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pamcode:
we were decent in the first two seasons of mourinho.

We were not, it was just Mou motivation and packing the bus system that make you feel we were decent.

A40:
What was he doing in elite Europe when Chelsea was still decent?

Chelsea have never be decent in Europe after ucl triumph in Munich.

A40:
Can you see the bolded? Was Van Dijk their only addition? Robertson, Allison? You implied this with this statement

Initially, where we discussing others or Van Dijk? Answer me pls.

A40:
You keep repeating this tiresome line. It's very inconsistent and contradictory with your argument. So you know football is not lawn tennis yet you're giving Van Dijk sole credit for the work of Roberson, TAA and Allison

Let's ignore what Allison has done, ignore Roberson, TAA for providing 20 assists from the back and still keeping clean sheets and give all the credit to Van Dijk

So you know Football is not lawn tennis but you're quick to give Van Dijk sole credit for improving Liverpool even with glaring contribution from others.

It seem you didn’t read my comments well. I said his inclusion to this Liverpool improved their chances of winning trophies and I went further to made mentioned of Arnold, Robertson and Klopp as a way to tell you that football is a team sport and not lawn tennis. So how come you are saying I commended Van solely? E clear say you like twisting too like raumdeuter.

A40:
Where did I say VVD is not a good defender? I opined he was overpriced which was the general consensus when he was bought so what next?

Let him lead his club and country to titles like other defensive greats have done in the past abi wetin bad for wetin I talk? When he gets that he will get all the props

Titles is the name of the game. Not polling awards that you will commend today and reject tomorrow when it doesn't favor your MCM's like Nigerian politicians

How do you guys even see football generally? So before you commend Van he has to win a trophy first, like football is lawn tennis. Why can’t you see the improvement he brought to this Liverpool side since his signing, knowing that Liverpool hasn’t won epl for decades now. The last time they won ucl was in 2005, that’s 14 years ago. Since VDD signing they are on course to two ucl finals and challenging for epl titles. The team is still on rebuilding process. Although, they are formidable but still klopp need a reliable squad depth and they will be competing for every major trophies out there. Currently, Klop is my favorite coach because of how he set up his team and groom players to be quality(e.g, in Dortmund and now Liverpool; Robertson and Arnold).

I’m happy a defender won it this time.

airmark:


Van Dijk

The best in the land.


cc a40 lordfalcao and other idiots

He is just too good. What a guy.

For those of you saying Hazard holds the ball way too much who is he to pass to when Higuain is always far from him and not willing to run into space?

If you watch Hazard and Giroud play there is that interchanging passes among them. Higuain is slow, no agility and doesn’t open when Hazard is with the ball. Make una Dey watch ball with open eyes

RuuDie:
I have been having the 'funny' feeling that he could end up at Man City.

Okah should we go for now?

Very fo.olish logic he keep on spewing out for his fellow mentally unstable cretins.

NOBODYY:
Sane and Hazard are wingers, You had to bring in their goals and assists when comparing them, you didn't stop at goals alone because you wanted to push an agenda. Where was your "As an Attacker, if an Attacker has more goals than you you sit down, assists only come into play when goals has been settled" logic here?

How should we even be sure you're not mentally unstable?

Dayo is depressed in real life.

airmark:
In another news, Neymar begging to play with Hazard



"It could be that interest is rekindled in the likes of Neymar and Hazard, with the former admitting that he would love to work with another mercurial talent.

“I would like to play with Hazard. He has a style similar to mine,” Neymar told Fox Sports.

“I think I could give it a try. We would cause havoc together "

Real recognizes real.

HanksAnuku:
Klopp effect aided Salah?

But I thought you guys said it's because Liverpool were the better team

You talked about number of goals last season and I reminded you Who is Salah coach last season and who is Hazard coach this season. We all can see the effect of offensive coach in Hazard game this season as he is topping in goals contribution.

HanksAnuku:
How is hazard the better player this season? How?

Stats don't lie, but interpretation of stats is subjective. Guy I'm the one who said Hazard is in the same bracket at Ronaldo and Messi talent wise. My allegiance is clear

But if even Chelseafan1 can cuss hazard this season, then what I'm saying should come as no great surprise

Hazard has had a great season individually. But his stats have flattered to deceive.

Look at Aubameyang and Lacazette. Lacazette has only 13 league goals, but 9 of those goals were the ones that sealed the win for his team. I think Auba has 16 or 17, not sure but only 3 of those goals won the 3 points for his team.

This is what I'm talking about here. Not pumping Huddersfield and Cardiff then clapping your hands.

Salah is DIRECTLY responsible for 1/3 of all Liverpool's wins this season. That's not stats padding by scoring unimportant goals

See what happened when we last faced them. Hazard was playing rubbish, while Salah was shooting golazos. After the match Hazard went to be joking with Salah sef. I felt like slapping him.

We met Liverpool trice this season Hazard scored in two meetings while Salah 1. Who did better?

odizeey:
wetyn concern me and raumdeuter.
If I was supporting hazard my nonsense for make sense to you.
Comon get out

Your nonsense will never make sense cos you keep on spewing trash all in the name to sound like raumdeuter.

HanksAnuku:
Since when have Liverpool had better players?

How many goals did Hazard score playing alongside Costa and Fabregas

How many goals did Hazard score playing with Mazacar or Lampard

How many goals and assists did Mane and Firmino have last season, when Salah was running riot? Compare to Willian, Pedro, and Morata and the numbers are very similar. Why did Hazard not match Salah last season then?


Bros rest abeg. This is not one of those arguments where you can claim the team is better as an excuse for Salah outperforming Hazard.

Salah gangan IS the team.

klopp effect aided Salah last season. Hazard has been playing under a defensive coach over the years. If Na so why mou sell Salah for Chelsea and leave Hazard? Ghen Ghen stuff.

odizeey:
that's why I am saying nobody gives you award for your wrong of choice team.

Just See response to brilliant a analysis. My guy listen and learn, and stop trying to be raumdeuter as he is not helping most of you here in terms of know how of the game of football.

odizeey:
please don't call Pogba dele Alli again you are disrespecting the PFA.

It is the truth. Both are not known to be midfield dictator. They always choke when been played against a decent CM. Dele Alli has Erickson behind him. You guys need Verratti or modric type of player so that pogba can permanent in his preferred position which is offensive midfielder.

airmark:
I asked you a sensible question but you typed hundreds of foolish words without answering. An answer that shouldn't have taken you more than two minutes to type. Answer the damn question and stop doing senseless chicken dance around it.

What do you use to rate attackers?

They are waiting for season to end and see if either Salah or sterling will surpass Hazard in goals + assist stats before they say something on that. I know raumdeuter and his son plan.

odizeey:
Because someone was not as good as his past season, he is now below hazard.
19 goals. Goals against top teams too. Against stubborn teams. What nonsense.

You dey cry hazard. Comot sterling na.

No one is crying that Hazard is not in team of the year m. Na the senseless analysis I see for this thread about Hazard and Salah make me flare up. Sterling and mane deserve to be there. The team let Hazard down this season. If Chelsea were contending for the league title just like Liverpool and man city I know Hazard will win best player of he season with his overall contribution so far.

HanksAnuku:
Eden Hazard last month:

“Mo Salah is one of my good friends and he’s doing something incredible.

“I try to look at this player and this player and try to reach that level.”



Just in case you were wondering

He is just been humble. Salah is his friend so what do you expect.

odizeey:
is dele Alli not even better than all your midfielders?

Me calling pogba dele Alli with skills doesn’t mean dele Alli is bad, I’m only buttressing how their style of play is almost similar. Pogba is better than dele Alli but their best position in the field of play is similar hence the comparison. It’s just like that ex player saying Hazard is similar to Messi talent wise, it doesn’t mean he is saying they are equal but a compliment to Hazard.

Btw, Kante is far better than that overrated dele Alli, although they don’t play in same position. Dele Alli is good but too overrated. If he was not English you will be seeing him as just there player.

weedtaker:
pogba has won 22 points for united, playing as a midfielder, but you call him black oscar with flair, now they are doing same to hazard and you are busy rolling on the floor crying and shouting at the top of your voice with tons of thick catarrh dropping out of your nose.

nyama

I’m not the one using stats they are the one using it all the time. Why can’t they apply same stats in this context. I’m only calling out their hypocrisy.

Yes pogba is dele Ali with skills. He is not a midfield dictator but an offensive midfielder just like dele Alli. Primarily, I do not access my players based on stats because it doesn’t tell it all so I have watched Man U games and see that against any decent midfielder pogba always struggle to hold on hence my judgment on him that he is dele Alli with skills, I’m not saying pogba is not a good player but he is not a midfield dictator and Man U keep playing him where he is not at his best.

Someone up there was talking about been influential forgetting that you have unproductive attackers playing alongside Hazard and you want chelsea to win the league when he is the only one doing a yo man job while Salah has mane and sterling get Aguero. Continue.

Tomorrow now some mumu here go say Na chelsea fan Dey compare Hazard to Messi when they are only complementing his talent by comparing him to Messi.

This is what we have been saying here too. Common sense.

Hazard wey don win more points for his team and highest in the league(23) is less influential compare to Salah. Shame.

Wack analysis everywhere all the name to berate Hazard.

diggz:
Hopefully he will be off our books come next season. Trust me, we go dey alright Las Las. Before hazard we dey alright, after hazard we go dey alright.

Sure we go Dey alright. Soldier go soldier come Barrack remain. But make we Dey analyze football with logic and not with emotions and sentiments.

So because Liverpool is topping chelsea Salah is better than Hazard like football Na lawn tennis. Na which kind reasoning be all this one. Smh.

How is Salah better than Hazard this season? Na which kind hypocrite full this thread sef.

HanksAnuku:
Assists count, but assists are not always an indicator of individual brilliance....afterall, the person being assisted still has to convert before you get your credit as an assist provider.

If you combine all the stats, Hazard has 3 more goal contributions than Salah in total. But how come Salah has more match winning goals than Hazard? How come Liverpool are doing a lot better than Chelsea?

Hazard stat pads. Score 2 goals in a 5-0 demolition of huddersfield, and then stay silent when City pump us 6 kondo.


In all the games we've lost this season, Hazard did not contribute a goal or assist. SO you cant even say oh he tried, but defence let him down.

Individually Hazard has been brilliant, but have his goals and assists helped us, the same way Salah's output has helped city? I think the answer is no.

Yes his goals and assist have helped us. If not for his goals and assist we won’t have even be contending for top 4. Always remember that football is a team sport. What are other of your attackers doing? If Salah is not scoring mane is there. If Hazard nor score either we draw or loose. Didn’t that indicate something is wrong with the team when he is not the only player on the pitch.

airmark:
Sallah even played more matches?

I remember he went like two months without a goal and Mane was delivering during that period. If not for the uselessness of our other attackers who couldn't complement Hazards numbers we wouldn't be dragging spots with mumu teams like man utd and arsenal.

Salah went off for two months but guess what mane is there. But if Hazard go off for one or two matches and the rest attacker refused to step up too all he’ll let loose, forgetting that football is a team sport.