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pazienza,

WE CANNOT LEAVE PEOPLE THAT COMFORTABLY CUT OIL PRODUCING PART OF IGBO LAND INTO THEIR STATE SIMPLY BECOS THEY CAN.

DID THEY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OPINIONS OF THE IGBOS?

TODAY THEIR SON HAVE KILLED OUR AIRPORT IN FAVOUR OF PORT HARCOURT.

WE MUST NEVER LEAVE THEM. THEY ARE A POLITICS THAT WE MUST PLAY.

onuebonyi:
This is the kind of stuff some states in the SE should be discussing as election approaches. No one is interested.

Take ur dusty ass off this thread with that bootleg.

pazienza, they are a politics that we must play whether we like it or not.

we need to start toying with them.

pazienza:
If those Igbophobic Igboids want to join Ijaws in oil Rivers, then we should respect their choice and wish them well. As strong as Germany is, there are still native German speakers who are Italians by nationality today.
Let's not even talk about Austrians. You don't see an average German worrying about those groups, because they have made the best of what they have, they have transformed Germany into the biggest economy in Europe.
If we do same for Igboland, we wouldn't have to worry what those groups are doing for themselves.

See brother, you can't save everyone. We have all we need in SE to form a prosperous nation.
It's operation Noah's ark. Nobody/group would be begged to join.

This is true.

However, we must never shy away from the politics that we are called to play.

We must never leave them becos they have never left us.

They hate us with passion and we owe them a debt of passion.

nnamdijonathan:
The best way to understand Pazienza is to visit Rivers state and bring up this matter, then you know that calling those people Igbos is 100% a waste of time. The kind of reply I got in Ukwuani when I tried to generalize everyone as Igbo was so shocking, with what I got there, I can only but just imagine the kind of reply I will get from Ikwerre people. You may consider them as Igbos but, they don't consider themselves as one accept they are to benefit politically from it

There comes a point in time, when they will not have that luxury, becos with the pace of Nigeria politics, all that will soon be swept away.

It can easily be done with state creation and boundary adjustment.

Bakassi people claimed to be Nigerians but the land they occupied belonged to Cameroon and were asked to vacate the land.

BankeSmalls:
The middle finger is to you who discovered it.

lollz! Wen i saw it, it looked funny inbetween Anioma, Imo and Anambra.


Asari Dokubo might have been the brains behind that state becos, the person certainly had a sense of humor.

pazienza:
Uche Secondus is an Andoni man.
Google about Andoni people.
And I learnt Uche means different thing in Andoni language.
Andoni people today are proud members of Ijaw National bodies and associations in Nigeria, including IYC.

That is to be expected in view of their geographical location on the shores of the Atlantic Ocean with the Ijaws.

The Ijaws are gunning for igboid speakers and hoping to extend up north into the east.

This Oil River map looks like a middle finger to the Igbos up North.(up ur ass kinda thing)

Are we just going to allow them walk away with igboid speaking groups?

Or are u in doubt of the ethnicity of Oil Rivers State? If so, let me tell u now that it is Ijaw State.

BankeSmalls:
Okay, meaning that Soludo cannot be VP because Peter Obi locked him in a cage and threw away the keys? Eiyaaa.

Peter Obi is wicket....

If there is an Igbo Politician that operates like an assassin, then it is Peter Obi.

Peter Obi has my respect as a model Igbo politician in terms of being tactful.

I dont know any other like Peter Obi in the entire SE.

Quiet smooth operator, with a lethal finishing .

We Igbo men will have our day but for now, NOI is the best candidate.

Soludo that would have been appropriate was caged by the same Peter Obi now nursing Presidential ambition.

Then again, Peter Obi might still be Atiku Vice President since NOI might decline the offer.

In the entire East, Peter Obi is the most shrewd politician of them all.

He caged Soludo that would have been Atiku Vice and relegated him.

Peter Obi has links to America Government.

He undoubtedly masterminded Atiku emergence as PDP candidate.

Chiwude:
It's her time and it's also the time of Ndigbo. We must match words with action. Voters apathy will die in the SE as far as this combo is concerned. All our people need to do is campaign vigorously everywhere we find ourselves. Ndigbo have done well first, by the help of our PDP delegates to ensuring Atiku won the primaries. We must do more by sensitising our people to come out to vote come 2019. Our enemies are taking our apathetic stance for granted by trying to deny us our rights.
The enemies of Ndigbo must be put to shame. They've flooded all social media trying to sell a SW VP, even the staunch BMS in the midst are not left out. But all their plans will fail.
The Igbo nation must put them to shame.

Peter Obi should just bless that combination and keep it drama free.

There are other positions.

Let the Igbo women have a go at Nigeria politics, they might be more successful at it.

Further, the type of hostile ethnocentric campaign yoruba media are waiting to unleash will be quelled by the softer sex and NOI International figure.

The combination will fly home and abroad.

Chiwude:
Team Atiku/Okonjo-Iweala.
Okonjo-Iweala is the pride of Ndigbo. I remember Tedx Houston and saw her told the world how proud she was to be an Igbo.

It is her time.

If u dont know wat that map means.

Pls, let me explain.

It means Ikwere are Igbo and SE just like Abia.

As Oil River State takes up their place in the SS heading to Akwa Ibom.

pazienza:
This is the hubris and irrationality that will destroy Ndiigbo .
What made you think you have the right to decide for yourself, and others don't have the right to decide for themselves? Where exactly is this mentality coming from.

What Ikwerre claims and want is what they will get. Stop this your funny mindset.

We are in a democratics dispensation.

GEJ came very close to doing exactly wat I just said here, so it is not a threat.

Look very close at the National confab map.

They took much of the igboid groups into oil River State, leaving the Ikwere and Ogoni out.

That is Ijaw moving to consolidate on their gain with igboid groups such as the Ekpeye and co.

They came right up to the boundaries between Anioma, Anambra and Imo.

losers!


leave already, u have over stayed your usefulness.

Bede2u:
lol...i tell u

If Ogoni agree to stay with them as opposed to join Kalabari State, then they will have to negotiate with Opobo and Bonny to get sea access.

This can only happen under an agreed power sharing arrangement.

As for Ikwere alone, they are hopelessly landlocked.

pazienza:
Ikwerre don't want to be cut out of Rivers, they certainly don't want to be added to a people they view as oppressors. Don't you get the memo already?

Wat Ikwere want and wat they will get are two different things.

People do not always get wat they want.

If Kalabari want their own state should they continue to be marginalised in Rivers becos of wat the Ikwere want?

Wat the Ikwere claim and want can be rejected as Irrational.

There are claims termed fraudulent.


It is fraudulent to speak a language, follow its culture and cuisine but deny affiliation.


It can simply not be accepted as irrational.

pazienza:
You don't get it. It's not about what you and I or Yorubas think.
It's about what Ilorin people themselves think.

This is the same issue have with Ndiigbo that go on assuming Ikwerres and other Igbophobic Igboid groups out there are Igbos, simply because they speak Igbo, wear Igbo clothes and eat Igbo food.

If someone say you are not his brother, then you are better off without the person. A true brother will not deny you.

That is true.

However, association by implication goes both ways.

If they deny Yoruba becos of interaction with Fulani.

We terminate the interaction by redrwaing their boundry to cut them into SW.

Saraki comfortably gave his daughter to a Yoruba from SW in marriage.

Cut Ikwere out of Rivers and put their land locked land with minimal oil into the SE zone.


Create a coastal state for the Kalabari and let us see wat Ikwere will call themselves next.

pazienza:
The Sarakis and Ilorin people don't consider themselves Yorubas. Even though they speak and bear Yoruba names.
But the rest of Yoruba speaking Kwara are comfortable with the Yoruba tag. For example,, Oyedepo is a proud Yoruba man from Kwara State.

We cannot pick and choose all the time.

It is simple, u answer yoruba name, eat their food, marry them and speak their language, you are Yoruba.

Simple boundry adjustment and regionalism would correct that anomaly.

i.e. Cut Yoruba kwara/ Kogi and add them into the SW region.

And those raving mad Ohanaeze youth are not making things any easier.

Ranting all over social media like amateurs.

Those threat we will not vote Atiku, put igbo in bad light.

At that level, diplomacy and diplomatic mission would suffice not childish tantrum.

John Ogbu can write the thoughtless article where he opined that Atiku can forget picking a VP from SE and pick them from SW. I swear, some of our people just haven't got any clue, they are yet to understand the dynamics of Nigerian politics.

Y dont we ever get Yoruba people write such nonsense or Hausafulani write such?

Y must Igbo thing always be negatively different?

pazienza:
Exactly the point I'm making.
It's simply out of greed that Yorubas are still vying and scheming to produce both VP of PDP and APC VP in preparation for another assault at the presidency slot in 2023, when they know fully well that Ndiigbo are yet to have neither the VP nor presidency since 1999. Imagine if the tables were turned and it were Ndiigbo doing same thing they are currently doing, how the whole Nigeria would accuse Ndiigbo of greed, yet for Yorubas, it's counted unto them as Political "sophistication".

SS has also produced a VP and presidency recently. If ever there is fairness, equity and justice in Nigeria, then nobody would even be discussing about why this VP slot should be exclusively zoned to SE, but Nigeria is a jungle, which is why I'm perplexed that someone like John Ogbu can write the thoughtless article where he opined that Atiku can forget picking a VP from SE and pick them from SW. I swear, some of our people just haven't got any clue, they are yet to understand the dynamics of Nigerian politics.

In Nigeria, the only people that want to die over VP in both PDP and APC are Yoruba.


U wonder why Ndiigbo want Biafra.


Let Yoruba and Hausa Fulani continue as Nigeria together.


U will here Yoruba say if Igbo go, we are going, as if we came to Nigeria together.

ckenneths:
The only thing I asked is your Senate president choice?

Senate President should go to Saraki if Igbo get VP.

pazienza:
Exactly the point I'm making.
It's simply out of greed that Yorubas are still vying and scheming to produce both VP of PDP and APC VP in preparation for another assault at the presidency slot in 2023, when they know fully well that Ndiigbo are yet to have neither the VP nor presidency since 1999. Imagine if the tables were turned and it were Ndiigbo doing same thing they are currently doing, how the whole Nigeria would accuse Ndiigbo of greed, yet for Yorubas, it's counted unto them as Political "sophistication".

SS has also produce a VP and presidency recently. If ever there is fairness, equity and justice in Nigeria, then nobody would even be discussing about why this VP slot should be exclusively zoned to SE, but Nigeria is a jungle, which is why I'm perplexed that someone like John Ogbu can write the thoughtless article where he opined that Atiku can forget picking a VP from SE and pick them from SW. I swear, some of our people just havent got any clue.

It is not just greed my brother, it is psychotic obsession.

Y use the term pyschotic obsession, well, Yoruba had to produce Finanace Minister becos Okonjo Ikweala who is Igbo and a woman was fianace minister, then Buhari replaced kemi with hausafulani woman.

U can see that in Nigeria anything that goes to the East is observed with satellite telescope/ ill feelings.

Abagworo:
Senate President is Fulani.

Bukola is not a Fulani name, dont ever get yourself confused.

Bukola is a yoruba name.

The larger half of Kwara are Yorubas.

Just as the larger half of Rivers are Igbos.

GuyWise:
Pdp will be making the worst mistake if they fail to produce a VP from SE

If Atiku is the person picking the VP, forget it, that man has a good heart and will certainly go SE purely becos we are the most marginalized in present times.

If it is PDP selecting the VP, then it will go SW.

That will be a big mistake becos it will cost Atiku all 11 SS/SE states and wont guarantee him the 6 SW state.

We call that political suicide.

Yoruba are behaving like they have not recently completed a full 8 years tenure under OBJ as president, something that no other group or geopolitical zone have managed.

In addition to the 8 years Presidency and holding virtually every office in the country, Yoruba are presently VP, Senate President, Deputy Speaker, Chief of Defence Staff, yet u see the greed and opposition to Igbo gaining representation at national level.


I hope Ndiigbo are not sleeping. If u people are please wake up.


This is y wen i criticize Yorubas, it is for very valid reason.

ckenneths:
Senate president?

Wat do u mean?

I hope Ndiigbo are not sleeping?

U see how Yoruba are going out of their way to make sure that even VP does not get to Igbos?

Even Fayosi threaten to resign PDP.

I hope those of us that are sleeping on the level of opposition we face from Yoruba are waking up.

I have always said Yoruba constitute the biggest problem Igbo face in Nigeria and never the North or HausaFulani.

I HAVE TOLD MY IGBO BROTHERS THAT A TIME COMES WHEN WE ALLOW THE WOMEN TO TAKE UP POSITION.

THE TIME IS NOW.

IT WILL CERTAINLY COME BACK TO US, BUT FOR NOW, LET US BE THE ENVY ONES AGAIN THROUGH OUR WOMEN.


U SEE HOW JEALOUS YORUBA WERE OF NGOZI OKONJO IWEALA AS FIANANCE MINISTER THAT THEY BROUGHT THAT SUB-STANDARD KEMI WHO LATER DISGRACE THEM.

SWIFTLY FOLLOWED BY BUHARI REPLACING HER WITH HAUSAFULANI WOMAN.


IGBO ARE NATURAL LEADERS, WE LEAD OTHERS FOLLOW AND THAT IS WHY THE ENVY AND HATRED FOR US IS TOO MUCH.