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popizaino:
It is not my work because I don't believe there in this messi, this messi that, since it's your point do that and while you at it you should also tell us why messi is not winning pochettino the ucl.

Messi done all that already in his peak. When will pep make another player ballon d”or candidate after 10 years of leaving barca. Messi is even current holder without pep.

“When I won six titles in a row in Barcelona and won trebles, I never felt that. I won because I had extraordinary players at big clubs.

“There are incredible managers, they don't have these players, they don't have these big clubs. I'm a good manager but not the best.

Currently, Tuchel is the best coach in the world according to football governing body.

Pep’s success is either tied to messi and co or the financial strength and squad depth whereas, mou and other top coaches won as under dog which made their win admirable.

Neymar1095:
Mahrez is just an example. My point is until Messi wins trophies with an underdog he still remains a fraud who can only do it with Billion dollar teams. Like you said what is special in winning trophies with super teams and billion dollar squad. Until then Mahrez Leicester career trump's everything Messi has done in his career.

Mahrez career triumph Cr7, Zidane, and all the great players if it is so. Give yourself knock.

This is from the horses mouth or you know more than him

“When I won six titles in a row in Barcelona and won trebles, I never felt that. I won because I had extraordinary players at big clubs.

“There are incredible managers, they don't have these players, they don't have these big clubs. I'm a good manager but not the best.

Currently, Tuchel is the best coach in the world according to football governing body.

Pep’s success is either tied to messi and co or the financial strength and squad depth whereas, mou and other top coaches won as under dog which made their win admirable.

Neymar1095:
Exactly hensben. Messi success is tied to playing with a billion dollar squad filled with world class players and the best teams in the world. Untill Messi wins with an underdog like Mahrez did with Leicester he remains a fraud. Nice to see you are in agreement.

Mahrez and Messi have never been mentioned in same sentence in terms of been great anywhere, whereas, pep is been compared here with great coaches. Nobody here will even support your claim because people have brain. But people here debating pep vs Klopp or top coach vs top coach because it’s reasonable

You can’t cry more than the bereaved

“When I won six titles in a row in Barcelona and won trebles, I never felt that. I won because I had extraordinary players at big clubs.

“There are incredible managers, they don't have these players, they don't have these big clubs. I'm a good manager but not the best.

Currently, Tuchel is the best coach in the world according to football governing body.

Pep’s success is either tied to messi and co or the financial strength and squad depth whereas, mou and other top coaches won as under dog which made their win admirable.

Jokerman:


Tell me any other player who has done this

....

Everything is centered around goals, he is a good goal scorer but messi is the better player. Even at that, messi has more golden boot and match per goal ratio.

Rest.

raumdeuter:
He has been in La Liga for 3yrs, He was not injured for 3yrs. Abi this is another Belotti that has been relapsing since 2017

He has been subsequent injury since he moved there.

Neymar1095:
Exactly. What's special in winning trophies playing for a billion dollar team and with world class players . Until Messi Carry a team with Leicester status to win trophies he remains a fraud who can only do it surrounded by world class players unlike Mahrez.

You can’t cry more than the bereaved
“When I won six titles in a row in Barcelona and won trebles, I never felt that. I won because I had extraordinary players at big clubs.

“There are incredible managers, they don't have these players, they don't have these big clubs. I'm a good manager but not the best.

Currently, Tuchel is the best coach in the world according to football governing body.

Pep’s success is either tied to messi and co or the financial strength and squad depth whereas, mou and other top coaches won as under dog which made their win admirable.

raumdeuter:
Hazard is now in la liga, His team is dominating why is he not doing the same goals and assist in the less competitive La liga for the past 3 seasons

Because he is injured.

raumdeuter:
I thought goals and assists do not matter, You are the same one that will say Hazard doesnt need to score or assist yet using goals and assists to rate Mesi

Not that goals and assist don’t matter but they are secondary to me when analyzing players. You can not be using Hazard who is expected to act as messi and Cr7 for Chelsea with Neymar that feed off messi in less competitive league. Epl is more competitive and hard compared to la liga. Barca as a team was better than chelsea then, meanwhile messi was the most talented player in the team(his individual awards proved this).

Neymar1095:
Messi won by playing with billion dollar teams and world class players. Messi has never won anything in his career as an underdog unlike Mahrez. Until Messi carry a team like Leicester to win a trophy then he remains a fraud who can only do it with world class teammates and billion dollar teams. Until then Mahrez Leicester career is greater than Messi Barca career.

Messi played with quality players who they mostly grew up in same academic. Pep and Enrique benefited from their superior talent and messi was the most superior talent in the group by leading in goals, assist and individual awards.

Stop crying.

Neymar1095:
Messi should do what Mahrez did with Leicester just once before we even start taking him serious. Messi has never won with underdogs always playing for the biggest clubs and country flanked by billion dollar players. I would like to see Messi go to a smaller team and carry them a win any trophy and award so until then Mahrez Leicester Career is greater than Messi Barcelona career.

Messi won by leading in goals and assist plus individual awards. Messi won by being the best player for Argentina.

Neymar1095:
Mahrez won PFA player of the season so this statement is already nonsense. Mahrez lead an underdog to win the league title while Messi has always been spoonfed playing with billion dollars squad all his career. So yes Mahrez achievement with Leicester trumps everything Messi has ever done. I would like Messi to carry an underdog to win a trophy until then his just a fraud.

When Kante left why did Mahrez not win epl again with Leicester. Messi won ucl with or without pep and was the key man, stats and individual awards proved this, he led both in assist and goals, proper team player.

This is the exact word from Pep because he know better;

“When I won six titles in a row in Barcelona and won trebles, I never felt that. I won because I had extraordinary players at big clubs.

“There are incredible managers, they don't have these players, they don't have these big clubs. I'm a good manager but not the best.

Currently, Tuchel is the best coach in the world according to football governing body.

Pep’s success is either tied to messi and co or the financial strength and squad depth whereas, mou and other top coaches won as under dog which made their win admirable.

Joezinho:
Fvcking braindead dumb fvck. Get a life you piece of sackshiit.

Bast ard. Og un kee you.

jpmoriarti:
Winning 7 trophies in 3 years is a definition of failure for you.

Continue paltering

With or without pep Bayern will still win those trophies. Bayern won ucl before and after pep by Hykes and flicks so pep is not all that that you guys want us to believe. Pep didn’t even make ucl final while he was there.

You nor get truth for mouth sorry.

Neymar1095:
Exactly same way Mahrez leading Leicester to win the premier league is bigger than any and everything Messi had done in his career.

We are talking European/ucl here bruv. Btw, Mahrez was just part of the team, where will you put Kante in that triumph.

This is the exact word from Pep because he know better
“When I won six titles in a row in Barcelona and won trebles, I never felt that. I won because I had extraordinary players at big clubs.

“There are incredible managers, they don't have these players, they don't have these big clubs. I'm a good manager but not the best.

“Give me a team that is not like Manchester City, I am not going to win.”

donstan18:
Why won’t oil block clubs choose Klopp?

They can still choose him but I’m exempting them for obvious reason.

Most clubs not operating on oil blocks will choose Klopp ahead of pep for economic reasons. If you know you know.

andrewbaba44:
So pep doesn’t have the underdog story when he took over Barca first team from being a Barca B coach

Keep clowning

He took over a super star team led by messi and won with them, same thing Enrique did too so what’s special there. Mou took over fc Porto from winning europa league to winning ucl with them. Pep is not even the current best coach in the world, Tuchel is so why the noise.

Keep being a m u g u

andrewbaba44:
At least the people that like that post don’t have hens brain like yours .

But he is above his peers ,or tell me which of his peers are above him

Clown

He is not above his peers too. Other managers have under dog story which made their win beautiful and admiring by football lovers, whereas, pep’s win is mostly tied to messi and co or the financial strength and squad depth.

M u g u.

50d33q:
Grow up dude

Grow up too.

jpmoriarti:
That's what hesben and co wants us to believe.

It is the Nigerian mentality that imagines that someone who works as labourer carrying blocks, in a working site works harder than a tech guy working from home.

Mou is coaching in Roma simply because no big club wants him anymore. You have to be good to be desired by big clubs.

How can man city or Madrid want mou at the time when pep and Zidane are/were there.

Was pep reign at Bayern a success or failure? Make I see if you get truth for mouth.

airmark:
We been knew, but Popizaino and other Fraudiola's assslickers thought he is the best and made Messi.

Fraudiola with Messi = 2 UCLs

Fraudiola with over 1bn but without Messi = No UCL

Messi without Fraudiola = 2 UCLs

They are making it look like it is only here we are saying this when football world are aware of this fact. Its not a coincidence that Pep’s success is tied to messi and co or the financial strength and depth of his team, whereas other great managers like Klopp, mou, Ancelotti have under dog story behind their success which make their win beautiful.

andrewbaba44:
Hypocrites

Guardiola is not a good coach because he doesn’t jump from one average teams to another like your faves

I am sure mourinho had an offer from mancity and Madrid but he picked Roma because he have something to prove

Maybe Ancelotti should have stayed at Everton and use them to win the epl ,Baba see Real Madrid he japa go there

You guys can keep being deluded and deceiving yourself for all I care ,no be today una Dey bring this kind agenda

You and the people that liked this post need a brain. No one said pep is not a good coach but when you try to eulogize him above his peers who are equally doing great with limited budget is what is not tolerated here.

50d33q:
What manners of fuckery is this
Do we need to be rating every stupid comments you posted here

So you wan come beat me

Joezinho:
"..In my club page.." you sound so dumb right now hairsbrain ...

Did you programme this thread into nairaland's data base? Are you a stakeholder on this forum? Enough of the stvpid display of territorial defense like red necked agama lizard.. Don't you comment on other threads?

Behaving like he owns this thread. Baba say na "..in my club's page..". Who know you?

I’m known here in case you don’t know.

M u g u

jpmoriarti:
You can sit behind your keyboard and type whatever makes you happy.

If you were Pep and presented with projects from City, Chelsea and Manutd. Which one will you choose? The one that will give you the biggest headache? So that you prove what?

No one can rescue a club with bad project etc. A smart coach will not go there, to be burnt alongside a self-destructive club.

This is why Pep will always be the biggest manager ever. Will always be remembered as so. He is quite selective. Not up for any job just for the sake of it.

Ancellloti can hop from Everton to Napoli to Bayern to Chelsea to Madrid in 3 years because he needs a goddam job. He is always sacked and always has to get the next available job no matter the club because he is always in the market looking for job, after yet another sack.

Pep does not need to prove anything to anyone. He has won all there is to win in club football. Won them multiple times even.

His methods are known and there are quite a few club that can fulfil that requirement. The goal is to find a conducive environment where your work will be given time to evolve and eventually appreciated by all.

Pep and Barca and City are a match made in heaven. If not for Barca who started destroying itself, Pep would have marked a glorious decade there.

So when things gone bad it is the club that is self destructive and not as a result of pep’s tactics exposed like in his Bayern days that he had to run.

You are saying basics there when you say pep has nothing to prove because same words is applicable to Ancelotti, mou, Klopp.

Ancelotti can hop on any job because he is been real and not acting cunning and smart in order not to be exposed tactical wise.

Like I said, all these coaches I mentioned above are winners like pep and they did so with under dog story which made their win beautiful compared to pep who his success is mostly attributed to either messi and co or the strength and finance of the team.

Joezinho:
I never quoted you and you are saying I am not minding my biz. Funny.

I can quote you because you are in my club page trying to guilt trip my fellow fan and I know it’s agenda of “they were making mouth that they will beat Real Madrid” in case we don’t go through later tonight you are trying to push.

Joezinho:
You don start. After the heavy pounding by Madrid today, you'll come here to start typing trash about tuchel..

Is anything wrong if a fan is optimistic about his club. It doesn’t mean he is undermining Real Madrid, he is just been optimistic which is normal as a fan. You are the one not minding your business here.

jpmoriarti:
Do you imagine it is just anyhow coach that a luxury and formidable team with quality players are entrusted upon?

Where were those other coaches when Guardiola was been considered for this plum job? Being considered to coach a luxury and formidable team shows the luxurious and formidable pedigree of the man himself.

And he keeps showing it. Taking a luxury and formidable team and make them even more luxurious and formidable is no mean feat.

There is no telling how these other good coaches would have fared if they had the opportunity to coach a luxury and formidable team.

How about Hykes that won everything for Bayern and left a good team for pep to make them worse in ucl, is that what you call progress. He had extraordinary players like messi and co at barca and had unlimited funds to spend in a semi final team parading KDB, Aguero, Fernandinho, Kompany. Pep rejected Chelsea and Man U job and was waiting for the next team with excess money and squad to coach, whereas, because coaches like Conte, Klopp, Tuchel, Ancelotti and Mou accept any risky job with troublesome management you term them not at pep level. Pep is just acting cunning and smart in his managerial appointment doesn’t mean he is better than Ancelotti who chose to go to Everton at a point. Before Chelsea got Conte pep said he will need ten new players(that’s overhauling) before he can compete if he is to move there, but Conte came and won epl and FA cup with Moses and Alonso as WB. If anything Klopp should be the one praised or eulogized here because he can turn an unknown or not so good players to quality and compete at the top right from his Dortmund days. Most football owners not using oil block money will like to have a coach like Klopp compared to Pep.

In conclusion, pep is scared of risky jobs because he don’t want to be exposed not that the clubs(Man U and Chelsea) are not massive enough.

airmark:
Anybody can call anybody anything. Fraudiola called Bielsa the best coach in the world. In fact below is Fraudiola telling you guys that hype him to slow your roll and drop down from the hype train.


“What is the best coach in the world?” he added. “I never felt I am the best, never in my life.

“When I won six titles in a row in Barcelona and won trebles, I never felt that. I won because I had extraordinary players at big clubs.

“There are incredible managers, they don't have these players, they don't have these big clubs. I'm a good manager but not the best.

“Give me a team that is not like Manchester City, I am not going to win.”


This is what we have been banging into your ears but NO, you wouldn't want to learn.

Nor mind them. They want us to believe pep is extraordinary compared to other top coaches whereas he has had the privilege of coaching luxury and formidable team with quality players.

popizaino:
Mount is not all this, the only thing he is that he has the will and he is always wanting to do. If not he is just so below basic.

He is doing all of that but consistent at it is the ish here and it’s due to age and experience.

favoured247:
Yes he should. He is the second best person for that left wing back after chiwell. I was against TT dropping alonso in the Madrid game. He provides more attacking option compared to any other player in that wing. How many times did azpilicueta get into the opposition's box when he played left wing back??
Tomorrow's game should be full attack from Chelsea.
James, kante, kova, alonso
Mount
Havertz Lukaku

Werner in place of Lukaku for pressure on Real Madrid’s defense.

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