GRIMMJOE:
From the second point, what calamity? Oh you mean the world God created, why did He created a calamity and put His precious children inside? Sounds like scam.

malvisguy212:
were did this virus began? China! What is China stand on religion? China is an atheistic nation, a nation without God. You atheists will find a way to blame God because of the hatred you have for God.. Foolish atheist

MuttleyLaff:




If I were to be an atheist like you, I would never give a hoot about God, mention of God or anything about God. I would be indifferent, and not bother wasting my time and energy discussing, arguing or debating anything having God as a central focus, lol, but you guys are tortured souls, writhing like heap of maggots, as if frustrated in some sort of anguish and pain, lol

MuttleyLaff:
"And you shall take no gift:
for the gift blinds the wise, and perverts the words of the righteous"
- Exodus 23:8

I am sorry and not trying to be rude, but unfortunately I dont accept gift, certainly not a Greek trojan horse gift, lol. Thank you, but no thank you.

I dont know how whatever you mean by "... supernatural and magical aspect of religion"

This is a naive, inexperienced and a smh invalid question.

Please leave this freewill matter alone, because I am just sparing you having blushes. Please just leave it, dont push your luck. Quit while you are ahead friend, lol.

GRIMMJOE:
You are almost right, but the Bible equally promises these things, like miracles, in fact most became Christians (12 disciples) when Jesus performed miracles, the same miracles he can't perform anymore.

Born2Freak:



My greetings to your imaginary friends

malvisguy212:
my friends saw your reply, all of them are laughing. OK enjoy your weekend my lady.

malvisguy212:
so what has Christianity got to do with the coronavirus that the op will attack,? China is almost 80% atheists.

Born2Freak:
Lol. It is a hypothetical argument.
If this, then that.......

An omniscient or omnipotent God and freewill cant exist together

If God knows the future, then it means that the future is written in stone. If the future is written in stone, then we humans are on a predestined path.

lepasharon:

MuttleyLaff:
Nah, not a scam. His children, who actually, in fact were adults, lol, let themselves down and God. When I say "let themselves down" I literally, lol, mean so, lol. It was a fall from grace, as it were, lol. You wouldnt know anything or have any knowledge about this, lol.

lepasharon:


Why won't they laugh? They're just as brain dead as you, like the majority of Nigerians

IMAGINE FOOLS LAUGHING AND BASKING IN THEIR OWN FOOLISHNESS.

1stSonOfLucifer:

You on ya wall??.

kingxsamz:


This rubbish you typed has not countered any of the Op's points.
What has China being a non-religious nation got to do with what the Op said?
Get your head out of your ass

Besides, your pastor Adeboye said the virus was from God, so go and wail at his feet.

MuttleyLaff:
Where did you gobble up all that garbage from you've just regurgitated out above there, lol, hmm?. This guy is just like a book, lol. I read him and his kind like a book, lol. Listen friend, just as I've advised your lackey GRIMMJOE about yall misconception about freewill, just jack in it, forget about it. It isnt market, worth pricing, lol. I am a responsible fair person, I dont want to breath down yall necks, dont want to lean on yall or muscle in. Please ignorance about there is no freewill, is a bliss. Enjoy your illusion that there is no freewill, in peace, lol. Thanks for your time, lol

Reality11:


OK let's take what the pastor said to be true.

-Virus from God
-Scientists would find the cure and stop it.

Tell me who is the master?
Me i see a villain and a hero

LordReed:
LMFAO! Look at who likes talking about Freudian slips. You Christians can display some of the worst wishes for your fellow human. Imagine believing that someone is a tortured soul writhing like a heap of maggots just because they don't believe in your god. It says more about you than about the unbeliever. You have the most wicked thoughts is what it says, yet you believe in a bible you say dictates to you to keep your thoughts pure. Smell that hypocrisy?

shadeyinka:

Miracles still exists and is part of Christianity. It isn't the core though.

The problem is when signs and wonders are elevated beyond "having a quality relationship" with God.

Few Christians ask why all the apostles but one died violent deaths. Few ask why none of the apostles are rich. We don't ask why Gods grace was enough for Paul and Timothy had to take a little wine for his stomach ailment.

What I know is that signs and wonders abound in the mission fields if we are ready to go. But you know that this doesn't attract people to our churches. The ones that attracts people are the miracles done on TV. This has been overplayed at the expense of preaching, teaching and service to God.

MuttleyLaff:
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Whats wrong with saying tortured soul?

What is wrong in saying tortured soul? Did I touch a nerve. Did I just hit a nerve with that?
ROTFL, LordReed crucifying me for calling a spade a spade. Would you prefer I rather should have used a mollycoddle adjective, describing the state of yall atheists' souls, hmm? I almost typed troubled soul, lol there. Would have gotten me in LordReed's hotter water, lol. When you take off a shoe and throw it into a crowdy marketplace full of people, the person who yelps, lol, ....

GRIMMJOE:

LordReed can you please comprehend the above comment, it seems like his intentionally blabbering (no offense) to kill off the argument.

MuttleyLaff:
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Whats wrong with saying tortured soul?

What is wrong in saying tortured soul? Did I touch a nerve. Did I just hit a nerve with that?
ROTFL, LordReed crucifying me for calling a spade a spade. Would you prefer I rather should have used a mollycoddle adjective, describing the state of yall atheists' souls, hmm? I almost typed troubled soul, lol there. Would have gotten me in LordReed's hotter water, lol. When you take off a shoe and throw it into a crowdy marketplace full of people, the person who yelps, lol, ....

LordReed:


Just a variation of the freewill argument so that the god is not responsible for what he did.

MuttleyLaff:
What we perceive as miracles on earth, are actually rules, principles and/or laws of heaven. It's when a miracle is constantly repeated or perfected, that it becomes a process of nature, a normal state of affairs on earth. Magic, on the other hand, historically often had pejorative connotations, specifically negative connotations to apply to rites that were regarded as fraudulent, unconventional, and dangerous. Magic, is the art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices

Let's take a look at a perceived miracle, the Thames Tunnel, is the world's first man-made underground tunnel under a river built. It was used by pedestrians, was a shopping arcade and became a tourist attraction. Experts back then, thought that an underground tunnel underneath a navigable river is impracticable, and so, it was classed a miracle then and after, this tunnel was successfully constructed by Sir Marc Isambard Brunel. Whats the point made here? The point is that, tunnels under rivers, are now ten a penny, and so thereby their constructions arent seen to be miracles anymore. It has become a norm.

It has to be within the rules though before God can do beyond what our mind can conceive, besides we all know and agree that "let Thy will be done" takes precedence here nau.

GRIMMJOE:
By Supernatural and magic I meant miracles,

GRIMMJOE:
as for free will we can discuss it later.

GRIMMJOE:
But I have one question for you MuttleyLaff, thieves, ritualist, murderers, corruption, poverty, suffering, this is the question.

Would you have created a better world if you were God?

GRIMMJOE:
LordReed can you please comprehend the above comment, it seems like his intentionally blabbering (no offense) to kill off the argument.

GRIMMJOE:
This is not a Christian thing to do, you are to preach the gospel.

GRIMMJOE:
You still haven't answered my question, I'll ask again, maybe you missed it.

Would you have created a better world if you were God?
Please note, you don't have to answer.

GRIMMJOE:

LordReed can you please comprehend the above comment, it seems like his intentionally blabbering (no offense) to kill off the argument.

Dantedasz:
That is his stock in trade.

GRIMMJOE:
I get it now, the Adam and Eve story. But with this I can easily say Adam didn't ask God to create him, get him a wife, put him under a test and lock him in a garden. Its like Adam was bullied by God, poor Adam.

MuttleyLaff:
Where did you gobble up all that garbage from you've just regurgitated out above there, lol, hmm?. This guy is just like a book, lol. I read him and his kind like a book, lol. Listen friend, just as I've advised your lackey GRIMMJOE about yall misconception about freewill, just jack in it, forget about it. It isnt market, worth pricing, lol. I am a responsible fair person, I dont want to breath down yall necks, dont want to lean on yall or muscle in. Please ignorance about there is no freewill, is a bliss. Enjoy your illusion that there is no freewill, in peace, lol. Thanks for your time, lol

MuttleyLaff:


Smh. Read the above and weep, lol

Give freewill, at your stage, a rest, You dont want to go there, at least, not with me sha, lol. If you ever again, mention it, I'll make you an offer, that could turn out fatal, lol. Please dont try me nor tempt fate, lol. A word is enough for the wise.

C'mon now, shey nah una village pipul dey make you always be asking naive, inexperienced and smh invalid questions, hmm?

How can I ever possibly create a better world than what God originally created, erhn? For crying out loud GRIMMJOE, of course, you do know, this is a case of, as you lay your bed, lie in it. Right?

Look at you shamelessly, squealing as if like a pig (no offense). You cant stand your corner by yourself, without squealing out and trying to tag team in LordReed, lol.

komanbitmi in my aos, if not pleased, lol. It was addressed to Born2Freak, who had no qualms to it, except nosey parker you, lol

LordReed:
You always overrate your capabilities.

LordReed:
Your ability to hit a nerve will only be predicated on you speaking truth. You speak fables, so you only get a laugh. When you speak imagery predicated on your fables, you reveal how twisted your thoughts are

LordReed:
It is your twisted thoughts I condemn revealing how hypocritical you are. The glee with which you Christians believe your god will torture people is puerile to say the least.