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raumdeuter:
What has Coutinho done to be a great or top player? So scoring in a world cup qualifier suddenly makes him a great player? You no see as dem dey hustle to make him Balon dor since he scored against Argentina. Paulinho too scored against Argentina. He should be in FIFA hall of Fame

Ahmed Musa actually scored 2 vs the same Argentina in a World cup game, So should we name him GOAT?

coutinho is a quality player take it or leave it.

raumdeuter:
You dont listen, I posted it severa times nihilist added his voice but those who refused to see or learn will never do, What Pep was hailed for was the MANNER in which he beat Barcelona by dominating and outshooting them

Whats the big deal about scoring in a world cup qualifier? Ikechi Anya scored vs Germany, Robson Kanu scored vs Belgium so does that make him a great player? Coutinho scored vs Argentina suddenly he is a top player?

Some of you cant piece together a coherent argument or make sensible points you just try to nibble here and there and make you look unreasonable

Please you should analyzing football. Is this the first time coutinho is scoring great goal huh.

raumdeuter:
Because aside Messi all the other Dimaria Higuain are like Hidden Hazard once they get into Argentine shirt. See Neymar using Zabaleta to wipe the floor

You see Neymar delivering for his team when will Hidden do the same

coutinho delivered as well.

Only on nairaland someone will say Belgium have quality players than Brazil. Smh

Costa will be fit before Middlesbrough game.

bigkesh:
Forget youth
Can we have Alonso and Rodriguez together??
Can we have Kondo and Matic,then Kante and Witsel??

That's over imbalance..... Rodriguez is just another Alonso
Kondo is just another Matic

Squad should be about varieties, that's why I wanted Matic,Kante,Chalobah,Verratti and Baker

Wingbacks should be Moses,Alonso,Kennedy/Ake,

Now imagine having Costa and Lukaku,Why pls??Has Michy done anything wrong?


The best teams aren't made of the best 11s,I understand the need for stars but After BBC Madrid have Morata and Vasquez,Barca have Whoever they have.....We don't need 22 stars,we only need 15 and 7 other players that fit the style and offer good service and if those 7 can be youth products,all well and good

Now I know why we are good friends on here. We have same policy when it comes to football.

ekanDamie:
but why am I seeing figures like 51-47 ; 276-254
we are used to 10,000,000-6,000,000 here in 9ja

Thats the evaluation of the whole voting.

Chelseafan1:
Raumdeuter types to many nonsense in one post just to win arguments.

U lot shud stop disturbing yourselves.

raumdeauter is a troll I keep saying it and he is angry with Chelsea due to what airmark is making him to pass through in their(Bayern) thread.

See where them dey now

raumdeuter:
Rate them as what? Thats a very ambiguous question which is where your confusion comes from. Most of you just dont ask the right questions

E.g Ibra is good but not on the level of Etoo or Drogba who are his age mates but he is surely better than Kevin Kuranyi

Do I rate Ibra when talking about the level of Etoo, NO, Do I rate him when talking about the level of Kuranyi or Adebayor YES

Do I rate Hazrad on the level of Bale, Neymar Suarez lewandoski NO, Do I rate him when talking about Mahrez, Bolasie, Walcott, Mikitaryan YES

Lewandowski? So you're even comparing strikers to Hazard. Learn to compare likes for likes. Even if you put Messi in that Chelsea of last season they will still go trophyless, what I am saying is that team win trophies not individual, this is not lawn tennis. There is a high chance of Brazil winning the next World Cup than Belgium same with Barca winning ucl before Chelsea. Zidane picked at the age of 25 or 26 n his career do you know why it was so? because he was playing in a juve team that can't win jack continentally, of course the skills and talent was always there. All I am saying is that, as a world class footballer you need an equal great team to play along side with for you to reach the top. Under dogs winning trophies are rare case like what we saw in euro 2004 and epl 2015/16.

raumdeuter:
I am sure Barcelona teammates are also why he is about to break Brazilian goal record while Hazard is useless for Belgium

You should check the meaning of 'useless' before applying it in your sentence. Thank you.

TRendlona:
How about Champions league? Neymar has the highest number of assist..

Playing for Barcelona stat is not always the problem and Neymar is one of the beneficiaries.

TRendlona:
Oh yea that's true.. But as a midfielder, you should have loads of assists in your record.. How come Neymar still has more assists than Hazard?(overall career).

How come iniesta doesn't have load of assist? Epl is different from la Liga bros.

TRendlona:
Diademk07 , Chelseafan1 and Hensben what can y'all say about this?

If you don't know hazard has been used as LMF in 4-2-3-1 formation all this years and you expect him to be scoring goals for fun.

lekkie073:
After seeing his side blow the
chance to beat Middlesbrough on Saturday, Guardiola said: “I know you want me to say, ‘The premier League is the hardest league in the world’.
“I will tell you, you have to be so proud, the Premier League is the most difficult.
“It (the title race) will continue like this. The season is long,
sometimes when you miss out on points.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and
death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can
assure you it is much, much more important than that."
“I expected it would be like this, defensive and so difficult for
many, many reasons.
“But I am so happy to be here to handle those situations. In the
end we will improve and achieve our targets.”
Guardiola, meanwhile, has given his blessing for injury-plagued
star Vincent Kompany to join up with the Belgium squad this week.
Belgium face Estonia in a World Cup qualifier before taking on
Holland in a friendly and Kompany is expected to be involved,
despite starting just three games this season.
Guardiola added: “He is available to play. It will be good for him
to get minutes and hopefully he will come back fit.”

Baba don dey see the moral wey dey epl. E remain Neymar. Abeg Man U make una try sign that guy from Barca I need to prove some people wrong that epl is not beans that you eat and doze off.

raumdeuter:
So its the name Brazil that they will line up on the field

for the past 5 yrs and Currently Belgium has better players than Brazil, Yet Neymar was able to take the useless Fred Jo Hulk Oscar etc to achieve while Hazard is so useless with Belgium and cant lead them to win anything

When did Brazil play Belgium for you to know which is better? FIFA ranking? Lol. I see you as a troll, you might know the game of football but you analyze it with sentiment and hatred which is very bad and a pity.

raumdeuter:
Lukaku did his best KdB did his, Hidden was supposed to be the star of the team and flopped

The Olympic gold was what Brazil has been missing in their coffers for over 100yrs and even rested Neymar from Copa for the Olympics and Neymar didnt dissapoint unlike Hazard who was one of the worst players at the world cup

Brazil is a household name in world of football so it is expected they will win trophy anytime soon unlike Belgian national team who are still trying to get there .

Debroslink:
When a man United fan places Robben above Neymar, just to overrate Hazard, you know he's a biased fellow.

Robben is one of the main reasons Holland lost the world cup final. Who remembers that one on one situation he wasted against Casillas?

I'm yet to see Neymar flop for Brazil when the ovation is loudest. I remember confederations cup final against Spain. I also remember Olympics final.

However, both Robben and Neymar have delivered UCL trophy for their respective clubs by their overall play especially scoring the decisive goal in the final match.

Until Hazard does what these two have done for club and country, he is NOT in the same level with them.

If hazard was a Barcelona player he would've won ucl too by now with a great performance.

Debroslink:
When a man United fan places Robben above Neymar, just to overrate Hazard, you know he's a biased fellow.

Robben is one of the main reasons Holland lost the world cup final. Who remembers that one on one situation he wasted against Casillas?

I'm yet to see Neymar flop for Brazil when the ovation is loudest. I remember confederations cup final against Spain. I also remember Olympics final.

However, both Robben and Neymar have delivered UCL trophy for their respective clubs by their overall play especially scoring the decisive goal in the final match.

Until Hazard does what these two have done for club and country, he is NOT in the same level with them.

You lack football knowledge if you think Neymar delivered ucl for Barca. I keep telling you football is not lawn tennis.

Neymar can't even lace Messi's boot. Neymar is just like pogba, i.e. They are showboating footballers

airmark:
Pm me, you, hensben, greatihex

Done thanks bruv

Diademk07:
I can agree that Hazard is not yet on the same level as the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Robben but he's on the same level as the likes of Bale, Neymar, Reus, Ozil, KDB etc.

And yes, he's actually capable of pulling an under performing team to a title, maybe not as consistent but if people could go back to that Chelsea's 2014/2015 title campaign, he was the only player that was still awake in that Chelsea team after Nov, consistently dragging the team to several wins. He's done same for Lille too.

As a matter of fact, I've hardly seen Neymar put up those shows in an under-performing negative team like Hazard did in Chelsea title triumph, I mean after Nov when Mourinho's team became more negative and pragmatic in their play and the likes of Fab, Costa, Matic zoned off as well.

But instead of Mourinho to address what had gone wrong in the winter period when his team zoned off in the previous season, he continued to expect same show from Hazard to continue to dig out the team in every negative performance in the next season. Even Mourinho attested to the fact that he was negative during his time at Chelsea and promised more attacking play at United.

The question now is how many times has Neymar played under a negative coach? Even Pedro had great numbers and won many titles while playing the same Neymar's role for an attacking Barca team that has worldclass players such as Suarez, Iniesta, Messi. Hazard never had the luxury of that. If Pedro could look good in Barca's attacking team with its wealth of talents, why won't Neymar look good in such team?

Another thing is Hazard is a SS, that's his best position and the position he played at Lille. Hence, even if you want to deploy him on the wing, you would have to deploy him as a wing forward with the license to roam, the same role Neymar enjoys at Barca buts sadly under Mourinho, he was used as a winger or at times, as a wide midfielder with the burden of consistently tracking back and starting his move from a defensive position and it's no surprise his attacking display got stifled as a result. He also plays the same role for the Belgium sides except at the euros when he got deployed in the middle while KDB was switched to the wing after a poor start.

And its no coincidence he looked different for Belgium at the euros compared to how he used to perform for them prior to his move to the middle and everyone who watched the Belgium team at the euro would know Hazard was Belgium's best player at the euro. Unfortunately, the likes of KDB, Lukaku weren't on the same wavelength and were in poor form, especially KDB who looked awful at the euros.

Some talked about Bale at the euro but should I remind you that Bale wasn't even Wale's best player at the euro? Ramsey was. The likes of Ramsey, Allen, Williams and even their striker all put in great shifts to support Bale at the euro. That's to tell you a player don't make a team!

As a matter of fact, if I could take one player from that Chelsea team, that would be Hazard, erm... Kante as well.

Tell them bro.
Sentimental buffoons everywhere.

Make unu show us the line up la

airmark:
https://www.gifbin.com/bin/102012/1350490129_obama_handshake.gif

We made it.

Baba abeg send me my 25pounds.
Hazard na good luck

barackohandso:
Funny how Chelseafan1 and hensben have suddenly found their voice again after a while. Guess it's good times for Chelsea fans, or in this case Hazard fanboys. It's like 2 seasons ago all over again, hensben is giving us his routine line again

I have never lost my voice about hazard except you've not be following this thread.

donjazet:
If you really think that Mikel can effectively cover kantes role in that midfield, then you certainly don't know much about Chelsea, and Moreso Oscar has not done anything to suggest he can play as a left back. He is right footed and we have never seen much of his crossing. I repeat we don't have the squad size to carry us through the season. We need reinforcements in January .

Bro we are only competing in epl and fa cup so no le le

10d0ve:
I wonder if Hazard has been on NL for the past year to see all the constructive criticism against him, cos the guy has improved on important areas of his game. He's cut out that annoying push n stop syndrome too, Ney is doing fine, but we should call it a spade, He needs to start scoring consistently too....I prefer my Lwf to be banging in goals not that BS excuse they were making for Hazard about being creative n completed dribbles...

Thats because hazard has been used as LMF in 4-2-3-1 formation and mou is a defensive minded coach. But now Chelsea play 3 upfront including hazard hence his scoring form. This is what Neymar have been enjoying in Barcelona but you guys fail to see this. Hazard now play LWF/striker.

donjazet:
He is correct. Sift through your optimism now and think really hard about the team. Have you really thought about what the reparcaution if Kante and Alonso get injured?, who replaced them or Moses. We certainly don't have the squad size to carry us through.

Same with if injury hit Liverpool, man city or arsenal key players. Chelsea even have experience bench when compare to those team mentioned above.

This is same ibime that said Chelsea doesn't have the squad to compete this season epl title but man city, arsenal, liverpool and manure urinated have.

dopeJemi:
Please, who knows that idi.ot that has hensbrain should tell him to stop quoting me

You're a bull rap. Dopesk.

M U G U go suck mou, pogba, mikhitaryan and mere fish dey play balls.

Bimffo:
Even James should not be in the same sentence with Hazard, Please.

Or is it not the same James of Madrid.

James is still been hyped because he's a Madrid player nothing else, only disadvantage hazard has.

Ibime:
Did you know that Sanchez has led his country to the last 2 Copa America titles winning player of the tournament in the process?

I wonder which world you are living in. The world is bigger than Stamford Bridge you know?

When Hazard reaches that level, no one will deny him, but he ain't doing what the 2nd tier are doing.

Football is not lawn tennis oga. Team win trophies in game of football not individual. Case study Portugal european triumph c boy was injured yet they still won the cup.