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yemmy75:
If the same God that made death 'permanent' decides to resurrect some people to suit his grand purpose, do you have problems with that? Or would you charge him to court for doing that? By the way, resurrecting people is something God has done time & time again, and isn't peculiar only to Jesus Christ

That's a belief... Kindly stick with reality. When was the last time you witness a ressurection..? peculiar ko, peculiar ni...

r2beez:
The question about the death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as whether or not it's a sacrifice is not a surprise because that sets the Christian faith apart as there was never anyone be it a prophet or atheist or anything that came to this world and resurrected. It's understandable that other faith might feel pained and would like to contest and dispute the truth but that will not make it less a truth.

I urge all genuine children of God to shun any form of argument/debate with atheist/other religious beliefs but pray for them that they might know the truth and the truth shall set them free. They tried to conceal the resurrection of Christ long time ago but they failed. Why then bother yourself now.... 'my church have I built on you and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it.'

I urge Christians to know that in the last days various people will arise atheist and their sympathizers and shall speak ill of the message of the cross but hold fast to that which you know lest you lose it.

We ain't seen anything yet, more of them are coming.. .. may God have mercy on their souls... amen.

We have been waiting for over 2000+ years....

Playing the victim card while still being a nuisance..

Say NO TO HYPOCRISY!!!

dapipson:
Thanks for your response. I do understand through your post that you believe that there is a creator which you don't know his name which probably could be the reason why you reason the way you do and that instead of believing and reverencing that creator, you choose to believe in common sense. Can't you see that there is a disconnect in your mode of thinking?

I believe that there is a creator who is Lord almighty, Jehovah Yahweh, the creator of the universe and everything there in. Only him will i reverence.

My own common sense has led me to prove Him right.

I know you don't share in this faith of mine but if you wish to give it a try, please you may read the Bible whole heartedly for seven days, and say this after each reading "Lord Jesus, I truly want to know who you are. prove yourself to me if you are truly the son of God"

If after seven days and you didn't get the answer, you may leave.

Thanks for reading

Creator of what universe....!?

A creator that received his inheritance (isreal) from his father El.. That's why that babble says the god of the jews. Go read that babble again for 7 days. This time around free your mind from the jesus bondage...

Jeromejnr:
Oga! You don't have an argument.

We are talking about sacrifice here and not dying. The person you said that donates a kidney also did not die. So what are you even saying?

Then what did the person sacrifice...? kidney. Now he should have one left. If he still has two. Then what did he sacrifice....

Did Jesus die...yes or no...

If he did not die. Why did he resurrect.?

So yes... We're talking about dying here... No

KoloOyinbo:
The Irish shamrock is a type of clover with three leaves. Our national flower. Did you not know?

As for the rest of you statements they are just that - unsupported statements of your beliefs and we all know how strange some of your ideas are.

Unsupported..... Lol....

Your beliefs is supported by the writings of men.

Mine is supported by nature.

Worshiping the dead and having a. Relationship is unnatural.

Remembering the dead is natural.

Who has strange beliefs again...

Jeromejnr:
So, supposing a criminal has your son in his hands and he says your sons life or your life and you go with your life and he shoots you in the chest area, you go unconscious and are presumed dead but after a day or so due to help of doctors you are been saved from near death which means you get your life back even though you have to recover slowly, so can we say here that because you got to live and not die, what you did wasn't a sacrifice?

How insulted will you feel when your son looks you later in the face and says "My Dad is selfish and has never sacrificed anything for me"?

where is the definition that if you sacrifice something, you don't get to use it later?

What type of Sunday school buffoonery is this....? Clearly, his father did not die. Different from jesus dying and resurrecting. Stop decieving yourself..

seanblaise:
i want to prove to you that Jesus is Lord....lets make a bet, if my argument about Jesus is right, by this time 2moro, you will have lost ur phone....but if am wrong, the opposite would happen....if only you will tell urself the truth...

And if I don't lose my phone... What happens to you..?

KoloOyinbo:
Well your attitude clearly reveals you are merely engaged in a rather pathetic attempt to offend Christians. Not sure what inadequacy leads you to feel this need? But good luck in overcoming it anyway.

And what do I say of evangelical christains. Disturbing my peace with their beliefs...

sonOfLucifer:
Now the projection begins. Keep it up. Wiser people can see through your dubious ways.
It's kinda difficult to argue with one who bends words to fit his narrow and myopic definitions.. If I can't trust you to properly define faith, how can I trust your capacity to reason objectively?

Welcome... It took you a minute to discover his dubious ways... Lol

KoloOyinbo:
That has been done many times before and very well too. One of the first explanations the Irish get is that analogy of St. Patrick who used our national plant the shamrock! Three petals that form one flower!

If you question is serious there are MANY good explanations you will enjoy finding.

Sadly some people here simply want an argument to attempt (vainly) to rubbish the beliefs of others. If you are genuine you will have little trouble finding the answers.

Na flowers Irish take dey form trinity.... Lmao..

The real trinity is.....

The father, mother and child. It applies to every human being. That's why reproduction is tantamount to humanity. Not father, son and holyspirit. Homosexual things..! Tufiakwa

Ibolt4m:
...u better tink wise ure no longer a babe

Challenge my statement or Sharrap dia...

KoloOyinbo:
Lets be clear here. This is NOT a question that you are seeking an answer to. You mind is clearly made up in advance and you are merely seeking to promote your own fixed position.

The sacrifice of Jesus makes perfect sense to Christians (hint: thats why they ARE Christians). Non believers are exactly that - NON believers.

No matter what intrepretation or argument is put forward you will not accept it.

You have every right to disbelieve and should not be disrespected for that. Believers have an equal right and should be equally respected. This thread was clearly merely an exercise in arguing to demean others. Disgraceful!!!!

Hogwash..!! Tell that to your evangelical christains and their nuisance.

Jeromejnr:
And how Is it a mismatch?

Where is also written that if you sacrifice something you don't get to use it later?

When you donate your kidney. YOU DON'T GET TO USE IT LATER..!!! Stop decieving yourself!

seanblaise:
lets be rational here.... I have not made out any single rationality from all you have said.....
ME==>if Jesus christ is Lord, and he died for my sins and ressurected on the third day, and i believe in him, then i will spend eternity with him in heaven....if Jesus is not Lord and i believe in him, when I die, i will have nothing to loose, either ways, i win...
Sonoflucifer==> if Jesus is Lord, and yhu dnt believe in him, when you die, you are FINISHED...If Jesus is not lord, and you dnt beleive in him, then when you die, you have nothing to loose......weigh the options and choose wisely....HAPPY EASTER...

When you finally die and see that allah is the one true God. Hell fire awaits you bro....you better weigh your options wella. As we can see, Allah's hell would be very hot. See what his followers are serving in this lifetime.

micodon:
"the traditional story of Israel" said that
1. the Earth was hanging on nothing.
2. The Earth is a circle
3. Talked about the water circle of the earth


All of these..... Tens of Centuries before science even began having wrong ideas.

You need to be Smart and think for yourself

Exactly.... The traditional stories of israel "..how is that your story. Are you an isrealite!? If you're not i suggest you take your own advice seriously and start thinking for yourself.

Sometimes people just dey misyarn... What is science?

Raziii:
are you afraid to tell me you are a traditional worshiper? Don't be! Its what you believe in... That's why God himself doesn't hate you for that. But he expect you to seek him. When you do, you will find him. Most of our ancestors believe in what they believe because there was no enlightenment, so many questions but no answers. But you everyday you hear of miracles of God's wonder and yet?

Hahaha..... Don't be delirious. Where did I tell you I worship anything. So to acknowledge your identity is now a bad thing.. ;DSee the results of indoctrination. What is enlightenment if I may ask?

Who is Yahweh to the Israelites...? He is their traditional god. The stories in the bible is their traditional stories/history. And here you are, a bonified gentile speaking on behalf of an isrealite deity.

And yes, we hear of miracles. Just like we hear of muhammad ascending to the sky. No big deal..

Raziii:
my mind is already filled with a meSsages of Jesus. One whose message makes perfect sense and miracles I see everyday. What do you believe in?

I believe in my heritage, lineage and the teachings of my ancestors. Not the heritage, lineage or teachings of someone else's ancestors.

Don't forget that you are a gentile according to the message of Jesus and him papa..

Allosaurus:
Allah is a bloodsucking demon and muhammad was a paedophile and rapist. He spent his entire useless life fighting and killing innocent people. Unfortunately, he died and was buried like a leper.
Your quran is the evil book Shekau recites before beheading his victims. So, tell me, why must I put my faith in Islam?

Wetin consign me consign Koran....

Allah, Yahweh and their prophets are demons...

Ye is a demon worshipper...

Raziii:
you know... All you need is just a miracle from God, just keep your heart open... B4 you die, he will give you a reason to see how wrong you have been. Trust me, that's how he rolls.

Na by force to receive miracles...!? To hell with how he rolls. You're the closed minded one here. Why don't you open your mind to prophet muhammad. I hope before you die you will receive his message.

Babakenny:
I am 100% certain that you are a dead man walking!! Jesus said, they see me, but knows me not. Sin to Holy Spirit has no forgiveness, cos Jesus is Lord and HE is the spirit of the LIVING GOD. You will never see him when u die but u will see him if u genuinely repented of your sin. People like you are in hell blaming themselves for not accepting JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR.
ACCEPT HIM TODAY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!

HE DIED AND ROSE AGAIN SO THAT YOU MIGHT NOT DIE THE SECOND DEATH. Get a Bible and study why He died for you.

Sharrap dia! Stop making shiiit up as you go. Did you visit hell to see people complaining and blaming themselves. Or you're just telling lies for jesus.

To show that you don't fully understand your frustration in your religion. There's something called judgment day.I thought jesus was suppose to return before judgment, before so called sinners are sentenced to hell. How come you saw people in hell complaining.

Do come on a public forum and post Sunday school rubbish...

TrueBorn:
Suit urself dear. The end will tell but then it wld be too late. U are trying so hard to convince urself.

Why do u hate Jesus so much? What wrong did He do to u? because u know that He is d Light dat exposes all ur sins but bc u just don't want to give up ur lifestyle, u insult Him to feel good, abi? No wahala dear. Whatever tickles ur fancy.

But keep dis in mind, "Be careful that u do not refuse to listen to d One who is speaking. For if of Israel did not escape when they refused to listen to Moses, the earthly messenger, we will certainly not escape if we reject d One who speak to us from heaven" Heb 12:25

I rest my case.

What hate!!? Try and reason like a normal human being. What sin have i committed against the dead that I never met. You believe in absurdities. Besides what is SIN...? And whom did I sin against. Tell me with proof. Don't lay claims and accusations on me. What kind of lifestyle do you know that I live, apart from your deluded accusations and blackmail.

You've been indoctrinated into dead man worship. Now you are busy convincing yourself that you have a relationship with the dead. The people you know before they died. Do you still communicate with them or have personal relationships with them as we converse..? If no. Then who is fooling oneself... Look in the mirror bro, free your mind from bondage. Life is for the living not the dead. However, we must honor the legacies of those before us,, not worship them through delusion.

TrueBorn:
My friend, it's like u are working so hard to confute God's Word and I wonder why. If u know sincerely, deep within ur hrt, that what u believe is true, why are u wasting all this energy in trying to find a loophole with Jesus? I am sure u trying so hard to make urself feel good by insulting my King.

Go ahead and make urself believe what u like. It's u who truly is decieving urself. Smh. Go ahead dear but d end will tell.

All d opportunity u have for repentance is here. Now. This very minute. There is a place called eternity.

Arguments about Jesus will take u no where. No matter how u try to dispute it, it won't make Him less of who He is. If u want to know the truth, I invite u to experience Him for urself cos until then there's nothing I can do here any more. It will be like pouring water onto a stone.

A word is enough for d wise.

There is no king to insult here only the legacy of a dead man.

Meanwhile, how far are you with coming over to worship the one true God of your ancestors. No repentance needed. Just meaningful understanding of who you are. Your heritage, your culture has no business with Israel just as a true isrealites has no business with your heritage or culture. Wake up from your slumber and stop worshipping the dead. It's unnatural!!

TrueBorn:
My friend, it's like u are working so hard to confute God's Word and I wonder why. If u know sincerely, deep within ur hrt, that what u believe is true, why are u wasting all this energy in trying to find a loophole with Jesus?

Jesus can only reveal Himself to u when u allow Him. He can't force His way into ur heart.

Jesus said, 'behold, I stand at d door of ur heart and knock. Whoever opens up to Me, I will come in and dine with him and he with Me.'

Next question u may ask me is, how do I know dat what is d truth?

Faith.

I simply believed even tho humanly speaking d message of d cross sounds like foolishness but when I opened my heart in faith, tho not having any empirical evidence abinicio, God revealed d truth to me.

If u want to come to God, u must come like a child. Empty urself of all ur so called feeble wisdom and come. Cos as long as u harden up ur hrt and try to analyze, reason, rationalize and understand God, even if I explain from today til tomorrow, u will never see sense in wot I am saying.


Faith makes us believe even when we don't see bc we know God cannot lie. Human wisdom says, 'I must see before I believe'. Jesus said, ' blessed are those who believe who believe without seeing Me' John 20:29

It's impossible to analyze God. He is beyond human and angelic imagination. That's why thru Jesus, He gives us His Holy Spirit who reveals and teaches us everything we need to know.


Arguments about Jesus will take u no where. No matter how u try to dispute it, it won't make Him less of who He is. If u want to know the truth, I invite u to experience Him for urself cos until then there's nothing I can do here any more. It will be like pouring water onto a stone.

If only u'd stop hardening up ur hrt and let God.

Lol.....yeah

Bla bla bla as usual. Why don't you have faith in allah. Why are you harding your heart against the prophet muhammad message. Why did you use your feeble wisdom to reject the Gods of your ancestors.? Why didn't you come as a child before your ancestoral teachings..? Why do you forsake the love of your great great great grandparents..? But with your "faith " you have a relationship with a dead man that died 2000+ years ago whom you never met... Your faith equals delusion nothing more.

So you see. Hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to peddling or claiming delusion. Jesus was a hippie that challenge the status quo. He made claims that he could not fulfill, that's why your likes have been waiting for his second coming. My friend, your jesus is dead and gone like your forefathers before you. And that's a fact!!!

Muafrika2

This your demon presence reminds me of the pharmaceutical companies selling their poison.

Do you sleep at night
Have you ever experienced dizziness
Have you ever experienced muscle spasm
Do you walk with your feet
Do you eat with your hands
Have you ever felt the urge to use the toilet
Have you ever eaten something that tasted bitter

If you have experienced any of this, my friend there are demons around you. But don't be alarmed. There's is a cure.

God...!!

He will make sure all this things don't t happen to you again. If it still happens, don't worry he has a plan. He is testing you.

Sides effects are...

You start looking for answers to questions that don't make sense. Paranoia creeps in. Even ants become a suspect.

You fall mugu for your fellow human being who proclaim to have received his/her Phd from God pharmacy.

You begin to proclaim that you have first class ticket to the afterlife. But you don't want to die. Even jesus wey suppose ressurect on the third day no wan die...

Happy fuvking easter!!!!

KingEbukasBlog:
Nwanna imarokwa .. nke a i na-aju m ajuju a ..

Well its the Holy Trinity - Yahweh , Jesus and the Holy Spirit

Interpret that thing you wrote in your ancestoral language...or else your pubes go begin quarrel with you..

Meanwhile, what does the 3 marafuvkers call themselves in your native language..

KingEbukasBlog:
how is it nonsense ... the truth is before you and deny it blatantly

And the one and only true God is............?

londoner:
It actually is the main reason IMO. Although not the only reason.

Look at the lack of good quality leadership and the sheer incompetence of Nigerian leadership. It is due to the mindset and alot of the time it is retrogressive and beclouded by greed and male EGO.

Aunty mi... Male Ego does not come close as real reasons why Africans have demented leadership. There's is tribalism, nepotism, political thuggery, and almighty geopolitics!!

To put the blame on gender is a bit dubious.. If I conclude that women cannot be trusted with power because of the battle of land grabbing between Turia and Patience Jonathan. Mind you they were not even elected officials just wives... :oWould you take me serious.

KingEbukasBlog:
Result ? So you did witness the actual magical transformation of lizard to man

Ohhh oh!!!! Nna monkey.... You see that I said "theory" not evolution theory... What's wrong with you.?

The demented balls you have... What's excuses do you have for peddling your nothing chilling in nothing, then created something by speaking

Evolution theory does not try to blackmail me, it does not care if I acknowledge it. And I don't have to give two kobo to it. But that demented fowl you call god, should go back to Israel and suvk it's own covk.. Hey! The motherfuvker works in mysterious ways... He even licks his own butt hole... The power of your creator at work...

sinkhole:
A little correction please! Instead of "African men" why not just say "Africans", because African women are also very guilty of being instinctive, infact their own worse, African women rearely think at all, that is why they are majority in religious places!

Abeg make una march break for this African nonsense...This demented assertions are they percuilar to only Africans...! Societal norms is not a DNA test.

Joshthefirst:
any one who is born again is a good handler.

Scriptures need to be rightly divided because charlatans can twist it and deceive many

By the evidence presented by all your post. I hereby confirm that ye' is a bonified charlatan....

TrueBorn:
Here's your answer. Pls be kind enough to read through it. Thanks.


That Jesus gave up His life that you might be saved. That’s a sacrifice.
Jesus said in John 10:18, “No one can take my life from Me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded."

He had the power to take it up or lay it down but rather He chose to give it up for our sake so that through His death, we may have life and deliverance from sin/ fallen nature. That’s a sacrifice.

We can’t even begin to quantify His agony, the agony that made His sweat become like drops of blood as He prayed fervently in the garden of Gethsemane.

He was in anguish because He was completely man but He had to do it because He loves you. That’s a sacrifice.

Despite the fact that He knew the horrors of what He was going to face, He still said, “Yet Father not My will but Your will be done.” That’s a sacrifice.
They rejected Him. He took it.

They mocked Him. He took it.

They slapped Him. He took it.

They yelled at Him. He took it.

They insulted him, beat him, pushed Him around, flogged Him with a lead tipped whip, yet He did not say a word in defense of Himself.


They drove a crown of thorns into His weary head and subjected Him to a gruesome and shameful death. Still He bore it, all for you. That is SACRIFICE.

You were on His mind as He walked down that long and dreary road to Calvary. Jesus put you first. That is Sacrifice.

It was important He rose from death. For His resurrection symbolizes total victory over death. This is the foundation of Christianity. This is what makes us who we are.

If Jesus did not rise from death our faith is futile. What’s the use believing in a dead God? But for the fact He rose, we live without the fear of death because we know we have hope. We will rise again just as Jesus did.

A spiritually myopic person cannot understand this. To him it is plain foolishness but God has used the foolish things of the world to shame the wise (1 Cor 1:27)


So when you sit down to curse out the Lord who gave His life that you might be saved by just believing in Him, please remember that ‘Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.’ (John 15:13) It means that Jesus loves you with an unquantifiable love even when you despise Him.

Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. He is the ultimate sacrifice!
Happy resurrection. Enjoy your holiday.

See d link===> nairaland.com/3009595/re-how-jesus-death-sacrifice

Lmao...!!!

Why believe in a god that can die..? That means he can be killed... Instead of him ressurecting and showing himself to a hand full of HIS CREW before ascending.
He should have visited the people that mastermind his beatings, and walked the streets where everyone saw him crying like a little bitcch 3 days prior.

His death put fear in your heart.... Tell me, why do you battle satan and his crew if you're not afraid of death. Stop decieving yourself...

Meanwhile, your guy jesus was a hippie in his time. He fuvked with the ruling class of his time. They set him up and nailed his azz to a cross like other common criminal... The died just like the two thieves. Finito!!!

KingEbukasBlog:
Errmm .... it is a belief . We believe through faith that God created the universe . He assures of his power by the signs and wonders which are evident in our lives as Christians - this validates our faith .

No one saw apes magically transforming into man or dinosaurs into birds . But you believe this happened through "studies" put out as evidence that such did . So the studies adduce reasons to support the theory - this then validates your faith in evolution .

So the belief in God and practices that show our acknowledgement of Him as the creator make up the Christian religion and the belief in evolution and studies that confirm the theory as true make up the "Evolution religion "

Epic nonsense!!!

You utilize a theory to get a result, and if it fails you discard it. Where does faith come in.

See what your babble has done to your mind...