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andrewbaba44:
Pedro become a regular at Barca as a starter on the flanks and not a super sub oga so stop capping ,Pedro that was starting at champions league final na him be super sub ,he was only behind Henry for one season

Only Arnold and Robertson you could mention at Liverpool,the rest na expensive players

Marcos was one of the best player in the bundesliga before he joined Dortmund,klopp didn’t improve him

How many players has pep made from nothing to fifa world eleven? Reus is from dortmund academy, he was sold then. Klopp made him known and put him on a world stage.

andrewbaba44:
It’s guardiola fault that he only manages top teams

Pep is corny and running from challenging jobs, looking for a well financed team with great quality to coach. Mou rejected real madrid twice before they went for ancelotti, he prefers to do great things with the under dogs.
https://dailypost.ng/2021/06/03/mourinho-rejected-real-madrid-return-before-ancelottis-reappointment-report/
https://romapress.net/mourinho-rejected-two-approaches-from-real-madrid-who-eventually-reappoint-ancelotti/#:~:text=Mourinho%20rejected%20two%20approaches%20from%20Real%20Madri

Godx:
So why can't he bring unknown like his Dortmund days and make quality at Liverpool. Why did he need to spend world record amounts for goalkeeper and defender when he could have brought unknowns from nowhere and made quality since he is a magician.

He did already with Trent and Robertson, these two have made fifa world eleven. Tell me any player pep have made from unknown that made fifa 11.

andrewbaba44:
Trash as usual ,so any player purchase for 50 million is not unknown ? It’s nit about being popular ,it’s about how that player was performing

Just as Keita Fabinho jota vvd Allison where all unknown with their huge transfer fee

Bisquets carry along ? Pedro a super sub ,same player that sent Henry packing from Barca

Henry was old. Pedro was mostly super sub for barca. Those players you mentioned were known, fab just did wonders with monaco before he was signed. Alnord, robertson, gudogan, reus, lewy, hummels, etc are the true unknown players before Klopp got hold of them. Stones was known at everton that chelsea even bid for him but decided to end up with man city.

andrewbaba44:
Ranieri prooved him self at Leicester city with unknown players by winning the epl ,we should easily say ranieri is better than klopp

Mou won ucl with Porto bro.

[quote author=Godx post=113859113][/quote]Im talking from his Dortmund days. Porto with mou. When will pep do extraordinary for a club with strict transfer policy.

Mou proved himself with Porto with unknown players. The people that pep built neither starter or carry along. The core players in his team where established, whereas Klopp used unknown players at Dortmund.

Ebukacute:
Always right.. All the things he said back then about Pogba, Shaw, martial, man utd board and the rest were all true.

Una eyes don clear now. When we told you guys Pogba is not that player guys think he is you thought I was trolling.

andrewbaba44:
Busquets ,Pedro ,foden ,Joshua kimmich ,Pique ,John stones


Sterling was an endless chicken at Liverpool with only pace and some flashes ,pep made sterling a 20 goal a season player

Bousquet was a carry along, Pedro, Foden are super sub, Joshua Kim much? Pique? Stones that was bought for 50m was unknown. Klopp got unknown players from nowhere and made them quality footballers you are talking of players already known and was signed for outrageor fee.

andrewbaba44:
Nobody is saying Nunez will flop

Liverpool paid 100 million for an unproven player and you want us to keep quiet ? If na pep do such now the whole media go Dey troll am but as na Liverpool e Dey normal and make we accept am

Liverpool scouted Portugal and paid lesser fee for Luis diaz and we hailed klopp ,so maybe we should praise klopp and Liverpool for overpaying for a striker in that same Portugal ?

That’s the respect you get when you have riven yourself with unknown players. Klopp gathered mostly unknown players at Dortmund to reach ucl final and made most of them quality players that result to top clubs tapping almost all of them. Came to liverpool, sold their top player to get a CB and goalkeeper, whereas somebody Dey add Gudogan, Rodri and Sylva to KDB, Fernandinho.

donstan18:
Lol. Name one world class player Pep signed for City aside Halland and Mahrez.

You mean quality players? You are over stretching world class. Almost all the players he signed are quality, reason they didn’t come for peanut like alnord and Trent for liverpool.

Taguchi:
you've still not answered my question sir, you're dribbling just like hensben; you taught him well

whatever Pep did in Bayern is of little concern to me and whatever opinion that Dayo or A40 have of Pep is irrelevant to my question

the question still remains

"do you agree that Carlo performed better than Pep in Bayern?" Yes or No

If yes, how so?

simple

I already answered your question. Ancelotti did better than him against ucl top side, even with one man down. Pep disgraced Bayern in the hands of barca and Real Madrid. Bayern liga is not success because even Samson siasia will win that trophy with Bayern.

Trevor012:
hensben say na profits lmao

And you believe this.

Actman05:
Lol Pep did not improve Torres but it was under him he entered national team, Guardiola let Torres leave because he said he wanted to leave same with Eric Garcia. Pep doesn't improve players but you forget Foden. I'm sure if you were offered Sterling before Pep signed him you would have refused.

Name an unknown player pep has built to quality level. Foden is still potential. By the way, after managing for years you can only mention Foden if yesterday. Sterling was already good and known at Liverpool, he was signed for 50m pounds by man city. Torres rode on big club tax to get a call up, he is not even a quality player, just there.

donstan18:
Lol. Name one world class player Pep signed for City aside Halland and Mahrez.

Pep signed quality players doing well already in their previous club, whereas, Klopp have raised unknown players to be world class/quality; Gudogan, Lewandowski, Trent, Robertson, etc. these players where either sign for peanut or free transfer due to they were unknown before gotten to Klopp. I don’t think pep has a twenty million signing that is world class, he even sold players like Nolito, Bravo, Ferran Torres after buying them because he couldn’t improve them. Can you tell me one player that was unknown that pep built to quality level like Klopp?

lordfalcao:
5M loan fee from inter. Are we a joke to this people

Doesnt matter, Abra wrote off our debt and we are starting a new era with a new owner so it is a profit technically. Anyhow anyhow Lukaku should just go.

Taguchi:
baba you said ancelotti performed better than Pep at Bayern oya prove it with evidence and you're writing long epistle

oga what did anceloti achieve in bayern in his first or second season that is better than what pep did? mind you Pep handed over to Ancelotti directly

..just give me proof like stats, trophies, records anything if you cant answer this then nigga you have no case

all this evasive shalaye is unnecessary really

Im talking of their ucl achievement not Bayern liga achievement, eve samson siasia will win every local trophies as a Bayern coach. Pep was humiliated in Europe by the big goons Ancelotti wasn’t.

AnfieldFan:
Seems this whole thread is in agreement Nunez will flop badly...
Also, he's a one season wonder..

Time will tell..

With Klopp that can never happen. Klopp is a builder while pep only do finishing touch with already built house which any top manager can do at that stage of the house.

Pep is a conformist because of that he needs luxury spending and high profile players to excel with that tactics, whereas the original owner of that tactics didn’t need high profile players to excel. Barca as a team have been average since those old legs retired but they were still winning la liga because of the genius of Messi.

Taguchi:
Nigga dey dribble himself

just the same way hensben told us that Ancelotti did better than pep in Bayern

been waiting for him to come and explain but him don disappear

Pep was always disgraced when he meet the big clubs in ucl, whereas Ancelotti wasn’t. Ancelotti is better than Pep. Pep is a luxury manager, he always want to spend and spend to stay competitive. After failing to win ucl for three years at Bayern, they started spending prudently and going for players that fit Bayern profile, I.e, brute and tenacity over pep’s type of players hence their fall out. Pep moved Martinez who was one of the best CDM under Hykes to CB, same thing he wanted to do with Yaya Toure at Barca, the guy had run which started their fracas. He likes to use soft CDM with 100 passes which always bite him against big teams, thanks to Messi for his two ucl.

dumininu01:
A manager should be judged by his success, success is paramount to trophies, entertainment and consistency over the years. Both fulfill these, I refuse to label one better over the another as a matter of fact

If I were the owner of a club and I've to sign up a manager, I'll probably sign Klopp, he has more personality, works on a lower budget than pep, brings more entertainment but less trophies.

Klopp was beaten by pep in Germany but only because pep bought his players, I would rate Klopp higher when it comes to working with young lads and nurturing talent, pep needs a mature elite team but then again that's how you win trophies

This is exactly what I am saying too. I’m not saying pep is a bad coach but he is not a genius, he is overrated by barca and his fans. Football lovers are skeptical about his achievement when compared to his peers due to the teams and squad he won with.

Taguchi:
"'Conte came to spurs did well without breaking the bank '" but when he is given bank to break now and he flops we will start hearing how others are breaking GT bank, Access bank, bank PHB and CBN while conte was left with Kolo box to break.

you're seriously defending pochetino that added Ramos, Donaruma, Hakimi and the same Messi that gave Guardiola his UCLs to a UCL finalist that already has neymar, Mbappe, di maria, Icardi and the same marco verati that carried Jorginho..but you keep singing "semi final City upandan"

My points is that every coach wants to be a cheque book manager, every single coach wants to point and kill, but while some make great returns after being given the cheque book, others waste it, get sacked, no longer trusted to deliver consistently by big cheque-book clubs and then get signed by average clubs and we start hearing tales of how they "decided" to challenge themselves by taking an "underdog" Job

No one ever rate Poch to be an A list coach so he was never in the discussion, I’m only saying he has done well with Southampton and Tottenham In the past. Most top coaches will do well with excess money and quality team, e.g, Ancelotti just won ucl, la liga and super cup in his first season with Real Madrid. With the way city is spending, squad depth pep ought to have win ucl by now, he coached Bayern formidable squad that Hykes and Flick won ucl with and couldn’t win. Ancelotti performed better than him in Ucl at Bayern.

Taguchi:
every body is poor except City

the same underdog coach i was told would do wonders when he gets a world-class team and resources is about to get sacked by PSG

them think say everybody wey fit manage POS business very well fit manage bank; there are levels to this shiit

the same underdog format moyes scammed united with, na him hesben go dey sing upandan

Conte have won and done well in every league. Or you are saying Chelsea, Juventus are not big clubs compared to man city. The issue here is not the name of the club but acquisition of players, formidable team and squad depth which pep has enjoyed in his career so far. Poch has done well so far in his managerial career due to the strength of the team he has coached so far. If pep should go to this current psg team he will need a lot of signings and free many players before he can compete in ucl. Pep left barca 11 years ago and yet to win ucl after coaching Bayern who were champions before and after him. Came to a semi final man city, spent 300m in his first and went trophyless. Had to sign and sign and still signing to stay competitive “locally”. Conte came to Tottenham, finish 4th without breaking the bank. I remember how Raumdeuter and co used to call Mou a cheque book manager but the story don change since their favorite became more than a cheque book manager. He is now defending rubbish by saying making top 4 and going trophyless is an achievement for pep after spending 300m

andrewbaba44:
Conte fan boys trying to defend him before the start of next season ,they are all afraid

E nor go pass you wey dey like Raumdeuter anyhow reasoning just to defend overrated pep.

raumdeuter:
Why not? If Messi is free, he still has the option to choose where he wants to play and which club will meet his football goals. If Brighton meet his goals then why wont he? If Brighton and PSG offer same money to Messi where do you think he will go?

If Ronaldo can go to Man Utd, why cant Messi go to Brighton? Whats the difference

See mumu talk. Who even like this post sef.

Leyqute:
Genuine Interest FC

Your club has no pull, mostly when it comes to foreign players. Now that you are not in ucl it will be difficult for top players to come your club except you are ready to pay heavily both in transfer fee and weekly wages.

BlueMann:
I don't think Deschamps will last beyond Qatar. Imagine calling up Rabiot, Kamara, Guendouzi ahead of Camavinga.

Same with Fernando Santos by the way.

Camavinga is very good, better than the rest except Kante. Proper box to box midfielder.

Chelsea still haven’t fix the major problem in that team which is CDM. Jorginho can neither drive the ball forward properly for quick transitional play nor make often long passes. I’m still skeptical about Rice. Tuchel is a technical and tactical type of a coach so his players have to meet that criteria. This is why Lukaku failed, he is technically average and slow in intelligent movement in opponent’s box. Go back to Jorginho, he is one of the reason Tuchel is struggling with consistency.

Ibime:
Why are we talking of Pulisuc making way and not Odoi and Ziyech? Let's start with the weakest links first.

Dembele for Zyech. Odoi can go on loan, sign either Sterling or Nkunku.

donstan18:
FG no dey for Tinubu

Those Northern cabals in APC no dey for him.

Who told you that. Northern APC governor are solidly behind Tinubu, they clamored for southern candidacy.

donstan18:
Aside South Western Region, Atiku will floor Tinubu anywhere anyday in Nigeria.

Kastina, Kaduna and Kano alone will give him the win.

Apc governors are in that state and they are solidly behind Tinubu, how will Atiku win. By political calculation Tinubu is your next president.

afrodoc2:
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All within 18 hours.

Either the man of God is confused or he is using a gutter water-filled calabash.

I was gesticulating initially. But one thing is sure, Apc presidential flag bearer will come from south south not south west.