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gohf:
bro you are condemned already for being a slave to sin which Jesus came to set you free from.

By the way did you know not all slaves were forced or slaves of war, some where situational slaves who sold themselves off so as to survive

Slavery was also a fun of punishment like imprisonment,

Johnfaithsexy:
When it comes to biblical discussions like this,am always careful not to engage in a debate with heathens and atheist,because it's like the case of beating or flogging a dead horse,the ten commandments are simply guidelines handed to mankind to guide and direct them on how to please their maker and doing so, prevent the wrath and the consequences that follows with those actions and also how to have a cool relationship with your neighbors and the people around,I don't know why anyone would say God has ego,are you serious right now?do you really think God need your approval to be God?do you really think if we disobey Him,He cease to be God?do you think if we steal, murder and commit attrocities, that God will be punished?do you think God need anything from man to make him God?hell no,God is God whether you are a atheist,heathen or whatever,those commandments are for the good of mankind

onehope:
Well, maybe you created yourself otherwise you won't spew these trash. Every manufacturer, manufactures to meet a need or fulfill a purpose. Automobiles, aircraft, houses, etc were conceived and created by men to serve men. Man was conceived and created by God to serve God. Use yourself as a case study: You went to school to benefit who? You are doing business to benefit who? You are working hard on the farmland to benefit who? It is my prayer for you to realize that you are nothing without God your maker just as a Car in itself is nothing without Men. John 15vs4-5. Receive sense in Jesus name:

femi4:
Ignorance uprising

only 3 out of 10 talked about man relating to God

Most of them centered around how you relate with your neighbour/friends/family/community etc

E.g

Thou shall not kill, steal, covet, commit adultery

Respect/honour your parents

Forgiveness

gohf:
If you are clever by a 'full' then you should learn what extole and encourage means before you misuse it like a 'full'

So let those who are wise read and check how did God, praise, make high, glorify, support, motivate, recommend or give a command for establishing slavery

Exod.21.2 "If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. (NIV)

Humans decided to take each other has slaves and Moses wrote laws to govern the behavior of Israelites towards their slaves remembering they were one slaves. So because a person is a slave to you doesn't mean he can do and undo to them, you shall not commit murder, their freedom belongs to you not their life.

Exod.21.19 - If the injured person is later able to walk again, even with a crutch, the assailant will be innocent. Nonetheless, the assailant must pay for time lost because of the injury and must pay for the medical expenses.
Exod.21.20 - "If a male or female slave is beaten and dies, the owner must be punished.
Exod.21.21 - If the slave recovers after a couple of days, however, then the owner should not be punished, since the slave is the owner's property.
Exod.21.22 - "Now suppose two people are fighting, and in the process, they hurt a pregnant woman so her child is born prematurely. If no further harm results, then the person responsible must pay damages in the amount the woman's husband demands and the judges approve.


God frees slaves and prisoners yet they both still exist.

God nor His church established slavery, the apostles taught how we should treat and love people around us. What? Were you expecting the church to abolish the government of the world?

Col.3.22 - You slaves must obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Obey them willingly because of your reverent fear of the Lord.
Col.3.23 - Work hard and cheerfully at whatever you do, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people.

Bro most Nigerians are slave, we work for what we eat and what we wear daily, the rest is taken away by our owners or leaders. The church had no legal authority to abolish Roman slavery, or you want to use your cleverness by a "ful" to tell us how the church would have abolished it or should they have told them, rebel, kill your masters, rape their daughters, hurt them back.

Okay, Peter, I bet you didn't read those verse nor will you read this, Mr. Clever
1Pet.2.17 - Show respect for everyone. Love your Christian brothers and sisters. Fear God. Show respect for the king.
1Pet.2.18 - You who are slaves must accept the authority of your masters. Do whatever they tell you--not only if they are kind and reasonable, but even if they are harsh.
1Pet.2.19 - For God is pleased with you when, for the sake of your conscience, you patiently endure unfair treatment.
1Pet.2.20 - Of course, you get no credit for being patient if you are beaten for doing wrong. But if you suffer for doing right and are patient beneath the blows, God is pleased with you.
1Pet.2.21 - This suffering is all part of what God has called you to. Christ, who suffered for you, is your example. Follow in his steps.


1Tim.6.1 Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. (NLT)

Or serve so well, wait that's what Joseph did and some how he ended up in prison nah, he passed through the prison and became the prime minister of the greatest nation of that era.

The gospel was also for the slaves not for them to be enslaved but for them to find freedom even in humanly caused situation, to focus on serving God and look at their situation as an opportunity to show God's love. Whether you are free or a slave.

Eph.6.5 - Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.
Eph.6.6 - Work hard, but not just to please your masters when they are watching. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart.
Eph.6.7 - Work with enthusiasm, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people.
Eph.6.8 - Remember that the Lord will reward each one of us for the good we do, whether we are slaves or free.
Eph.6.9 - And in the same way, you masters must treat your slaves right. Don't threaten them; remember, you both have the same Master in heaven, and he has no favorites.

TenQ:
See how intelligent you are!?




The scripture is proved real
Ps 14:1:
"The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good."

Goosethetruth:
TenQ,

You are just being clever by half.
The Christian Bible and God consistently extole the virtue of slavery and in fact advocates for it constantly. Like I said earlier instead of using the first three commandments to emphasise self,the Christian God could have simply condemned slavery.

Here are passages from the Bible that extole and encourage slavery as an institution of virtue. Please get out your Bible and fact check me!

1.Exodus chapter 21 verses 20-21
2.Exodus chapter 21 verse 2.
3. Leviticus chapter 25. Verse 44.
And if in your usual way of deflection that the New Testament has wiped away the old laws here is the books of the New Testament glorifying and promoting slavery as a virtue.
Please open your Bible to the New Testament to fact check me again!!!

3. Colossians chapter 3 verse 22.
4. 1st Peter chapter 2 verse 18.
5. 1st Timothy chapter 6 verse 1.
Ephesians chapter6 verse 5.

Now you are free to start contorting like a pretzel and start turning Eba and Amala.
Lol..

TenQ:
The only evidence that can make the quote outdated is if you have EVIDENCE on the contrary.

Stop deflecting and answer the question.


If at all you succeed in making and producing autonomous AI robots, will your rules be about what you want or what they want?








Ps 14:1:
"The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good."

gohf:
thou shall not steal, oh don't you understand that forced slavery is stolen freedom?
Why don't you understand that?

Dtruthspeaker:
Why are you all calling and crying Tinubu?

If Tinubu was your friend, would you cry and wail like others?

See, you lack wisdom

TenQ:
If at all you succeed in making and producing autonomous AI robots, will your rules be about what you want or what they want?


Ps 14:1:
"The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good."

Dtruthspeaker:
How does our not doing what He wants affect Him? Is it not you people that suffer and cry.(Today's world has already proven it.) So, you see, you think unwisely

TheMadame:
Sir,
Check the title of the thread. This thread is based on the commandments in Exodus and not the entire Mosaic laws. You have still not provided a source that proves these commandments were not from God to Moses and that they were stolen from Babylonian moral laws.

TheMadame:
Plagiarism is a strong word,sir. There may have been Babylonian influences on the Mosaic laws but there is certainly no evidence of Plagiarism. If you have such evidence could you please provide a source for this your claim.

TheMadame:
I hope you know and understand that once you love your neighbor as you love yourself and do onto your neighbor as you would do unto yourself, you will not enslave them. Some of these laws simply need a thought process. It is not every morality that need to be written down.

TheMadame:
God is setting out the basis and terms by which he will love and protect his people.
It is a terms for an agreement. Once you agree to these terms you will come under the broad love and protection of God Almighty. These are very simple moral codes to follow.
The terms set out in the beginning of the ten commandments are a miniscule price to pay to attain eternal life,don't you agree?

TheMadame:
The ten commandments,that God gave to Moses,and inscribed on two stone tablets, are found in Exodus Chapter 20 verses 1-17.

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20 And God spoke all these words:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

Richtaiwo:
https://www.channelstv.com/2026/06/24/terrorism-court-imposes-death-penalty-on-three-including-foreigner-arrested-by-dss/

ariesbull:
Blablabla

ariesbull:
Nigeria's democracy is strongest when every major component of the federation feels a sense of belonging and inclusion. Since the return to democratic rule in 1999, the presidency has been occupied by leaders from different regions of the country. The South-West has produced a president, the North-West has produced presidents, and the South-South has also occupied the highest office. Yet, the South-East remains the only major geopolitical zone that has not had the opportunity to produce a democratically elected president in the Fourth Republic.

Giving the Igbo a chance at the presidency should not merely be viewed as an ethnic concession; it should be seen as a commitment to fairness, national unity, and the principles of federal character upon which Nigeria was founded. A nation thrives when all groups believe they have an equal stake in its future.

Beyond the argument of equity, the South-East has consistently demonstrated remarkable entrepreneurial capacity, resilience, innovation, and commitment to economic development. Across Nigeria, Igbo entrepreneurs have built businesses, created jobs, and contributed significantly to commerce, manufacturing, and trade. The region has produced numerous professionals, academics, technocrats, and business leaders who have excelled both within Nigeria and internationally.

The question before Nigerians should not be, "Where is the candidate from?" but rather, "Who has the competence, vision, integrity, and capacity to lead?" Modern nations progress when merit takes precedence over ethnic considerations. Countries that have achieved sustainable development did so by prioritizing leadership quality over tribal, religious, or regional sentiments.

Nigeria has paid a heavy price for politics driven by ethnicity, nepotism, and sectional interests. Tribalism has often divided citizens, weakened national cohesion, and distracted the country from addressing pressing challenges such as insecurity, unemployment, poverty, infrastructure deficits, and economic growth. The future of Nigeria depends on moving beyond these divisions and embracing a culture where leadership is earned through performance and ability.

The South-East has produced individuals with proven records in governance, business, public administration, academia, and industry. Therefore, Nigerians should evaluate candidates from the region with an open mind and on the basis of their ideas, competence, and track records rather than ethnic stereotypes or historical prejudices.

Giving an Igbo candidate a fair opportunity to contest and potentially lead the nation would send a powerful message that Nigeria belongs to all its citizens. It would strengthen national integration, deepen democratic participation, and reinforce the belief that every Nigerian, regardless of ethnic background, can aspire to the highest office in the land.

Ultimately, the call is not for Nigerians to support a candidate simply because he or she is Igbo. Rather, it is a call to reject tribalism and nepotism, embrace meritocracy, and judge every candidate by their vision, competence, character, and ability to deliver results. A united and prosperous Nigeria can only emerge when citizens place national interest above ethnic loyalties and choose leaders based on what they can achieve for the country as a whole.

CharlesCNG:
When the Bully Starts Crying: The Obidient Problem.

One of the most revealing things about the Obidient movement is not only what it says, but how it behaves. It is loud when attacking others, but fragile when the same fire is returned. That contradiction is not accidental. It is the psychology of a confused bully-mob.

A normal political movement accepts scrutiny as part of democracy. A bully-mob accepts scrutiny only when it is directed at others. Once attention turns toward its own camp, it begins to squeal about persecution, bias, and unfairness. That is why Obidients can spend months mocking Tinubu, Atiku, Soludo, APC, ADC, NDC, and almost anybody who disagrees with them, yet suddenly become emotional when Peter Obi receives sharp criticism in return. What changed? Nothing — except the direction of the cannon.

That is how mob bullies behave. They do not really believe in free speech, robust debate, or scrutiny as a principle. What they want is a monopoly of aggression. [/i]They want to throw stones without hearing the sound of broken glass behind them. They want the right to mock, insult, and pressure everybody else, but they do not want anybody else to answer in the same language. [i]So they keep trying to occupy two opposite moral positions at once: fearsome aggressor on Monday, helpless victim by Tuesday.

That is why their politics often looks confused. Yesterday, negative attention to Tinubu meant accountability. Today, negative attention to Obi means obsession. Yesterday, sharp criticism was civic courage. Today, it is “too much focus” on a private citizen.

The deeper danger is that this behaviour produces political delusion. Once a movement begins to romanticize all criticism as proof of secret strength, it loses the ability to self-correct. Instead of asking, “Why are people pushing back against us?” it begins to flatter itself with fantasies: “We are too important. They are afraid of us. The attacks prove we already won.”

That is how movements detach from reality. They stop studying voters and begin studying enemies. They stop building persuasion and begin rehearsing victimhood.

In the end, a bully-mob is always shocked by resistance because it mistakes its own noise for moral superiority. But noise is not virtue. Aggression is not argument. And mob energy is not leadership.
The Obidient problem, therefore, is not merely that they are loud. It is that they are loud without symmetry — eager to dish out scrutiny, but unable to digest it when it returns.