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Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 12:58pm On Sep 18, 2023
KnownUnknown:


The “laws” of nature are descriptive not prescriptive. They are not akin to legal law formulated by humans. The “laws of nature” are descriptions of how the world functions not how it’s designed to function. That’s why the laws of physics “breakdown” at the quantum level.

Please explain to me the existence of humans. Do not deviate from the op position.
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 12:44pm On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:


LoLz. Nice attempt to shift the burden of proof to me. You are the one making the claim that they are evidence of a creation so it is up to you to supply the proof that they are.

Natural creations that include mountains, ecosystems, and even living organisms; Are this not evidence of creation to you? Or Are these not natural creations?

You said creation didn't exist! Are you kidding yourself or someone else?
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 12:37pm On Sep 18, 2023
KnownUnknown:


What first human?
What evidence of creations?
Point out any natural thing that’s in the process of being “created”.

Maybe you have any in the process of being created. We can all see the trees, humans and many more are creations. So what are you saying?
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 12:31pm On Sep 18, 2023
KnownUnknown:


The “laws” of nature are descriptive not prescriptive. They are not akin to legal law formulated by humans. The “laws of nature” are descriptions of how the world functions not how it’s designed to function. That’s why the laws of physics “breakdown” at the quantum level.


Example of nature is Human. Do you agree nature exists? YES [/b]OR [b]NO
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 12:21pm On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:


LoLz. Nice attempt to shift the burden of proof to me. You are the one making the claim that they are evidence of a creation so it is up to you to supply the proof that they are.
Is Earth nature?
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 11:25am On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:


They are not evidence of a creation.
do you have any proof that nature and its laws are not creations?
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 11:15am On Sep 18, 2023
KnownUnknown:


What evidence of creations?
The first human is an example of a creation
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 11:11am On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:


What is the evidence?
Nature and its laws

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Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 10:51am On Sep 18, 2023
Wilgrea7:


why THE creator? why not the creators? when you say creator, what are you referring to, and how is it different from a god? I'd like to know so i understand what you mean
My bad! I used THE creator in a general term
to be any infinite creators or singular creator. Well, I don't have evidence if it's singular creator or infinite. My stand still remain that we have evidence of creations.
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 10:38am On Sep 18, 2023
danielistics:


So the world started 5000 years ago?
We don't know otherwise you can tell us when it all started. Does origin of the world started billions of years ago? What proof to show for this.
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 10:34am On Sep 18, 2023
Wilgrea7:
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In regard to the origin of consciousness, cosmic evolution and so on, the anticlimactic answer is simply that we don't know.. and we don't claim to.

These are questions no one quite knows the answer to yet. While people have tried to plug several things like god/gods into the equation, they've failed to provide any evidence of such.

And although we search for the answers to these questions, we simply haven't found them yet.. so we simply don't know
The creator should be rightly used instead of god or gods. It is highly not logical to just hastily conclude while seeing evidence of creations.
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 10:20am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

Any evidence of this creator? His or their names? How did it/they pop up? Who was his/their creator? etc
The evidence of a creator is in the creation, except you would tell me creation can exist without a creator. Nature and its laws are its evidence we cannot just reject. Can you address the subject of discussion?

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Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 10:07am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

Explain more on this your 'consciousness' , then I would answer you
Consciousness is a state of awareness of one's surroundings and inner thoughts, but goes beyond just be awake.
Religion / Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 9:21pm On Sep 17, 2023
sonmvayina:


I suppose there is a scientific explanation for it ..

If none, then it is the creator..

Why should I reject the existence of a creator since there is more evidence to accept its existence than not? No scientist has claimed he or she created any natural laws or nature. They can always deceive themselves. Let's hear from atheists about the existence of human consciousness. They may have scientific explanations.

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Religion / How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 7:25pm On Sep 17, 2023
How do atheists explain the origin of consciousness in the universe, and what are their views on the human existence and cosmic evolution?

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Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 7:03pm On Sep 17, 2023
What if I tell you almost everything you believed in atheism is a lie? Your beliefs are mostly based on what you have been told by science. I'm trying to check something: is the earth flat or spherical? You would ignorantly say it's spherical. Your definition of supernatural is only to make mockery of religious people, whereas it's beyond that for a non-religious person like myself. 


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Religion / Re: Exploring The Supernatural: Embracing The Mystery by gisevak: 11:02pm On Sep 10, 2023
[b]Reincarnated person (ákùdáyá); [/b]I have had second hand knowledge of akudaya. My wife's father narrated how his friend's son, who died, came back after being buried for a long time. This event happened in one of the south-west state. This is a true life story. And I think others have similar stories.
Religion / Exploring The Supernatural: Embracing The Mystery by gisevak: 10:33pm On Sep 10, 2023
Ladies and gentlemen, esteemed guests, and fellow seekers of knowledge

The supernatural has fascinated humanity since time immemorial. It encompasses a vast and enigmatic domain filled with stories of gods and goddesses, spirits, miracles, and unexplained phenomena. It is a place where the laws of nature seem to bend, where the ordinary meets the extraordinary.

We should not let our fascination with the supernatural blind us to the importance of empirical evidence and critical inquiry. We recognize that while the supernatural may ignite our imaginations, it remains elusive when scrutinized through the lens of science and reason. It is, in essence, a realm beyond the grasp of the scientific method.

Let us engage in dialogue that seek to bridge the gaps between believers,atheists, skeptics, and agnostics. The Goals is here is the truth.

Let us share some of our fascinating supernatural experience.

What are your observations? And not what you're told in any books(Bible, Qur'an, Science, etc)

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Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 6:28pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

what kind of an agnostic are you.


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You have not answered my questions. My agnostic type has no label but can be described as; One does not have believe in any known gods because those gods does not need our believe. And one that do not claim certainty about their nonexistence because we don't have enough facts to rejects its existence. I won't reply you again if you don't answer my questions.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 6:21pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Do you know atheist view than them
It's my personal view and not worldwide.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 6:19pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

What type of atheism are you? Is evolution of humans real
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 6:14pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Agnosticism is a BELIEF, all dictionaries says so even Huxley said
"Nowadays, the term “agnostic” is often used (when the issue is God’s existence) to refer to those who follow the recommendation expressed in the conclusion of Huxley’s argument: an agnostic is a person who has entertained the proposition that there is a God but believes neither that it is true nor that it is false."
Do you know my view more than me
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 6:10pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

A belief system needs a belief different from absence of any belief.
Explain this clearly
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 6:08pm On Sep 10, 2023
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Theist, we can now see your ignorance in full glare hiding under religion yet pretending.
"grin
I asked you a more simple question, why do rain fall. And you became empty. you are desperate for anything"supernatural", instead of you to use your brain to solve a problem you call it "supernatural".

You were never an atheist, you lack the definition of what atheism is.

Scientists are humans like you, using their brain to know more about nature and not settling for beliefs in the name of supernatural, you are just there to castigate scientist and call what you lack knowledge on "supernatural".], after you call it "supernatural' you stop thinking, that's why europeans are different from africans.[/quits]

The supernatural refers to phenomena, events, or forces that cannot be readily explained by natural laws, scientific principles, or empirical observations. It suggests a realm or dimension that lies outside the scope of our current understanding. Well, I didn't say you should thinking. I have always lay emphasis on how supernatural definition is wide. You shouldn't choose the definition that suit you. You points on supernatural has been on religion.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 5:50pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Yes, it is. And some atheists hold that view. Some theists hold the view too. So its not strictly atheistic purview. You'll yourself have philosophical views. Every human has his or hers

Atheism is primarily characterized by the absence of belief in deities, it can be considered a belief system in the sense that it provides a framework for understanding the world, shaping values, and guiding behavior, similar to how religious belief systems operate.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 5:22pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?

While I understand your point, agnosticism is about acknowledging the limits of human knowledge and being open to the possibility of things we cannot definitively prove or disprove. In the case of Tom and Jerry, they are fictional cartoon characters, and there's no empirical evidence to suggest they exist in the physical world. However, the concept of existence can vary depending on context, belief, or interpretation. Agnosticism doesn't necessarily claim absolute proof of non-existence but rather maintains an open stance, emphasizing the need for empirical evidence when discussing the existence of entities in the material universe.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 5:11pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

"Physical laws' is just rambling you form from religion, next thing Is "spiritual law" loll
Scroll up a bit you will see the questions that I have been asking you even before the tom and jerry question, answer them all.

I said pick one question from mine and answer. And I would do same to yours. Do you agree?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 5:02pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

If you make statements that you just formed up you have to provide evidence for where you get it like "physical laws' those are not questions.

And with that, just stroll the post up you will see my question of tom and jerry and other questions.
Physical laws are questions. Ask your question again on Tom and Jerry. And I would reply you
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:55pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Have you answered mine?
OK, let us do it this way; You ask your question, I answered. And I ask you questions, you answered too. Is that OK by you?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:50pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Learn the difference between non Belief and Disbelief, then you will know what Atheism is.
You were born with no beliefs
Have you answered my questions?
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:42pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Looks like your ignorance extends to definitions too. Who is an atheist?

What changed your mind to become an atheist? Or you probably were atheist from day one till now? Maybe I could change into atheism.
Religion / Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:16pm On Sep 10, 2023
What is your type of atheism?
jaephoenix:

E be like your brain dey pain you. Have you checked out both profiles before jumping into your stupid conclusion?
Don't you build good characters or morality? Why insults? You're taking it too serious.

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