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gohf:
Rom.3.23 For all have sinned; all fall short of God's glorious standard.

1John.1.7 - 10
But if we are living in the light of God's presence, just as Christ is, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, cleanses us from every sin.
If we say we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and refusing to accept the truth. But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us from every wrong.
If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling God a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts.

Jas.5.16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

Jas.3.2 We all make many mistakes, but those who control their tongues can also control themselves in every other way.

Jas.5.19 - 20
My dear brothers and sisters, if anyone among you wanders away from the truth and is brought back again, you can be sure that the one who brings that person back will save that sinner from death and bring about the forgiveness of many sins.


And finally Jesus said in Matt.18.15 - 17
"If another believer sins against you, go privately and point out the fault. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back. But if you are unsuccessful, take one or two others with you and go back again, so that everything you say may be confirmed by two or three witnesses. If that person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. If the church decides you are right, but the other person won't accept it, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector.

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You're still using the same verses to support the warped theology

The Bible was pieced together through POLITICS AND POWER

gohf:
Many things here are wrong and based on wrong narrative

God did not sacrifice Jesus or his son, Jesus gave his life, he gave himself same thing children of God are expected to do, offer yourself as a living sacrifice totally obedient to God even to death.

Secondly, the blood isn't meant for God but for us to cleanse ourselves from sin, the blood was shed on earth it wasn't shed not sent to heaven.

thirdly the blood doesn't remove sins nor the consequences of sins from everyone only those who come to God with a repentant heart. That's why two were crucified beside Jesus but only one received the promise of the kingdom of God

Which sin are we cleansing ourselves from?

Let the person who committed the sin ask for forgiveness

So, after the blood, does it mean that humans are no longer sinning?

That theology doesn't make any sense abd Christiandom will continue to struggle with it since they created it after the Nicene conference

Imagine that kind of awkward theology coming from African traditional religion? One God being split into 3. God being born. God dying. God resurrecting. God killing himself.

NOETHNICITY:
God almighty the creator of the universe cannot be in human form. The human form has limitation that cannot be attributed to God and it is against His nature.

The same God who prevented Abraham from using his son as a sacrifice later decided to use His own "son" as a conditional sacrifice?

He sacrificed the son to Himself. He shed His own blood for Himself to accept.

Even with the sacrifice with conditions, sins still exist.

Meanwhile, Satan was spared...

AntiChristian:
How can God come in human form to die?

This is out of sense!

A God that dies is an anomaly!

A God that has three distinct persons is an anomaly!

God should be indivisibly one and eternal!

A God that passed through the birth canal of a woman and suckled the mammary glands of a woman

Oh my God!

It's disrespectful to the majesty of God to think that the omnipotent God could not get something done unless he had to descend into a lowly human form.

Up till today, it doesn't make sense in the older Judaism.

Such a thinking was concocted by Trinitarians and is not part of any statement directly credited to Jesus in the canonical gospels.

Of course the gospel of John and the writings of Paul are another matter entirely

Having split God into three, I don't know why Christianity is still being described as a monotheistic religion. It is a polytheistic religion

SarkinYarki:
That can't be true , Senators tax is deducted at source by the govt

https://www.nairaland.com/5183059/firs-efcc-dino-melayes-cars

How did he come about this?

SarkinYarki:
I know Dino personally to a great extent so I understand what he is facing at the moment

As a sitting Senator in 2019, he reportedly declared his TOTAL ANNUAL INCOME as N1,258,334 (N1.2m) and allegedly paid N85,000 as Personal Income Tax.

What do you have to say about this?

SarkinYarki:
You are the ignorant person saying he has been flaunting material things ...Dino is unemployed for now and his income is zero , he lives of his portfolio and any gain on them is charged at source ...Some of the cars you are jealous about are over 10 years old in that house for your info and he has since paid every Personal income tax due to government when he was still employed

You speak like you have a copy of his records

Right?

SarkinYarki:
I am also a trained accountant so I know what I am saying , from the article its clear the mean personal income tax , if it was CIT they wouldn't be writing him directly, if it was capita gains tax they will be writing to the custodians of his portfolio, if its VAT he cant owe VAT .

This clearly political mischief and pressure being applied

Yes, it's income tax

OSUNADC:
Trust broken especially by people in governance and people of authority can hardly be fixed by discerning minds. Also he who come to equity must come with clean hands.

How do you explain that Tinubu's Alphabeta was collecting taxes,levies on behalf of the government in Lagos and other states within his grip while he held sway as the Emperor of Lagos, isn't that conflict of interest?

Working countries and society place their government in a position of trust and when the trust is missing or leaking, like it is in our jurisdiction, questions, doubts and concerns will be raised about the institutions intentions especially if the citizens are not getting seeming values for their taxes. It is no rocket science.

Reason why credible and less greedy people should be at the helm of affairs.




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What question?

You were trying to politicise a technical issue. Does that make sense?

Is your coalition in support of tax evasion?

You're sounding incoherent

Bring someone else who understands the issue at hand especially income tax administration

Dalohad:
Even Agbadorianistic agberoes who have never paid a dime of Tax are supporting this clearly politically motivated witch-hunting of opposition..

All the laws and regulations they are passing is geared towards one goal- Impoverish Nigeria and beat down opposition in order to enthrone Tyranny..

Don't be scared of witch-hunting if you're not a witch

SarkinYarki:
He paid duty on all his cars when they were imported so what are you saying , so now the govt charges tax for flaunting?

Oh my God!

Are you as ignorant as this?

Import duties are the same as income tax?

Gosh!

OSUNADC:
You ignored the question mark, why?

What question?

You were trying to politicise a technical issue. Does that make sense?

Is your coalition in support of tax evasion?

Rexymania:
The government wants to force some people out of the country....or cripple them. What's this?

Some of you just like to comment on what you have no knowledge about.

Rather than keep quiet, you continue to reveal your deep ignorance

PulaPower:
If you see the way Dino Melaye displayes wealth and luxuries on TikTok, you’ll know it’s accurate..

As in, which car Dino no get? E get almost every brand of cars..

Don't mind those ignorant comments

Except he's not the owner of what he's been flaunting and he should be able to prove it

SarkinYarki:
Melaye is currently unemployed and depends on rentals and goodwill so assessing him at 274 million Naira is unjust

What an ignorant comment

Do you know his rental income? Do you know if he has other income from investments?

Is PAYE the only form of income tax?

Please let those who don't know about how INCOME TAX is assessed shut up!

Rexymania:
The government wants to force some people out of the country....or cripple them. What's this?

I don't understand citizens like you

He shouldn't pay his income tax?

Do you know his worth? Do you know the basis of assessment?

Again, I don't understand citizens like you

OSUNADC:

Vindictiveness?
Just because he decided to join the coalition? The current trend of stifling the opposition's voice is mind boggling.

Why not tell him to pay his taxes?

Why not concentrate on the issue at hand?

Why not stop all these hasty allegations?

DonFreshmoney:
Am I seeing this clearly. N274 Million as tax for a year and N234million the year before.. I will see this as computer error, that means he must be making more than 2 billion yearly for his taxes to be this high..

What percentage did you use?

ZombieDredd:
Jesus is the way, truth and Life...

NO ONE can come to His father except by Him.

if you dont believe now, you will believe when its too late

Even Jesus himself said you should simply keep the commandments and that no one is good.

Quit all these reported speeches by writers who never met Jesus and who came up with contradictory writings.

https://www.nairaland.com/8414434/how-lagos-commercial-buses-obtain/1#136595733

The above thread is still relevant

If vehicles are compulsorily checked for roadworthiness every 12 months, why are VIO officers and FRSC officers chasing motorists all over the place?

Why do they mount road blocks to check the same tyres, fire extinguishers, etc, thereby causing traffic?

Why are rickety vehicles, especially commercial buses, still on the roads?

https://www.nairaland.com/8506659/drama-motorist-confronts-vio-officers

The above story further buttresses the concern expression in this thread

If vehicles are compulsorily checked for roadworthiness every 12 months, why are VIO officers and FRSC officers chasing motorists all over the place?

Why do they mount road blocks to check the same tyres, fire extinguishers, etc, thereby causing traffic?

Why are rickety vehicles, especially commercial buses, still on the roads?

SporaD8:
Exactly!
The most outrageous part is how selective they're in the extortion business! Unruly violators in rickety vehicles are let off the hook - they know those ones are bad market.
Flashy cars and young riders are their major target.

They usually target private cars. Cars with only the driver. Cars driven by ladies. Good looking cars.

They have lost the respect of people.

The modus operandi of VIO is outdated.

FRSC operates even on state roads thinking that people aren't aware of the court judgement restricting them to federal roads

Meanwhile, even with all their operations, you find danfo and commercial buses without indicators, brake lights, side mirrors, wipers, not to talk of fire extinguishers.

Lastma looks away while the same danfo drivers drive on one way

slivertongue:
What's ADC's business with the internal politicking of a party that to a large extent is out to help her?

ADC shouldn't be a meddlesome interloper but rather face her front because Nigerians are looking up to her for rescue from hopelessness.

You dey mind them?

They said election is two years away? How?!

Election will happen early 2027. That's some 15 to 16 months away.

Party primaries will happen or be concluded in about a year's time. So, when should zoning come out? One month to primaries?

This is the time for serious minded people to start planning

Yes, the government shouldn't be all about politics but, in this case, PDP isn't even in government at the federal level

This is how the confused coalition will approach election with shoddy preparation only to turn around and scream rigging

It's about 10 months or so to primaries and the coalition is yet to be sure of its members. For example, Peter is in two parties at the same time.

Later they will fail and start attacking national institutions like INEC and the judiciary. It's their trademark. Lose and cry. Lose and attack everything in sight.

If you fail to plan, you plan to fail...

Jashub:
We are talking about history ; not the idolatry you gladly kiss , so kindly stick to the topic .

And besides, Ifa divination , its mentods of consultation is not documented in any written yoruba text . Meaning: it is just oral traditions pass down through generations of idolatry and narrations.

You're wrong

There are many books on Ifa, even in English for non Yorubas like me

SmartPolician:
Honestly, I must give some credit to the west (white people) for making blacks their citizens and allowing them hold key government position.

This is something we don't even allow among ourselves here in Nigeria and I know for certain that Asians will never allow. Asian are as wicked as blacks.

Credit?

Before you give them any credit, try and see if there's a link between most of the countries who do that and their colonialism history

LIVINGICONREBOR:
The first,last and only time I patronised the ladies of the night was in the late 90s when economy never too scatter compared to now. And I must confess, it was money truly wasted. Rationally speaking there is absolutely no sense in "paying" for sex.

Exactly 💯

I don't think the men who do it are genuinely happy not to talk of the women

HeatSeeker:
You might need to broaden your knowledge of what prostitution is. Your mind is gravitating towards ladies in brothels. This thread isn't about that

You have only assumed what my knowledge is.

Why are you restricting it to physical location? I mentioned buying and selling of sex. Even at that, will the effect on the people doing it be different regardless of location?

brain54:
Having sex with someone...

Who normally wouldn't have nothing to do with you.

No feelings whatsoever. Just because of the financial or whatever benefits she would get from the 'activity' whereby if she had a choice wouldn't, seems dehumanizing to me.

Even the process of bargaining like it's a piece of meat, pizza, or wrapper one is buying is dehumanizing.

It feels almost like rape to me. That's my personal opinion!

I agree with you

It's not only dehumanizing. It's traumatizing

How many rich kids go into prostitution?

Prostitution turns the female body into a commodity, to be priced and sold for momentary pleasure. It's almost like voluntary slave trade

The average woman wants to be wooed and loved. Forget the pretenses.

I doubt if there is any prostitute who feels genuinely happy about the job. It also goes hand in hand with drugs, alcoholism and crime.

HeatSeeker:
Sex only dehumanizes once it is forced and done without consent.

Once both parties agree (even for a price) the it edifies both. The lady gets the financial empowerment she needs and the man gets the dopamine hit from orgasm he craves. Both are served and none is dehumanized.

It's not as simple as that

Buying and selling of sex is anything but dignifying.

A number of studies have established that prostitution is intrinsically traumatizing to the person being prostituted.

Also, a majority of prostitutes suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder -- the same malady that affects combat veterans and victims of sexual abuse. PTSD leads to various forms of personal dysfunction.

HeatSeeker:
Detached sex is not dehumanising. The attachments that come as a result of sex are very problematic and difficult to get rid of.

It doesn't dehumanise the woman you're buying sex from? Is it dignifying?