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Christianity Etc › Re: Paul's Letters,Christianity And The Gospels.... by Goosethetruth(op): 3:19pm On Jul 31
MaxInDHouse:
You are talking about false religions i've told you several times that such things doesn't occur in the true religion:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!🙂
Guy,
The false doctrines of Jehovah witnesses is even uncountable compared to other sects of Christianity. The consistent false doctrine of the world coming to an end as postulated and pred icted by your leaders such as Charles Taze Russell who predicted the end of the world in 1914.
In fact Russell formulated the Watch tower pamphlet in order to extort money from his members before the expected end of the world in 1914.
In fact after Russell failed doom prophecy,he died and a leadership tussle broke out that led to the Watchtower sect scattering into different splinter groups of which one Joseph Rutherford was able to gain control of the largest splinter group and rename them Jehovahs Witness sect.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul's Letters,Christianity And The Gospels.... by Goosethetruth(op): 3:02pm On Jul 31
Dtruthspeaker:
You really should go and learn how to argue.

Apples are compared to apples and books are compared to books

So, your over extending the argument beyond that which is in issue and even adding to it just to give yourself an argument proves that you do not have any valid argument to make for they are fallacious.(Fallacy of appeal to the extreme and to the ridiculous/addition to post/Off Point)

So, clearly, you do not have any reasonable and valid argument to make in counter. So, this is you just making unnecessary noises
I am actually having fun with you because I know you must find a way to respond,no matter how ridiculous.
I am amused that you agree that the book of your tribal god is a work of fiction similar to Shakespare's books like Romeo and Juliet. In fact I agree that your gods book is similar to comics like Spiderman,Superman and Captain America. I will even go further to rate books like Homer's, Iliad and Odyssey as superior and better written works of fiction than your bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul's Letters,Christianity And The Gospels.... by Goosethetruth(op): 10:18am On Jul 31
Dtruthspeaker:
This is a very weak and fallacious argument. (Fallacy of division/transformation.

Shakespeare's works too got treated the same way, yet, his messages and lessons still resound all over the world., so your argument is null
Shakespeare versus god.
Macbeth versus gospels of mathew.
Merchant of Venice vs genesis.

Lol..😁😁
Guy ??
So you agree that Revelation is the same as Julius Ceasar? All are books of fiction.
You compare a book of an omniscient and omnipotent god to plays and books by a mere mortal playwright like Shakespeare. Soon you will compare your bible to Homer's Odyssey.
Guy you are so funny that it borders on ridiculous!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul's Letters,Christianity And The Gospels.... by Goosethetruth(op): 9:16pm On Jul 30
Lol...
Refusal to critically examine facts of religion is to close down logic and rely on blind faith.

That is why when your pastor needs money he asks for the congregation to donate money to him in the guise of different offerings and tithe while when the members of the congregation need money,the pastor advises them to pray. What an irony and a sad juxtaposition. 😃😃
Christianity Etc › Re: Hermann Detering On The Created Apostle Paul. by Goosethetruth(op): 9:08pm On Jul 30
MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!🥱
A simple question that I know you will dodge and begin to turn amala and ogbono soup.

Which came first? The Pauline letters or the untitled gospels?
Your time starts now.....tick tock!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does It Seem That The Closer You Get To God The More Spiritual Battles Incr? by Goosethetruth(m): 9:05pm On Jul 30
Dtruthspeaker:
That is because you are speaking from your small village mind if not you would have seen that what Christian saw is that as Wike was not bothered about Fubara so also was God not bothered about satan. And as Wike mocked Fubara that he would lose to his man, so also was God mocking Satan boasting that he could not defeat His man Job! Simple and common sensical thing but wisdom is far from you, you never saw this view. So you see how you prove that you atheists are fu....s?
Fubara/Wike- mere metals.
god/satan- self claimed spiritual being.

Now tell me how this is a logical example? I know your brain cells are creaking because it is a difficult task for a religionist.

A so called passionate,loving and benevolent god allowed satan his so called enemy to destroy all the belongings and family of his loyal servant Job. Now make that make sense to any rational being!
The same way this god has allowed and promoted hunger,sickness,poverty,earthquakes,slavery,misogyny, hatred,cancer,drought,wars,and every kind of civil strife. Do you know why? Because it does not exist and is a figment of the imagination of ordinary men in order to control and subjugate other men.
Christianity Etc › Re: Hermann Detering On The Created Apostle Paul. by Goosethetruth(op): 6:34pm On Jul 30
Early christianity was just a giant cauldron of confusion and chaos that was finally cobbled together by the Romans,using the falsified Pauline letters to write the untitled gospels.
Christianity Etc › Re: Act And React Like A Christian by Goosethetruth(m): 12:34pm On Jul 30
Btruth:
Act and react like a Christian

Thu, 30 Jul 2026

“You have heard that it was said…But I say to you.” Matthew 5:21-22

Around the turn of the nineteenth century, a Russian physician named Ivan Pavlov won a Nobel Prize for his experiments with dogs. All of them had one thing in common—they salivated around food. But Pavlov wanted to find out if salivation could be caused by another stimulus, so he conditioned the dogs by ringing a bell before feeding them.

Eventually the dinner bell caused salivation, even if the food wasn’t served. Pavlov referred to this learned relationship as a conditioned reflex. We have all been consciously or subconsciously conditioned our entire lives. Much of our behaviour was dictated by those conditioned reflexes. Some conditioned reflexes are as normal and natural as a blush. Others are as destructive as drinking to drown your sorrows. But conscious or subconscious, harmless or harmful, one thing is certain: we are far more conditioned than we realise. And one dimension of our spiritual growth is being reconditioned by the grace of God. Jesus said, “You have heard that it was said…But I say to you.” Jesus uses this couplet repeatedly. What was He doing? He was uninstalling Old Testament applications and reinstalling New Testament truths. It was no longer “An eye for an eye.” Jesus upgraded it to “Turn to them the other cheek,” which required reconditioned reflexes (See Matthew 5:38-39 NIV). Sometimes it’s much easier to act like a Christian than to react like one. How does this change in our reactions take place? By the Holy Spirit. “We are being changed to be like him [Jesus]. This change…comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit” (2 Corinthians 3:18 NCV).
Lol...😁
Christians are so dishonest. They are dishonest to themselves and dishonest to others.
Jesus never once in his ministry uninstalled any old Testament rules. Rather he consistently and constantly emphasised that he was first a jew and was not on earth to dispute jewish traditions. In fact jesus was a Jewish apocalyptic teacher who thought the world was about to end during his life time. He taught his disciples that most of them would not taste death before he returned a second time. A prophecy which turned out to be false.
Jesus was not the jewish messiah and never fulfilled a single prophecy of the jewish messiah.
Read your religious book and educate yourself!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does It Seem That The Closer You Get To God The More Spiritual Battles Incr? by Goosethetruth(m): 12:22pm On Jul 30
ApstAdejimi001:
Why Does It Seem That the Closer You Get to God, the More Spiritual Battles Increase? (A Biblical Perspective)
Good day, Nairalanders.

One question many Christians sincerely ask is:
"Why does it seem that whenever I become serious with God, spiritual attacks increase?"

This is an important question, but it also requires a balanced biblical answer.

The Bible does not teach that every difficulty after drawing closer to God is a direct attack from demons. Some challenges are spiritual warfare, some are part of God's refining process, while others are simply the realities of living in a fallen world.

Let's consider Jesus Christ.
Immediately after His baptism, God declared:
"This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." (Matthew 3:17)
What happened next?
The Holy Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness, where He was tempted by Satan (Matthew 4:1–11).
Notice something remarkable:
God's approval came before the wilderness.
The wilderness was not evidence that God had abandoned Jesus. It was part of preparing Him for His public ministry.

The New Testament uses the Greek word πειρασμός (Peirasmos), meaning trial, testing, or temptation.
The same situation can have two different purposes:
God allows trials to strengthen our faith.
Satan seeks to use temptation to lead us into sin.

Another important Greek word is δόκιμος (Dokimos), meaning approved after testing.
Just as gold becomes purer through fire, genuine faith becomes stronger through perseverance.

This pattern appears throughout Scripture:
Joseph received dreams before prison.
David was anointed before becoming king.
Daniel entered the lions' den before witnessing God's deliverance.
Paul experienced persecution after receiving great revelations.
Jesus carried the Cross before wearing the Crown.
Even nature teaches this principle.
The eagle rises higher because of strong winds.
The cedar tree develops deeper roots during storms.
Stars shine brightest in the darkest night.
Sometimes the pressure you're experiencing is not a sign that God has left you.
It may be a sign that God is preparing you for greater purpose.

James 4:7 gives us the proper order:
"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."
Notice that submission comes before resistance.
Victory begins with intimacy with God.

Apostle Adejimi Revelation Research System (ARRS)

Revelation;

Greater intimacy with God often exposes deeper spiritual realities.

Research;

Study the lives of Joseph, Moses, David, Daniel, Jesus Christ, Peter and Paul. In each case, greater divine purpose was often followed by greater opposition.

System;

Never measure your closeness to God by the size of your battles.
Measure it by:
Your obedience to God's Word.
The fruit of the Holy Spirit.
Your growing likeness to Jesus Christ.
Fortress Insight
The enemy is not intimidated by religious activity.
He fears genuine transformation.
The greatest evidence of spiritual maturity is not the absence of battles, but unwavering faith in the middle of them.
"Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world." (1 John 4:4)

What is your perspective on this? Have you experienced seasons where your walk with God became deeper and life became more challenging? Let's discuss respectfully.


— Apostle Adejimi Johnson Soyibo
Fortress Insights
Biblical Intelligence • Apostolic Theology • Kingdom Wisdom
Oga,
According to your religious books,the devil and your god are pals playing bet Naira and kalokalo with your life.
Please read the book of Job chapter 1 verses 6-12 and Job chapter 2 verses 1-6.

These verses that show that god and Satan are good friends, are in your religious books,but then Christians never read their book but rather wait for pastors to read it for them.😄
Nairaland General › Re: Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 11:59am On Jul 30
LordReed:
That is the thing I have been here long and I don't know what agenda you are talking about. Tell me what agenda you think he has.
Okay, you are right.
Christianity Etc › Re: Forgive As You Were Forgiven by Goosethetruth(m): 11:58am On Jul 30
budaatum:
I am so glad I am cracking you up, and I agree with your humble opinion.

Jesus who told Peter to forgive someone seventy times seven times would very likely not be burning his father's creation in an incinerator for eternity for fewer sins than that. Thankfully, brimstone and fire God handed authority to meek and gentle and forgiving Jesus whom I guess will get to decide.
Lol...😄
You are so on point.
Nairaland General › Re: Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 3:09pm On Jul 29
LordReed:
Why?
You have been here long enough. You should know what I mean. The guy only does what suits his agenda.
Christianity Etc › Re: Forgive As You Were Forgiven by Goosethetruth(m): 9:01am On Jul 29
budaatum:
I've not found that most Christians believers mix logic with faith, and in fact find most definitely don't link faith with works. If they did they wouldn't be praying for their daily bread but would otherwise work for it with all their hearts and souls and minds and beings and moreso with the sweat off their own brow. But I'll set that aside for now.

My life principle is to love others, period. I do not measure my love for others by how much I love myself, because others might require more love from me than I love myself. Nor do I not expect others to love me because I love them, because the fact I love them does not oblige them to love me in return. In fact, I've found people I love can choose to hate me and there's nothing I can do about it but love them even more.

As for doing, no, I do not "Do to others what you expect them to do unto you". I do onto you what is right and proper, period, with no expectation that my doing would be rewarded with equal doing from you. And my forgiveness of those who trespass against me does not guarantee they will forgive my trespasses against them, and nor should I expect they would as if it is some right I have earned or owed.

Hope this makes sense, though you might disagree.
Buda,
You are cracking me up.
Burning your acclaimed creation in an incinerator for eternity does not portray any spirit of forgiveness in my humble opinion.😀
Nairaland General › Re: Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 8:57am On Jul 29
LordReed:
Seun is an atheist so that is unlikely.
I know that,but I don't trust him one bit. It is not beyond him.
Nairaland General › Re: Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 2:11am On Jul 29
budaatum:
Sorry Goosethetruth, first I'm going to have to call you truth. I hope you don't mind. The above made me laugh some.

Atheists don't care how intolerant and parochial any religion is, is what I think. We put on our full armor and take our stand.



I don't like this bit at all, truth.

Provide evidence, please.



This bit? See image below.



Truth! Did you just wish oblivion on your neighbour whom one must love, regardless, like turn the other cheek regardless?

P.s. I got 6 weeks of whistling.
You had me laughing out loud,buda. On a side note, I get a feeling that Seun is the moderator in the Christian/etc section. The OAM4J listed as the mod is just a place holder in my opinion. I could be wrong.
Nairaland General › Re: Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 8:55pm On Jul 28
LordReed:
We don't even need to lebel it Atheists/Agnostics/Free thinkers section, just call it Philosophy section and we are good to go.

Seun we've been calling on you to do this for some time now, I dunno what the hang up about it is.
Thanks bro.
He should do the needful.
Nairaland General › Re: Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 8:53pm On Jul 28
@Seun,
Do the right thing.
Is it because you are scared of the religionists? You need to take a decision on this simple issue.
A philosophy section will be greatly appreciated and will end all forms of agro.
If you have a section for sexuality then a section for Philosophy is a must!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists More Obsessed With Religion Than So-called Religious People? by Goosethetruth(m): 6:18pm On Jul 28
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Mariangeles:
I have never come across a people so obsessed with religion, and "religious people".

For a set of people that claim to not care about religion, how come they're so obsessed, huh?

Me for instance, I don't concern myself with what I don't care about.
I consider it a total waste of time and energy.
https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality and the ten commandments by Goosethetruth(m): 6:17pm On Jul 28
TheMadame:
Jesus modified these ten commandments into two commandments in the New Testament . Jesus said:
1. Love your God with all your heart
and soul.

2. Love your neighbor as yourself.

This is found in the Gospel of Mathew Chapter 22. Verses 37-39.



Chapter 22.

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.




Does all morality come from the 10 commandments and the subsequent paraphrasing by our Lord Jesus Christ? I sincerely believe it does. The 10 commandments are the basis of all forms of morality and moral justice.
Love God with all your heart and do onto your neighbor as you will have them do onto you.

Good day everyone.
https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality and the ten commandments by Goosethetruth(m): 6:13pm On Jul 28
TheMadame:
God is setting out the basis and terms by which he will love and protect his people.
It is a terms for an agreement. Once you agree to these terms you will come under the broad love and protection of God Almighty. These are very simple moral codes to follow.
The terms set out in the beginning of the ten commandments are a miniscule price to pay to attain eternal life,don't you agree?
Please look at this.


https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive Anyone Who Sins? by Goosethetruth(m): 6:10pm On Jul 28
kingxsamz:
You mean the same god that planted the tree and gave the serpent access to the garden?
How can he forgive Adam when his plan was to set him up for failure?
That's like asking why bandits can't stop terrorising people.
Please,join this request.


https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive Anyone Who Sins? by Goosethetruth(m): 6:09pm On Jul 28
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists More Obsessed With Religion Than So-called Religious People? by Goosethetruth(m): 6:08pm On Jul 28
budaatum:
I am an atheist, and I care quite a lot about peoples' religions because their religion is very pervasive in the society that I live in.

I mean, imagine a society with an ideology of being that naked enslaved ignorant Adam who fears knowledge, and not recognising how Eve freed him so he can be self employed to populate the earth, or not understanding what it means to be the Image of the Gods who eat fruits of knowledge that empowers a people to rule the earth and subdue it and multiply or at least rule their society well and be blessed if only we could understand.

In religious societies, religion is the ideology and philosophy people live by, and not using our heads while expecting the Gods to come from heaven to feed us will result in us crying NEPA while we starve in darkness.

If religious people sought understanding instead of just believing, I'd personally not be bothered by them.
Please lend your beautiful voice here.

https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists More Obsessed With Religion Than So-called Religious People? by Goosethetruth(m): 6:03pm On Jul 28
jaephoenix:
Theists especially Christians disturb me early in the mornings with loudspeakers. Muslims do their own morning shout earlier. Christians disturb me with midnight prayers and worship. As I get to my car,they block me and hand me fliers,which I just ignore. They knock on my door to preach 'good news'. They block the rod while I'm going to work,so I have to take detours. And whats worse,they call me devil's child(which i dont mind)
So yes,I'll talk about religion though i dont interfere in their topics where they talk about doctrines
Good day,
Please have a look at this and decide if you want to support this.

https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists More Obsessed With Religion Than So-called Religious People? by Goosethetruth(m): 6:01pm On Jul 28
LordReed:
After spending a whole lifetime being told a god exists that cares about you only to discover it's balderdash you don't see how it can be paradigm shifting?

Also we get people like you talking about us so don't be surprised.
Good day
Please have a look at this and support if you can.
May Odin bless you.😄



https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists More Obsessed With Religion Than So-called Religious People? by Goosethetruth(m): 5:59pm On Jul 28
NerdCat:
Imagine confusing an unsparing intellectual dismantling with an ad hominem just because it hurt your fickle pride. Please grab hold of a paper bag, take a deep breath, read slowly, and actually address the arguments. It wasn't written in Spanish. But then again, it's also genuinely hilarious watching you hide behind logic terms you clearly skimmed on Wikipedia just five minutes ago.



Equating complex natural ecosystems to a manufactured iPhone is so painfully reductive it belongs in a middle-school Sunday class. You haven't discharged anything except your complete and embarrassing ignorance of biology.



If an iPhone needs a maker due to its complexity, then an all-knowing cosmic deity requires an infinitely more complex creator. You can't grant your God an exemption without committing glaring special pleading. Try again, my friend, because nothing here is settled except your defeat. And by the way, labeling an inevitable critique "fallacious" before it's even uttered is a textbook "poison the well" strategy. Although I guess - on the bright side - it shows you already know that your argument is utterly defenseless against basic logic.



So she "dabbled" in atheism and left. Who cares? Truth isn't determined by personal anecdotes or temporary ideological pitstops. People drift back into dogma for emotional security all the time. Using her journey as validation just shows how utterly desperate you are for external confirmation.



We address Christianity because you’re the ones aggressively trying to dictate societal norms. Get over yourself, stop crying and defend your logic like an adult. You've cornered yourself in a labyrinth of your own abysmal logic.



Smh. Isn't it too early for you to be waving this tattered, paper-thin white flag disguised as a salty parting shot?
Please have a look at this thread.


https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists More Obsessed With Religion Than So-called Religious People? by Goosethetruth(m): 5:58pm On Jul 28
HeatSeeker:
There are several ways to look at it.

1). Maybe because religious people are always in your face. Every corner you turn in modern day Nigeria, you see or meet religion. Even in everyday language, people always reference God. Nigerians are among the most religious people on earth. So, it makes sense for a Nigerian atheist to act in a manner that suggests that they are obsessed about religion. The religionist simply will not leave you alone.

2). Atheism is itself a belief system. And every belief system requires adherents to convert people to their ways. What you call obsession on the path of the atheist can be likened to religious zeal to win more converts.
Please have a look at this threaad.



https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seunthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Nairaland General › Re: Absurdity by Goosethetruth(op): 5:43pm On Jul 28
budaatum:
I must confess that I tire for him not listening to feedback.
Lol...😄😄
We should not give up on him. @Seun,can't keep living in denial. The day the Free thinkers/ Philosophy/Agnostics/ Atheist is opened is the day the Christianity/etc section dies like the Islamic section!
Nairaland General › Re: Absurdity by Goosethetruth(op): 4:28pm On Jul 28
budaatum:
I wasn't aware it wasn't in the religious section when I responded, and actually assumed it was, to be honest.

It really is a shame that seun seems to be learning nothing from the twitter he dwells on, but I bet it was not him who moved the post, but a mod. And if they don't like non-christian posts in the Christian section, then perhaps they should just create a thinking section for those who think!
Budaa,
I opened this thread addressed to Seun in the christianity/ etc section but it was pushed to the General section immediately. That shows that Seun is behind all the problems in the christianity/etc section.
You may judge by yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/8717970/seenthere-need-free-thinkers-section
Nairaland General › Re: Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 4:22pm On Jul 28
@Seun, you can't keep hiding like an ostrich.
A lie of one thousand years will be exposed by the truth of a minute.
Nairaland General › Seun,there Is A Need For Free Thinkers Section. by Goosethetruth(op): 4:17pm On Jul 28
@Seun,
Good day to you.
I appreciate you sincerely for creating this wonderful forum that is divided into different sections. Initially there was a Religion section that harboured all forms of religion as well as free thinkers,agnostics and atheists. At a point in time the Islamists threatened your person and Nairaland.com as a forum that led to you creating an Islamic section for them.
It is pertinent to state that the Christians have become as intolerant as the Islamists and in a parochial way believe that the Christian and etc belongs to them solely.
This is juxtaposed with the fact that whoever is the moderator of this Christianity and etc section is a biased Christian that has been hiding any posts opposed to Christianity and hiding such posts.
No free thinkers/agnostic/free thinkers posts are ever moved to the front page by whoever is the moderator of the Christian/etc section. However that is not my grouse. The moderator has been banning and hiding posts from free thinkers/agnostics and atheists while consistently promoting threads from Christian posters.

In my humble opinion, the time has come to separate the wheat from the chaff. Please create a Atheists/Agnostics/Free thinkers section so that the Christianity section can sink into oblivion like the Islamists section.
Thanks.
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality and the ten commandments by Goosethetruth(m): 3:58pm On Jul 28
MaxInDHouse:
So do you have the true religion?🙂
All religions and gods are creations of other men and I want every Christian to know they are going to burn in the hell fire of the Islamic God and vice versa.

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