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hoopernikao:
For scenario to help you understand influence and limits of man.

What are the options available for man in terms having a human child

1. born through man/woman (natural or non natural)
2. Adopt
3. Avoid having

The above are influences and limitations placed on you by your environment. This is independent of your thinking.

Now, the choice of a free thinker is limited by these influences available to him.

His final decision also, is a subset of that influence.

This is how things are patterned in life. And until you know the limit of your thoughts and the influence on your mind, you won't embrace reality. Freethinking is just a word on paper, it doesn't exist in reality.

hoopernikao:
You are getting there.

No, all your decisions are not decided but your decisions have limits. In your choices, limits have being placed due to influence.

The reason every actions has its consequences. You determine your actions based on the limited influences available to you, sadly, you can't usually determine the consequences of the actions. Those are limits placed on man.

hoopernikao:

So, the influence is not part of free thinking again abi? We are getting close.

So, firstly, you have agreed that influence comes to us all (even if you say, it's not same as free thinking).

Let me present what you said to you in steps.

1. We have influences coming to us
2. I must do free thinking on this as a free thinker so that I don't just accept things without thinking
3. I will make decisions based on the result of my freethinking but not based on the influence.

Read well the above, that is your thought. Can you see that 3 and 1 can't make sense in same situation?

Do you make independent decisions outside the sets of influence you are exposed to?.

Are decisions not subsets of influences available to you?

Is free thinking done outside the influences presented to you?

Let me put it in simple words for you.

Are there actions or things you know that weren't a product of your surroundings?

See clearly bro, influences are what naturally limit our choices and thought. You can't reason beyond what you are exposed to, hence your free thought are only free to the extent of your unfreed influence.

LordReed:
I doubt that, chance might be another god of greater power because chance doesn't need your pathetic prayers.

hoopernikao:

Maybe the headache you caused reached my side too.

hoopernikao:
This exercise you pose in itself already showed that you are more influenced than you think.

I have asked you why do you wear close, you said to cover your naked-ness. That response alone shows you are influenced by your surroundings.

If reason for clothes is to cover naked-ness, why do you prefer not wearing close in your closet, in your bedroom or when alone. Has the naked-ness disappeared in the room? So do you think the naked-ness is the issue?

I truly hope you understand this that something as simple as clothing is done because of people not because you want it everytime but because the society influenced us to do so.

hoopernikao:
Oh, not from free thinking this time? But from old newspaper.

Okay. Keep it up. I pray the eyes that saw old news paper will see the good newspaper.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ha! Do you not know Mr Chance Works for Him?

Righteousness89:
Guard yourself Folks!

Put on the Whole armor of GOD!

Its risky to be Spirtually empty in these evil days and times

Lots of evils are in the air looking for where to take Permanent residency.

You can resist it by Might or power!

Except the Lord watches over a House! The watchmen Watch but in Vain!

ThinkBrave:
That one should give his or her life to Christ now when there is still time. A time will come when it will be too late. A friend with the world is an enemy of God. It's a choice. There is danger coming and many people are not aware.

ThinkBrave:
If I wanted to insult you, you can't stand it. That was a statement that ended with, "who are the fools". Except you choose to put yourself in the statement, or you have no response at all. The people who killed Jesus were religious people, keepers of the law.

I don't know why people who will call themselves Christians are the first to attack the faith.

LordReed:
Can any choice exist without your god creating it?

ThinkBrave:
Evil was a choice brought by the devil. God choose life and good for man, He gave man the absolute will of choice. The consequences of those choices man must live with it, but he still made a way out through Christ.

ThinkBrave:
A person that can not demonstrate the need or capacity for higher information does not need my response. It will be of no used since you do not know basic science or philosophy. I'm a thinker and will appreciate genuine effort towards knowledge.
I'm not a rigid person who holds on to what do not work.

ThinkBrave:
My friend there is no such word as good or evil in the kingdom of higher animals as science have classified man. It's the survival of the fittest and natural selection. The concept or morality, good and evil only points to an eternal being. Charles Darwin did a good work in that regard. Hitler thought he was doing the world a favour by only allowing healthy people live and procreate. Do go and read on eugenics. Even the nihilist see no meaning to life. Where do you belong?.

ThinkBrave:
I think you believe you are intelligent and I'm impressed by that. Please explain Albert Einstein's relativity theory. I want to use it to explain something to you.

ThinkBrave:
God created man for fellowship. I'm not under fear or obligation. I live in reference to my maker.
Christ alone is the hope of glory.

jamesid29:
Again sir, you are making the same mistake. You are still making a statement.
If you can't proof your statement, that's fine. But it would be great if you tried though.... we learn everyday.

jamesid29:
What you are asking for is a statement not a proof.
Pi = 3.14 and is an irrational number is a statement not a proof. To proof that statement you can look at Lambert's work.

Likewise you can proof the image you posted is a particular color and not just make a statement. Probably you can start with what actually is color in terms of electromagnetic radiation of a wavelength within the visible spectrum and how the particular color you are talking about fall into a particular wavelength. How we our eyes perceive it, how light intensity affects our perception and how our brain responds to stimuli. You can then breakdown the color into its hue, saturation and brightness that distinguishes it from other possible perceived colours and Maybe chip in a couple of things from Newton's work.
Just a couple of ideas on how to go about it.

Care to try again sir?

jamesid29:
Actually you can. So can you proof to me what it means for a color to be green? And how do you know this?

bigname23:
dey decieve urself dere ..because I nor b like una wey dey use nairaland fight oda pepo for their beliefs una go dey form online agberu..nd for real life most of una nor get liver oh

bigname23:
like I said b4 ..na ur own b dat oh..if dat is wat u believe..I nor go fit fight u put

bigname23:
neither will yours change d truth also.

bigname23:
Mr English proffesor..na ur own b dat oh...if that is wat u believe..ok oh..it will still not change d fact Sha..

jaxxy:
Because they got free car gifts or because they deceive the people??

For the fakes yes.

bigname23:
mumu wen u see d thread ...u see anything like fiction for dere ...I nor blame u ..na too much caging dey worry u so, wen ur mates dey go dey exposed u dey house dey watch super heroes movies, ..na d result b dis ...Bros abeg u don old small.. respect ur age

jaxxy:
Lol. They are not the authors of anything bt themselves.

jaxxy:
What point? They where movies like biographies and history not creations of fictional writers like bat man and thanos

jaxxy:
Nope. Just God.