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Ibime:
Ake, Sterling, Zinchenko. . . .Chelsea starting to look like Man City B team. . . still it's an upgrade on some of the dross we have in our first team

Ake is the only problem there. Zincheko and Sterling are good

afrodoc2:
Hensbrain. Tell us another co.ck and bull story.

Ok, Pogba is Dele with showboating.

afrodoc2:
English is not the mumu’s first language.

Or so they say.

Afroc.ock template, that was autocorrect gone wrong

raumdeuter:
He doesnt have the tempu nor the cold face t play in the EPL

yeah T-pain in the epl.

andrewbaba44:
Louder

Let him know that coutinho found it easy in the epl than Laliga

Its not actually about the league but the team, except ETH did wonders and Pogba is no longer there.

Ellexy:
The guy doesn't have what?

Template. You will see for yourself. I criticized lukaku’s signing so I’m not biased in player’s assessment.

Bombblacks:
Trash.

That's how i was telling your comrade about Pogba that he is Dele with showboating you lots thought i was trolling.

TrebleChamp:
That dude is giving me VDB vibe, hope he doesn't turn out to be another huge waste of money if we sign him. I believe United can temp Leicester City with that fee for Ndidi, but Ten Hag want FDJ so the board have to sign him.

FDJ will even turn worse than VDB, that guy don’t have the template to play in epl.

Joezinho:
Sterling of all people. Make Chelsea run ooooo..

Sterling is good, I like his astute and aggressive play with the ball, he is ruthless and disturbing to opponent’s defense. The fact that pep is letting him go doesn’t mean he is not good, I mean pep has let go of players like Eto, Yaya, Ibra, in the past. He has abundance of quality attackers in his hands so letting go of some is normal, he is enjoying luxury. It will be a shame if he doesn’t win ucl with a city.

Unlimited22:
Him own good sef, he was born in Uzbekistan in the former USSR.

If you want to see the godfathers of age cheating, check out the late Yemi Tella and his U17 world cup winners of 2007. Macauley Chrisantus, Yakubu Alfa and Kabiru Akinsola them.

Mehn that team need to be jailed. . Kroos and De Gea be like Alfa first son age mate for field. Those men played against teenagers in that tournament.

timbros:
Lol this this CAF TOTT in 1994. What are you saying?

Jodera you have been bursted.

donstan18:
Guy wetin be this?

Can’t you see you’re finding difficult to make case for Oliseh here?

So if asked about Gerard and Rooney, na these things you go pull out? What do you people gain running from the truth? Just look at what you’re listing?

Which one be “Best sprinter”?

E come be like say na Michael Phelps stats I Dey read.

donstan18:
Just compare prime Hazard and Chukuwueze, you’ll see Assnal fans making case for Chukwueze that he’s better.

I’ve never see anti-Chelsea fans as bitter over Chelsea matters as Assnal fans.

Still pains them that we’ve won UCL twice when they’ve won none? Or could it be because most of their players that joined Chelsea excelled and achieved a lot? Who knows.

After today, observe their opinions here whenever Chelsea players start getting compared to other players.

They are still in that early 2000s euphoria of Arsenal is better than Chelsea so anything from Chelsea is inferior whether good or not but reality have left them behind.

BlueMann:
Chelsea will submit a new proposal for Raheem Sterling as they're already working on it. Tuchel wants him and personal terms have been already discussed. �� #CFC

Negotiations with City were led by Marina Granovskaia - she now left the club, Boehly is preparing the new bid.

- Fabrizio Romano

We will cook next week.

Ibime:
You and I know that's a senior man thing and Mikel was not even better than Sunday Mba, Victor Moses and co in that tournament and did nothing in club football that year either except ride bench

Hmmm senior man Kesh.

Ibime:
Do you know that Okocha himself was not a guaranteed starting player and only started 3 games in AFCON and 1 game in World Cup? How will Mikel enter a 4-4-2 team that Okocha cannot enter with confidence. Mind you, the original question is which DM will you pick, and in a 4-4-2 team with only one DM, and sometimes no traditional CM (SiaSia comes back to play CM), Mikel will never smell starting line-up. Nobody will be dropping Amokachi or Yekini to play a 3 man midfield. I will leave Raumdeuter to tell you more about how Nigeria was doing well in World Cup till Okocha was given shirt for Italy match.

It depends on the era, if it where to be old days Oliseh will start, in this modern day of football Mikel will start. It’s not possible for any super eagles coach to bench Mikel the way he broke out. Mikel star was just like Kanu then in the team.

Ibime:
The point is to show that Mikel placing 2nd in Africa POTY was complete fugazi.

Mikel won nations cup and was in team of the tournament, why can’t he come second in player of the year award holding in African soil.

Jodera:
Lol, so you know this but you want people to bring afcon ToTT that wasn't in existence in Oliseh days to elevate Mikel because he was privileged such award was in his time. You're bringing afcon win when abacha banned Nigeria from participating in afcon during Oliseh days after he still won the 94 nation's cup.

See, you guys logic is simple and that's what I'm following. If you feel strapping the seatbelt in bench and winning laurels is what makes you greater than those whose abilities shines through on the field of play, then, you should agree that...

Pedro >>>>>> Xavi and iniesta

First and foremost I didn’t tell you to bring Oliseh team of the tournament award I only said Mikel made team of the tournament because Ibime was trying to say he was a carry along in midfield by Onazi and Mba.

Secondly, no correlation in what you just said because Mikel participated and won same nations cup Oliseh won. Again Xavi and Iniesta never played in epl, they played in la liga which is equivalent.

andrewbaba44:
Na only that year una wan use against mikel ?

Do you want to see how Olise was chopping bench at the 2001-2002 season at Dortmund ,where is started only 11 league games ,na this player better pass mikel in what aspect ?

What about 2002-2003 season where Olise was not making match day squad in numerous occasions before he was shipped to an ekuke Bochum on Loan ,na this player better pass mikel ?

Failed at juventus and not a regular at BVB ?

Man was sacked by Dortmund because of poor performance and fighting with a teammate

Nor mind them. They are even saying Mikel will not start in that super eagles team. Lol. Oliseh DM, Mikel CM, Okocha CAM will dominate. Not because he can not play DM or CAM but because he is a utility midfielder.

Jodera:
Show me Xavi and iniesta EPL, Carling and Europa?

If not
Pedro>>>Xavi and iniesta (Amokachi and donst.an18)

Did Xavi and iniesta play in epl why would I show you what they didn’t participate in. The way Una Dey reason football for this board at times dey shocking. La liga is equivalent to epl and they won it number of times.

andrewbaba44:
Olise won the afcon with a more talented super eagles team and we no go hear word ?

Mikel won the afcon with the likes of Sunday mba ,Juwon oshaniwa,oboabona who are all naija league based players and mixed with enyeama musa emenike and co

As in, I tire for Ibime. Mikel is slow and was in chelsea because of Emenalo and his wife who is a Ukrainian. Lol. Mikel started ucl final against Bayern and won is not talked about, started FA cup final against Man U and won is nothing to Ibime, he was super eagles best player in fifa confederation cup by creating a lot of chances which was wasted unlike Oliseh that had Yekini, Amokachi, Siasia, Kanu, Amunike, Finidi and ikpeba in front of him. Make we Dey fear God for this board. Today na Sunday.

Jodera:
fa fa fa..... Foul.


This is the template you and Amokachi is following and that's what you strictly followed.

Pedro is the greatest Spaniard to ever play same way Mikel is the greatest Nigerian to ever play


According to Amokachi and donstan18

Pedro>>>>>> Xavi and iniesta
Kovacic>>>>> modric

Context matters here. Iniesta and Xavi won everything Pedro has as well so the number of times they were won doesn’t matter anymore in comparison, whereas, Oliseh had no ucl or Europa cup. Ibime keep talking of his team achievement forgetting that the super eagles he played were more talented compared to the one Mikel played alongside.

Ibime:
Oliseh and Finidi started a protest against NFF prior to 2002 World Cup for unpaid bonuses hence were chased from the team for scrubs like Justice Christopher, Femi Opabunmi and the likes. NFF politics.

Oliseh as an Eagles player never once failed to reach AFCON final, won the Olympics, and put up our best showings at the World Cup. If not for CAF sanctions in 1996 and 1998, I'm sure he would have taken those two tournaments.

Slowbie was a disgrace for Super Eagles, getting overrun and bullied every tournament by every Mali, Ghana and co, failing to even qualify for AFCON twice and the world cup twice. They had to bring in real DM legs in Onazi and running legs in Sunday Mba for Super Eagles midfield to look competitive in 2013.

Clubwise Oliseh did his thing at Cologne, Ajax and Dortmund during a time when Africans get few chances. Obi was a perennial bench warmer in Chelsea being protected by Emenalo and having good relationships with Roman through his wife's father. Roman used to conduct business meetings in Obis house sef. Same Obi was chased and relegated from China, chased from Middlesborough, Trabzonspor and Stoke. He should thank God for political favour that kept him in Chelsea through his brother Emenalo and his Russian wife connection.

Okay you won, Oliseh was the better player.

Ibime:
Go and check his assists in 1994 AFCON. Watch these two short videos below. Niggas was Pirlo for Nigeria before we knew that DM supposed to be dropping long balls for the no9.

Oliseh can control midfield here, you will wonder why he was tagged as a DM.

Mikel Obi. Spits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWLiQ4_n2U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXxsP2GNc3k

Like I said every of your play turn beautiful when you have quality team mates. Imagine Mikel playing alongside this super eagles squad.
Here is Mikel highlight vs the then almighty Spain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17SGuhMglc

Ibime:
8 of those years on the bench while his red cap brother Emenalo was feeding him new contracts.

Lol. As per say na Emenalo get Chelsea.

Ibime:
Mikel Slowbie the perennial bench player for Chelsea can never be compared to Oliseh. He was inept as a DM, constantly overrun, escorting players upandan until Onazi came to do the job for him. Mikel success in 2012 UCL was under extreme bus parking. Anything involving running, just forget Slowbie. That's why he disgraced Chelsea the next season. No let bus parking deceive you. Oliseh can never be his mate in DM position

Ok. And he played for Chelsea for 10 years. Remind me Oliseh record individually.

MorataFC:
How? pls expatiate

Mikel was much more superior among his peers when we participated in fifa confederation cup 2009 or so. He carried super eagles for years unlike Oliseh that played with good players at their peak then.

Jodera:
What is the proof that he's good in attacking 3rd?

U-20 shebi?

How many goals and assist again did he have in Chelsea in his dozen years after especially after Mou departure?

He played DM for Chelsea, is it goal we use in rating DM now. Na wa. How many goals makelele scored for Chelsea, will you now say Oliseh was better than makelele?
Did you watch fifa confederation cup when Mikel was the only outstanding footballer we had against top sides.
Oliseh played with best super eagles team at their peak, Mikel was the one carrying his set, he was the star man in every tournament.

Jodera:
Please who Oliseh from super eagles?

Ibime said Mikel was chased from DM by Onazi which is false. Mikel was a dynamic midfield, ie he can play DM, CM and attacking midfielder unlike Oliseh. Mikel was the only Nigeria footballer that played professionally in fifa confederation cup.

MorataFC:
Oliseh is far better than Mikel as a DM, Mikel lacks confidence going forward as a Chelsea player but if it Nigeria game, he will be the one that want to play all the corners, all the free kicks even pks self but as a Chelsea player he hardly cross the center line that's why he had just only one goal in over 240 epl matches, well as Jodera has said that's my choice I will pick Oliseh over him again and again

Mikel was the better footballer and would suit current modern DM than Oliseh.

Jodera:
Most people are clouded with recency bias and CV of Mikel's u-20. Person wey with all him talent I felt he just used only 10% in his career

The only thing Mikel is just better than Oliseh is trophies. Let's even come naija. What was the spectacular thing he even dis in naija. I remember how he was called Mikel "Slow-bie" in 2014 world cup and 2013 afcon naim I dey hear say him be boss for naija?

Just dey carry Chelsea CV dey deceive guys

Mikel won afcon for naija and was in team of the tournament, was second best player after Messi at the under 20 wc. The fact that Mou made him play conservative football for Chelsea doesn’t mean he wasn’t good in attacking third.Mikel Dominated his last qualifiers for super eagles before he retired. I’m not sure you even watch super eagles game after 2002 wc.

Ibime:
Go and seek pennance for this blasphemy

They had to chase Mikel out of DM with Onazi and bring Sunday Mba to hustle for the snail before Super Eagles midfield could even look sensible and tough to play against

Can Oliseh even make it in that Chelsea squad. Who chased Oliseh from super eagles. Na that goal against Spain still Dey everybody memory.