Even babies do not spit out honey, they suck it in.

Thank you sir,

A country known as fantastically corrupt internationally actually think that Chima Adichie, Abike Dabiri or anybody's letter to the USA or UK pleading for known crooks would make a difference in the dustbin.

There are Nigerians in Asia and Saudi Arabia waiting on death penalties. Adichie, Dabiri ko Buhari ni, should please for them.

We lost any sense of embarrassment. Who pleaded for Ibori and Alamsco welcomed home by big crowds?

sonature1:
Nigerian government officials are pleading for mercy for a judgement that's already concluded. If this incident happened in Nigeria, Ekweremadu would not be in jail for more than 24 hours. Nigeria is just too unserious to be considered a country.

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/320346/tinubu-must-renounce-greed-to-get-nigeria-out-of-abject-pove.html

People pursue money for different reasons. Making enough money to keep your body and soul is the first and only step for some of us. Many go beyond this to satisfy their hedonic pleasures. These could be expensive and sometimes dangerous. The pleasure one gets from sexy friends that money can buy is different from the one people get from love the rich cannot buy or the euphoria of psychedelic substances. Though we all know that there are drugs that are expensive, yet toxic and deadly.

The power gained from making money becomes a propensity to control others by ruling many for no other reasons than to bend to their whims and caprices. Acquisition of women, land and weapons to acquire more become a vicious circle. Any obstacle is set for destruction. The worst part is making more and more money out of greed as in Boesky and Michael Milken of Walls Street. It gets to the stage that not making money just for the heck of it, becomes boring. There are no specific needs but to make money like someone addicted to gambling.

Power derived from the ability to buy your way through whatever you want can be intoxicating as consuming excessive or exotic food, not necessarily for good life because they become detrimental to your health. But for a conspicuous and ostentatious show, daring others that cannot. This is what leads to oppression, violence and wars to retain the overbearing dominance of others, territories and hostile takeover of companies that can compete with you.

Take the case of Gas Flaring that Tinubu must guide against. Nigeria had objectives and goals set by both civilian and military governments. They promulgated laws and regulations ignored by International Oil companies that had the technical abilities. After kickbacks and bribes to those enacting laws and regulations, International companies simply could not make enough profit to implement and stop Gas Flaring. We do not expect those they paid kickbacks to, to punish or force them to implement the operation without profit margin. Or the case of Virgin Airlines that packed up and left when the demands for kickback overtook profit margin.

The law makers and regulators preferred to seek the service of Pa & Sons Company that had neither expertise nor equipment to convert Gas Flaring to useful Natural Gas. But the Pa & Sons Company was willing to give maximum kickbacks that the International Oil companies could not afford. Yet, Pa & Sons Companies intended to subcontract the deal from Nigeria law makers and regulators to the same International Oil companies.

Seriously, Tinubu knows that an average Nigerian is smart enough to understand what was going on. The problem is if that average Nigerian had the opportunity to be the lawyer, lawmaker and regulator to defraud their country, they would without any conscience. Fortunately or unfortunately, it is not every Nigerian that has an equal opportunity to represent the Nigerian Government.

We then wondered how a Pa & Sons Co. like P&ID could conspire with Nigerian lawyers representing the Government in Court of Law and get billions of dollars in judgment against their own country, Nigeria! Tinubu was a Senator, a Governor, Party leader leveraged one position after another before he became President-elect. It takes money and desperation not only to survive in those environments and discard opponents but to get to his desired position.

What Tinubu does with the Presidency at the peak of his career is left to be seen. It is one suspected notion that an average citizen would steal if he can get away with it but another that a man that has accumulated more money than a god would change toward a long life for peace of mind. It is a privileged position to represent the Nigerian Government as a politician or one of the cronies. You have to be lucky to come from nowhere and make it. Without money you cannot afford anything but can use terror to gain recognition.

TINUBU MUST RENOUNCE GREED TO GET NIGERIA OUT OF ABJECT POVERTY

This writer has never been a supporter of Tinubu but accepted that he won more votes in the North and South, fair and square. Regardless of our past reservations about his character, born out by the people of Lagos, his adopted state and Osun, his home state. Tinubu can still join world philanthropists that gave most, if not all their money away, after making it through some vile and dubious means. Tinubu would then restore Nigeria’s glory, taking Africa along.

Nobel Peace Prize donated by Nobel, like other capitalist venturers made their money from the spoil of wars, slavery and back breaking serfs or child labor. When we get to a certain height and age, we realize that no matter how much we make in riches, we cannot take a farthing with us. Though we might have been reckless and even enjoyed the havoc our reckless adventures had caused while making us very rich, at some point we must finally bow to the call of death.

We all get to a point in life where we come to make peace with our Being or Chi that "all the world's a stage and men and women merely players". This is not about getting into hell or heaven but leaving the world a better place than we met it and raising millions of people out of abject poverty. Indeed, it is not about the only shining beautiful house on top of the hill but how civilized and comfortable people around the hill and us are.

What matters is how our legacy is remembered by the generations to come. The "glories of our blood and state" cannot give us the quality of spirit in health or sustain us forever. Whatever the age of Tinubu, the most supporting comforts left for the rest of our life are a room with a comfortable bed and toilet in order to sleep well. The others are secondary. Even good food and wine must be limited if we do not want to choke to death out of avarice.

Therefore, whatever the Pharaohs thought about themselves, how much gold and slaves were buried with them, they became a feast for ants and the inquisition by explorers and bounty hunters. It is very disappointing that all their dreams of afterlife became the spoil of wars or the means of living for gold diggers, skull miners and mere robbers willing to navigate the stench of hundred years. Even if the children of Tinubu are put in control of his humongous wealth, Nigerians will not play dead and allow them to have a peace of mind.

The Military leaders that had the Bar Beach Show with firing squad and jailed Fela Kuti for foreign currency violation yesterday, are the money launderers and robbers of today. As long as African countries, even the poorest ones like war torn Sudan remain money making destinations for those willing to hold their breath until they make enough to live abroad, it will be difficult to convince the Youths to wallow in poverty where they cannot make a decent living. If we ask ourselves the reasons for these, they are obvious. It is not every Youth that is so desperate to get rich that would take to any crime: terror, white collar, soft or hard crime.

Source:https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/320346/tinubu-must-renounce-greed-to-get-nigeria-out-of-abject-pove.html

Which country in its right sense would create more states and local governments for every location it cannot manage with mushroom politicians that consume so much income, there is little left for development?

Yet we are still calling for more states so that every household can produce politicians while schools, hospitals and industrial estates are crowded out of existence.

Entrepreneurship becomes crime adventures because gains from crimes come faster than investment of time and money

The best or everlasting friendship you can have with a woman, is one without sex.

Una go flogi dis usurpers of Yoruba Culture die. I beggi naow.

You can fool some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

These fake Bini internet warriors have no connection to their Royal House whatever. Their only aim is to snatch Yoruba Culture at the top.

But eh, they are not the only one. They all want to be associated with the best Culture in the world.

When Yoruba wannabes cannot get facts to prove their fake imagination, they attack each other, one another and it becomes Ogiso king of the sky v. Edo.

No matter how you try, Yoruba culture and gods are still worshipped by your Royal House. They still bear Yoruba names and their linqu franca remain Yoruba dialect from the Yoruba language.

You guys are fun to watch as you dance naked in the market.

I love this. There is now a fight between Edo and Ogiso, Bini ruler of the sky 😂😀

Ogiso were collaborators with Yoruba and British.

Abeg, this is now comical. Laff wan kill me.

Christistruth03,

I had said it many times that it is a waste of time arguing with these usurpers of Yoruba glories.

But that was the mistake we made in the past when Pro. Ade Ajayi ignored them despite Prof. Peter Ekeh, an Urhobo dismantling their bogus claims.

It was a Yoruba Oba of Bini who felt disrespected in classification among his brothers at Ife meeting that gave live to their adsorbed claims. He even labeled the foremost Edo historian as having Yoruba mother, a lie!

If they were looking for Ekhalehan or whatever, they know where he was at Ugoton but would not dare face his protectors there. Ife was where they placed him. Imagine a Yoruba Oba of Bini trying to disparage a full Edo historian with Yoruba mother!

The guy you are arguing with never believed accurate history can come out of Africa. He is so ignorant, he does not know who taught the Europeans how to read and write or where alphabet or pictorial writings started. So anything not told or written by Europeans does not exist.

The same Europeans that whitewashed African history, paint Egypt white and Mesopotamia the sole creation of whites before 15 Century classification into colors to divide serfs, workers and freed slaves.

But for the laborious and selfless re-discovery of Anta Diop and many others, these Bini or Edo usurpers would be glad being fed in Exhibition cages all over Europe and Americas.

Thanks for taking the time to educate us.

Christistruth03:



In other words your own Ancestors from whom you descended didn’t exist in the 12th Century because there were no written records to prove or confirm their existence

Therefore according to you they didn’t exist

Do you now see why I didn’t want to waste time arguing with you

Ethnic rivalry is tearing us apart, so much that we cannot even accept African achievement as genuine enough unless it is accepted by Europeans that destroyed the same civilization in the first place.

The self hate and inferiority complex is deep. The same way some of us think it is Afrocentric to expose Sudan Rule in Egypt.

Land grabbers in their wild imagination will never give up. The presentation made to the Privy Council as far back as 1921, was clear.

About 1790 Lagos was successfully invaded by the neighboring Benins. [b]They did not remain in occupation [/b]but left a representative as ruler whose title was the Eleko.

The only connection Bini Oba, a Yoruba dynasty that overthrew the wicked Ogiso had with Eko, was giving his daughter to Ashipa the First King of Eko. Some called him Eleko, others called him Olofin. Whatever you called Ashipa, he was the truce King of Lagos that married the daughter of another Yoruba king that conquered Bini after brutal Ogiso King killed a pregnant woman and others like the Urhobo, Itshekiri, Onitcha etc ran away despite the wall to keep them in

The rhetorical question about Oyo Empire means that some people think Oyo only come into existence during the Empire.

Oyo was the same as Yoruba, Anago, Olukumi etc found along West Africa and Americas with different names.

How can anyone ask for proof that Oyo or Yoruba occupy Eko, their land before anyone else?

What a question.

Una, this Election na wah o. There is a guy that opens a new thread at off hours almost daily to expose his pitiable condition against this site.

I was thinking he should be ignored but for his own sake, I think mental hospitals should start taking some patients in again instead of treating them as outpatient.

Otherwise, some of these guy will start biting people on the streets or worse.

It all boils down to colo-mentality. It is reflected in our names, religions and exotic cultures.

They captured us as slaves, put us in plantations and named those plantations as countries after themselves.

They even called themselves Saints to be worshipped.

Now, we laundered whatever we make back to them. The first good money most Youths make, they ask which country abroad they can japa rather than starting a local business.

See hypocrites.

And we always blame our leaders

Good points.

But "Whites" cannot have it both ways. People around that area were mixed blood that were never considered themselves white or black until arbitrary designation of serfs, slaves and other poor people as white to divide and rule people. They never considered themselves as white or Black but we're so designated to give supervisory role or privileged supervisors of workers in the fields or plantations.

They introduced the "One Drop" rule against others and their own children from raped Black women that they sold indifferently into slavery.

So, Netflix is right to color Cleopatra and many have done the same with Jesus based on the mixed areas they come from.

Even Southern Italians and their descendants today are darker than some Africans.

RedboneSmith:
Egyptians are a tad too touchy about this race thing though. This was how they blew a gasket when Louis Gossett Jr, a black American actor played Anwar Sadat. And then again when they lost their minds and wanted to boycott Kevin Hart's show because Kevin had said in the past that Ancient Egypt was black.

Oddly enough, they never say anything when pasty-white Europeans play Ancient Egyptians. Only when black people do so.

But with that said, Cleopatra probably looked nothing like that woman who played her on the Netflix show. She came from a long line of Macedonian (and therefore European) ancestry. Even if we concede that her mother was a native (and therefore brown) Egyptian, she would have still come out looking a lot more Caucasian than that actor.

Great.
Congratulations.

Do we have the dedication and will for the proper maintenance?

Atiku has problems entering USA without special permission

Tinubu cannot enter USA without special permission

Obi cannot enter UK and many Asian countries without special permission

Nigerians know it and still voted for them.

Are the people out problems or the leaders we choose to elect?

Judgment
Supreme court
1921
Amodu Tijani v the Secretary, Southern Provinces () [1921] NGSC 1 (11 July 1921);
Court name
Supreme Court
Amodu Tijani v the Secretary, Southern Provinces () [1921] NGSC 1 (11 July 1921);
Law report citations
Media neutral citation
[1921] NGSC 1
The Judicial Committee

His Majesty's Privy Council

Monday, the 11th day of July 1921

Between

Amodu Tijani ....... Appellant

And

The Secretary, Southern Provinces ....... Respondent

Judgment of the Court
Delivered by

Viscount Haldane

In this case the question raised is as to the basis for calculation of the compensation payable to the appellant, who claims for the taking by the Government of the Colony of Southern Nigeria of certain land for public purpose. There was a preliminary point as to whether the terms of the Public Lands Ordinance of the Colony do not make the decision of its Supreme Court on such a question final. As to this it is sufficient to say that the terms of the Ordinance did not preclude the exercise which has been made of the Prerogative of the Crown to give special leave to bring this appeal.

The Public Lands Ordinance of 1903 of the Colony provides that the Governor may take any lands required for public purposes for an estate in fee simple or for a less estate, on paying compensation to be agreed on or determined by the Supreme Court of the Colony. The Governor is to give notice to all the persons interested in the land, or to the persons authorised by the Ordinance to sell. and convey it. Where the land required is the property of a native community, the Head Chief of the community may sell and convey it in fee simple, any native law or custom to the contrary notwithstanding. There is to be no compensation for land unoccupied unless it is proved that, for at least six months during the ten years preceding any notice, certain kinds of beneficial use have been made of it. In other cases the Court is to assess the compensation according to the value at the time when the notice was served, inclusive of damage done by severance. Prima facie, the persons in possession, as if owners, are to be deemed entitled. Generally speaking, the Governor may pay the compensation in accordance with the direction of the Court, but where any consideration or compensation is paid to a Head Chief in respect of any land, the property of a native community, such consideration or compensation is to be distributed by him among the members of the community or applied or used for their benefit in such proportions and manner as the Native Council of the District in which the land is situated, determines with the sanction of the Governor.

The land in question is at Apapa, on the mainland and within the Colony. The appellant is the Head Chief of the Oluwa family or community, and is one of the Idejos or landowning white cap chiefs of Lagos and the land is occupied by persons some of whom pay rent or tribute to him. Apart from any family or private land which the Chief may possess or may have allotted to members of his own family, he has in a representative or official capacity control by custom over the tracts within his Chieftaincy, including, as Chief Justice Speed points out in his judgment in this case, power of allotment and of exacting a small tribute or rent in acknowledgment of his position as Head. But when in the present proceedings he claimed for the whole value of the land in question, as being land which he was empowered by the Ordinance to sell, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court held that, although he had a right which must be recognised and paid for, this right was:

" merely a seigneurial right giving the holder ordinary rights of control and management of the land in accordance with the well-known principles of native law and custom, including the right to receive payment of the nominal rent or tribute payable by the occupiers, and that compensation should be calculated on that basis, and not on the basis of absolute ownership of the land."

It does not appear clearly from the judgment of the Chief Justice whether he thought that the members of the community had any independent right to compensation, or whether the Crown was entitled to appropriate the land without more.

The appellant, on the other hand, contended that, although his claim was, as appears from the statement of his advocate, restricted to one in a representative capacity, it extended to the full value of the family properly and community land vested in him as Chief, for the latter of which he claimed to be entitled to be dealt with under the terms of the Ordinance in the capacity of representing his community and its full title of occupation.

The question which their Lordships have to decide is which of these views is the true one. In order to answer the question, it is necessary to consider, in the first place the real character of the native title to the land.

Their Lordships make the preliminary observation that in interpreting the native title to land, not only in Southern Nigeria, but other parts of the British Empire, much caution is essential. There is a tendency, operating at times unconsciously, to render that title conceptually in terms which are appropriate only to systems which have grown up under English law. But this tendency has to be held in check closely. As a rule, in the various systems of native jurisprudence throughout the Empire, there is no such full division between property and possession as English lawyers are familiar with. A very usual form of native title is that of a usufructuary right, which is a mere qualification of or burden on the radical or final title of the Sovereign where that exists. In such cases the title of the Sovereign is a pure legal estate, to which beneficial rights mayor may not be attached. But this estate is qualified by a right of beneficial user which may not assume definite forms analogous to estates, or may, where it has assumed these, have derived them from the intrusion of the mere analogy of English jurisprudence. Their Lordships have elsewhere explained principles of this kind in connection with the Indian title to reserve lands in Canada. But the Indian title in Canada affords by no means the only illustration of the necessity for getting rid of the assumption that the ownership of land naturally breaks itself up into estates, conceived as creatures of inherent legal principle. Even where an estate in fee is definitely recognised as the most comprehensive estate in land which the law recognises, it does not follow that outside England it admits of being broken up. In Scotland a life estate imports no freehold title, but is simply, in contemplation of Scottish law, a burden on a right of full property that cannot be split up. In India much the same principle applies. The division of the fee into successive and independent incorporeal rights of property conceived as existing separately from the possession, is unknown. In India, as in Southern Nigeria, there is yet another feature of the fundamental nature of the title to land which must be borne in mind. The title, such as it is may not be that of the individual, as in this country it nearly always is in some form, but may be that of a community. Such a community may have the possessory title to the common enjoyment of a usufruct, with customs under which its individual members are admitted to enjoyment, and even to a right of transmitting the individual enjoyment as members by assignment inter vivos or by succession. To ascertain how far this latter development of right has progressed involves the study of the history of the particular community and its usages in each case. Abstract principles fashioned a priori are of but little assistance, and are as often as not misleading.

In the case of Lagos and the territory round it, the necessity of adopting this method of inquiry is evident. As the result of cession to the British Crown by former potentates, the radical title is now in the British Sovereign. But that title is throughout qualified by the usufructuary rights of communities, rights which, as the outcome of deliberate policy, have been respected and recognised. Even when machinery has been established for defining as far as is possible the rights of individuals by introducing Crown grants as evidence of title, such machinery has apparently not been directed to the modification of substantive rights, but rather to the definition of those already in existence and to the preservation of records of that existence.

In the instance of Lagos the character of the tenure of the land among the native communities is described by Chief Justice Rayner in the Report on Land Tenure in West Africa, which that learned Judge made in 1898, in language which their Lordships think is substantially borne out by the preponderance of authority.

" The next fact which it is important to bear in mind in order to understand the native land law is that the notion of individual ownership is quite foreign to native ideas. Land belongs to the community, the village or the family, never to the individual. All the members of the community, village or, family have an equal right to the land, but in every case the Chief or Headman of the community or village, or head of the family, has charge of the land, anti in loose mode of speech is sometimes called the owner. He is to some extent in the position of a trustee, and as such holds the land for the use of the community or family. He has control of it, and any member who wants a piece of it to cultivate or build a house upon, goes to him for it. But the land so given still remains the property of the community or family. He cannot make any important disposition of the land without consulting the elders of the community or family, and their consent must in all cases be given before a grant can be made to a stranger. This is a pure native custom along the whole length of this coast, and wherever we find, as in Lagos, individual owners, this is again due to the introduction of English ideas. But the native idea still has a firm hold on the people, and in most cases, even in Lagos, land is held by the family. This is so even in cases of land purporting to be held under Crown grants and English conveyances. The original grantee may have held as an individual owner, but on his death all his family claim an interest, which is always recognised, and thus the land becomes again family land. My experience in Lagos leads me to the conclusion that except where land has been bought by the present owner there are very few natives who are individual owners of land."

Consideration of the various documents, records and decisions, which have been brought before them in the course of the argument at the Bar, has led their Lordships to the conclusion that the view expressed by Chief Justice Rayner in the language just cited is substantially the true one. They therefore interpret paragraph 6 of the Public Lands Ordinance of 1903, which says that where lands required for public purposes are the property of a native community, " the Head Chief of such community may sell and convey the same for an estate in fee simple," as meaning that the Chief may transfer the title of the community. It follows that it is for the whole of what he so transfers that compensation has to be made. This is borne out by paragraphs 25 and 26, which provide for distribution of such compensation under the direction of the Native Council of the District, with the sanction of the Governor.

Ertugrul:

Ertugrul take your time o.

For a long time my friends let me brag say ai Sabi.

Look this is the Culture section where numerous scholastic papers have been presented. Yet this old topic has not satisfied you guys. Every week, you guys come up with different forms of queries. You were ignored for a long time and you grew wings like a butterfly.

Even your own son, an Authority on Benin history was disowned. You prefer foreigners' accounts. Those did not help you either.

Let me rest here by telling you EKO rest firmly in the hand of Yoruba including your ruling House in Bini. Your names and lingual franca cannot be disputed.

Read this for your pleasure and go to other discussions on this topic.

https://nigerialii.org/ng/judgment/supreme-court/1921/1

Bye!

Ologbo147:
corroborate your initial write up with any scholarly work . Lagos was in the firm hold of the Oba of Benin from the sixteenth century until the 19th century. And this fact is corroborated by scholarly work from A list scholars like Ryder, Bradbury etc

Most of you have been daydreaming the same way your ancestors did and died. Eko remains firmly in the hands of the Owners yesterday, today and until this generation die.

But then, so did the Europeans dreamed about Eko.

Fruitless efforts by wishful thinkers. Turn your villages into Lagos in Portugal.

Ologbo147:
Do you have any written proof that the city of Lagos was ever under Oyo,I am willing to learn (any material that also tell of the conquest of Lagos from Benin in the 17th century ?

Yes! Well before 1452 Pope Edict authorizing the capture and enslavement of Africans along West African Coast. Unless you think Spirits were living in Eko then.

Bini Oba, a Yoruba descendant was the last invaders before the British. They all failed.

Tijani Oluwa finally kicked the British out with Privy Council, highest Court in London, Order that returned Eko land to rightful owner.

https://www.modernghana.com/news/1221711/yoruba-united-nation-the-most-civilized-ethnic.html

Poor me. I was so proud of myself that I can speak Igbo because I know most of the bad words.

Until I saw this thread. I could have bet my last kobo that KEDU means good morning, noon and night.

I know how to answer too: Kedukodi!

Wait o, the girl get big boobs nah.

Soyinka nor dey waste time with ladies who take big boobs rob am.

What excuses does INEC have not to conduct Free and Fair supplementary Election all over the country?

If Obi does not win eh, wahala dey o!

Nigerians should be ashamed of the three Presidential candidates they voted for knowing each of them are drug dealers and looters.

It is now my badass is better than yours.

Obi with multiple personalities in Europe and Asia is ignored because Ms. Chinenye Ezewuzie his drug mule is forgotten in Peru jail. Circumstances leading to his father's death in drug deal ignored.

We then blame our leaders when in fact their voters encourage crime and destruction at home.

Reinaldo:
We must start by ensuring criminals are far away from leadership positions

True but there are immoral behaviors that are equally or more devastating than crime.

It all started from individual homes and villages. If we don't not know where we are going, we know where we are coming from.

Most Ethnic Nigerians have turned into Silent Majorities. Extremists emulating repulsive characters in foreign countries to justify the destruction of themselves from within are celebrating deaths and destruction of their own people.

They started this melancholy dance by laundering trillions of American dollars abroad intentionally reducing their people to abject poverty that used to be seen in Asia but never seen in this part of the world.

They graduated to killing and maiming grassroots in their own own cities, towns and villages. Yet, they celebrate and campaigned of "progress" on it for Elections and re-elections

If different Think-tanks do not come out reorienting their people from the villages first, Africa is going back to the Dark Continent in the hands of Nigerians.

I find this clarion call for Yoruba to rise up out of their abysmal failures and live up to their God given potential, sobering.

If they are the descendants of the past civilization and children of First In Africa, they must withdraw from the money race that has brought abject poverty to their country and rebuild themselves.

Very sobering.