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419forlife:
For starter neither haiti or liberia profited from hundred of years of free labor Also after america occupy haiti it was the Poorest it had Ever been in history.

After haiti won independence they paid a large independence debt over many years and could not do regular trade even at that your america had their very own embargo against haiti

So can you Imagine those hungry pilgrim with no red man to show them a proper meal? No slave labor for cotton which drove Industrialization? No one to trade the cotton to? Yet still find money to pay your British?

So these are the variables. We have to remember it was haiti who whip the white man not iran cuba or red man. Thank you

Gbam!!!

Don't mind that guy blueAgent. Stating facts to him equals blaming the whiteman.

blueAgent:
Look the main agenda behind all this black affirmative actions and black CEO is not that blacks merit it or whites have become lame. No far from that. the main issue is the Elites are using blacks as foot solider to destory whites and hence actualize their NWO agenda knowing that whites are their strongest opposition.that's why they promote interracial marriages. black man white woman. are allowing millions of migrants into Europe .promoting anti-christain values and morals.


www. http://revolutionharry..co.ke/2011/06/mass-immigration-and-new-tower-of-babel.html?m=1

What...!!! Say it ain't so... Who are the elites..

blueAgent:
Your writeups lack logic and facts.
Nigeria's exsitence is becos of white people's involument .left with all the local tribe they had no capacity to form states or nation on their own.
You say our problem is Nigeria been made up of different ethnic groups. is their any country in the world without more than one tribe or ethnic group?
55years of Idependence, over 16 years of deomocracy and yet leaders cannot promote unity,development or aleast give regional autonomy. how is it white peoples fault that Our leaders as well as fellowers lack capacity to make right decisions.are corrupt, unpatriotic,

Even US before and after their Civil war ,and war of idependence had serious meeting and congress were issues of national importance like.state of the Union,seperation of power and other issues were trashed out.
Our inability to practise true federalism,enhance growth,lower corruption,develop worldclass businesses is not becos of any whiteman's interference ,but our inability.

Soon you will tell me that white's are responsible for, that your kinsman in the village that is visting Shrine against You.

Smh....look here. There is plenty of room for us to hold ourselves responsible for our short comings. But to ignore the foundation that we are operating from is clearly dubious. Was amalgamation for our benefits...? If yes. Kindly explain, if no.. Are we still operating on such foundation.

Also kindly expand your knowledge of governance pre protectorate. So you saying they had no capacity to form states on their own is you showcasing your lack of knowledge on the subject matter.

Comparing Nigeria ethnic/history and tribal division with other countries makes no sense. You either are not aware of what is happening on ground or you're simply regurgitating old arguments. Without the whiteman involvement the north would have no business governing the south be it military or democratic. Affirmative action benefits who!?

Using the americans coming together to form a union as an example makes you a joker. Show me where the ruling class of 1914 made their voices heard before amalgamation was imposed on them.. The same america is benefitting from ideas put together in the 17-1800s. And you are here saying we should act like amalgamation never happened.

Let's not forget you're the one crying for the so called qualified whiteman that has no job because an unqualified blackman got the job because of affirmative action. What's with the double standard?

blueAgent:
Why are their no world class companies ,Cities, in Haiti and Liberia. aleast both countries were founded by freed slaves?

In regards to Haiti. They're not freed slaves get your facts right. Furthermore, how can they have world class companies when they're govern by American foreign policy, dubious american ngo's and america private companies stealing their resources with impunity.

You need to research on going havoc been committed by americans backed by American government. So you don't ask silly questions.

blueAgent:
So you think blacks are not Successful in US is becos of whites? why are blacks in Haiti , Nigeria and Liberia unsuccessful .why have they not built world class cities,Economics and businesses.aleast there are no whites to oppress them.
When they commit more crime relative to their population .who will not develope bad perception about them.
Google about this Cities Detriot,Baltimore,Chicago,Salem,Birmingham,Atlantic city all this cities are over 60% black populated cities with blacks as mayors,City councillors,city police chief e.t.c yet they all have one thing in common. high crime rates,poverty,high unempolyment,slums. e.t.c how can they rationalize this?

You are comparing apples to oranges....

These countries are heavily influenced by geopolitics. In the case of Nigeria we can see results of the creation of a quagmire. We're not supposed to be a country. Mind you we also have affirmative action too.

Meanwhile, could you give a definition of successful. I can say america is successful because she has her citizens in a welfare state. There are more white people on welfare than blacks. That's a fact you cannot deny.

Meanwhile, lets not forget that you were making a case for the whiteman in regards to affirmative action. If this law was not a problem for the whiteman why are they complaining. Now multiply that with the war on drugs on the minority communities.

In the case of the cities mentioned. We can see that they're govern by the war on drugs which provides commodities for prison which are now for profit. Also you've to look at these cities before and after the law was passed. You've to look at the complexity of this law and see how it is enforced on those communities backed by the welfare state.

Nice pictures 9jacrip... Thanks for sharing..

Anyways, in regards to upper or lower case letters. In as much as I agree with both sides of the discussion I think this is a catch 22 moment. We understand the shenanigans that those who muddle both concepts bring to such discussion.

The african mind belittles his/her heritage or traditional concepts for a "belief.

While the european mind belittes the african concepts in order to elevate his own satus.

Therefore, we know who is ignorant of a glaring fact... what can we do when they measure our collective identities by our short comings.

blueAgent:
U don't understand what i meant. if all races are equal then there will not be need for affirmative action.ones their is equal playing ground all races will have to compete among themseleves.

Hmmmm, you need to ask yourself a simple question. Why are there so many constitutional "Amendments".. What are they trying to achieve? This are questions you need to understand before challenging affirmative action.

There can never be an equal playing ground when laws are put in place by one group to undermine the opportunity of another. Case in point, why are there high numbers of african americans serving long sentence for a crime their white counterparts received light sentence. And after serving their time they face another barrage of laws that hinder their economic mobility in the name of felony records. Discriminating Housing laws that affects these massive groups of people.

Do you think giving minorities a room to compete in contracts was because their white counterparts played fair in the first place.

GodFreyinNORSE:
Failed promises you say?

Buhari sworn to rule as the president of Nigeria for four years. He still has three years to prove you wrong. So I am not pained but having patience that he will succeed in his promises.

During the campaign period, Buhari made three promises only. Security, Corruption and economy. If you have the gray matter in your head, you will understand that within a year he has delivered in term of Security. He is battling now with corruption and doing his best on economy.

The security critical matter when he was campaigning is Boko Haram. He has decapitalized boko Haram, he has turned them to cowards and ragtard. He destroyed their supply line. He destoryed their base. Retrieved back our lost territory. IDPs are today returning home. Lot of people are moving into the north east for business. My Aboki will this week return home (something he cannot do when IB was on the seat). And you know what, the world is celebrating him for fighting Boko Haram to standstill. That is an achievement and he has delivered his promise on Security.

On Corruption, he is fighting that too. Suddenly, Fasheun is blabbing for eating Yam from NSA. Dasuki is remand, Dokpesi, Metuh and lot others are there. I think you are bitter toward Buhari because your source of living thru corruption is blocked.

So dear, Buhari has not disappoint me. He has brought smile to my face. My friends from the North can now return home. . .I love seeing him happy after living homeless in tears for years under IB.

Bros, so with the rise and audacity in herdsmen atrocities. You still boldly say Buhari has delivered in security...? Is security only about boko haram..?

analice107:
I cant believe i have been talking back to a retard. Aww.

Hehehehe...... I see I shocked your system..

One who subjects his conscience and common sense to primitive narratives uses the word retard.... Smh ol boy you better look mirror..

Anyhow sha.. Hell awaits you bro.... You're going to burn like a roasted goat.. So says the Lord that you are not worshipping. You better repent and start worshipping the other sadistic god from the middle of the east...

orunto27:
Those who have ears always hear The Holy Spirit speak.

Yeah, I heard your holyspirit speaking mandarin yesterday... It appears the fool drank too much cheap wine..

analice107:
O, i now get you. You are a muslim, i see. hahahahahahahahahahaha. You are scared. You had better be scared now, and repent, If not, Goosebaba, or Geesebaby, you will go to hell fire. By the way, do you know Muhammed is in hellfire? Allah didn't lie to any Muslim about hell, he made u know that he will send you all to hellfire; isn't that terrible? killing all these Christians and Jews with the hope of going to allah's heaven to have sex and get drunk for eternity, instead its the fire of hell.

On Muhammad's bed Fatima the beloved (who Muhammed shagged), asked if there was any hope of a hereafter, Goosebaba, do you remember what Muhammed told Fatima? "Pls ask me of any of my worldly goods and i will give to you,but do not ask me of hereafter for even i do not know where l am going". He lied, because allah has promised him hellfire, and he, Muhammed will be the first to use a bridge to come out of hell to stand judgement. Just imagine that, Muhammed standing Judgement.

LMAO....!!!!

I agree fuvk muhammad too, fuvk jesus and fuvk all the prophets of abrahamics gods.

Ol boy ehh.... In addition, Fuvk Allah and his Koran. fuvk Yaweh and his bible.

You promote ignorance as a belief. Because you read it in a book. You need to get your head examine. It appears you are mentally inept of objective thoughts.

analice107:
lol. Did i write the Bible? If you don't repent you will burn, this tantrums wont save you.

Exactly..... No be me write Koran ohhh...but oh boy ehh. Allah fire na die. Your own don finish. Dey dia dey worship the wrong god.. Hehehe

analice107:
You don't make any sense, hence; i'll just walk on.

Yeah... And it makes sense when you condem others by your convictions... Keep walking boy.. Hell awaits you. You've no say on the matter.... Just get ready to burn.

focus7:
Is obvious you don't know where am coming from with my views. Some Benin guys once came here to condemn kings from other place to be patronising modernisation and upholding traditions and how Benin monarch is the only one upholding tradition.

Okay I got you... But you should also know that there are always fanatics in every gathering/society. But mainstream followers always defines the group.

analice107:
What is selfish on what i said nah? And who did i condemn to hellfire?

In your pursuit to make heaven and live an happy afterlife. You've come to the conclusion that those who do not share your beliefs deserve to burn in hell. You even alluded that mother Theresa was lucky she was born again. Therefore, if she wasn't upon all her good deeds she deserves a painful "afterlife"..

So I say unto you. When your descendant finds a new religion different from yours in the future may you be condemed to hell. You should have no problem saying amen. Since you have no problem condemning others because of a belief.

eclipse13:
It says it's been for 246years..

You dey mind them.....

It is asserted that matriarchal rule was the order of the day for thousands of years before present day patriarchal rule.

analice107:
what is this one saying? take a hike.

Exactly what you read......

May your descendant condem you to the pit of hell for their selfish reasons.

Say amen...

Peritus:
What kind of reasoning is this? Do you hear of yearly blood sacrifice for remission of sin any longer? Who told you that communion is about cleansing?
My reply is based on the mention of cherubim and seraphim as it's one of the reasons people give to justify the use of sculpted images.
Come up with something better, or better shut ur vocal doors.

Body of christ and his blood is what...? Can anyone walk into your church and receive it or they've to be members.

Kindly tell me the purpose of communion. I will like to learn..

Also, Do you believe in the death of christ for atonement of your sin... Yes or no... If yes, does that not make you a recipient of blood sacrifice.

EuroBeam:
When an indigenous speak;so quick to distinguish them. I know my BINI's here.

Bros, we dey O. na...me na Urhobo guy man..

focus7:
What about the ice, why didn't ou respond to that or icing part of Benin tradition? As for the casket thing, ask your elders if they will be honest to you, Benin tradition don't use designer casket.

Lmao..... What about ice....?, how does that correlate with tradition. Before ice corpse were embalmed. Or are you saying traditional practice should ignore new discoveries or technology. Or traditionalist should not use it because they did not invent it...

First and foremost who creates tradition? Tradition is not absolute. It can be amended or discarded by the ruling class. If this Oba wants designers casket, guess what he just amended the traditions.

You need to stop using your indoctrinated prejudices to peddle false information on native tradition.

Peritus:
I never wanted to dabble into arguments on issues like this, but your opening statement caught my attention.
Bros, we are no longer under the old covenant so we don't repeat that which has been declared imperfect and changed!
Jeremiah 31:31-33 (Hebrews 8:8-10) God said that He would make a new covenant with His people which is not according to the one made with their fathers (old covenant). Christ is the fulfillment of the new covenant. If there had been nothing wrong with the first covenant, there won't be need for the second (Heb 8:7)
Everything about old system of worship was nullified by the coming of Christ starting from the physical tents, covenant box, cherubim & seraphim, Aaron's stick, blood sacrifice, ritual cleansing etc. They are mere shadows of the reality and no longer practiced or imitated (Heb 9).
So plz don't use the old system of worship to justify any doctrine.

Wait a minute!!!

If Jesus died for your sin. Does that not make you a recipient of blood sacrifice. If you take communion does that not constitute as a matter ritual cleansing in remembrance of the human sacrifice. Hmmm

You also said that something was wrong with the first covenant. By your statement it appears that there is something wrong with the second covenant.. If you believe in the blood of jesus without an actual blood. That constitutes imitation...

The third covenant is long overdue. Don't you think..

analice107:
So you use philanthropism to determine Christianity. That's just so dumb. So all the atheist philanthropists are Christians? Sorry to bust your bubbles, if Mother Teresa wasn't born again, she would ve gone to he'll fire.
1Corinthians 13: 3.And though I give all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burnt and have not love, it profits me nothing.
What is love? Jesus sys if you love me keep my commandment. What is his commandment. You MUST BE BORN AGAIN. without holiness, no man shall see God, not those who are good people.

Tufiakwa...!!! See blackmail.

As you condem those before you to the pit of hell because of your selfish reasons "salvation" so will your descendant condem you too.

Say amen...

orunto27:
You are lying Kelvin. Evil words against The Holy Spirit is punishable by The Holy Spirit. Always remember that St. Peter, if you know who he is, was the first Pope in Rome and St. John was the first Pope in Alexandria. These gave us Sunday as the authorised and approved Sabbath day by Jesus Christ for all Christians. let's leave 7days Adventists for now.

How come you now have to speak for this holyspirit.

Abi Holyspirit only has feelings but cannot speak for itself or thyself..

j1mmy:
No truly, what is the role of Oba of Benin other than bush-tradition-ruler of city where pro-s-titutes are born before they are shipped to Italy and other places.

Oba of opio city

So judging the throne by this acts makes sense to you.

Think man...before the quagmire imposed on us in the name "Nigeria"..where the people of the so called bush traditional ruler traveling abroad for prostitution..?

The Oba preserves the history and legacies of those before him, Just as the queen of England. Is the queen of england responsible for the act of terrorism carried out by her citizens..?

Expand your thoughts process, try and gather your thoughts. It will help if you study your history objectively.

j1mmy:
another useless traditional chief whose role should be converted to elected position of Mayor of Benin.
A waste of public money and a reminder of backward and primitive customs

Take your inferiority complex and slit your throat... Even a used condom has more value than your life..

focus7:
Did he just die? Benin palace is hypocritical, forming to be upholding tradition and they have put their dead king in the ice for over three months and they buried him with modern casket not planks.

May you have sense...

What has tradition got to do with modern casket..

What is modern in casket...? Is it the casket built as ferrari, boat or flat screen TV...?

HannibalXVI:
I wonder when these barbaric things will stop.

Kindly explain the barbarism please....

I don't know how to "logically" explain God, his existence or his way to anybody. I'm not very good at drawing analogy like the Poster has done with God and Lotto tickets (LOL). I only know one thing, a force greater than anything I can comprehend exists. I just know I feel at peace when I pray over an issue because something is in control(I'm not the extreme christian type but honestly I sometimes almost feel a physical force, i've been told its the holy spirit... I pray it is and not just my mind).
I lost someone dear to me a while ago. Before the demise, I prayed and fasted viciously for a positive turn around. One day while I was having one of my violent prayer session trying to invoke a by miracle by force, I started to weep and I fell asleep. When I woke up I felt like something was trying to comfort me and I felt strength renewed. I knew at that moment that my dear one would leave me soon yet I felt at peace, I had no choice but to relish the last days before the passing.
Moral of the story: You cannot command God to answer positively to your prayer if it is not his will, you just have to trust that in the end you will be fine. Nobody can give you any solid evidence of Gods existence until you submit yourself, BY YOURSELF.

Exactly... "until you submit yourself by yourself"...

After all the prayers, carrying and slamming the devil. And all you could hear around you was your own voice. Then you finally realize that nothing was happening. You felt powerless and weak. Then crying took over and you slept like you overdosed on good puzzy.

Upon waking up, reality sets in... You realized that the inevitable must and will take place. Circle of life must take its course. Then you submit yourself by yourself to reality.

I've lost a loved one too. One only compounds unnecessary frustration by invoking a god that is no where to be found. At least you saw death knocking on the door of your loved one. That in it self gives room to manage or prepare for their passing.

Everyone reading this delicious write up on 4:19:2016 would not be here in a 116years, no matter how much you bind the devil.

lepasharon:
OP, at least when the guy is in heaven he will never get shot again. All glory to Jesus

How can you say that..? Is it not the same heaven that lucifer challenged Yahweh. Anything can happen. The same guy can be shot bow and arrow in heaven or robbed at knife point. And Yahweh will simply say, Nna Bros, I work in mysterious ways, don't you know the god you serve. You cannot comprehend my shiiit bitcch! So says the Lord.

Volksfuhrer:
I will answer your question, but first what do you mean by "chief ruler"? The Ogiso ruled igodomigodo. But his political stature was nowhere close to that of the Oba of Benin. Does that answer your question.

Okay, so are you saying the obaship already exists before the prince created an empire? Or did different chiefs rule each village without an overlord.

As a descendant of the Ogiso dynasty...i like to get more information before their migration.

Volksfuhrer:
Are you talking about the time the settlement was called Igodomigodo?

Bros abeg answer my original question...

Volksfuhrer:
Tales by moonlight.

The ancestors of the Oba of Benin were Yorubas. At the height of Benin Empire's glory, Yoruba was the official palace language! Besides, Benin never had an empire until a Yoruba prince came to rule it. The Ogiso was a village chief, not an emperor! So show much respect to the Yorubas.

Kindest Regards.

If the Ogiso was a village chief. Then who was the head ruler of Benin before the coming of a yoruba prince?