very good contradiction about your beliefs system. That means you don't believed in the law of thermodynamic I thought science holds basis of atheistic views. It seems now you're saying otherwise.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 9:51pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

No. Many atheists have their own worldviews. However many atheists are humanists that is always be good to the next person
Humanism is a philosophical view bro
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 9:43pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Define physical laws.
Physical laws are rules that describe the behavior of the physical universe. For example the Second Law of Thermodynamics

I don't think you have idea of why you become atheist. You could not even give answers to some simple questions been asked. Are you doing follow follow just like one-eyed man leading the blind I was once an atheist before I changed my perspective. Atheism doesn't make you more woke than others. The world or universe is complex, see it in different angles yourself. Do you know scientists has limited knowledge about what goes on under the ocean or waters?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 7:32pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Ok. I agree science has answers to some phenomena. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Maybe because it doesn't have the knowledge or equipment to tackle it. So do you think science should do more to address the supernatural? If you do, then you have to define 'supernatural'. Because what is supernatural today may be natural in 50 years
Then let wait till that 50 years when it would become natural. We can simply call it now beyond science or supernatural

What if in 50 years time scientists actually said some phenomena is supernatural? What would you do?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 7:25pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Atheism means belief in no god. Which translates to no demons, spirits, etc. Atheism doesn't approve any philosophy. Many atheists hold differing philosophies. Maybe you'll have to explain the specific philosophies.
And I defo don't know about any ethics. We aint an organization
Don't atheists have philosophy on how to be good? Yes or No?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:46pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

You don't need to be a Christian to be a theist sympathizer. You're one step away from being a Christian
Facts is never only opinions of any belief systems. This does not make me a theist. Try to know the truth about not only religion but also in world. The world or universe cannot just be explained with scientific proofs alone. Did you know about quantum physics

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Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:30pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

How do you know a designed natural world. Do you have a perfect model u can compare as a control?
You supplied a dumb response. You're more ignorant than I thought
Check the question that was asked. See your reply!!!

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