TheMadame:


Okay.
It is obvious you have never read the Bible if this is your answer to the question asked.

That's presumptuous. A proper study of the bible in it's right historical context will make any theodicy needless.

TheMadame:


Have you ever read the bible from cover to cover?
Genesis to Revelation?

Yeah. The God of the old testament is the same as that of the New testament

Caveatemptor:





Lol.
OP, is this question not funny?
This is how they will avoid the simple question,but will drive you mad with their asinine and absurd answers.

I haven't posted an explanation, have I? Proverbs says only a fool judges a matter without hearing it first

Different as how?

immaculatesense:

Dear Harshirama
I was reading this ur write-up and it looked as though I was reading my own write up...I av never seen a person write in a way that conveys my total thought...I don't need to write on it anymore...u wrote exactly wat I would have,the way I would have...without mincing words...
God bless u...

Wow. Thanks a lot. God bless you too sir

Receiving the Holy Spirit it what happens at salvation. Once a man believes the gospel of christ, he immediately receives the indwelling of the spirit.

Ephesians 1:13
[13]In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Romans 8:9
[9]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

1 Corinthians 2:12
[12]Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

After the indwelling of the spirit, there's another experience known as the baptism of Holy Spirit, also the same as being filled with the spirit/or the spirit upon. It refers to the spirit within the believer finding expression.

Ephesians 5:18-19
[18]And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
[19]Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Acts 2:4
[4]And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

The baptism of the holy spirit/being filled with the spirit is when the believer who has believed the gospel yields to the spirit now within him. This is accompanied by a visible manifestation, most especially utterance. All instances of men being filled with the spirit in the New testament shows that they either spoke as a result of yielding to the spirit, or performed actions by the holy ghost.

Splendidgee:
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Spherical77:
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Uniqueaccountant:
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greencard:
how can a Christian tell if a person is operating under the spirit of divination?

Just the way paul did toward the young girl whom was actually saying about Paul showing the way of truth , which of course is true , Paul shows way of truth but how did Paul knew she was talking under the influence of divination and not from God?

The gift of discerning of spirits. At other times, your spirit will just react if you come in contact with contrary spirits. The feeling of "something is not right here"

Truvelisback:
No, having the spirit doesn't equally means u av the gifts of the HolySpirit. the fruits of the HolySpirit and the gifts of the HolySpirit aren't the same. All christians have the Spirit but not all christians have the gifts of the HolySpirit.

I know the gifts and fruits are different. I was only citing them as an example. But they are both works of the spirit. I think the main issue here is how you are seeing the word "gift". The gifts refer to abilities and faculties, not like a present or something you have to pray for. If you want to get more information, just study the book of acts and you'll see. The holy spirit is not separate from his gifts, and the holy spirit is not separate from the believer.

Truvelisback:
It's obvious that u are mixing things up.

How sir? It's obvious the gifts are the abilities or faculties of the spirit. If they are of the spirit and you have the spirit, you have the gifts in you already. It's simple deduction. Having however does not equal manifestation, which is why many christians don't. Same way all christians have the spirit and not all christians show the fruit of the spirit.

Truvelisback:
U can't manifest what u don't have. The gifts aren't something u practice, No. There is a place in the Bible that says: Do all have the gifts of healings? Do all have the gift of working of miracles? 4rm this Bible passage, it's obvious that not every believer has these gifts. In the Bible, there people who were born again but didn't have or manifest these gifts, either Peter or Paul imparted them With the gift(s) by laying his hand on them. I have done these b4, so i am talking from experience.

Let me explain. When Paul asked that question in the last part of Cor 12, the focus was on how to minister the gifts in a more excellent manner i.e to minister in love and in an orderly manner.

1 Corinthians 12:29-31
[29]Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
[30]Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
[31]But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

So the question was more like a rhetorical question, i.e even if you all have these things (gifts of healing, prophecy, apostles, teachers), seek to minister the gifts in the best way. The best gifts there refer to gifts manifested with love.

1 Corinthians 13:1-2
[1]IF I [can] speak in the tongues of men and [even] of angels, but have not love (that reasoning, intentional, spiritual devotion such as is inspired by God's love for and in us), I am only a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
[2]And if I have prophetic powers (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose), and understand all the secret truths and mysteries and possess all knowledge, and if I have [sufficient] faith so that I can remove mountains, but have not love (God's love in me) I am nothing (a useless nobody).

Meaning operating all the spiritual gifts and ministry gifts without love is futile.

On the issue of laying on of hands. What it does to help stir up the gift that is in them already through the power of God. It is similar to a situation where there is light but the switch is off, you can simply press the switch to make the light visible. But that doesn't mean there wasn't power supply available before. I have also laid hands on people for that many times. Whereas I didn't need to do so in some cases.

Truvelisback:
Lol, no, they aren't part of a believers nature otherwise every believer would have been manifesting the gifts. These are the ways the gift(s) comes:
1. By the HolySpirit at His own will(grace). Not even because of ur fastings or prayers. This could be during deep worship or fervent prayer in a gathering or church, most times conducted by an anointed men of God.
2. Impartation of the Holyghost
3. Individual fastings and prayers.

Having does not equal to manifesting. God doesn't force anything on anyone. Like I said, the gifts are abilities, freely bestowed. It's up to the believer to desire and exercise the gifts by faith.

1 Corinthians 14:1
[1]Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
[39]Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

Truvelisback:
There is a big difference btw having the gift and assuming that u av the gift. What many some folks calls prophecy today, is simply 4rm their own mind, not the mind of God. If u av the gift of God, it will be evident in ur life. I repeat, the gifts of the HolySpirit doesn't comes immediately to anyone who becomes a born again christian except the HolySpirit at His own will decides to do that on that believer. In most cases, the believer has to engage himself or herself in a fervent fastings and prayer b4 he or she can have those experience. Another way is by impartation of the Holyghost by or 4rm anointed men of God or Spirit filled believers.

The gifts are not an experience for the believer. They are part of the believer's nature. The gifts mean 'charisma' in the Greek, i.e freely bestowed, an endowment.

1 Corinthians 12:6-7
[6]And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
[7]But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man(every believer) to profit withal.

Manifestation here refers to the revelation of the spirit of God during salvation. This is when you have all the gifts/things of the spirit. Besides, in 1 Cor 12:1, the original translation actually says "Concerning Spirituals". Gifts there is italicized in the modern translation, it was added to help the meaning. Spirituals= Pneumatikon i.e things of the spirit, things in the spirit, or things pertaining to the spirit.

The gifts are the abilities of the spirit. It's like a Christian crying for God's power when God's power actually lives in him. So the gifts of the spirit are not an external addition, they come with the spirit. Just like it's normal for humans to walk and talk, the things of the spirit are for everyone who has the holy spirit. Prayer and fasting only help you to dominate your flesh and become more tuned to the spirit. Lastly, operating the gifts of the spirit becomes better with time and practice. Ask anyone who flows in the gifts, they will tell you their first time wasn't at smooth as now.

bmdmix11:


Forget using the book to hide face.
na so una dey do be going bout feeling in d spirit n b deceiving people

The book?

bmdmix11:
stop lying none of u do u can't, u just yapping rubbish.


if they put u n another tongue yapping in different n tell u both to translate what u said in English n what d other is saying u both will either bite ur tongue or conclude that d other isn't speaking in tongue

Bro, do you even understand what speaking in tongues and interpretation is? I expect you to explain through the scriptures, not your own bias.

LordReed:


Can you post an audio recording of you interpreting tongues?

Why? To prove the scriptures are true?

Truvelisback:
Oga, there is a price to pay. Those people u mention, did it just happened to them all because they were born again? If the only qualification is being born again, why can't all born again christian operate in the gift? Secondly, the gifts comes from the HolySpirit at his own will. The price their is fasting and pray. Those folks fasted and prayed like mad. And their fastings and fervent prayers broke into the realm that brought these gifts. Bro, U can receive these gifts by just being mere born again.

Boss, show me from the scriptures where they said there's a price to pray. Although I agree that praying a lot will make you more sensitive to the spirit. But the gifts of the spirit come with the holy spirit at salvation.

The bible says he that is joined unto the lord is one spirit with him. So whatever comes with the spirit of God is available to you. The reason many don't function in these gifts is lack of desire and wrong information. Just like it is impossible to receive from God without faith, you can't operate in the gifts of the spirit well if you don't desire them or you have the wrong information.

When Paul was writing to the Corinthian church, he said they came behind in no gift.
1 Corinthians 1:7
[7]So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

However, he still called them carnal some chapters later. So, that also shows that any christian can operate in the gift of the spirit. You can't call something a gift and claim you have to work for it. If you're a Christian, just desire them like the bible instructs and be observant, you'll notice them manifesting.

Kobojunkie:
What is it that you are "ministering" to other believers that the one who is their Teacher -Matthew 23 vs 8 - is unable to teach them directly as He stated He would - Matthew 13 vs 12 ?

Kindly give us an example of what you have infacf been able to interpret so far?

What are some of these things you claim people have been able to tell you via this medium?

1 Corinthians 12:8-10
[8]For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9]To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[10]To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

1 Corinthians 14:26
[26]How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

Lol, will you ask me to send my BVN and password too? They were personal issues I never told anyone. I also have received instructions and prophecies from the spirit of God for people through prophecy

Truvelisback:
The reason is that, not many people crave 4 it and not many are ready to pay the price.

There's no price for it. The only qualification is to be born again. Speaking in tongues and interpretation are what is known as prophecy. In many instances where people spoke in tongues in acts. They also prophesied.

Acts 19:2, 4-6
and said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” They replied, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”

Paul said, “John baptized with a baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, in Jesus.” When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus,

and when Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they began to speak in tongues and to prophesy.

Many christians still interpret tongues. I have and I still do. Interpretation of tongues is useful especially when ministering to other believers. If you don't plan to interpret, then it's better to speak to yourself and God only, just like in 1 Corinthians 14.
So OP, don't conclude christians don't interpret tongues. Many still do. I've had people tell me things I never told anyone through that medium.

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Dtruthspeaker:


You are definitely on Repeat Mode so you can Repeat my Answer to this point and Repeat Again and Again as you like.

Repitition brings clarity. How did you learn things in nursery school, you learnt it over and over again. Now take your Bible and read over and over again, maybe you'd gain understanding.

Dtruthspeaker:


I have already discharged my duty of Issuing you the Warning, so there is nothing reasonably more for me to do.

If you're reasonable, you'd read your Bible very well and pray. Not wishing a fellow christian will backslide.

Dtruthspeaker:


HardMirror and co exactly said this and today, they are worse of.

It would show.

No need to argue for long. We're both born again and have the holy spirit. Why not pray and ask the holy spirit to reveal the truth. Come back and tell me the answer

Dtruthspeaker:


How can The Lord, Jesus and His Disciples speak against when it has not been done?



You obviously do not appreciate that Paul Spoke at least 2 Natural Tongues/Dialects/Language. The Disciples tongue ( Hebrew), the Roman tongue (Greek).

And the disciples clearly have only ONE, the Hebrew language.

But as I said earlier before you become an atheist, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Lmao, clearly you don't know bible interpretation. Paul neither referred to Hebrew nor Greek when talking about tongues. Jesus also said in mark 16:17 "they shall speak with new tongues"

New - kainós – properly, new in quality (innovation), fresh in development or opportunity – because "not found exactly like this before. b. as respects substance; of a new kind; unprecedented, novel, uncommon, unheard of

Now tell me what the tongues are, you're saying Greek and Hebrew. Just let go of your pride and receive the gift of God.

Dtruthspeaker:


I did not attack you, I am telling you your future. That's what HardMirror, and many other prayer kabashing folks who thought they were talking to God, said until they got tired after He still did not Hear them nor Answered them, after months and years of serious kabashing and tonguing.

Then they they started to cry "There is No God O."

They are your future and you are presently living their past.

If you like change your way or if you like continue, I am not affected by your outcome either way but I am simply satisfied that I have Warned You.

You are speaking out of ignorance. And God forbid, they are not my future. I speak to God and God speaks to me. Back to my question, have you ever seen spiritual gifts operate in your own life? My guess is no.

Dtruthspeaker:


Are you on Repeat Mode? You said this at the beginning, so this bullet no dey again.

As i said before, At least before you become a Hater of God (Atheist) the spirits will stand Against you THAT YOU WERE WARNED THAT YOU WERE DOING A VANITY AND THAT GOD WILL NEVER EVER EVER HEAR YOU.

I intentionally posted a different translation. I wanted to see you argue with the scriptures. Have you ever wondered that Jesus or the apostles never spoke against what you are speaking against. Paul even said "I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all". Last last, na you dey miss out.

Dtruthspeaker:


How does my experience change the Word of God when I Fulfill it? "BEFORE I (they) call, I will answer; and while I (they) are yet speaking, I will hear".

You can continue wasting your time and energy doing a vanity after all it is your time and energy and failures and lack NOT MINE.

At least before you become a Hater of God (Atheist) the spirits will stand Against you THAT YOU WERE WARNED THAT YOU WERE DOING A VANITY AND THAT GOD WILL NEVER EVER EVER HEAR YOU.

You've not proven anything from the scriptures, stop resorting to personal attacks. I'll never become an atheist. I'll keep practicing what the word says. Keep doing yours. Time will tell

Dtruthspeaker:


For more than 20 years since I began learning to follow The Way of The Lord, it has been well and weller and wellerler with me up till yesterday. My prayers are answered even before I think to pray.

Gbagbaboski shimarima is absolutely filthy and a Vanity You Ain't talking to God or rather you are talking and HE IS NEVER GONNA HEAR YOU.

1 Corinthians 14:2
[2]For one who speaks in an [unknown] tongue speaks not to men but to God, for no one understands or catches his meaning, because in the [Holy] Spirit he utters secret truths and hidden things [not obvious to the understanding].
AMP translation