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Reality11:
Can you tell me why/how God self exist but the universe can't?

Because you guys are fund of just asserting without proof or evidence

That God is self existent, so he needs no creator.

How about this " the universe is shelf existence, I doesn't need a creator"

What is your evidence for making such claims? And why it can't be said to the universe?

Anas09:
Lol. This is all you can say? Pathetic.

I thought you wld have rolled out what atheists have to offer in a time like this.

What really is the use of atheism, besides empty noise?

Anas09:
Okay, what have you 'atheistically' done for the the sick?

Reality11:
Lol coming from you who said, God is self existent. He needs no creator. So you didn't see the irony?




Because it is self existent, so it needs no creator



Universe is all that is, and has always been.



I borrowed what Christians say



Magically, like the way prayer works



-Faith produce result when you work
-But faith without work doesn't produce result
-But work without faith can produce result.

So what is the importance of faith here since results can be gotten through works? Since it is all we need?


It left you with no answer, Nail to the head right?

Let me repeat, prayers heals only diseases that has drugs. People take drugs then claim it was prayers that healed them

But prayers don't heal sickness that doesn't have drugs. Because there is no drugs for them to take and when they become okay then they attribute it to prayers.

That is why when scientists finally find the cure to Corona, we would start hearing people saying prayers have cure them from corona through prayers.

Reality11:
Wrong assumption

MuttleyLaff:
How do you come to this conclusion?

What are you implying with the notion that the universe is not created.

Reality11, lol, what is universe? Define universe sef, jor.

Please give 2-3 demonstrative and illustrative examples of how the blood of Jesus heals

Explain it to me, run by me exactly how prayers with blood of Jesus can remove people trapped inside a burning house

Faith, without work, is useless

Have you had your fill, lol?

MuttleyLaff:
Good. I just hope it wont turn out to be a waste of time, energy, effort etcetera


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What's your point anyway?
Did Mary eventually marry or not?. Was permission sought beforehand from Mary or not?

Have you heard the Bible itself read call a pregnant woman without husband a prostitute, hmm? Open and shut case.

MuttleyLaff:
Where from the knowledge and source of drugs against Covid-19 include hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin do you think came from, huh?
Why are you still waiting for Blood of Jesus to make the list? What reason for?

MuttleyLaff:
You dont hear nor listen. I've earlier told you, that you dont know what religion really is.

Now go get yourself busy, do a search with my moniker ID, to find results, of how I by the grace of God and power of the Spirit of Truth, successfully demystified 1 Corinthians 14:24-40, lol.

Born2Freak:
Lol......let's see what your religion says about women.

GRIMMJOE:
There's nothing special about Jesus, God can easily created another son, Mary was not the only Virgin.

herlecks:
He became completely human, he shared in all of our weaknesses, so he could die for our sins. Do you see that? He cleansed your sins by His blood/life, He washed you as clean as as if you had never sinned in your life, to save us from the forthcoming wrath of God upon the dwellers of the earth.

Shelumiel:
By merely reading 1Timothy 3:16, the mystery of the Jesus is complete. And if you take time to study thoroughly, you would see from the onset that Isaiah clearly portrayed Jesus being God in the flesh.

Born2Freak:



What is with the epistle? Just for a joke?

MuttleyLaff:
I can see you really are a kofam L-plated learner and everyday is a Bible 101 schooling day for you, person.

There is something called the "boomerang repercussion" effect. Now, listen and learn this that you never wish for someone what you wouldnt wish yourself because of something like this "boomerang repercussion" effect. Have you ever heard of the biblical prophet called Balaam. Go look it up and read the narrative about him.

Back to matter on hand, what you've just jokingly done up there, has a back fire effect. It ordinarily and automatically would return back to sender, which is you but I've staved it off, knowing that you didnt really understand you dont do something like that to believers (i.e. sons/daughters of God) You are forgiven, please go and sin no more. Let that be the first, last and only time you do something daft like that again.

You can see the seriousness of your action. No one is lol.

budaatum:
No one will flog you for admitting you do not understand my comments.

By the way, the points in the Bible too are not vivid. That's why many understand it their own way.

MuttleyLaff:
One word.
Suicide.

I am sorry, I am sorry, I am sorry, lol, but its the honest truth that will be suicidal, but when you think of it, could be a ... nah, smh, I cant say talk like that, especially not to a GRIMMJOE

Righteousness89:
That's Exactly what I say to u sir! If you don't understand it the way it's put then u can't understand it!

It was Given by JESUS
It's not a Parable!

The Characters Mentioned are people who lived on Earth. (FATHER Abramham , Moses).

That simply should tell u that the Spirt has a body in Hell or Heaven!


If you don't believe it, Maybe u use yourself as an Example..

MuttleyLaff:
God is Self Existent. God is neither created nor God create God.

You came into the world alone, you will return back alone. You will face judgment alone and you will give account alone. Get use to this and stop tag-teaming budaatum. Obtain your understanding just as budaatum has advised you, obtain it to the level of your capacity, perspective, level and whatnot, lol. Leave out budaatum, lol

budaatum:
Unless it is your claim that God wrote it I'd say whoever did write it might have been mistaken or they are correct and meant something different to what you understand.

What does the word "light", as used in the text you quote, mean to you?

budaatum:
That's not what I understand he said at all! But even if he did say that, "How is it a flaw for me to understand what I read how I understand it?"

Righteousness89:
If you read through the Thread and you still don't understand, then my Brother you can't understand!

If you Miss Heaven... You will definitely Understand!

GOD Give you Understanding!

MuttleyLaff:
You still havent cop on, erhn?
God is Light, my friend. Light emanates, emanated from Him, His being. Facepalm.

budaatum:
I see you like assuming. Facts and evidence seem irrelevant to you.

How is it a flaw for me to understand what I read how I understand it? Is that not what you done above in assuming who my "fellow brethren" is?

I don't agree that what can be considered 'human nature', is a flaw, unless you wish to accept there is a flawless human being somewhere.

MuttleyLaff:
You're getting wool pulled over your eyes, because you are taken for a gullible. It is not "God wrote", that's why budaatum, put it in inverted commas, the original word used is fashioned, to form, (i.e. Hebrew word is yatsar) just like as a potter who forms out of clay a vessel, a human being body. Praise God. Alleluia. So much for Bible 101 free lessons here for GRIMMJOE, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
budaatum is right, she's absolutely right, didnt you know before ni, huh? Did you think that God came down and physically with His own Hands write up the Bible ni? C'mon now, dont be like that, lol. Oh you wan fall my hand, lol

Its because you're a learner. L-Plate's hanging round your neck, lol. You've got loads to learn, lol

MuttleyLaff:
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Yiu think you are half as clever, lol. OK what does Agricultural Science, Wrists watch and Wall clock rely on to know the seasons, to keep,, know and track time?

budaatum:
It does not say "God wrote", but with freewill, one may decide to understand it that way.

MuttleyLaff:
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budaatum:
I did jump indeed. Not only did humans write the book you mention, but as you can see for yourself, we also decide what it means to us and how we understand it.

badaatum: So why you blaming God for Muttley when its your likely view that Muttley is exercising his freewill despite what Muttley claims?

MuttleyLaff:
Do you know why we have seasons. How we are able to know when to plant, sow and harvest.

MuttleyLaff: How we are able to keep, track time and know time, huh?. Smh

budaatum:
According to what you read in a book, right?

budaatum:
So, in your own opinion, Christians can't use free will to decide to disobey God? Christians can't steal, can't kill, and can't hate their enemies, because freewill does not exist in Christianity, according to you?

I suggest you become an atheist. Then you'd at least have to rely on the evidence before you instead of just believing what you understand you read in a book.