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Elkay3:
Can you help me define Special?

spe·cial/ˈspeSHəl/
adjective
better, greater, or otherwise different from what is usual.
noun
a thing, such as an event, product, or broadcast, that is designed or organized for a particular occasion or purpose.

Image123:
Good. i'm not under any obligations to tell you but since you begged, ETERNITY and PURPOSE. i have eternity in view, i have a purpose for all i do, and i have fulfillment.

Can you tell us about this purpose? Everything has purpose. Even the rocks and chickens serve a purpose. So what makes you more special than a chicken? Eternity, we are all eternal and would always be eternal, even a chicken is eternal and has always been. We die and our matter and energy goes back into circulation. So what makes you more special because those things you listed are what every living and non living things have. Eternity and purpose.

Wilgrea7:
when i said special i wasn't talking about them being superior to us.. i was talking about every living creature being special in their own way to a certain extent.. irrespective of whether they are smarter than us or not



in my opinion, humans or life in general isn't not special because we're tiny or because we die... i think what makes something special is that its there... it may not last.. but the fact that it may cease makes it worth it.. we won't be here forever.. true.. but we have now.. we could either appreciate and enjoy it or loathe our existence... in my opinion... that's what makes us “special"

Then we are not more special than a dog or cat. We are all the same so why do we always think we are better than other animals? I don't see anything that makes us special from them.

Image123:
These billions are not 'endangered species', the point was clear. What is useless to you can be useful to another. It is not what happens to you but your reaction to what happens to you, as they say. What i trash as useless, some people are picking and making a livelihood out of it. That is the fact of life that we deal with. i understand when you see your life as purposeless, i tell people that all the time. LIFE WITHOUT GOD IS MEANINGLESS. i feel your pain.

I agree, my life is meaningless. Pls I pray you, tell me the meaning your life has

onyenze123:
Yes.

Imagine that weapon of mass destruction in the hands of monkeys today, what do you think will happen?

Human is the only creature on earth that can cooperate on a global level to achieve their goals. In the story of evolution, they is a huge gap between humans and apes. That huge gap has sth to do with divinity

What is the purpose of man with all the technology? You seem not to see the big picture. Ok we are intelligent, what is the purpose of the intelligence? It helps us "improve" our life, we can create things to make life easier for ourselves. Goog, after that, what next? What if we could even make life so good, we live longer, what is the purpose our living longer serve? What if we have weapons, what purpose is it going to serve. If our intelligence keeps the world going, what purpose does that serve? If man can live forever, what purpose does that serve? We live for basics at the end. It is all about pleasure and that is no purpose

Elkay3:
The fish has an eye that rotates at 360¤. Sharks detects blood and heart movement at distance away. The chameleon has a skin that can adapt to its environment. Speed of a cheetah, wow. Or strength of a lion. Absolute. Meerkat has a natural built-in sunshade to its head structure. Jellyfish is immortal, literary. Have you seen a gliding snake? Oh so beautiful, even when I can't get to like snakes. Camels and Dung beetles are good at astrology, following moons , stars to guide them. I can go on and on and on... all so beautiful and special. I like watching those lovely channels on television of either LCD or OLED, using electricity generated by huge machines mostly placed by dams transmitted via a specially designed equipment called satellite orbiting in the nearest galaxy (perhaps even bumping into some unknown or unidentified species). Or. On a computer or laptop, programmed by man to run on sequences of 0s and 1s, or on modern studied algorithms, all by man and his inspiration. We, as man, using equipment and a sense of timing and intellect, can sit down and observe them, their habits, habitats and behaviours. Even domesticated some to do our bidding. Intellects does that.

And then, there's Syria. Hiroshima. Holocaust. Gaza. 9/11. Rape. Murder. Stealing. Cheating. Robbing. Deforestation. Glaziers melting. Drought. Gay and lesbianism which even other animals don't do that. This list would even require much space to complete. I'm not denying that.

But yet, man has a much higher sense of what's wrong and what's right. Man is born with a natural instincts to distinguish right from wrong, even when man continuously does the wrong. Other species acts on impulse, not on reason. Not on intellects. Not on inspiration. Not on motivation. None of those.

And what's the special pupose man serves? What exactly are we doing or aiming our existence at?

Image123:
Does 'endangered species' have no meaning or has it taken up new meaning? How can a specie that keeps increasing in billions, and is projected by every sane mind to increase significantly in the next couple of decades be said to be endangered species?

And I guess this billions and billions of people all have a special purpose right? Lol. Those lies that makes us all feel good. Like the delusional human rights and all men are equal we chant

Image123:
Or so there could be an alien race out there, but we should rule out the possibility of God out there. You're indeed deceiving yourself and having itching ears.

What god? The one in your mind?

Image123:
Feel good yeah right. That's exactly what you are proving in this thread, that there's no meaning or significance to your life.

*smiles* and what meaning does your life have can you tell me?
You want me to deceive myself? I know my life has no consequence. I am yet to meet anyone whose life has any consequence. So you may be the first educate me on your influence on the cosmos that means YOU MUST EXIST. If you don't exist what is the loss to the cosmos

bqlekan:
Special? I think not

Limited perception The human mind is so limited in it's understanding of the universe. There appears to be a barrier to what we can understand. Just as ant wouldn't know about the existence of Jupiter and will never be, the human mind will never go beyond certain limits in it's existence.

Death You think we are more special than host of unicellular/multicellular organisms? Then why do we have to die like them? We are yet to solve the puzzle of death. An unknown disease can wipe out our entire populace, a slight modification to the air we breathe in and we are diseased/deceased.Yet, there are even hosts of organisms out there who arguably don't die. That alone knocks us off from being special.

The cosmos To think that we can't even travel out of our own galaxy yet is a reason not to feel too special. Even if we can, we won't even reach 5% of the observable universe in our lifetime.
Voyager 1 took a picture of earth from space decades ago, (image below) the earth appeared like a speck of dust hanging in a vacuum. Earth doesn't appear so special from there, why do we think we are.

Humans are not special, earth is, earth may continue to sustain life after we are long gone. As a theist, I believe God intentionally put a barrier around us. We won't see beyond our perception.

Thank you very much my good sir. We are just one of the animals on earth, we are in our own world and feel special, just the way a frog feels special in it's little pond.

ifenes:
It's all a case of belief. Yes a man Is physically stronger than a woman but we all know this same man can easily go weak at the sight of the female curves or even be easily manipulated by her. The black race is not weak, we won't be if we lived in our world. We have our gift and it is clearly not technology. We are deeply spiritual and stronger than the rest...... If we put that to use,we have the ability to diffuse all technological illusions presented to us by the white race. However I am not saying the White race is useless either. We are all special and have special roles to play.

Aliens are not more special than we are. Most of them have lost their abilities to reproduce like we do,due to dependence technology. How do we know they don't learn from us?

I still don't see what makes us special. If you claim aliens learn from us, don't you know we humans also learn from other animals?

Sarassin:
You ask what is special about human life?

We are emanations of the Divine, we live only to discover beauty and even the spirits of the air envy man his pain.

There is a space between man's imagination and man's accomplishment that may only be crossed by his desire. The significance of man is not in what he attains, but rather in what he longs to attain.

How can you lose faith in the purpose of life? The dreams of those who sleep on a feathered bed are no more beautiful than the dreams of those who sleep upon the bare earth? The desire for pleasures is a part of our pain.

Trees are poems that the earth writes upon the sky. We cut them down and turn them into paper so that we may record our emptiness.

Frogs may bellow louder than bulls, but they cannot drag the plough in the field nor turn the wheel of the winepress.

Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you.

As I said before, we have over 7billion people on earth right now, what is the special thing we are doing that has a high pupose to the cosmos. Nothing.

johnydon22:
I will reply this from a scientific point of view, from a vintage point past the shores and limitations of this earth. Humans are young and venerable but yet are brave and curious.

The Cosmos may be densely populated with intelligent beings. But the evolutionary lesson is clear: There will be no humans elsewhere. Only here. Only on this small planet. We are a rare as well as an endangered species. Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In all million billion galaxies scattered in the vastness of forever, you will not find another.

Being unique makes us special. We have over 7 billion people on this planet now and many more have died. What is so special about 7billion people, what purpose are they serving? If allowed we would keep increasing, why should we increase, to serve what purpose. I disagree. We aint special. We are just another specie of animals. You know what 7billion people want? Check and see for yourself how special our needs are.

ifenes:
Every life form is special and serves a purpose. If they weren't they won't exist in the first place. Human life is just as advanced as the rest of the animals. The human form is only our interpretation of Energy fields and it takes special beings to live on this planet. It takes a lot to go through the limitations and negative beliefs and still come out on top. Being human is one of the wonders of the Universe( You-niverse)

And what celebrats us as special? Us? Just the way some races are more superior to other races? Or do we want to pretend that the black race is the most useless of all races? Do we want to play political-corretedness now? There could be an alien race out there so so advanced that we are just like ants to them, we don't even worth their attention. I am sure a lion would feel very special when it captures a human and feeds on his flesh. It is all an illusion. We are all weak and no different from a rat that holds dear to life. What do we live for? Sex, food? What? That tells you how special we are.

Wilgrea7:
well.... i think all life is special to a certain degree.... that doesn't mean you won't swat that mosquito or spray that Mortein .... although... many creatures are special in their own way... on earth. i think man tops the list.. if aliens probably exist, they'd be special too... we're all special to an extent

Aliens aint special. It is from our vain minds we attribute superiority to anything. What would be special about aliens?
When you realize the vastness of the universe, of the cosmos, you realize how long it has been in existence and how long it would be in existence (for eternity), you realize we are just a speck of the creations of the cosmos that would pass away. We would be long gone as a species and the cosmos would reuse us as resources that has nothing to do with our intelligence. That is how not special we are. We are struggling to survive. We are helplessly grasping for life. We are pretentious but our real aim is survival. We aint special. We may dress up in suit and spray cologne on our bodies to smell nice, it is all part of the survival game. When cancer or other terminal diseases hit us, we realize how not special we are

Elkay3:
Look at your phone screen. That's one place to start...

Look at syria, that's one place to start for you too.
I don't see frogs, fish, birds, monkeys, tigers doing so much damage to life. Look at the amazon and behold the wonder of man. How many acres of virgin forest do we log everyday? Go figure.

You think we are special because we have technology? I can imagine if something makes the sun's gravitational pull all of a sudden stronger and the earth is pulled towards the sun at a faster rate, how special would we be?

How special are we when floods, volcanic eruptions and earth quakes devastate us? Oh, we are weaklings. We are just like everyother living thing. We die and we die very easily. Does not seem so special to me.

onyenze123:
Yes, every animal is special in its own way but none can rival the capabilities of man.

Special Things we created: Too numerous to mention but its foundation lies in these forces: Gravitational, Electromagnetic, Weak Nuclear and Strong Nuclear Forces.

Let me ask you a question: who will defend life on earth if a giant asteroid is on collision trajectory with the earth?

first technology does not make us special. We evolved and survived fine for millions of years without it. Many animals have been in existence for millions of years and they are doing just fine without any of the things man created. We are even doing damage to the planet and wild life than helping them.

As to the question of who would defend the planet from a giant asteriod. Pls don't be fooled by all you see in media and documentaries. Man is soooo helpless. Maybe a small asteriod can be blasted off collision course to the earth but not a big one.

It is just like the way america creates an illusion of their secret service being all knowing but truth is they are not all what they claim. It is all part of the strategy to make people feel they are in control.

And we should not be worried about an asteriod that is most unlikely to hit the earth. No asteriod as don any significant damage for how many years now? 100,000 years? A million years? Be worried about our fantastic stockpile of weapons of mas destruction. I guess that makes us special right?

felixomor:
Inconsequential, yet bamboozled u.
That highlights your level of thinking




Well, u have not even demonstrated your assimilation of my point.
So I dont see u grasping another.


Argument by repetitions
What drunkards do to assert an invalid point



God cannot be presumed
Please educate yourself
You keep vocalizing ignorance





Well, i actually went through the thread before.....
You may be the late comer here.....
Catch up....

You want me to subscribe to your red-herring tactics to prove my intellect? Lol. Sorry you can't play everyone. Try that with your feLlow sheep in church. The op remains valid and you have not said anything to dent it so far. I guess you are still struggling to understand the argument presented

felixomor:
Hurt over somebody that could not phantom the simplest of mathematical statements?

Your delusions are too strong

Lol. You mean your inconsequential mathematical statement? John made a point and there is no need pretending you didn't understand him. A circle is a circle, because it fits the defination of a circle. Scrutinize what you presume to be God by the definations and parameters of God and you realize your god, the god christians, muslims and other known religions actually fall short of what God should be. Read davian's post up there maybe it would help your poor comprehension

felixomor:
Your opinion doesn't count

dont hurt so much. you are too emotional

davien:
The mystery of this universe excites me more than the illusion of knowledge religion uses to wrap this mystery..


god wears clothes,speaks hebrew/arabic,has favourite people(but is still termed a fair being),loves specific type of foods,praises,fabrics,hates foreskins but keeps creating them,hates human nature when its supposedly his handiwork...is omniscient but keeps trying to fix things done wrong and cant say what the generation of the era it is believed in didn't know and yet someone comes to me to tell me i shouldn't raise an eyebrow to any of this?!

Shallow minds would never understand.

felixomor:
Your second name



A description of the argument u have made below


Why wont he be right in your sight?
Hian


You dont even know that if i decide to move from base 10 to maybe base 2, 360 degrees is no longer 360 degrees and that changes what a "circle" is.
Educate yourself.


The topic that drives u mad always


There is nothing like "your God"
God is God alone
Educate Yourself


Again "your God " is a vocalization of ignorance.
God is God
Even though descriptions may vary.

Your god is deficiant as God. An obvious contraption of the ignorant minds of it's creators.

Image123:
A life without God is meaningless, you must have preached this as a christian. Remember?

yes one of those "feel good" things we say. being a caucasian also means you belong to the most evolved and superior races

onyenze123:
HardMirror

I believe we Humans are special because we are the only creature that can create something magnificent from our mental capabilities. No other creature can do that.

Lots of animals if not all are special in their own way. I can't begin to go through them all, but I don't see anything special we have done as humans. Can you list these special things we have created?

shortgun:
In the Bible you will find that everything u see or do in this world is vanity, null and void.
You will know that u are only a visitor here; nothing you do or achieve will bring everlasting happiness to you.

Ok so you agree we humans aint special

shortgun:
The bible has all the answers to ur questions.

Kindly share the answers

Now this may seem like a question from a psychopath, but if we drop the play of being political correctness, then we may start to examine this more logically.

I honestly don't believe we humans are special.

I don't believe we have any high purpose.


What makes us think we are special?
1. Intelligence to kill.
Yes. That is the number one thing that makes us feel superior. We can alienate every other specie on earth.

This is synonymous to the superimacy of the whites over the blacks (Africans)
The whites dominated us, enslaved us, colonized us, dehumanized us ONLY because head to head they had better killing power, better weapons. Does it make them superior? I don't agree. Does it make them have a high purpose? No.

What is the big deal if all humans did not evolve to the level of confussion the human race has evolved to?

I am of the opinion that a frog may live a more fulfilling life than a human.

To what end is our intelligence.

What purpose do you presume we are "called" to and why do you hold dearly to life?

hopefulLandlord:
Wilgrea7 is one of the few theists that make sense in almost every post

I find his arguments more convincing cuz he doesn't make assertions with nothing to back them up

I've always studied his posts since the day he opened a thread on hell fire

That is goode should keep it up.

felixomor:
Somewhere in your mind, throwing a question u couldn't answer means i have not read your post.
Mscheww, SMH
If only i had said, u made sense,
Then u will know i read it ba?.....

I have read your post.
As i said, u r like the petulant little child of that rich father.....
Nothing more....

Stupid and unrelated to the topic. John has made it clear and he is right. A circle can only be a circle because it has the attributes of a circle, without which it is not a circle. Now what is god? Does your god fit into the defination of GOD? The honest answer is, your God or should I say the theistic God as we know "Him" is rather ridiculous and an insult to what God would really be even based on the extent to whic the human mind can presumably comprehend God. One your God even as the chrater of a "he" lol

Ishilove:
The weather is too hot to answer stupid questions.

Then stop throwing tantrums everywhere. The guy made a valid point why threaten him with ban? He did not insult you. Grow up

hopefulLandlord:
where is Hardmirror

he is in lagos

Ishilove:
You forgot to Cc President Buhari and Nnamdi Kanu.

Oya type more rubbish let me report you to the mods for Rule 2.

Or maybe I won't, because it is obvious quoting me and tagging half of Nairaland is one of the few things that bring joy, flavour and variety to your monotonous existence.

Cc Mynd44, lalasticlala, AfroSamurai

Report him How did he break rule 2? Must you be this petty at your age?