Sportsweb:
Officially Rodri >> Iniesta, Xavi, Busquet, Kroos

Rodri == Modric

Rodri has always been clear of Busquet. He reached an higher peak form that Busquet could only dream of.

Amigoss:
No noise pollution about Palmer ,Curtis iwinosa Jones successfully manmarked,froze ice cold and still went upfront to do the damage

That's a typical performance from Palmer against the top 4 teams without penalties. He has zero goals from open play against teams that finished in the top 4 last season. Better than Foden they said lol.

timbros:


Exactly.

And it's so painful. The Zidanes them would have been called fraud today because of GA.

Imagine someone bringing Foden name side by side with De Lima. What disrespect!

All these back and forth won't change the fact that Foden has more Champions league goals than De Lima. Blame De Lima for the disrespect.

Pep starting Grealish who hasn't scored in 2024 and Bernardo on the wings who hasn't scored in 20games is starting to annoy me. Two non threatening wingers with zero goal threats or dribbles.

airmark:


What Fraudiola couldn't do without Messi, he could do with 115 charges 'blng bling' on his neck.

You will know a lot about "charges" won't you. Where you not the nigga Coogar said was charged with rape?

airmark:


Name the court that convicted him with over 100 charges.

It must be those Fat lips of yours that convicted City.

nateevs:


Not jumping on this argument but this is bad deductive reasoning. Every player has a dedicated penalty taker for a reason. And the reason is that said player offers XG of 0.8 scoring the goal.

But statistically, this is just one player from a squad of 26. This XG does not translate to more than 1/26th of each sample size. Therefore your extrapolation is wrong.

If you are to measure approximate XG per player in each squad, average XG per squad may drop down to 0.2, making it the generally acceptable XG for penalties across the board.

Every penalty has an Xg of 0.8 without taking the penalty taker into account. Be it goalkeeper, defender or even the ball boys it remains fixed at 0.8. It's the shot in football with the highest xG. 80% of penalties result in a goal.

hensben:
That's because he deserved it last season. Palmer beat Foden in goal and assist, had more man of the match awards than him

So you are telling us Rashford was the best player in Epl last season?

Itsrm:


Doesn't make the difference you think it makes. While I made a mistake using total minutes played, foden played 2870 minutes and Palmer 2628.

Foden averaged 106 minutes per GA, Palmer 109 minutes.

By the time you even factor in all minutes played, Foden comes to 118 and Palmer 113.


But they are not even close according to you.

When you find yourself in a ditch, don't dig further

It's a good thing you accepted using fake figures. Kudos for that.

After removing penalties how does Palmer come close to Foden in performance?

hensben:
We are talking of this season you bringing under 17 like Palmer didn’t win under 21 euro championship. Are you aware Palmer is PFA fan player of the season, in other words, fans think Palmer is the best player this season.

Same way Rashford was voted last season.

BlueMann:


You people exaggerate too damn much. Palmer created more chances per game and created more big chances (17-10), played more through balls, had better take on success. How can you say that Palmer wasn't even close to Foden in terms of performance?

Foden created more chances than Palmer, created more big chances from open play, completed more take ons, more Goals and assists from open play, more layoffs, better conversion rate, more match winning goals from open play etc. The only metric Palmer trumped Foden was through balls which can be credited to the different team set up.

Itsrm:


Even if we remove penalties, 27GA vs 24 GA. One played 4,274 minutes, the other played 3, 734 minutes but they are not close to each other in terms of performance.

90 × 38 matches doesn't even get to 3500 minutes yet you have conjured fake minutes from thin air.

Amoto94:
No matter what xg tells you if you don't score xg is useless. A player composure in front of goal is more relevant than what xg says (xg no dey score goal). Those who played football in the past paid little to no attention to xg/a but they focussed on their finishing and score goals.

Stop embarrassing yourself. It's becoming obvious you know nothing. From maths to basic reasoning.

hensben:
Which mumu maths, yet some players are worse at it, including Foden.

K

hensben:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfG6AXYqSnY?si=268l-9cznHQ3vy3F

Penalty is not easy as you think. Foden shooting technique on pk is poor. The fact that Palmer do it easily doesn’t mean it is easy, it takes a lot of techniques.

Penalties are easy that's why they have an Xg is 0.8. 80 out of 100 times they go on. Am wasting my time on people arguing against basic maths.

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Your maths teacher need to be flogged.

Amoto94:

Expected earnings doesn't translate to earnings when you dont earn anything. Just because xg says that 8 out 10 times will go in if you don't score them the xg is useless. What's the xg of Kolo Muani's shot that was saved by Martinez in WC finals? XG doesnt mean anything

You are just demonstrating you have problem with maths. How do you think expected earnings will be calculated if you don't earn anything that will make you richer than Elon. xG of 0.8 already proves penalties are easy. Whatever else you are arguing has no foundation to stand on.

hensben:
But Foden is not good at it , how come.

Where have you seen Foden taking penalties.

hensben:
According to the article he was forced to use it due to injury for some games but didn’t believe in it until conte used it to win the league.

None of those articles said anything of such nature. Pep has been using a variation of 3 at the back right from his Barcelona days to Bayern. Accept you didn't know and rest.

Amoto94:

I can say according to expected earnings youre richer than Elon Musk but, the question is are you richer than Elon? Odds dont win games or score goals you have to do the job

How do you think the expected earnings will be calculated lol. Bro you are fighting with basic maths. A pk has an xG of 0.8 which means 80% out of 100 it goes earn.

Amoto94:

Forget XG a penalty scored is a good penalty xg no matter, according to xg Chelsea is supposed to be in UCL but Jackson and Sterling happened and we are set to play qualifiers against some plumbers in Eastern Europe to play Conference League.

Then you don't understand the meaning of xG.

Vischy:


They're easy yet foden is not a penalty taker.

Then,England should have been euro 2020 champions or France would have been world Cup Champions 2022.

Stupid opinions.......

Ok

Amoto94:

If penalties were that easy to convert City would have edged it against Madrid and advance to the semis. We have seen players miss penalties regardless of what XG says about them. That Foden isnt good at PK is no Palmer's fault.

Players missing an empty net doesn't mean they are not easy goals to scores. The shot with the the highest Xg in football are penalties. Since when is maths that difficult to understand.

hensben:
No they are not, if they are then every other aspect of the game is easy. Palmer beast Foden this past season, he won epl best because his team won the league.

Mr man penalties has an Xg of 0.8 which means they are a usually a guaranteed goal. Stop arguing and learn. Palmer had a brilliant season boosted by lot of penalties yet he didn't come close to Foden.

hensben:
He started playing three at the back after seeing Conte used it to win the league. Pep didn’t play three at the back while at Barca and Bayern. Why are you arguing what happened yesterday here.

You are a joker.

https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2011/9/1/2397398/fc-barcelonas-4-3-3-and-the-genius-of-pep-guardiola

https://medium.com/@christophthetactician/retro-analysis-fc-barcelonas-3-4-3-in-2011-12-b1d399b8561c


https://barcablog.com/2011/09/guardiola-returns-to-cruyffs-3-4-3.html


https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2014/8/5/5960443/pep-guardiola-bayern-munich-tactics-3-4-3-formation-lineup


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2159936-how-teams-can-stop-pep-guardiolas-3-4-3-at-bayern-munich

hensben:
But is penalty easy to score? Foden has being tested to play it and missed. Taking penalty is not for everyone, Foden is not good at it.

Penalties has an Xg of 0.8 so yes they are easy to score.

hensben:
He started using in Conte’s second season for Chelsea, he had to go even buy players suited for it. Mr you are not being truthful here.

Tell me the season Pep city played 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.

hensben:
Foden isn’t good at penalty so wasn’t trusted for it, it’s not Palmer fault that he is good at it. England lost euro due to penalty miss. You are saying it like taking penalty is not part of skill players should posses.

Palmer season was boosted by the amount of ridiculous penalties he took. Admitting that won't change anything. Foden was head and shoulders above Palmer.

hensben:
Lies. Pep played three at the back in epl as formation after Conte used it to dominate that season.

He has been using a variation of 3 at the back right from his Barcelona days. Pep has never played 3 at the back that resembles anything like Conte own at City. List the season Pep city played a 3-4-3 formation.

Amoto94:

This season in EPL has the highest goals contribution in his breakout season, had it not been for Chelsea inconsistency he would've won both Young Player and PFA POTY awards ahead of Foden. When they met this season he outshined Foden but Jackson happened

Foden has 19goals and 8 assists with zero penalties.

Palmer had 22goals and 11assists with 9 penalties. This notion that Palmer was even close to Foden in terms of performance should die a natural death.

hensben:
We are coming, we helped pep play three at the back before so it’s nothing new.

Pep has been playing a variation of 3 at the back right from his Barcelona days. Stop this forced agenda that he copied Chelsea Conte.

Leyqute:
Kobbie Mainoo MoTM

He was not even the best England player on the pitch talkless of man of the match lol. Rico Lewis is 5 times more talented, experienced and better than this Maino.