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Anas09:
I was hoping you had grown a brain and learn the maxims of conversation, alas, you are still the way you were.
If I toed your line of insults, by now you'd be prancing about calling me names. But, alas, I didn't. Here you are not having anything to say.

Anna would you have created a better world if you were God?

hahn:
Ask your god what it is doing about people dying before you ask atheists.

As for your fasting and praying

If anything I believe Atheist are doing even more discouraging the building of a global worship center, when same fund can help in tackling the virus.
We try to help them but they keep fighting us.

What is the point of a Gods miracle when many of his followers are already dead.

Jman06:
You are just beating about the bush in a simple matter that is as straightforward as A..B..C. You Christians try to twist things around just to make your God relevant at all cost! Your bible said it that God is the creator of everything on earth and must have been responsible for creation of viruses as well--including corona virus. But one of you zealots I quoted earlier said that corona wasn't created by God but by some Chinese atheists! And these atheists according to your bible were also created by God. If those atheists were created by God, common logic means that God is responsible for corona virus! Why are you trying to absolve him

Malaria is also created by God, and it affects Africa the most, a very religious continent.

MuttleyLaff:
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Your point is?
Stillbirths die too, lol,
you havent thought of them, lol, hmm?

I'm referring to those that die with out hearing the word of God, they will be judge by their works, why then go about preaching the word of God to people?

MuttleyLaff:
Both your premises GRIMMJOE, unfortunately are abysmally smh wrong.

Adam was not originally created a knight with a tarnished armour. Remember the chink in his armour was self inflicted, lol. Secondly, you still dont recollect the racing opportunity you took to be created, do ya, lol?

This is the solution you gave to a flawed world

MuttleyLaff:
The fix, solution and/or remedy, is to repair, to change, and/or best still, get a new Template, and has to be, one without flaw, blemish, mark, damage, fault etctera, that the corrupted and damaged first template had

Turns out you'll be a better God after all.
As for your second point please be vivid.

Anas09:
As intelligent as you are, this all you can say? I expected that you would prove my dumbness. Lolzzzzz.

It was a joke.

MuttleyLaff:
I can only slide you truth(s), lol. I cant make you catch and hold on to it. Oftentimes it’s enough just to plant the seed, walk away, let the seed germinate, lol and then allow the flower grow and blossom on its own.

A lot of people who die without this truth will be going to heaven.

Anas09:
Yet you want the same God stop Coronavirus. Pls examine your head

I believe you're referring to theist.

1stSonOfLucifer:
LoL

Kinda.... But no more arguments jarě... Here is boring now

I don't really see it as boring, just tried of the same old discussion over and over again, it's like Déjà vu. Today is felixmor, tomorrow Kingebuka, next is Muttleylaf

Anas09:
Shd'nt this question be directed to you the science worshipper?

You have a misconception of what Atheist is, it simple means a disbelief in all known Gods, nothing more nothing less.

Anas09:
You may have also forgotten that it was created by scientists in a Laboratory to reduce the African population.
And. Pls Sharon, what is the cure of Ebola?

@ Anas I believe you will make a very good Atheist, a dumb one maybe, but we won't have to engage you anymore.

MuttleyLaff:
Unlearn that thought you are being punished

It is because Adam was a template, used for reproducing of human beings just as Adam, is without having to do a tedious Adam creation all over again. Just save common things together like skin colour, eyes, hair, nails etcetera stored and for future roll out

So, Adam, just as templates do, served as a starting point for the creation of all human beings, of course, that means, including you, me, your dad, your grandpa, your mum, your missus, your kids, your grandkids etcetera

If one thing is serving, as a template for a second and other things, it means that the reproducing of second thing and other things, are based on the first thing.

Adam carried the genetic code, what's generic and all that is necesarry to create human beings, in him, and this means, including you too, lol. Everything is in something, like whats called, a template class, and its this, what's passed down as inheritable constant variables, for when reproducing many times over, as in like, other human beings. Now, if the template develops a flaw, catches a dent, chink, crack, chip, dink, mark, damage, hole, cut etcetera in it, this automatically will be transferred and would show up in the reproduced second thing and/or other things.

Its not being vindictive, nothing malevolent about it, no one is being punished. Nothing about GRIMMJOE getting punished for it, but whatever the luck of the draw, is what is going to be inherited. The fix, solution and/or remedy, is to repair, to change, and/or best still, get a new Template, and has to be, one without flaw, blemish, mark, damage, fault etctera, that the corrupted and damaged first template had

Every creativity has the fundamental right to be expressed, has a fundamental right to freely come into existence, lol.

GRIMMJOE, you had opportunity to choose, lol. Of course you did, but you just dont remember or know when you did, lol, You dont remember when you raced at the opportunity to come into existence, so you too can exercise your fundamental right of expression, express yourself, lol.

You still living that illusion that free will dont exist, lol

1. Adam was the default template meaning, since he chose wrong any other person would have done the same. You proceed to tell us that's because the template "Adam" is flawed.

This simply means God created a flawed template, and that's because God himself is flawed or maybe he doesn't even exist.

2. You also claimed we all chose to be created, no where in the Bible was this ever stated.

FindX:
As the whole Nigeria is on lock down, drop your accout lemme credit it with 5k.


I will be picking 50 users randomly.


Let's stay safe.

Pig! go and suck your mothers phallus, using peoples predicament to entertain yourself.
I spit on your face, I spit on your face the second time for not licking it the first.

Stephenmoka4:
People who are choosing good options don't have two heads, some people want God to interfere with their lives (not uncommon among Christians).
E.g choosing to commit suicide or choose not to, let's say due to depression and frustration. It's not rare that people will choose to ride on with their lives e.g perseverance... etc

is it my fault Adam chose wrong, why do I have to get punished for it? You said people who choose right don't have two heads (are not special) then why will Adam choose for every body.

The truth is you and I were never given an opportunity to choose, free will don't exist.

lamalama:
your left buttocks

Your mothers left testicle.

elated177:
Mtcheeew....

Op have you seen God

The end time isn't here, humanity have lived through worst.

Stephenmoka4:
Omniscience gives to the
deity the power to know everything, but not to
influence anything.
Knowing all the possible moves someone will
make is not omniscience. Knowing exactly what
move someone will make is omniscience. Okay.
Even if he knows everything and knows how the
pieces fit and how you should put them side by
side to have a "good" life he is not forcing you
to do so. You have freewill and you choose for
yourself.
Although He knows the best "path" for our lives, He
allows us to chose otherwise (gives us free will). If
we chose not to follow God's plan for us, we go out
of His "radar"

God knows what we will chose but allow us to chose anyway, this is pure wickedness.

elated177:
Iammichael, say: "So shall it be" to prayer and walk away.

What's the purpose of this thread.

Stephenmoka4:
That is an example of power, in those days and now humans doubt a lot.

I wonder why.

Stephenmoka4:
Having infinite Power and able to see the future and it's end and the end if the end doesn't means free will can't be exercise.
Things happens, some people can guess right, some can have the ability to predict the nearest future but, as long as it's human it's limited; now one can choose between two things or among many e.g an exam in the university, let's say question 1 says 1+1 and you are given four options A: (1) B: (2) C3) D4) in this case not all options put the person in dilemma (options are bad). However it is quite possible that several people will fail and the examiner knew before hand.
Many have use free will to put some aspects of their life (been it spiritual, physical or psychological) in good shape, many have been struggling and some have ruined theirs
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Peace

I'm interested in what you have to say, please Summarize.

MuttleyLaff:
Let it sound just like that to you.

You still dont get it, do ya. Smh

You dont deserve to know what there is to say about freewill. Enjoy, with my blessing, your illusion that there is no freewill

You should try explaining it to me, who knows you might end up winning a lost soul.

MuttleyLaff:
Smh. Read the above and weep, lol

Give freewill, at your stage, a rest, You dont want to go there, at least, not with me sha, lol. If you ever again, mention it, I'll make you an offer, that could turn out fatal, lol. Please dont try me nor tempt fate, lol. A word is enough for the wise.

C'mon now, shey nah una village pipul dey make you always be asking naive, inexperienced and smh invalid questions, hmm?

How can I ever possibly create a better world than what God originally created, erhn? For crying out loud GRIMMJOE, of course, you do know, this is a case of, as you lay your bed, lie in it. Right?

Look at you shamelessly, squealing as if like a pig (no offense). You cant stand your corner by yourself, without squealing out and trying to tag team in LordReed, lol.

komanbitmi in my aos, if not pleased, lol. It was addressed to Born2Freak, who had no qualms to it, except nosey parker you, lol

Miracle is different from magic, a stick turning to a snake, a donkey speaking, sounds like magic to me.
I'm also a little disappointed you will let starving children die if you were God.

But let's hear what you have to say about free will.

LordReed:
Just a variation of the freewill argument so that the god is not responsible for what he did.

I get it now, the Adam and Eve story. But with this I can easily say Adam didn't ask God to create him, get him a wife, put him under a test and lock him in a garden. Its like Adam was bullied by God, poor Adam.

MuttleyLaff:
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Whats wrong with saying tortured soul?

What is wrong in saying tortured soul? Did I touch a nerve. Did I just hit a nerve with that?
ROTFL, LordReed crucifying me for calling a spade a spade. Would you prefer I rather should have used a mollycoddle adjective, describing the state of yall atheists' souls, hmm? I almost typed troubled soul, lol there. Would have gotten me in LordReed's hotter water, lol. When you take off a shoe and throw it into a crowdy marketplace full of people, the person who yelps, lol, ....

You still haven't answered my question, I'll ask again, maybe you missed it.

Would you have created a better world if you were God?
Please note, you don't have to answer.

shadeyinka:
Miracles still exists and is part of Christianity. It isn't the core though.

The problem is when signs and wonders are elevated beyond "having a quality relationship" with God.

Few Christians ask why all the apostles but one died violent deaths. Few ask why none of the apostles are rich. We don't ask why Gods grace was enough for Paul and Timothy had to take a little wine for his stomach ailment.

What I know is that signs and wonders abound in the mission fields if we are ready to go. But you know that this doesn't attract people to our churches. The ones that attracts people are the miracles done on TV. This has been overplayed at the expense of preaching, teaching and service to God.

I'm impressed with this write up, it's really good.

Reality11:
OK let's take what the pastor said to be true.

-Virus from God
-Scientists would find the cure and stop it.

Tell me who is the master?
Me i see a villain and a hero

Are you trying to say the Bible is a comic book.

MuttleyLaff:
Where did you gobble up all that garbage from you've just regurgitated out above there, lol, hmm?. This guy is just like a book, lol. I read him and his kind like a book, lol. Listen friend, just as I've advised your lackey GRIMMJOE about yall misconception about freewill, just jack in it, forget about it. It isnt market, worth pricing, lol. I am a responsible fair person, I dont want to breath down yall necks, dont want to lean on yall or muscle in. Please ignorance about there is no freewill, is a bliss. Enjoy your illusion that there is no freewill, in peace, lol. Thanks for your time, lol

This is not a Christian thing to do, you are to preach the gospel.

MuttleyLaff:
Nah, not a scam. His children, who actually, in fact were adults, lol, let themselves down and God. When I say "let themselves down" I literally, lol, mean so, lol. It was a fall from grace, as it were, lol. You wouldnt know anything or have any knowledge about this, lol.

LordReed can you please comprehend the above comment, it seems like his intentionally blabbering (no offense) to kill off the argument.

MuttleyLaff:
"And you shall take no gift:
for the gift blinds the wise, and perverts the words of the righteous"
- Exodus 23:8

I am sorry and not trying to be rude, but unfortunately I dont accept gift, certainly not a Greek trojan horse gift, lol. Thank you, but no thank you.

I dont know how whatever you mean by "... supernatural and magical aspect of religion"

This is a naive, inexperienced and a smh invalid question.

Please leave this freewill matter alone, because I am just sparing you having blushes. Please just leave it, dont push your luck. Quit while you are ahead friend, lol.

By Supernatural and magic I meant miracles, as for free will we can discuss it later.
But I have one question for you MuttleyLaff , thieves, ritualist, murderers, corruption, poverty, suffering, this is the question.

Would you have created a better world if you were God?

shadeyinka:
You are welcome bro!

Atheists had made assumptions based on the popular messages they've seen on TV that Christianity is about God supplying, protecting and blessing Christians.

On that basis they've passed their judgements. I don't blame them. I blame our televangelists who had portrayed God as such in order to fleece the simple.

Shalom

You are almost right, but the Bible equally promises these things, like miracles, in fact most became Christians (12 disciples) when Jesus performed miracles, the same miracles he can't perform anymore.