₦airaland Forum

DeepSight:
Clearly we have to take a step back. I can see now the problem with my not having explained why the universe cannot be eternal in the past, relying on the fact that you concurred that it had a beginning. That was a problem. Because there is a factor in there that we do not necessarily agree on, but glossed over. Here it is.

Matter cannot be eternal in the past because it is mutable. A thing that changes form cannot be eternal in the past.

Now, this is a statement that a lot of people seem to struggle with whereas some immediately grasp. I would ask that you take a few minutes to dwell carefully on it, and see if you find agreement with it before we proceed. If you don't, I will attempt an explanation.

how can u be sure the universe exists when u say it was preceded in the absence of time?

PoliteActivist:
But Einstein discovered (entirely thinking in his study) that time doesn't work like that, that it is intertwined with space and motion. He imagined two trains speeding in opposite directions. They'll record different times for an occurrence. Also the faster the soeed, the slower time gets till it stands still at speed of light and reverses beyond that - and you have time travel into the past!
As for thoughts, I'll try to think like Einstein. We know you cannot NOT think of something (eg a pink elephant) no matter how you try. We also know you can't decide what dream you'll have no matter how you try. We also know people can be hypnotized and told what to do - yet they'll swear it was a their free will, that they are not being controlled. All these will seem to indicate we have no power to override our own thoughts, yet those thoughts were just there - we're not the ones who chose them!

u dont understand

i was not talking about trains moving

i was talking about being preceded in the absence of time ...not possible.

Realz99:
I have tried severally, it seems impossible

U will never overcome these things

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
That's why I say atheism is by far the most STUPID postion a person can adopt. See how you did not attempt to answer the questions as to where your thoughts come from? Or where your dreams come from? I have a friend who is a very devout Christian. She always dreams of same entity coming to have sex with her. When she's strong in her faith it doesn't happen. When she starts slacking off, it happens again. There are so many dimensions and levels to existence, it's as if we hardly know anything! See below, Einstein on us being like a child in a library. I'll add to it that the child can't read, doesn't know how many rooms are in the library, doesn't know how many libraries there are, and doesn't even know if the library is "real" or if he is in dream or hallucinating!
Imagine such a child making declarations, like nothingness cannot exist, or there is no God!

As for Einstein being "authority" (someone else said he's overrated). I think it is a case of a pharaoh has come who doesn't know Joseph. Do you know Einstein was the person who persuaded Roosevelt about developing nuclear weapons that ended the war by showing him the Germans were in the process of developing it using his formulas. Do you know Einstein came up with his perception-changing theories in his study through thought experiments, with no technical equipments? I bet you still don't understand how time and space are a continuum, spacetime, and how our gravity is not a force exerted by earth but a curvature in spacetime.
So, there is authority, then there is authority. Especially when all the geniuses of our time are also saying we are likely in a simulation or matrix, and glitches abound that support that. All point to something or someone being behind our reality, not mere happenstance!

There is no such thing as universe/EVERYTHING that exists



It makes no sense to say something happened..(past) ..in the absence of time.



There must be time if one thing must precede some other.

The entire big bang/universe concept is rubbish

As 4 thoughts, they are overrated.

Even death is overrated.

Whether u send that murny or not, it remains that way.



U think,hence ur thoughts.

They come from you.

Itz just part of what makes u. Thats why you call it yours.

Nonsense

PoliteActivist:
(** It seems my good friend LordReed has been banned. But I have a feeling he's still here with us )

😆Quite funny. But funny aside, let's analyze this Einstein. Have you ever pondered where your thoughts come from. Or where your dreams come from? Those are the kind of things Einstein spent months on end thinking about before comming forward with a position.
Considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality), it is not wise to dismiss his position on that topic as "Appeal to Authority"

Can u help me with any amount of money?

paramakina202:
Mention your state fes.

After i steal from you


Cant u see all is not well?

Wherever the state




damn damn damn

Itiskdg121:
I don't usually do this, but we should start placing curse on these people one after the other.
People are suffering like this but someone came online to spew rubbish.
May your life turn to Nigerians situation. Ediot

imagine that thing having access to cyberspace

paramakina202:
Is Onitsha or Anambra not better than your state? BTW, we are waiting for the builder of Lagos to start building Nigeria but all we are seeing is Tinubulation everywhere .

better ?

in terms of poverty?


both ahmed obi and jagavan can furk off!

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
Nope. Just won't let you get away with saying that a clearly pejorative, aggressive, rhetorical question was an earnest attempt to elicit information!
Really ridiculous!😅

does it matter why he asked or what he meant by asking?

is einstein not overrated?


is he worth all these?

has anything ever started selling from here?

PlanetZero:
Go sit down. Na imf dey embezzle our money left and right? Imf stop our politicians from infrastructural development?

Make una dey deceive una sef

let imf ask 4 our aZa

Cutezt:
Like, I went home and realized my dogs food was finished, instead of going the long distance to the mall, I decided to get her indomie for the night, only for me to get to the nearby shop and was told indomie belleful is now 700 NAIRA.

Haaa! All I can say is that I thank God I am able to afford it, but what about people who can't? It's crazy out here folks.

u know

can u spare me 1k?

Adamux:
Are you trying to say all Fulani herdsmen are murderers?

spits

teamoneline:
The problem of Nigeria is just INEC. You can't put the wrong people in power and want them to do the right thing. As far as INEC is setup by the same politicians you are complaining about then Nigeria will never move forward. Let non political/partisan past and present leaders of ASUU,NBA,NANS,NLC come together and setup and conduct elections and watch if Nigeria will not work

even if they set it up, itz the same politicians that will contest with the same aim,4get


the economy needs people with a different aim but these politicians have made it too expensive for such people.



these politicians control the courts,therefore control the law.

therefore ,those with a different aim, which is to reduce cost of politics/governance , have to make enough money to get there first.

Makamatic:
Another fmt to take do bambiala for nairalanders

abeg


try sense

blacknp:
Like I told you initially nothing wrong with the Nigeria constitution, the people practicing the constitution are the problem.

Animals have no respect for order, they prefer force ie Military Rule.

the nigerian constitution is in support of certain things apart from otis cars....that cant help matters.

in fact, all they enjoy is 2 expensive.


military rule does not stop military rulers from doing worse

blacknp:
Lack of critical thinking in application, inability to think out the box.

in other words, they did not devise/determine a better strategy to steal than the politicians.

blacknp:
Isn’t the Act that created the EFCC a creation of the National Assembly?

All Acts of parliament get there powers from the constitution.

Have we not had the chairman of the EFCC into
'legendary' corruption?

Is the EFCC not witholding info that is useful unto specifically and verifiably exposing those worthless rulers?

how many politicians have they stopped from living an unimaginably lavish lifestyle?

blacknp:
There is nothing like a perfect constitution, nothing wrong with the constitution 1999 as Amended, the people are just lazy minded.

Give us the United States & Swiss Constitution we will be bigger failures.

I never asked for a perfect constitution.

Define lazy minded

blacknp:
Go and read the constitution instead of you exhibiting your ignorance on social media.

I did not mean literally nothing

U can write and speak


Will that stop him from such things?

verifiablefacts:
Yes, but as a beginner, you need more time and practice.

Can we chat on whatsapp then?

carl90:
Fancy you hating on one's invention.
Bad belle !

Keep overhyping shit


What value does it add to you?

Paraman:
The constitution did not tell Otti to buy 2 cars for #1.5 billion.

But the constitution wont allow u do anything

What can u do?

U cant stop him

Goodlady:
Go n watch Nollywood Yoruba.
Arigini arigini arigini woja lodifa fun Orunmila nigbati o mbo wasi Nigeria lati Ethiopia.
Ohun naa lodifa fun iwo HellVictorinho6 wipe, koshi lonsi church, gba Jesu saye re!

Is this a poem?

verifiablefacts:
First order the Oracle from Amazon then continue from there.

Can i steal it tru some incantantion?

Goodlady:
Go to church

U sabi incantantion?

Minsk24:
There are issues with the Nigerian Constitution but we must not forget to point blames at the inept and corrupt leaders we ve had...if u handover a perfect constitution needs these people, them go still cast am

U cant have a working constitution if it provides the legalization of their over expensive lifestyle

psucc:
Thank God you are saying the same thing.
It's not the Constitution that is the problem but the managers of our resources. They're in an unholy alliance against the poor.

Corruption and lopsided/selective implementation of the Constitution are the twin pillars that hinder Nigeria development

The constitution is empowering them

Scholace:
Some uncles are truly useless. My dad singlehandedly raised his little brother till he becomes adult. He sent him to school while my mum linked him up with a job in an oil company. This Uncle of mine doesn't not send any of us, including my mum and his brother my father. We his niece and nephew are suffering with no help in sight. Don't you think we have a right to tell him to his face that he's wicked?

yeah ,some ,not all


av experienced both versions

psucc:
Which Constitution?

Honestly, should the letters of the Constitution as presently written are observed, Nigeria would be competing with not just US but Sweden, Singapore, development-wise.

For example, if we observed the Fiscal Federalism, where each region, in this case States explore the resources in their domain, every state will be doing something and not going cap in hand to Abuja every month end for allocation.

Every state of the federation would have exploited its area of economic advantage ranging from agriculture to mineral exploration

are u saying the states dont collect tax or generate anything?

are the allocations not just 1 out of several ways they make mula?

stop trying to defend the govs


itz becuz they dont get punished


the senators, the ministers, all of them


the prisons are useless

the constitution has failed


it will always fail when itz based on rubbish


spits

they think cutting off power supply can help the masses


selfish bastards

they are just as useless as the govt they complain about