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andrewbaba44:
Only a fool will put busquets and Jorginho on the same sentence

I don’t just get the insults busquets is receiving from some certain monikers like Ibime and co

Man was the best DM for about 10 seasons ,and some people think they can just talk down on him with some stupid ijebu ode analysis

Mehn na wa ooo

Who made him best DM? When and where?

raumdeuter:
Lebouef is mid as fuucckkkk

When did you start using fucck to comment. Dayo don Dey turn gangster small small for Yankee. Hope you never go join O block gang for Chicago

Ibime:
You have always been foolish

Which Chelsea fan does not know that Kante was Chelsea best player in UCL by far

MOTM Vs Madrid home and away, City, Athleti

No he need stat to tell him that.

swiz123:
Ibime, professor Hensben just described Rodri as a robust DM. We need a definition of robustness please.

Rodri is a robust DM, it’s not only fast and hard tackler that make a DM robust but his strength and shield when with the ball and not easily dispossessed by challenge. Jorginho is tactical but technically frail with the ball, in other words, his spirit is willing but body is weak. Rodri is tactically and technically strong with the ball so he can progress play with precision, even though he is not a hard tackler but has the body to make blocks as far as it’s not counter attack against his team that require chasing/running. Bousquet and Jorginho are same just that the former is slightly better with some trick and eagle eye, before side way passes, both are no no for me in my team. I actually like deep lying playmaker if he can progress or transition play from defense to attack like pirlo or Enzo(although he is a CM but can comfortably play regista) and also maintain temple of the game. Jorginho is neither this nor that, but to maintain tempo of the game and this is mostly needed when the team is leading 3 zero or when you have super attackers upfront to push opponent backward always like in the case of bousquet with Barca during the time of prime Messi and co. Jorg and Bousq are definition of carry along player. If you watch closely in the past and now, any time Barca concede their possessive structure to their opponent they will mostly lose that game, sometimes with wide margin. But watch Madrid, even if they are not totally in control of the game they will mostly still win because they have an actual CDM in Casemiro who is ready to fold his sleeve to make blocks and tackles in front of his defense. I’m not a fan of stat because it is deceiving and doesn’t tell the whole story so those guys posting Jorg vs Kante stat need to watch football more and do eye test to actually know who is making the team effective and thick.

Now what is the primary purpose of CDM in football? Why don’t we just have CM and then positioned defense? When the team is defending or being attacked CDM is expected to go anywhere the ball is to make tackle unlike the 4 man defense that have to remain in shape positionally, CDM is expected to lose home training during this time and go for any man with the ball. With this, he protect his 4 man defense from constant invasion and pressure.

Below is what we know CDM to be but pep disciple want us to accept the new type that usually expose his team in crucial games. There is a reason he has been unable to win ucl without Messi.


A CDM, or central defensive midfielder, is a midfielder that focuses on defense but moves forward to create scoring chances when needed. A CDM is mostly tasked with supporting the defensive efforts of the team. While not a true defender, they play a very defensive game.

Sportsweb:
No Koulibaly as well. Maybe Chalobah or Fofana returns

Fofana.

Bombblacks:
You used him in a low block to win all those trophies which even gives jorginho more credit for being adaptable. We have seen how good jorginho is in a possession based set up and with Guardiola in the premier league he would have slotted right in. Jorginho does all Gundogan offers in that particular CDM roles. We saw jorginho led Napoli dominate Manchester city in the champions league as well.

At emboldened, you lied and it shows you didn't watch our ucl and uel win, we actually dominated teams in those wins including real madrid. Why are you trying hard to paint chelsea bad when we that support and watch the team telling you that jorg is a liability. He is a liability because he rarely progress play and cause attacking threat and defensively he is easily breezed past and dominated in the air. All what he does best i side and back passes and then to some extent maintaining temple of the game like Mikel when with the ball. Personally that type of CDM is waste of space, mostly in epl, when you can actually get a proper CDM like case, rodri and tchouameni that are defensively and offensively solid.

FirstbornWds:
And in the Euros where Kante wasn't carrying him, he emerged as a winner and as one of the best players of the tournament.

Take it or leave it... Chelsea simply lacked the major prospeneties to allow any technical DM prosper in the team and unless something is done, one other midfielder will have to cover for the DM, leaving so much space when he's actually not there... Just as Kante was to Jorg

Why are you calling Chelsea when he actually achieved with the team both individually and team trophies by being carried. I said personally i don't like his type of CDM, he is a liability.

FirstbornWds:
And in the Euros where Kante wasn't carrying him, he emerged as a winner and as one of the best players of the tournament.

Take it or leave it... Chelsea simply lacked the major prospeneties to allow any technical DM prosper in the team and unless something is done, one other midfielder will have to cover for the DM, leaving so much space when he's actually not there... Just as Kante was to Jorg

italy too has quality CM with strength around him; verratti, barella and locatelli. Like i said before, jorginho actually achieved in Chelsea too but personally i don't like his type of CDM, mostly in epl. With physical weakness if he had quality offensive play i won't budge, it means he can be used as CM but his progressive play is average, most times, there is no attacking threat in his passes, just side and back passes.

FirstbornWds:
Maybe you think Rodri is actually a fast or robust DM but he's here... On course to maybe win the 3 EPL trophy.

Your team might lack the impetus to know to use technical DMs but don't blame that on Pep who knows what he wants and go for it.

Like it's all players that pep bought clique, spare me that bro.

FirstbornWds:
Maybe you think Rodri is actually a fast or robust DM but he's here... On course to maybe win the 3 EPL trophy.

Your team might lack the impetus to know to use technical DMs but don't blame that on Pep who knows what he wants and go for it.

Rodri is actually a robust CDM with attacking contribution. Jorg is thin and weak, his attacking prowess is poor; can't shoot due to his tiny thighs, can't context for heading ball like Rodri and rarely progress play. Kante carried him most times, when Kante is not playing our midfield become express and we look thin and average in midfield.

Bombblacks:
Again not accurate. We have seen jorginho at Napoli and in his first season at Chelsea under sarri to know you are lying. Gundogan is not stronger than Jorginho In that role. Your team didn't know how to use jorginho effectively.

They didn't know how to use him yet they won ucl with him and he even got individual awards with chelsea compared to napoli. i have personal problem with jorg type of cdm because they are liabilities to their partner and do basics for the team. Why not get a proper CDM then instead of one weakling. Again gudo can progress play and not easily bullied off the ball when challenged unlike jorg. Italian league is slow so his type of cdm will see light there if at all.

Pep that introduced those type of CDM into the game won't dare rely on them in epl or ucl mostly when there is no messi to do magic.

airmark:
A month now, you are yet to tell us extraordinary things Jorginho did against our toughest opponents in that Ucl. But could jump out from nowhere when your spineless DM who is now getting benched at Arsenal, was mentioned.

Man City and Fabregas know he carried your spineless Jorginho against Madrid and City.

Anybody with football knowledge can easily see it that kante carried that guy, he is a liability that do basics for the team.

Bombblacks:
There's no way Jorginho is weak and easily subdued when compared to someone like Gundogan. Pep used the same Gundogan as a Dm in the same league and was dominant. He would have used jorginho to dominate the same league as well.

Again Gudo is astute with the ball and can actually progress play whereas jorg rarely progress play and easily bullied off the ball when challenged. He is with arteta who is pep student so let's see how he will use him to win the league.

Trevor012:
Hensben can never stop disgracing himself. His past posts will always come back to hunt him 😂😂

Now let me give you the last attention, the fact you go dig post of mine out of context doesn't mean you are making sense. i have your receipts yafun yafun but i won't toll that lane with you because i understand better.

Bombblacks:
Guardiola used Gundogan as a Dm to win something like 10 straight matches in the same Epl. Your team didn't know how maximize a player like Jorginho because if Pep had gotten him he would have surely won the league not just once.

Lies. jorg is weak whereas gudo is astute with the ball, it's just like saying sylva is weak because he is small which is not true. Jorg is weak and easily subdued. Pep would've bought another cdm already and bench or sell jorg. You guys talk like it's every player pep sign that clique. Because he played bousquet in la liga doesn't mean it will work for him in epl.

airmark:
There's nothing old school in Ibime criticizing spineless DMs. Ancelotti must be old school for bringing Tchouameni right? Real Madrid had Casemiro who's not spineless and won multiple Ucls.

If not for Kante, do you think a midfield of Jorginho would have seen us go all the way in Ucl? In fact these days there must be steel in your middle.

Having a solid anchor man, is not old school. Arsenal without Partey will be like scotch egg without egg, and Arteta is not old school.

i still don’t know what’s difficult to understand that Jorginho is a liability mostly in a league like epl. Kante carried that guy and burned himself down because of that. Instead of having weakling sitting CDM that just do side and back passes when with the ball why not have Casemiro/Rodri/Tchouameni type that sit and defend without the ball and still make progressive passes with the ball, also have good shooting skills. I forbid bousquet/Jorginho type of CDM in my team, never again. If at all, Pirlo and Enzo are the type of deep lying midfielder/regista I will like to have in that situation than bousquet/Jorginho type, the later are liabilities to teams, mostly without the ball.

Hmmm

BlueMann:
Andrey Santos

Captained the team to U-20 Sudamericano victory

Scored the winning goal in the final game, and was named MOTM

6 goals in 8 games from CDM

Get that work permit asap

If we get a good coach he can make him like Brazilian Bellingham.

Ballzproblem2:
I know all this will won't be possible except will sell some Cohbam bums ,and mount is rejecting new contract are you thinking what I'm thinking 😏

Mount can F off, Havertz10 was right that mount will hold this team back.

Joezinho:
Listening to Potter interviews before and after games, you get the notion that he believes in opponents more than the team he leads.

Opponents are always better rated by him.

Thats a mentality of a small and average coach.

Ballzproblem2:
I swear clowns that have not touch trophy for over seven years they make noise ,they have been having bad season year in year out nobody cap ,one bad season for chelsea they're acting like we are finished , there's a reason I don't answer them

They just need attention and validation of their on and off rashford.

popizaino:
😂😂😂😂
Inverted winger,chaos inswinger, nutmeg,good positioning, intelligent movement and what other term are we going to use to confuse them again😂?

Which of this rare quality has Ziyech shown at Chelsea and as been beneficial to the team?

zyech is not made for epl, he is lazy and nonchalant.

Ballzproblem2:
you dey answer them 😂 when mount , chabolah , Tammy Abraham etc win UCL garbacho Still dey academy to make name , mediocrity is when you celebrate league position as trophy why clubs like chelsea,real Madrid cement their legacy by winning trophies

it's shameful from them honestly. I think they are just desperate.

Lana1:
0 million great british pounds.

https://images2.imgbox.com/fd/45/iIHQMZYd_o.jpg

I need ur 250m attackers to come outside

Forgetting that our feeders won ucl already. lol

Ballzproblem2:
nobody is talking how Enzo played as a DM which is not his position there by limit him ,man still dropped masterclass , get that man a DM we will see a beast

I am telling you, that guy is a proper signing. With a proper DM beside him that guy will produce more progressive passes that will be leading to goals. We need a coach though to bring out the best in these players

Sell Pulisic and Zyech, sign Felix. A Madrid will collect installment payment from us. Felix Nkunku maduka Mudryk and Sterling is enough to win the league next season.

dostr4:
Potter is his own problem. I don't know if he doesn't have the balls to make this team his own & impact changes.. He is steering the Team like an interim manager.

He don’t just have it, you can’t give what you don’t have. Zyech’s introduction was unnecessary. Chilwell playing behind Mudryk will Bering out the best in him instead of Cucurella instead he sub off Mudryk when Chilwell came on. His tactical plans are basic, typical English manager, it’s just individual talent that’s even giving us draw, if Jorg was still here we would’ve lost Fulham and west ham game.

I’m avoiding a senseless troll he think his opinion is important. At least Raumdeuter troll with sense not Someone digging up post out of context.

Trophyles tot fans making noise like they used to win trophies before. Nonsense.

Clueless potter. Bring in Chilwell to free up Mudryk fofana for Havertz. Instead he went for two clueless englsih players. What was the need for Zyech who just spam cross for the sake of it. Can’t you see how Enzo passed the ball to Felix for the goal.

Capaldi:
Graham is going to serve us another dose of a boring 0:0 draw. The only reason am looking forward to this match is the link up of Havertz and Felix with Mount on the bench.

That man will not bench mount. Mount is only useful in 343 formation, he is clueless in 433 formation as a 10.