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TLona1:
That is why he has the second most goal contributions in 2022.

Messi is indeed a victim of his greatness.

One of the highest goal contributions in 2022 yeat they're still calling him finished because he's not doing 60s and 70s.

Y'all just place Messi above indirectly without even realising.

Your last paragraph is true.

TLona1:
Arguing with this one na just waste of time.

He said I should show him an international tournament where Messi was the highest goalscorer excluding 2021.

What kind of weed are you on?

That guy na ma.d man . That one don use head knack ground.

Trevor012:
Chelsea with their billion Squad and millions spent in the last 5 seasons cannot even finish 2nd. Shekpites are dull sha

But have ucl which man city is yet to win. Why Man U the highest spender so far never win spoon for how many years now.

Jokerman:
Pessi wey dem dey pity give award..

Tell Pessi to win best player on another league apart from UEFALONA

Pity? Probably you think na Nigeria politicians dey organize the award or na Messi papa invent football. People see beyond just scoring goals in his game. Even if Messi nor score he will still be useful to his team but if cr7 nor score he becomes useless and benched, this is why he is always obsesss with scoring at the detriment of team progress. He was criticized in his last game for Portugal by Portuguese and his sister started blabbing rubbish.

Trevor012:
Scoring poverty stricken 6 goals is not below any nonsense standard. Your fraudulent Goat was missing clear cut chances and was rightly voted as Ligue 1 fraud and flop of the season. Flopping in a a farmers league. What a pitiful disgrace for your Fraudulent Goat that can only perform in la Liga.

m u g u na Messi name be this? You just like to lie and argue irrationally.

Trevor012:
If foolishness generated electricity, yours will power the entire earth. Mad man go and play with your kind.

Even your comrade on here don’t take you serious, they rarely engage your take on football matters because they know you often yarn dust, that’s how bad it is.

TLona1:
Zero stats? The World Cup MVP he won in 2014 was truly deserved. Argentina scored 8 goals in that tournament and Messi was directly involved in 7 of them.

Copa America, he was the highest goalscorer, highest assister and best player of the tournament.

I don't know which stats you're talking about.

You are replying trevor12, he is the most fo.Oliseh Man U fan on here.

Jokerman:
He won best player at FIFA CLUB WORLD CUP Cup.

He came 2nd 2016. We know if not for the injury at the finals, he would have won it.

However he has won best player in 3 different leagues my brother... its not easy.. even Pessi can't do it...

Mbappe no go gree

On national team were they mostly play with not so good players has Ronaldo won best player of any international tournament? Which is no but Messi has won it all on that level.

Jokerman:
He won best player at FIFA CLUB WORLD CUP Cup.

He came 2nd 2016. We know if not for the injury at the finals, he would have won it.

However he has won best player in 3 different leagues my brother... its not easy.. even Pessi can't do it...

Mbappe no go gree

You are a clown then, he played in Man U who were the best team in the league as at then and played in Madrid who were one of the best team if not the best so how does that change anything. Messi has won player of the tournament in every national team competition he has played whereas, cr7 hasn’t. Cr7 was worked for to shine at Madrid by his team mate, Benzema sacrificed his scoring prowess for him, same Benzema about to win balon d” or and led his team to ucl glory without cr7. Perez allowed cr7 to go without blinking an eye, to tell him he is not that important and the club gave him more fame by playing to his strength.

femianski:
What did you expect him to say? He'll say Ronaldo na

He is a clown then and probably a ga.y cos it’s only them and kids that lack football knowledge and fan cr7 out of ignorance.

Jokerman:
You are a clown.

Ronaldo is bigger and better than all those clowns you mentioned. None of them has his records, goals, assists, awards, skills or dribbling technique, only Messi can be compared and put on the same level as Ronaldo.

No one else.

Ronaldo did it at 3 different leagues and countries, I'm waiting for Messi to prove himself the way he did at Uefalona though.....

Ronaldo and Messi are on a different table.

Okay I want to ask you this simple question; between cr7 and Messi who is the better footballer?

I don’t want to hear goals or assist because goal per match ratio messi beats him, he beats him in assist and awards. Messi has won player of the tournament in every national competition he has played whereas, Ronaldo hasn’t. No need to mention individual awards because Messi beats him. So by eye test on fundamental football ability wise, between cr7 and Messi who is the better footballer?

Jokerman:
You don't have answers to my reply... now you want to shift the goalpost as usual....

If Pessi is great for you fine, Ronaldo is great for me too.. fine.... why is it paining you if Ronaldo fans call him GOAT?

He is goat in football world, same with Henry, iniesta, Lampard and the rest but comparing him to messi on fundamental football abilities is an insult to the game. Messi is the god of football.

Borntosmoke:
But u forgot to show us this?? Who is this man eenh.

I didn’t forget but since it’s a stat that don’t show football fundamental abilities I saw no need for it, same reason I didn’t post number of goals. Grabbing goals or assist is deceiving and become subjective to rate players and at the end blunders will be made, those types of argument are for football novice or kids who likes to argue trivially. Football fundamental abilities is what make footballers Demi god if not I will be saying Lampard is far better than iniesta because of stats so you see.

Jokerman:
Keep typing your trash compiled by clowns Barcelona and pessi fans

Goal scoring
Playmaking
Dribbling
Heading
Passing
Crossing
Leadership
Free kicks
Assist
Decisiveness


Use these attributes to compare these players... use all their careers, starting from when they were young till old age... both for Club and country... and let me see how you will rate them above CR7...

Foolish haters everywhere.

What Ronaldo played at early man utd, Madrid and Juve, apart from messi, which other players can play it??

Stop being emotional cr7 fan girls. If you don’t hate Messi and not a cr7 fan girl why would you think cr7 is greater than him when it is the opposite.

Borntosmoke:
Who is the most skillful and talented between ocoha , delima ronaldo and ronaldiho.

Ronaldiho and Messi who is the most skillful and talented

Both were similar in skills but De Lima is his father because he did first all what Ronaldinho displayed in their playing days. While De Lima did his skills with class and elegance ronaldinho was more of entertaining the crowed with excitement due to different position on the field of play.

andrewbaba44:
Chelsea is rich and we all saw what they purchased in the market recently

No be by who get money ,the koko be say you get eye for player?

Look at pep buying akanji and sergi Gomez for cheap making them look like class

Or more of other top coach have 100 percent backing from the owner and board to buy your preferred players without interfering. Pep and his boys from Spain are 100 in charge of signings with unlimited spending. The day pep sense any interference from the top on players to sell or sign he will quit, na him way be that. One of the reason Boehly sacked Tuchel is this same interference from owner on who to sign or sell, Boehly actually wanted cr7 but tuchel refused which was the genesis of their fall out. Pep won’t strive in such environment because he plays expensive and expansive football, in other words, he likes to get players to fit a role he think is better for his tactics whether the player is 100m pounds or 20 million he will get him so he need that luxury to really win.

BlueAngel444:
Koulibaly Can't run ?

The guy leaves his position often times, he lack placement and also complacent when with the ball.

Borntosmoke:
If I catch you eeenh, I will give us 5 puff of Collorado make your brain reset. Look at the nonsense you are typing. Halland and your stupid delima Ronaldo.

Goals he better pass halland and delima
Dribble he better pass halland and delima. Halland and delima should attempt 20 dribbles in a single match.
Freekick he better pass halland and delima
Positioning he better pass halland and delima
Pace he better pass halland and delima
Achievement he better pass halland and delima
Assist he better pass halland and delima
Shot he better pass halland and delima

The only thing delima have over ronaldo is skill and world cup.

We need to take you to a rehabilitation centre.

You ended up saying one thing I said cr7 is great at which is goals with most of the things you listed before your second paragraph, then you ignorantly accepted my point in your second to last paragraph that De Lima is more talented/skillful than CR7. Thank you for making my job easier.

Ask any OG around that know football they will tell you De Lima is more talented and gifted football wise than cr7, this is not nostalgia but fact. Cr7 longevity is due to hard work and perseverance while De Lima was plagued with injury.

Jokerman:
Can you list the things Messi, Delima, Pele etc can do, that Cristiano cannot do, and better?

Ronaldo is only quality in scoring goals with his legs and jumping high to score same goal. For example, messi scored 13 goals with his left leg only and cr7 scored 12 goals with his head, left and right legs who will win golden boot between the two? Messi so this is why messi has more golden boot than him which is the award for scoring. Now let’s go down to other abilities like playmaking, creativity and dribbling which messi is quality at and you and I know when mentioning playmakers cr7 will not be mention but messi would. Cr7 is not in top five creative player or dribbler.

First and foremost, Forget about order of arrangements of the images I want to show you below, but did you see cr7 there at all, because he is not great in these football fundamental abilities but Messi is in all. To tell you that aside scoring and assisting which are statistical Messi is great in fundamental football abilities . These are accumulative stats across the WEB.

TLona1:
Any good forward will tho so don't single only Havertz out.

Not any forward, attackers like Lukaku who lack technical and tactical ability to play top quality football won’t.

Kilishihunter:
You have started again, hope the other folks of your fanbase won't later see you denying this statements later?

Where is the lie in what I said about Nkunku and Werner, if he come to chelsea and didn’t perform for example how does that change my statement regarding the two. We are analyzing both players at the moment. You guys mostly mistake my analysis simply because I do get down with Raumdeuter due to his trolling take on football matters.

Ballzproblem2:
people think our new owners will behave like marina ,they have seen the stats and done their analysis , they're no fools , nkunku will cook

Yes that’s the essence of scouting players and not just looking at stat, same reason players like lukaku is seen as a top player because he can use his body to bully and score goals whereas he is lacking in football basics like ball control, tactical and technical awareness which top clubs need to be formidable. I’m glad cr7 is retiring soon so that his fan girls stop propagating goals only to rate players just to compare him with his superior Messi who is quality in other areas aside scoring. Cr7 fan girls are killing the game more when they limit it with this trivial take and most football scout fell for this in this past years.

Taguchi:
My God!

I was being sarcastic when I said he is better than Halaand technically both are good technically and tactically but one is in a good team and playing with a better tactical side. Also Halaand has more goals to his game but doesn’t change the fact Havertz will be beast too like Foden and Halaand in that city side and people like you will be praising him by now.

Taguchi:
My God!

Both are tactical and technical but Halaand has more to his game. Havertz will cook too if he is in that city squad, he will improve greatly like the rest in that city squad and people like you for Dey praise him by now. Football is a team sport and when your team don’t have a consistent tactics and your midfielders do side and back passes or hug the ball most of the time it affect progressive play and end product. Thiago Sylver is now our progressive creator since Jorg and kova are unfortunate with often progressive passes and quick transition of play.

TLona1:
Havertz will score in Man City but definitely not like the rate Haaland is scoring.

Only few players can.

Yes I agree Halaand has more scoring prowess but Havertz will definitely be good in that city squad and will be praised just like Foden and Halaand is my point.

Ballzproblem2:
the disrespect lol ,Werner can't dribble while running nkunku can ,8. goals in 12 matches

Nkunku can score goals and doesn’t miss glorious chances, he can dribble in tight spaces and creative with the ball at final third while Werner misses glorious chances, his legs are faster than his brain when with the ball and mostly can’t do anything in tight spaces. He got pace and agility though.

akwesenana:
Sorry, but what's the difference between tactical and technical?
(no offiensce)

To be in the right place at the right time by players is a tactical ability and it’s mostly the doing of the manager and the players around you making it happen while technicality is how a player meticulously execute skill with the ball. Halaand is technical too same with Havertz but Halaand is stronger and more precise.

TLona1:
DeBruyne is tactically better than Havertz.

At some point in time, he played as a false 9 for Man City (Where Havertz will most likely play if he was in City) but wasn't as prolific as Messi or Haaland.

Rest with your useless agenda.

KDB and Havertz are different players. If Foden can be scoring often what make you think Havertz will not be scoring too in that man city team. Havertz was scoring often too for his former club before coming to Chelsea. Our midfield are not creative with forward passes and it limit strikers often times. We all know the problem at Chelsea that we don’t have creative midfielders with forward passes. Thiago Sylver is the only player spotting attacking runs and making forward passes while Jorg and kova either make side and back passes or hug the ball unnecessarily. It is common sense.

Havertz10:
even pep know

Pep know na. It’s what I said yesterday people started catching feelings, i nor know why people nor like truth, mostly Barca fans, them too like nostalgia. If Havertz Dey that Man city team he will be scoring on every match day and would’ve improve more than he is now due to the players around him and also pep tactics. Chelsea instability with coach and tactics dey affect some players like Havertz which Halaand will struggle too if he came here. Everything is not nostalgia but common sense. Havertz is more technical than Halaand which pep like but Halaand is more tactical with play and stronger. It is that stability Boehly is working on by assuring Potter he will not be sacked even if he didn’t finish top 4 but of course we will finish top 4.

Ballzproblem2:
contract agreed, announcement soon

But transfer market don close why all these negotiations this time, make them nor go sanction us oo or the player won’t come again. Make Boehly take an easy. But one thing is sure Chelsea is in safe hand, Boehly consortium get money nor be small and they are ready to spend and turn chelsea into a super team. Zyech is gone, Pulisic will follow.

Same thing with Ronaldo but Ronaldo fan girls want us to believe he is in same level with messi because of being great in scoring only like Halaand. Messi do it all; dribbling, scoring and playmaking, he is quality in all these abilities. We already have Halaand that will do more than Ronaldo but we are not getting a messi-like player any time soon. Messi is the best player this sport have seen followed by Pele and then maradona. Ronaldo comes forth due to longevity which gave him more individual achievement than De Lima Ronaldo so I will put him fourth, otherwise De Lima is better than him talent wise.

Same thing with Ronaldo but Ronaldo fan girls want us to believe he is in same level with messi because of being great in scoring only like Halaand. Messi do it all; dribbling, scoring and playmaking, he is quality in all these abilities. We already have Halaand that will do more than Ronaldo but we are not getting a messi-like player any time soon. Messi is the best player this sport have seen followed by Pele and then maradona. Ronaldo comes forth due to longevity which gave him more individual achievement than De Lima Ronaldo so I will put him fourth, otherwise De Lima is better than him talent wise.