TruthinAction:


Their bodies will return to dust but their souls will burn in hell.

While you and yours burn in Muslim hell fire....Ohh boy you better start learning how to scream in agony! In Arabic language..

elated177:



You don't know what your problem is?

Believe it or not, Salvation is from the Jews.

Who condemned his ancestors? Why did I condemn my ancestors?

If calling a spade a spade is condemnation, then so be it.

Just read Jer 16:19-21.

When your ancestors killed twins, because they thought they were evil, did they act in ignorance or not? Why did they stop doing it? Who or what made them change their view?

Young man, you are a man I suppose, feel free to write about the religion of your ancestors. You can even worship them if you like I am not stopping you.

I am not forcing you to accept the path I am traversing. It is not like I have a knife to your throat or a gun to your head.

You need to quit the whining. Your latent attempt at emotional blackmail will not work.

I must talk about my Maker, my Father in heaven YHVH El Shaddai, with all confidence. It is divine confidence that comes from divine knowledge, wisdom and understanding. Job 28:28. Jer 9:23-24. No apologies!

May be you are a slave. I am, most definitely, not a slave.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

I hope you're from the tribe that killed twins. So one tribe killed twins. in your world that translates to African ignorance.

What about the tribes that celebrated and honoured twins before the advent of colonial transgression?

Should we discard theirs because we want to make a point of personal righteousness.

If you want to call a spade a spade. Direct it at the particular tribe that practiced twin killings. Stop regurgitating colonial propaganda to make your point.

elated177:



You don't know what you talking about? Are you an atheist or traditionalist?

If by arrogance, you mean confidence, then I say good observation. I have no apology for talking about my Maker with full confidence. It is confidence that comes from knowledge. Jer 9:23-24.

So one has to be labeled something in order to dignify and respect their ancestors. I am an African. Just like the Jews do not condemn their ancestors whose barbaric ways are well documented in your holy books. Even the descendants of colonialist do not condemn their ancestors.

But a glorified slave thinks he has devine knowledge to condemn his ancestors.��

aadoiza:

You know some things are better experienced.

There's this popular guy that ate an entire aeroplane. In fact, the guy eats anything and everything. When you tell people of this guy they argue that it's not possible to eat metals, glass, etc., and I see good reasons in their contention because such eating orientation or habit is inconceivable to them. Completely out of their realities.

I did see a footage of some guy eating broken bottles, metals and other abnormal things that are not good for human consumption. If memory serves me right. He had a medical operation to empty his stomach.

There're pregnant women that crave eating chalk and other harmful things during their pregnancy.

But evidence of people indulging in such acts are presented. This aspect is totally different from someone saying they are having an on going relationship and conversation with a human who lived 2000 yrs ago.

elated177:


The other physicist still would have used the same method to transmit his knowledge to the next generation --- ink and paper.

Or are you saying that everything you know about physics, you heard it directly from the mouth of the physicists themselves?

The Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, uses his creatures - the human beings - as vessels to disseminate his message.

Take for example, he can send help through one of his servants to another of his servant who is in need of that particular help. He does not have to do so literarily ... that is throw the help down from heaven.

Salvation is from the Jews. That is the Father's wish. No one can question him in that regard. From the Jews the message spread to all parts of the world.

Why do you think our ancestors worshipped all sorts of things, including mountain ---though some people still do? It is because it is not in man to lead himself spiritually. The soul of man yearns for its maker. Even the evil spirits know this. This yearning can be satisfied correctly and wrongly. When the spirit which Creator has placed in man satisfies that yearning by instructing the soul, the soul loves, accepts and obeys the word of its Maker. Remember, the spirit in man is quickened by the Spirit of the Creator. The Spirit of the Father in heaven depends on the Word of the Father for action.

So, our ancestors worshiped created things such as wood, stone, sun, moon, etc, because they were "disconnected" from the their Maker spiritually ---they were spiritually dead. However, they knew there was someone or something outside themselves --- a higher power or being - that required worship or glory for the life they had and the crops they planted and harvested. But they didn't know what to offer or how to reach that being. Satan and the demons were too pleased to oblige them and misled them into idolatry and satanism. Their souls were controlled by evil spirits. Let me leave it at this point for now. Check Act 17:22-31.

Read:

Deut 5:22.

Luke 16:27-31.

The Father in heaven - the Creator of the ends of the earth - wrote the Ten Commandments on two stone tablets with his own finger and gave them to Moses.

Do you obey the Ten Commandments? Do you even believe they are his commandments. You don't even believe he exists.

It wouldn't have made any difference to you, if he had written everything with his own fingers and thrown them down in front of you.

You see, it is like a message he gave me recently about the control of a person's soul. I will post it after this reply.

You write with so much arrogance laced in brainwashed doctrines. Step back for a minute and ask yourself why it is okay for you to impose the narrative of Jews as the absolute path?

Africans tell their stories or mode of worship without imposing their narratives on other Africans or non Africans? Why is it okay that an imposed doctrine or concepts is used to insult, condemn or rewrite the history and belittle the legacies of your ancestors.?

You toll the path of self loathing as a path to righteousness. But in this moments you see yourself as speaking the word of your creator. Does that tally with the concept of your ancestors that you eagerly call evil?

aadoiza:

I like that. I was actually expecting ingenuity in your definition, for I thought atheists were independent thinkers, but the definition actually smacks of mundaneness. I reckon it was laid down by consensus among atheists.

The definition would be right, if only it stops taking reality as a constant. There are realities you would find inconceivable.

Kindly name these realities that one would find inconceivable...

P.s...no need for word salad. Just straight up information needed. Thanks in advance.

generationz:


sorry you seemed to have wasted your time

you were obviously surrounded by religious people and not true Christians

its obvious from your original post


All your "religious activities" were carried out with fear rather than with love


Too bad.

Whenever I see another one become atheist or a new age inductee I can just imagine the level of religiousness and confusion he / she was subjected too


in fact most of you were from strictly religious families

Religiousness = fear and emptiness

christianity = a loving and affectionate relationship with the holyspirit which will male you climb mountains , cross rivers and seas etc j[b]ust to do his will and still rejoice in oppression

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At bolded...Do his will and still rejoice in oppression!

And you will say you're not brainwashed...tufiakwa!

Hmmmm.....clearly his write up is to empower the traditional culture of his people. Not everyone who belongs to a tribe is verse in their dialect.

One thing that is for sure is that he promotes traditional heritage and identity. Clearly, those who oppose him are okay with condemnation of Hausa traditional practice while they promote Islam. It's not that complicated.

blueAgent:



You hate foreign diety but you like the technology , Civilization and Science of foreign people and their diety that brought you those technology.

Clearly you're a shallow thinker....just waka enter bush with your inferiority complex.

ensamy:
Advice to Pastors: Never ever go to destroy anything that belongs to the devil out of your own ego when God has not instructed you to go and destroy. If you go and touch the devils property, they will destroy you and God will not protect you.
Evil spirits too are on divine assignments on earth. Pastors sometimes you go against the devil's property you go against God's will.
You will be destroyed.

May okito shave your pubes....for linking traditional and ancestral mode of divine communication to the property of devil...�

banmee:


And there it is. I have countered you with logic and common sense and as usual you have nothing to comeback with. You say the English language is not what it claims to be and and useless but yet you have been using it to communicate your views. Lol....i always enjoy our little spar. You always come out looking s.tupid. You know what would impress me? starting voicing your discontent for the language by responding with another language other than English and lets see how far you'll get. Did you see that? A light bulb just went up in your brain saying "damn, this nigga's right? How does he do it? I'd better shut up now"

You are welcome.

Guy ...you should be ashamed of yourself....you need to worry about your own dim bulb. He who refers to himself as "nigga" talks about a light bulb moment GTFOH!

NaLaugh:


As good as that sounds, it is not feasible in a country like Nigeria. It has too much diversity, as there are hundreds of local languages, so how does the hausa communicate with the Idoma etc.

There would probably be an ethnic civil war if Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa gets declared an official language.

I disagree ...till today we still trade among ourselves using indigenous languages. Don't make it sound as if we did not exist before english was introduced. In this day and time we do not need an official language.

macof:
my guy. I'm good o.

I should send u a pm. Let's stay in contact

No wahala...

macof:
Another mad person has joined Nairaland

I blame christianity for all this nonsense. How will somebody just sit down and start drawing up yoruba history from his head, a head that is only filled with Hebrew worship

Lolz....guy how far na?

Don't mind this yeye poster....all he/she posts is telling Africans that we don't know who we are. Arrant rubbish I tell you..

loneatar:
what is derogatory about it?

Thanks for asking...when you say "African culture is barbaric and bloody"... That's a disparaging statement pulled from the writings of classic European authors which you're regurgitating in 2017.

Yes! We have some practices that we can do away with. But to conclude that the entire culture itself is barbaric and bloody. Well that makes you a compound fool...

loneatar:
wetin I do. Now?

Why you dey form mugu...you don forget wetin you write....

loneatar:
Dear don't compare Africa cultures with whites man culture.Africa culture is barbaric and bloody do you know how many souls kill just to sworn those people as king right

Clearly you are a compound fool....

Speakdatruth:

There's a place for culture and there's a place for religion. Both are not related!

Religion is someone else's culture..If you participate in any religion you're preserving a culture, a legacy and a history ....take note.

GoodMuyis:


Nonsense

If the Slavemaster had not come to, someone like you have no hope to formal education, talkless of having access to Nairaland.

Your Hopelessness lies in your village where you will be slave to your idol and village head

The stupidity in this post is mind blogging. Clearly you don't know your history! Tufiakwa!

Mulakintanwa:


IGBOS, SONGHAIS, HAUSAS, BENINS AND OTHERS ARE DESCENDANT OF ODU ENUWA YORUBA AND NOT ODUDUWA.

1. TO YOU ALL THE DESCENDANT OF DHU NUWAS ( ODU ENUWA to the yorubas, NDI UWA or NDI ENUWA to the ibos).

THE FIRST EMPEROR (5-6th century AD) OF THE FIRST EMPIRE OF WEST AFRICA CAPITAL AT ILE- IFE. PALACE LOCATED AT ENUWA ILE-IFE OSUN STATE.
Asara ODU ENUWA atewanro also Yusuf asar' yathar Dhu nuwas king of nations south of Arabia.

YUSUF: Joseph

ASARA~ AS'AR : 1. Twelve (tribes of Israel) 2. To give/take tenth.

YATH'AR ; conjecture of two words 'qiryath haarba' meaning city of four( burial place of sarah, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob).
The older name of the city of Hebron.

Phonetic spelling: "keer- yath' haw-ar-bah",
qiryath - ha-arbaw (haribawa).

The Hausa man did not forget so they call us Yoruba or Yaribawa.
"keer-y(ath haw-ar)-bah" is what the Yoruba took out of this to give atewanro. Hebron is tantamount to the tribe of Judah.

ODU ENUWA ASARA ATEWONRO
Hausa called the IBO yarmirin 'yarmin' is the the Hebrew for right hand, while 'yarmiym' is Hebrew for 1. stronger, 2. more dexterous, 3. son of right hand (Benjamin). Tribe of Benjamin.

2. DHU NUWAS THE FATHER OF NATIONS.
HOW ARIEL MEANING 'LION OF GOD' THE GREAT WARRIOR, BECAME ERINLE THE ORISHA AND ERI THE ANCESTORS OF IGBO KINGDOM.

Sadly all of this people or ancestors are now called orisha, so we will be talking about orishas and be abusing our mind and establishing points.

What is the meaning of orisha: ori sha - head choose, not good enough. If they are truly Hebrew kingdom of Yemen the Hebrew language should help us.

Ancestor in Hebrew is 'ri'shonim' first ones, ori- head - first, shonim- ashayan-ones. Rishon from rosh- first, chief, former, earlier, forefathers, older ones, previous.
Clear from Hebrew orisha is simply -the first ones not synonymous to idolatry.

But eulogising, praying to, communication with as God and hero worship of this first ones or ancestors is idolatry.

Genesis - B'reshit, in the beginning of - bereishit in Hebrew. Yoruba of genesis - 'beresheshe or ibere ishe - beginning of existence.

Previously was mentioned the one who was sent to sent to secure the Niger delta by establishing their families or dividing the lands who left with warlord Ogun.

Ujo, okanbi, idekuseroake, pere, izoduwa, izonuwa to ife, Benin and ijo nation, could this man be the same ERI of the IBO and erinle the orisha.

IBO are looking for ERI the Hebrew they never look for possibility of Ariel, erinle was said to be a powerful fearful hunter on sea, land and ocean has full knowledge of herbs, leaves and ocean water for healing.

Referring to such one as elephant of earth is poor use of language and mind but this people were kin and smart. consulting Hebrew the word Ariel meaning 'lion of God' 'ferocious and fearful' sooth the description above than the 'elephant of the land' as if we have those of the sky.

The way he is also being worship all over today also shows he is among those who led most of those community to their destination from ife. This Ariel become Yoruba erinle is the eri the IBO are still looking for today,

Nana buruku and yembo left this company to established Dahomey.

Ashes or something of him might have been taken back to ife to inform the old EMPEROR YUSUF AS'AR QIRYATH HARBA/YORUBA ALIAS DHU NUWAS THE EL- AHAFIN.

Is any of this your write up taught in the traditional corridors of these people you write about?

In your post you're practically saying we don't know our history but a writer from God knows where is privy to such information..

GoodMuyis:


Yes you are Right, Christian are responsible for persecution of pagans.
I could remembered the babalawos we send parking with our hot Prayer and Praise to God.
The man had being deceiving weak soul for a long time until we move our fellowship close to him.

Since power pass power, babalawo is on the run.

Holy persecution

Tomorrow when Christians shout prosecution...just remember say power pass power.....Christians whining like little bitches that ever liveth....

The average abrahamist would not take the time to evaluate their hate and degradation of their ancestral identity. To the extent that nowadays any mention of "ancestors" is seen as evil.

But they fail to realize that they're worshipping the ancestors of other people and preserving their legacies. By regurgitating only the exaggerated negative aspect of their forebears through the written words of European authors they see no problem with that.

They are quick to accept their ancestors as evil practitioners without any scrutiny. That is the annoying part of it all...

Maga must pay...not too long ago MMM was hot. Those that saw the racket spoke out. But today 1 year freeze just pass..

This baba Benny hinn.I remember touching our tv during one of his magic performance for healing and breakthroughs. Looking back now, my guy even this kind story about him would have not changed my mind.

If we must say there is a creator of this majestic DNA. Then each one of us must agree that the creator is the God's of our ancestors. Not the God of other people's ancestors.

So yes! My God created DNA.

Meanwhile, Blueagent...dem swear for you. I'm an Urhobo man. Who bask in his ancestral teachings.

Warn ya sef. Don't tag me with atheistic thread. Besides, I prefer atheist than foreign diety worshipping theist.

biacan:
is obvious the husband can't accept being a loser..... such men are usually dangerous..... I do tell my friends make sure you provoke your spouse in a hot roll just to know the level of his anger before getting married to him.......they should send him to jail already

Lmao!!! You funny no be small....�����

EgunMogaji:


Well, attempted murder is far different from murder

It depends on WHO you attempt.....some attempted murderer are serving 20 plus years. While some murderers serve less than 5 years and they are out of prison..

9jvirgin:
This guy's brain is filled with poo. If you stab someone here, you will get a life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

Where is the "here" ... That people get life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for stabbing?

I want to believe you just made it up...please prove me wrong..

Something is amiss here..."on a pile of dead bodies with missing limba. On a beach in Lagos....hmmm..

Baba Plaetton....I salute ohh...where you dey get this your studies from sef? ...even when I parabulate internet finish I still don't run into articles like this...I hail ohh...

shadeyinka:


Your hatred for my God is not understandable except you are fully owned.... I sincerely wish you a breakfree.

Lol....don't worry your god will do to you what he and Lucifer did to job...say amen!

shadeyinka:

If you claim you live by the ancestral teachings of the Urhobos, then you have a religion.


Spirits according to the Urhobos are NEVER energies as you claim. They are ancestors and other (good and evil) nonphysical living beings. So, you are still a mixup of what is and what is not in the name of antagonism against Jehovah God of Abraham

Yeah ..coming from the one who used software as an analogy on spirit...smh

You're here repeating what I said..negative and positive energies. Good or evil.. it is the man who choose to appease or channel those energies. Therefore, no one fights a spirit, you are fighting your fellow man.

My ancestral teaching is not a religion. Its my heritage and my identity. Get your mind right...

P.s...yeah Jehovah God of Lucifer....try spinning that...