Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:25am On Jul 08, 2020 |
johnw47: dimwit dullard lying pharisee fraud jw janosky
i asked you to post the verses, where did i call them lies? oh great false accuser like your daddy the devil:
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. I like the way you guys think, any one who doesn't agree with your perspective instantly becomes the devil, even you fellow Christian. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:20am On Jul 08, 2020 |
achorladey: Don't bother to explain what the parable meant. The parable is clear enough. What should be your area of concern is the below......
Don't forget TRUE CHRISTIANITY ceased to exist after the DEATH of the apostles(+/-100 C.E)......according to teachings of JWs. Meaning all WHEAT are DEAD.
JESUS parable didn't say all WHEAT dies. In fact it didn't say the WHEAT DIES rather both grow till HARVEST.
Who were his associates and from where did they all including RUSSELL COME FROM? A. WEEDS B. WHEATS.( don't forget all WHEAT are died before this particular time)
You said they REJECTED unscriptural doctrines. Interesting! What was their beliefs before REJECTION started(who taught them what they rejected) who baptized all of this associate including RUSSELL? A. Weeds B. Wheats Maximus right now.
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:15am On Jul 08, 2020 |
brocab: Yeh bro-every time this verse comes up-they hide themselves away from it,.. {Matthew 5:43-48} “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ... I heard you worshiped idol? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:25am On Jul 08, 2020 |
So maximus69 what global problems the rule in the mist of Jehovah's witness solve. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:18am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Maximus69: Exactly!
Christianity began in the year 29ce and disappeared after the death of the last Apostle, it resurfaced in 1919. That's why you can't find any religion claiming Christians without the use of force or weapons like JWs, Jesus forbids the use of force and weapons for his own true followers!  Maximus I'm going to leave our conversation and be honest with you. Do you know without the Yahweh Christians, the Bible wouldn't have spread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:14am On Jul 08, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:11am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Here's your Trinity, look no further.
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:09am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Maximus69: There was nothing like Christianity throughout the earth before 1919 when Jesus restructured his group and commissioned them once again to continue the preaching and teaching work they were doing in the first century!
Charles Taze Russell and his group did all they could to find out how Jesus established Christianity, himself and many in his time did so many things to get it right but it was in 1919 that Jesus in the spirit reorganized those who were willing to take corrections and began leading them in the work he started before Satan halted it after the death of his Apostles.
So those who came to Africa were politicians not Christians Sir!  So you're saying the Christianity that existed before Jehovah's witness is fake. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:07am On Jul 08, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:02am On Jul 08, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:59pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Hmmmmmmmm that's a million dollar joke Sir!
There is just one Christian nation globally, they worship in SPIRIT and in TRUTH, they're Jehovah's Witnesses. That's why Jesus said true worshipers don't need to be in one place as a nation, but you'll notice that the same constitution is what they're all using just as each worldly nation use one constitution! Micah 4:5 compare to act 15:14  I meant are you familiar with how Christianity spread through the use of Templars. Apparently you didn't understand the question but answer anyway, smh. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:55pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: The proof of the pudding is in the eating, so here is an opportunity to taste the pudding. 1/ How did the God appeared to Moses? 2/ How did God reveal Himself to Moses? 3/ God personally appeared to Moses how?
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:52pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Good! Now you're talking! So if Jesus is the Prince of Peace, how come peace can't reign in the midst of those who claims they know him?
That's why Jesus said "by their FRUIT, you will know (whether they're for me or not)" Matthew 7:20  So Islam is the true religion and we can now blame Satan for the wrongs. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:49pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: The whole world tried to reunite the east and west Germany decades after the death of Adulf Hitler, it was Jehovah's Witnesses conventions that put all other religions to shame as they saw JWs from east and west Germany converge in a place in the name of one God (JEHOVAH) and Germany will never forget what Hitler did to JWs, mind you it was the same spot where Hitler declared that he will make sure he eradicate JWs in Germany that our convention was held that year. That was how easy and west Germany came back again as one nation.
South Africa is another example, when Apartheid was the order of the day in that country, none of all the religious groups could make their followers worship together as one, but during our convention in South Africa, the news that year went round the world that Jehovah's Witnesses have conquered the racial prejudice happening in South Africa, shame couldn't allow the other religions to rest until they ended apartheid after meetings upon meetings by religious leaders from other groups!
So Jehovah's Witnesses are making impact on people around them even though the peace have remained only amongst us!  How is any of this Global? should I give you example of what global problems are. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:45pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
wait o, on a serious note, why can't any of you ask your God if he is divided into 3 or not.
Muttleylaff Maximus69
theyarescaredofgettingdifferentanswer |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:43pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: God is not limited to a million pieces split. This is a fact thats incontestable I wouldn't know, it's like any of you can just ask him, my guess you'll all have a different answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:39pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: I was once a Muslim and i'm telling you now that there is no single Islamic group that doesn't use weapons. Remember i was a soldier, the reason why we carry weapons is not to kill but to make peace by forcing our opponents to surrender their weapons. So i know exactly what i'm saying that there can never be peace when people make use of force and weapons to settle disputes! Matthew 26:52 Only Jehovah's Witnesses Organization does all things without using a single weapon nor force to settle their differences!  But Christians country also have military with guns, and still kill with it. A you familiar with how Christianity spread through Tempers. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:36pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Those who finds it difficult to make LOVE JOY and PEACE reign in their midst, are the sign that makes us Jehovah's Witnesses! Their inability to make peace is the undeniable evidence that a Supreme Being is the one behind the peace in our midst! Micah 4:1-3  Remembered Satan is responsible, not their religion. The same way Christian says the work of the devil. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:33pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:30pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: It had great influence on people my dear, whenever they see JWs come together from different races even counties or nations that are fighting and killing one another, shame catches all other groups and they're so terrified seeing a group settling all racial prejudice and differences in their midst! Matthew 5:13-16  So you religion makes shame to catch people, any global historic event.
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:26pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Janosky: John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15. 17:17
Passionate for the truth Jesus Christ spoke.
 Keep going my brother.
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:25pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: That's the image of God as found in man, God is Love so it's natural to see humans who will find it hard to support killing of other humans like themselves. That's why Jesus said "by the fruit your religious Organization is bearing, you should know who planted it" Matthew 7:16-19
Islam supposed to be a religion of PEACE because they're taught to greet you with PEACE, but where God's spirit is not operational, there is nothing you can do to establish the peace that only God could give through Jesus Christ our Lord! John 14:27 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4
So even if a peaceful person finds himself in the wrong religion there is nothing he can do to instill peace in the heart of adherents of a violent religion! Genesis 16:11-12  What makes you think there's no peace in Islam, remember Satan is the one controlling the evil doer's. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:22pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
achorladey: You should have restricted it to their midst. That people voluntary leave the community of JWs says the rules don't really bind them.
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:18pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: The bolded is your PERSONAL opinion Sir!
He is LOVE! 1John 4:8 And LOVE never fail! 1Corinthians 13:8  But love don't exist in the whole world, we can also say, he that is love doesn't exist, in other words, your God doesn't exist. Are you familiar with Joseph Campbell. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:14pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Are you sure of that?  Like you said, it only exist in you small circle. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:12pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Janosky: John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15 have solved this GIBBERISH you take dey console yourself Look how passionate you are. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:10pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: If they're not reaching out to others, how come persons like me became one of Jehovah's Witnesses? 
My friend, forget about blind arguments.
Jehovah's Witnesses are reaching out to everyone, just say you don't want to live by the rules of their family yet you want them to accept you into their family circle!  So tell me, how has this love or circle solved problems, can you mention some world problem it solved globally. I mean it should be historic, right? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:07pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one" (i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)" - Deuteronomy 6:4
God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one.
Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions. I'm not choosing sides, but a God wants to split himself into a million pieces it's possible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:04pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: The world also claim to be a global family, that's why they're hypocritically forming alliance against Covid19. But a family is the place where all disputes are settled amicably without the use of weapons or force to resolve issue! Place Islam on that parameter and solve the equation yourself!  But a true Muslim doesn't support killing, I'm sure you'll agree with me that their are Muslim that has never killed before, and those killing are controlled by Satan. What do you have to say about this. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:01pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: That's one of his attributes!
He said about himself "i am slow to anger" Exodus 34:6
So don't expect him to act rashly, because he will first consider so many things before taking action!  Well, now we have established that your God has limit. Hence we can also agree he failed, as inability to succeed is also a limit. And what should anyone do with your God that fails, do you mind listing some of his other limit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:54pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: LOVE doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness! 1Corinthians 13:6 If you're not ready to live by the same rules that binds us together as one family, you can go and worship your own God!  But the rules that binds you people together has failed to reflect in the world we live in. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:52pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
brocab: While in the mean time-your love for us as neighbours doesn't come close to the love you claim to have for others, that you may think they are listening to you.... He's religion promise love, but this love is only found within his family members, hence his religion can't solve the problem of this world, as it's a love that has failed to reach out to others. |