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Dencotext:
What do you mean by two masters in charge? Though I understand you, remember that JESUS is always in charge of EVERYTHING!

As for why the Church is still here? Just for today only, I wont use the word RAPTURE because I cannot find it in the bible, as sometimes it does not convey the sense I want. There would be the first resurrection. Unlike what pastors do teach on the pulpit it is not going to happen for us to escape tribulation. The bible have repeated severally that no one knows when the resurrection would occur, not even Jesus, only the Father in Heaven. The resurrection is a guarded secret in the BIBLE.

As for my personal opinion, what you guys deemed as the great tribulation it is not. The breaking of the sixth seal and the mighty earthquake, though it is the beginning of a terrible tribulation, it is still not the great tribulation. Of course, even now we are experiencing tribulation of some sorts and it would continue to increase astronomically. The tribulation would build up during the first 3.5 years starting with the sixth seal and when the first trumpet was blown. It would be a series of God judgement/punishment and wake up call for earth. It is not as gloomy as you think, minus the suffering... many people would start repenting and the harvest would be much, and the church would be around till the last trump call, which is the seventh trumpet. The antichrist BEAST would come on the world stage during the sixth trumpet period because the bottomless pit where he was in prison was blasted open by a falling star (meteorite) during the fifth trumpet call, allowing hoard of locusts to escape and torment those that are not saved. It wont harm born again people who have the seal of God... they would be leading those repenting to Christ.

But when the SEVENTH BUT last trumpet was blown by MICHAEL (no time frame was given) the great tribulation would begin; a physical war broke out in heaven. Satan was thrown down to the earth, a sign appeared in heaven of a woman about to give birth. Read Revelation 11:15 down and all through chapter 12. All hell broke lose... the woman born a male son, and fled into the wilderness and satan went to wage war against her offsprings and those that keep the testimonies of Jesus.

I believe with all my heart that the resurrection would only happen where Michael is mentioned in Revelation to collaborate with what Daniel said in Daniel 12: 1 "At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time; but at that time your people shall be delivered, every one whose name shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake..." Noticed that we the saints were still around this period, and the tribulation was cut short for their sake.

And as you may have noticed after all the trumpets were blown, nothing remains other than the seven fiery bowls which is the wrath of God to punish the Beast and all who have accepted the 666 mark. Now I agree that this would be period for the marriage supper of the Lamb in heaven, while the earth is severely punished by the wrath of God through those bowls. In the old, trumpets have always signal warning of an impending war or judgment. So it is the same in the Bible. 1 Corinthian 15: 52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the TRUMPET shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

Well said

mcdreeezy:
I just downloaded a song but I can't listen to it because I can't find it on Google Play music

Lol, download a music player for that, preferably black player

mcdreeezy:
What Oreo version looks like. I so miss Oreo

Update the contacts app and messages too on playstore, you'll have the option of choosing dark mode, it's dope af

Watch as nairaland feminists come for her in 3..2.1....

AbdallahKurfi:
Please who has used the Nokia X5 for more than 3 months. Is it true that it starts to develop charging problem after 3 months ?

I have. Mine didn't.

Has anyone checked the new Nokia 9, monster of a phone.

ariketalks:
This guy (whoever he is) said the bitter truth albeit in an offensive way to many. That Vogue cover is TERRIBLE. We love Adesua, but it raises concern that the image had to be altered so much and poorly so to make her look like the stereotypical "black woman". It is myopic and grossly unintelligent for anyone to think all black people are darkskinned.
Adesua looks unrecognisable in that picture, and they even mischieviously positioned her where she can easily go overlooked. If i had seen the cover elsewhere, i would never have thought that was Adesua tbh.

Finally, someone who has sense.

Mizik:

That's the bokeh feature

excel127:
Pls recommend the best jered sanders album u hav listened too, lemme see if I'll add him to my playlist

Hurry up and wait
Gift of Gab

Mizik:
I Actually think the bug is from the February security patch.
I honestly can't wait to get this phone.i need to explore the life out of it... Lol

I downloaded the security patch too. About 287mb

Galadimat:
did u get mtn 4g after updating?

I don't use MTN so I've not tried it out

OLUWABIG:
Actually i knew KB through Dove awards how did i know him ? i was madly vexed that TBN couldnt broadcast the award live last year so i decided to check the winners online only to see KB get nominated in various categories and he won some so am like i gat to check him out then bang i fell in love with him

Do you know Sevin too, he was a former gangster before he became born again but his lyrics are straight fire. You can check out his album "Rather die than deny"

Kykyblaze:
bad report: do not update to pie lot of bugs alot (though mtn 4g is working on mine after update)

Do NOT update to pie, I did an update yesterday and today am experiencing a lot of bugs. Best advice, wait for a stable / bugless version.

How do I go back to android 8? Worst my phone keeps rebooting, ram management is poor

I updated to pie about 3 weeks ago and mine has been stable(Nokia X5) I think it boils down to luck. You may or may not get bugs

OLUWABIG:
After listening to both songs coupled with " new portrait " and you still cant see any meaning in christian comtemporary then your issue is beyond me

I think kB got the award for best worship album at dove awards. I liked that new portrait mehn, especially because I listened to da truth's version first

OLUWABIG:
yeah sure the album is very dope

Art of drifting and Bring you war was just too much

OLUWABIG:
have you ever watched KB's " art of drifting documentary" ? you will know why KB will not want to mess up with God and i have also watched Trip Lee preach too at least two sermons

Yeah. Did you listen to kb's last album. That was his best album in my opinion

OLUWABIG:
Hmm have you ever spotted any of them especially Pastor Trip Lee or KB ?

I so much dislike self righteous christians, next thing he'll say is trip Lee is a false preacher

alBHAGDADI:
When I want to listen to rap music, I listen DMX and 2pac. I don't go about fooling myself by listening to gospel rap. Doing such is tantamount to smoking weed after wrapping it with a page from the Bible. Such can be called gospel weed

You want to compare 2pac's lyrics and lifestyle with trip Lee or Andy mineo? You are not in anyway knowledgeable about Christian hip hop, I'm not a newbie and I sure know what I'm talking about. I've been following them for years which you haven't

alBHAGDADI:
Failure to look into the old testament laws is the reason why you are not obeying the Holy Spirit when he speaks against cross dressing, earrings and long hair by men.

Since you have discarded the old testament, how can you know what the Holy Spirit is even telling you?

Do those who wear earrings and long hair as men even have the holy Spirit?

If yes, why isn't he telling them that it is wrong?

I guess they failed to listen.

Wearing of earrings is a normal cultural thing done over there, same with long hair. So you want to tell me those guys are going to hell because of hairstyle? Most of them are better Christians than you and I

alBHAGDADI:
Failure to look into the old testament laws is the reason why you are not obeying the Holy Spirit when he speaks against cross dressing, earrings and long hair by men.

Since you have discarded the old testament, how can you know what the Holy Spirit is even telling you?

Do those who wear earrings and long hair as men even have the holy Spirit?

If yes, why isn't he telling them that it is wrong?

I guess they failed to listen.

You seem to have a problem with them in general. Do you listen to foreign gospel artists? If you do, I'll like you to list them here

alBHAGDADI:
Failure to look into the old testament laws is the reason why you are not obeying the Holy Spirit when he speaks against cross dressing, earrings and long hair by men.

Since you have discarded the old testament, how can you know what the Holy Spirit is even telling you?

Do those who wear earrings and long hair as men even have the holy Spirit?

If yes, why isn't he telling them that it is wrong?

I guess they failed to listen.

You are bringing culture into the Bible bro, in some tribes here in Nigeria, men tie wrappers like women and does that mean they've disobeyed God's law of not wearing what belongs to a woman. For the rappers using earrings and all, are you the holy spirit to judge them?

alBHAGDADI:
They won't do such because Christians preach against it. But before Christianity, such was the order of the day.

The holy Spirit guides you into all things. It reminds you of what God said in the Bible.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:13 King James Version (KJV)
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

I'm glad you at least believe in the holy spirit. What happens is when we're saved, our nature has been changed from the old sinful nature. If we are tempted by sin, the holy spirit helps us to avoid it and if we fall into sin, the holy spirit convicts us. You don't need the law to know what's right from wrong. The holy spirit helps you to do that

alBHAGDADI:
You don't seem to know why Jesus died. To you, he died so we will no longer obey God's laws. That's a wrong idea.

Before he came, Mankind was dependent on the law as a means of eternal salvation. It was very difficult for them to keep, so Jesus came to die for mankind. We now attain eternal salvation by believing in his death, burial and resurrection. That is our ticket to heaven, not by doing the law. This doesn't say we can now throw away the law. If that's what it means , then we can now all be homosexuals, rapists, murderers, cross dresser etc. But since all these things have punishment even in the new testament, then we as children of God are to keep obeying such laws because God frowns against those who don't.

Please read your Bible and stop listening to rap music .

I read both my Bible and I listen to rap music, I've always been a lover of music and Christian rap is good enough. Simple. Just say you don't like rap as a whole and we'll end the argument.

alBHAGDADI:
You don't seem to know why Jesus died. To you, he died so we will no longer obey God's laws. That's a wrong idea.

Before he came, Mankind was dependent on the law as a means of eternal salvation. It was very difficult for them to keep, so Jesus came to die for mankind. We now attain eternal salvation by believing in his death, burial and resurrection. That is our ticket to heaven, not by doing the law. This doesn't say we can now throw away the law. If that's what it means , then we can now all be homosexuals, rapists, murderers, cross dresser etc. But since all these things have punishment even in the new testament, then we as children of God are to keep obeying such laws because God frowns against those who don't.

Please read your Bible and stop listening to rap music .

When did I say Jesus died so we wouldn't obey God's law. One important thing you omitted was the importance of the holy spirit, do you even believe in the holy spirit at all? The holy spirit guides us into all truth. Will the holy spirit inspire you to steal, will he inspire you to fornicate? What I'm saying his we no longer look to the old testament laws. The laws were made because of sin.

alBHAGDADI:
You keep coming up with more confusion of yours.

You mean the Bible is no longer valid today because it was written during an old culture? You have not only thrown away the old testament but you have also done same to the new Testament.

Na wah for you o

Is that all what you could infer from what I said, I read both the old and new testament. If you believe we are still under some parts of the law, you have thrown away the new testament.

alBHAGDADI:
I thought I just told you to go and sleep with your sister.

If you don't have a sister, I'm sure you do have a mother. Go and sleep with her because Jesus has fulfilled that law against.

Even most unbelievers wouldn't do such, does that mean they're saved. I have one final question for you, what is the role and importance of the holy spirit?

So you think Jesus died so we could be free from some parts of the law. Just take your bible and read the whole new testament. Let's end this argument after this please as I'll no longer reply any mentions

alBHAGDADI:
Didn't you see where I said that the parts of the old testament laws which we are no longer to obey were specifically changed in the new testament?

Example is the law against eating pig and certain other animals. That law was changed in the new testament, that's why we now eat all things except blood which is still an old testament commandment.

Oh God!, Do you even read the Bible at all? Jesus fulfilled the law bro. It's in the new testament word for word, we are no longer under the law but under grace, he didn't say under some parts of the law, the whole law

alBHAGDADI:
Yes, but deceived people like you disobey that commandment.

You claim you are no longer under the old testament law, but the new Testament law given by Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit still gets rejected by you folks.
Same way you reject the law against men wearing long hair.

New testament law given by Paul? Are you kidding me? Let me say this clearly since it seems you have a problem with comprehension. In the new testament, Paul and other apostles have explicitly stated we are not under any law. Why would the holy spirit give laws through Paul when we have the same holy spirit.
And why Paul said women shouldn't speak in church was because of the cultural ordinances of those days. Where the spirit of God is, there is liberty.

alBHAGDADI:
If earrings and long hair worn by men have no eternal significance, why would Paul speak against such?

What you are saying in essence is that Jesus died on the cross for all of us to become cross dressers.

The same Paul said women shouldn't speak in church

alBHAGDADI:
Don't you get it?

Yes we are saved by Grace, but we work out that salvation by showing it to the world. How does wearing your hair like a woman and also putting on earrings differentiate you from those who rent saved like Future, Lil Wayne, J Cole etc?

Will allow someone who has weed in his mouth preach to you? You sure sound like the type to allow such.

The verse you quoted doesn't say we shouldn't obey the law. It only says we are not saved by it but by the grace of Jesus. This doesn't mean we should go about disobeying the laws cos we will get punished by God.

If that's your logic, how does the shirt and trouser you wear differentiate you from the unsaved politicians embezzling our money. Some unsaved people dress decently and are still unsaved

alBHAGDADI:
Don't you get it?

Yes we are saved by Grace, but we work out that salvation by showing it to the world. How does wearing your hair like a woman and also putting on earrings differentiate you from those who rent saved like Future, Lil Wayne, J Cole etc?

Will allow someone who has weed in his mouth preach to you? You sure sound like the type to allow such.

The verse you quoted doesn't say we shouldn't obey the law. It only says we are not saved by it but by the grace of Jesus. This doesn't mean we should go about disobeying the laws cos we will get punished by God.

Like a preacher said, the basic problem some Christians have is comprehension. It is in the same Bible that whoever fails to observe one part of the law has disobeyed the whole law, if you don't observe everything written in Deuteronomy, then you have disobeyed everything according to your logic