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Melvyn11:
You have derailed the discussion. If Ronaldo had stayed in England his goalscoring records will still very much be the same especially if he had changed his style earlier on in his career to the goal machine he is now. You have watched Ronaldo all this years and you think when Messi is scoring 50goals in la liga you think Ronaldo will be ok with his 30 fuckkk no my friend.

That’s not how to see things my friend. Mou changed cr7’s mentality from dribbling and scoring to direct play to goal, he made him his focal man in his counter attacking tactics, cr7 adapted to that because he is really that good. What if he remain in Man U you think Fergie will do that so that cr7 can compete with Messi in goal scoring?? Cr7 would not have seen it that way since they are in different league. E be like say you nor know Fergie and his strictness on players, person wey stone Beckham boot for training ground na go get time to change tactics because of one player.??

Melvyn11:
Just because Man u board don't spend like Madrid which is even debatable doesn't mean they won't be able to create a side that Ronaldo would thrive it. Ronaldo Portugal goal scoring record is another prove of that. The constant is Ronaldo being a goal scoring machine at any were he has played be it Spain, England or the champions league. Take Ronaldo to Norwich and no doubt he would still score 50goals.

Of course Man U do spend but they are not really good in spending on the right players, maybe because they have enjoyed academy players who turnout quality from late 90s so they think something of such can still be attain again with the likes of Rashford, Lingard, cleverly, Welbeck.....But the thing is Epl is now more competitive having teams with more money to spend to bring players.

Melvyn11:
Just because Man u board don't spend like Madrid which is even debatable doesn't mean they won't be able to create a side that Ronaldo would thrive it. Ronaldo Portugal goal scoring record is another prove of that. The constant is Ronaldo being a goal scoring machine at any were he has played be it Spain, England or the champions league. Take Ronaldo to Norwich and no doubt he would still score 50goals.

@theemboldened, you are kidding right. Lol.

Melvyn11:
It doesn't take a soothsayer to know if you have the best player in the world the more your chances of winning trophies and the more profit the club makes. All you have to do is look at the impact Ronaldo had at Madrid to draw your conclusion. If you are saying Ronaldo won't maintain his goalscoring ability in England like he did in Spain then all you have to do is look up his champions league records.

True it doesn’t take a soothsayer to know that Man U is not Real Madrid, vice versa. Epl is not La Liga too. Did cr7 play for Man U when it is UCL match after moving to Madrid?? Was it not same Real Madrid players he played with in ucl.

What make you think Madrid are called the galaticos, you think they depend on their academy for world class players. They buy world class players most times and not make. So you think Man U will make another Giggs and Scholes within a short time or Fergie will still be Man U coach till date?? Think all these things through, not IF IF. I’m the type that is very realistic with life.

Melvyn11:
Yes and the United Management will definitely put more effort in bringing in more world class players when you have Ronaldo has your main man or he might leave.

But you said you must not spend to achieve more. Okay but the thing is united management don’t think this way, they will rather let cr7 go than spending lavishly on quality players like Madrid over the years. If only you know how many players Madrid brought in before mou made them formidable again. Man U board doesn’t spend that way sorry.

Melvyn11:
You are just going back and front. How much did United spend before they went to 3 champions league final in 4 yrs.? it's not only by spending money that you can build a strong squad capable of delivering trophies. You are confusing this United with the one Ronaldo was in. If Ronaldo had stayed United will attract more players and build a team to satisfy Ronaldo if they want to keep him at the club. It's that easy

Like I said earlier, all these you are saying are mere IF, but realistically it’s not so. Remember football is business/profit first for club owner. Okay where will Man U get another Scholes and Giggs if they refused to spend on quality players to make cr7 stay? Tell me.

Melvyn11:
If you check Ronaldo champions league goals and records you won't be making noise about the difficulty of Epl.

To get those goals consistently you need quality players around you, remember football is a team sport and not roger Federer vs Rafael nadal.

I’m not denying cr7’s greatness but as a superb player you need a good supporting cast to achieve more because football is a team sport as I mentioned in the first paragraph.

Melvyn11:
What is not realistic in One of the best club in the world winning more titles and building a better team with the best player in the world? All you have to do is look at his impact at Madrid and draw a conclusion.

That is because Madrid are always willing to break the bank for quality players but same is not with Man U. Man U that refused to sign Modric and Bale to replace aging Scholes and Giggs respectively, instead they settled for Cleverly, Ashley young and Januzag. It’s not about tittles and all that but the two club’s policies are different. Football is business/profit first for club owner, to fans it is entertainment/winning consistently.

Melvyn11:
You see the kind of effect Ronaldo has had on Real Madrid over the last 8 years that would have been United. More league titles and Champions league trophies. He would have achieved the same if not more individual and collective titles with the way the English press will hype up the rivalry with Messi. United would have built a start studded team if Ronaldo didn't leave.

When you say it is cr7 we are talking about here, remember it is Epl we are discussing here too.

eph12:
How many will he score?

Can’t really say but one thing is sure he will be inconsistent with his stats in epl unlike in his la Liga days.

Melvyn11:
You see the kind of effect Ronaldo has had on Real Madrid over the last 8 years that would have been United. More league titles and Champions league trophies. He would have achieved the same if not more individual and collective titles with the way the English press will hype up the rivalry with Messi. United would have built a start studded team if Ronaldo didn't leave.

All these you typed are if but realistically it would’ve not happened that way, remember Man U lost ucl final against Barcelona twice, one when cr7 was still there. Also remember he only had one superb season for Man U, his stats reduced in his last season with you guys.

raumdeuter:
I don't expect it to make sense to you

Your points are dumb and childish. Raumdeuter change or you want make I find you and if I catch you one on one I go drill you. I hear say u be Eiye man back in uni. Maybe na them Dey give u mind wey u take Dey yarn opata for this place.

eph12:
It's the total number of goals for the season including league, cups, uefa, international etc.

Even at that he will not score 50. Haba

So you mean Cr7 will maintain 50 goals a season continuously in epl?? Haba make Una Dey analyze the game with logic and not sentiments and emotions. Which player wan Dey supply am the 50 goals, aging Giggs and Scholes, Cleverly or is it on and off Rooney. This is epl we are talking about where players are well motivated with wages and not La Liga where some clubs owe salary. If he had remained in Man U he would not have achieved much like his Madrid time.

Melvyn11:
How about his 106 champions league goals for Madrid, is that also an easy competition? Man you have nothing to suggest Ronaldo will not be dropping those same 50goals if he was in England. The greatest goal scorer of his time will go to any league and dominate.

No he would not have maintained 50 goals a season in epl.

raumdeuter:
See what a world cup and CL defender did here

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11006847_ramos_jpeg2a1d823a360699d553526eb49740f003

What you’re saying doesn’t make sense and you know it.

raumdeuter:
Yet it was Boateng who was the best defender in the final match

Holland has enough quality to win if players like VVD stepped up like Boateng did

You mean VVD should step up in only final like Boateng? Was Boateng man of the match in that final?

raumdeuter:
1988

Before Boateng's set, when last did Germany win a major trophy

Germany paraded a armful of stars then, it’s not Boateng’s doing. That’s why football is a team sport. Even when Holland paraded stars they couldn’t win any major tournament not to talk of now that they only have just two quality players or so.

raumdeuter:
He plays for Holland. Not like he is from Togo. Holland is good enough if he wasnt useless. No Klopp to protect him in Holland.

When last Holland as a team won a major trophy.

raumdeuter:
Ramos Boateng Pique play to win the major trophies like CL and world cup not some polling booth awards

VVD won ucl too which is a major trophy. You need a better national team side to win WC, no fluke.

raumdeuter:
So Mourinho that was sacked and declared an outcast by Madrid players didn't ruin Madrid players for Carlo and Zidane to rebuild and win?

They went from round of 16 to semi finalist, all thanks to mou’s coaching ability. Meanwhile pep destroyed Bayern with his mumu tiki taka in German soil with German players who were in their peak. Na oversabi Dey worry pep, him just Dey deceive people like you.

raumdeuter:
Who was put with him when Barca was winning the CL trophies?

Tiki taka and messi’s genius did that. Xavi and iniesta are to be thanked for making tiki taka work.

raumdeuter:
The same players Mourinho couldnt win the CL with won with Carlo and won with Zidane. Basically won with every coach who finished a season with Madrid.

Pep has left Bayern now for 4 seasons, we are still waiting for a Bayern coach that would take those players beyond where Pep took them

Someone is telling you pep ruined those Bayern golden generation u Dey yarn megedemegede. Meanwhile, mou made Madrid formidable again which Carlo and Zidane enjoyed. Even my seven years old nephew know this. Pep ruined those Bayern player’s intensity by trying to play Spanish football in German soil. He is a conformist and overrated.

airmark:
Thats why a barca fan advised his coach to put Vidal with him always, so that Barcelona would stop conceding goals up and down, with a leaky midfield.

Raumdeuter has no sound football brain, he won't understand these technical things you are explaining to him.

The way Xabi was put with him during Spain’s WC triumph. Definition of carry along.

raumdeuter:
This fool thinks Jorginho and Boateng play the same role on the field? You are actually more foolish than hensbrain sef

Raumdeuter you don see me finish.

airmark:
Where are the DEFENSIVE stats?

Busquets - The spineless DEFENSIVE midfielder. Even Barcelona fans know it.

he is no longer talking about his primary duty. raumdeuter is shameless.

larride:
Players Pap disgraced in the UCL

Neuer - Worlc Cup and CL winner
Lahm - World Cup and CL winner
Boatheng - World Cup and CL winner
David Alaba - CL winner
Thomas Muller - World Cup and CL winner
Frank Ribery - CL winner
Arjen Robben- CL winner
Javi Martinez - CL winner
Xabi Alonso - World Cup, Euro and CL winner

Yet they keep drinking goals like kunu everytime in the knockout stage of the UCL.

Pap Fraudiola.

Imagine full line up are winners and were in their prime yet Pep couldn't make ucl final with them. It is disgracefully disgraceful.

raumdeuter:
You spent quarter of a billion in one season and you still dey yarn rubbish strict transfer policy

No be point and kill Bakayoko Drinkwater Morata Giroud and Kepa be?

You’re not getting it but it’s ok.

BikeMan:
Top 2 is now a trophy! God noh go shame us o. I remember when this Apari used to say the PL is a local trophy that is unfit for Pep

That is how he changes mouth. There is no fact in what he always say, just spewing stuff out of sentiment and for trolling sake.

TonyeBarcanista:
By Tonyebarcanista

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Who Is A Beta Male?
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I will stop here!

I remain TonyeBarcanista

What about beta-alpha males?

ChristineC:
he's actually fairly good with them, or at least before he joined Man Utd.
I'd let him ride his new found confidence tho, who knows? with the return of Pogba and McTom added to Bruno and Matic's current form, we may just be treated to a great finish in what has been an indifferent season so far.

Wow Man U midfield is beginning to look scary.