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Agrogbeide:
On the issue of the Trinity many Bible verses can support any stand you choose to claim. JESUS CHRIST Is NOT GOD or JESUS CHRIST IS GOD can be proved with a lot of Bible passages.
But the question is will many LEARN, UNLEARN AND RELEARN so that we can know the exact truth by the HOLY SPIRIT?
Let's crack this nut a bit;
Mr XYZ is a very successful man, a husband to one Wife, Father to four Kids, and a CEO of XYZ company with 10 employees working under him.
1. In relation to his wife, kids and employees is Mr XYZ three persons?
2. In relation to his wife, kids and employees are his duties the same?
3. Can Mr XYZ be a Husband, Father and Employer same time?
4. Is there a distinctive function between Mr XYZ Wife, Kids and Employees?
The question above holds tangible amount of truth that can guide us to unravel the relationship between The Father, Son and Holy Spirit as it relates to the Almighty God. If we seek the right path we will surely arrive at the SAME TRUTH.
Lord God Almighty let this truth we seek be revealed unto us by the Holy Spirit and through our Lord and Savior Jesus. Amen
Thanks.
God bless.

Why not present your supposition by scripture? What is the right path? Three gods of trinity or One God, the Father?

petra1:
1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.[

Is it the dead that are to be caught up or the living? Read the scripture again

If anyone cannot simply comprehend this verse, he can never understand anything from the Bible.

Humanists don't know Who God is, they just feign ignorance everywhere. They only see things from their human, selfish and shortsighted perspectives. The carnal mind cannot comprehend the things of the spirit. If God decides to destroy this world right now with everything and everyone in it, your police won't be able to arrest Him, no one would question His action. Every one will just perish without a tangible reason and you folks won't be able to complain in hell. He owns and formed and made His world and everything in it, fools don't question Him on what He does with or in it. Instead of these babes to beg for mercy, they want to rebel against their Creator, they want to question His action out of the foolishness of their hearts and minds! What stupidity! What folly! What disaster!

OtemAtum:
Jehovah, fictitious Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not even as mighty as the gods of Science. I wonder why you guys are arguing over them at this period when Jehovah is in his spiritual cage.

Aferk 10:18
18. Behold, Yahweh and Alla have been cast into the cage which is spiritual. And they shall be judged by the mouths of the homos of the world for a thousand years.

Blasphemous buffoon playing with untimely death. Yahweh, even Jehovah, made the heavens and the earth by His word. Your god is merely a demon, you maggot. Now save your soul and repent of your madness or judgment will be pronounced upon you.

solite3:
John 1:1 already settle the score. Jesus is God

Interpreting the verse as "and the Word was (a) God" is also absolutely accurate.

UceeGod:
All you've succeeded in doing is to contradict yourself, unless if you really mean there are two Gods (which is impossible). The whole of the Bible is replete with evidence that Jesus Christ is the same God(Yahweh) of the old testament, who manifested in different forms to the Jewish people at different times before the incarnation at Bethlehem just over 2000 years ago. He is the same Holy Spirit manifesting in the lives of everyone who believes in Him from the day of Pentecost till date.

That's a deception, sir. Jesus is and was and will be the Word Yahweh speaks throughout eternity, either directly or by His prophets. But of course, His Word carries His personality. What I speak is what I am.

There are a thousand distinction between the Father and the Son in scripture. Are the Father and the Son one? Yes! Just as we believers are One Spirit with Christ, since we are joined with Him by faith. The Father is in Jesus (Note: through the Holy Ghost), and Jesus is in the Father (Note: as the Word of God). This is the same in case of believers, for we are in Christ by faith and Christ in us through the Holy Ghost. We must understand the difference between the Person and the Presence of God. The Presence of God is everywhere and can be in any person through the Holy Ghost, but His Person is in heaven, not in anyone. Same with our Lord Jesus. His presence is with us and in us but His person is in heaven.

Our Lord and Saviour Jesus came to reveal and restore us to the Father. John 17:6; I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now there is a false teaching out there that God manifested Himself three times to fulfill three roles. That's falsehood. Absolutely untrue.

Daniel 7:9, 13 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

No Son of man has ever been allowed into the direct presence of God, that is, the Ancient of Day or the Father, except our Lord Jesus or the Word or the Son of God. The Son of man came to the Ancient of Day. If they were a Person, would Daniel describe them as separate entities? Maybe Daniel was drunk! This event recorded by Daniel was immediately after Jesus ascended into heaven recorded in Acts 1:9-11, to be presented before His Father. This followed;

Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Stephen afterwards claimed to see Jesus at the right hand of God;

Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Are you convinced that the Son of God is not the Father, but the Son of the Father?

Janosky:
Solid points well explained from the holy scriptures.

OP, flesh & blood did not reveal this to you, but our heavenly Father did. Matt16:13-17

Haters will attack your person with name calling and sentiments, not refute your scriptural points.
God bless you

Amen. May the Lord give us more revelation about these things and save us from deception!

UceeGod:
But the submission of Jesus to the Father doesn’t come from any inherent inferiority; instead, it comes from the administrative order of the Godhead. A son is always in submission to his father, even if both are “equal” in substance.
Simply put, God the Father will always be God the Father , and God the Son will always be God the Son , and for all eternity they will continue to relate to each other as Father and Son.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

There is no God the Son, but the Son of God. Although Jesus is a God but He has a God. If He has a God that makes Him subject to the Father. The Father is the Source of all things. Yea, our Lord was begotten in eternity, of Who? The Father, Source of all things. He was begotten not created, for He came from God as His Word. The Word was used by the Father in creation, again He was used in recreation of man, to born man again and restore him to all he lost in the fall. Our Lord is a God who has a God. If He calls the Father His God then He is subject to the Father. Can they be coequal, yet One be God to the Other? No.

Hebrews 1:8-9 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

paxonel:
what other manifestation do you want?
Jesus says my kingdom is not of this world. That means, the kingdom of God is right inside your spirit.
The kingdom of God is you yourself as a christian.
who said so?
Did you not read paul saying this?

2 Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise(heaven), and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Words that are not lawful are sinful words, these words were spoken in heaven.
Can you beat that?
you can say that from what you see, but God dont judge from how humans see or experience things. He judged from the spirit.
you dont understand!
This is a parable,
Do you know that the day you die, it will be like the whole world has melted with fire, and every physical thing you see shall be no more?

Thats why he is asking, what manner of person are you while you are still alive.

I change my mind. You are not confused, but deceived.

Worship of The False Jesus of The Trinity


We must make a point clear about the Lord Jesus before we proceed, that He is not the second person of the Trinity nor is the Father the first person, nowhere was He called a second person of trinity in scripture, and that the Trinity doctrine does not originate from God. The religious people of the world believes the Lord Jesus to be equal with the Father. Their unfruitful argument is crushed when we look into 1 Corinthians 15:27-28; For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. If the Son shall be subject unto the Father, then have we been duped by Trinitarians.

If we would look into what Jesus said about the Father, this would solidify our claim. John 14:28; Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. That seems quite obvious. So the crowd says what about Matthews 28:19 and 1 John 5:7-8? After much research we realised that these verses were not in scripture until after AD 300, they were added to strengthen the Trinity doctrine, these are mere interpolations. If the best verses to support such false doctrine were added to scripture does not that make it even more suspicious?

Another stronghold of the trinitarians is found in John 1:1, let us get the true interpretation so we would no longer be tossed about by every wind of false doctrine. John 1:1; In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was (a) God. The confusion for most people often springs up from the "and the Word was God," we would be saved if we had interpreted as "and the Word was (a) God," for the latter is as accurate as the former. Jesus is a God Who Has a God, this is strengthened by Psalms 45:7; Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And also Revelation 3:12; Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. If Jesus was equal with the Father, would the Father be His God?

The trinitarians argue that their god is not three but one, three personalities but one god. If there be three personalities, that simply is three gods. This has led most to serious confusion, some don't believe the Bible anymore because of this fatal error. Is God an author of confusion? Is He willing to befuddle His children and leave them beclouded? No! God never wills to leave us confused, this is why Christ Jesus sent forth the Holy Ghost to lead us into all truth. But trinitarians believe God himself to be a mystery and an author of confusion, and that's not God, but Satan. Another confusion here is about the Holy Ghost. They believe the Holy Ghost to be the third person of the trinity which is another falsehood. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit that fills the Father and the Son, the very life of the Father and the Son, He is often referred to as the Spirit of God. What sort of Spirit is he? A holy Spirit! What sort of Spirit is Jesus and the Father? Holy Spirit! Has the Holy Ghost a separate personality apart from the Father and the Son? For this is the Spirit of the Father, can His characteristics be different from One Who owns Him or from His Source? Herein lies the confusion, the Spirit of God is the complete representative or manifestation of the Father and also the Son. Nowhere did the apostles prayed or sang to the Holy Ghost. Prayers are offered in the Holy Spirit to the Father in Jesus name.

As the spirit in man is subject to man, for the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet, so is the Holy Ghost to the Father and the Son. Saying the Holy Ghost is equal to the Father is the same with saying the Father is equal to the Father. That appears unreasonable of course. For the Father is a holy Spirit! God is Spirit. For the Spirit manifests the persons and presence and power and glory of the Father and the Son. This is why the Spirit is often referred to as an IT, and other times an HE. 1 John 2:27; But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as IT hath taught you, ye shall abide in HIM. HE sometimes manifests the persons of the Father and the Son, other times IT appears as their power, glory and presence. So then who here is still deceived to worship false gods of the trinity? To worship the gods of trinity is to deny Jesus is come in the flesh and that God was not manifest in the flesh. This is the denial of the ages, that righteousness, holiness, godliness is not come in the flesh! The Father is the Source of all things! Our Lord Jesus came to restore us to the Father, not to Himself, even though He is worthy of worship, He humbled Himself before the Great God, the Ancient of Days, that His will might be done. In the power of the Holy Ghost are we to worship God, the Father in Jesus name!

How did Jesus come back? Through the Holy Ghost! Jesus promises that if His followers would obey Him, He and the Father would come and make home in them. In fact, all believers has Jesus living in the through the Holy Ghost. My question is

Christ ascended up into heaven, what year did He descended in such way? Because the angels promised He will come back exactly like that.

paxonel:
relate that scripture to this one and think

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Do you see what i am talking about?

May be i am doing too much talking, but think over these two scriptures and draw out your conclusion lets see

Well, you are very confused because the promise made by the angels was long after the kingdom was established, long after the kingdom came. The angels never said He was coming to seize the kingdom. Bro, ESTABLISHMENT of kingdom is different from SEIZING the kingdom. Christ established the kingdom the moment He resurrected from the dead.

There are three kingdoms, kingdom of the world, of God and of Satan. Satanic kingdom invades ours the moment Adam fell, God's invades ours the moment Christ resurrected. But none has totally subdued the kingdom of the world. Man handed over his kingdom to Lucifer, Christ restores the kingdom to man. But how many has the victory?

Has Christ appeared the way He went up into heaven? and what year did that happen?

paxonel:
All these has been fulfilled, i will tell you how
the man which will rule over the world was the antichrist. He actually ruled the world in the past.
now like at this.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

You will recall that the pharisees denied christ during jesus time?
They even persecute the disciples even after jesus must have resurrected and gone.
What do you call them, are they not antichrist like that?
So these things have been fulfilled.
how do you know that they are antichrist?
Anything can happen in the world, you see things happening co-incidentally dont think they are fullfulment of prophesies.
A lot of things happen by chance.
pesecution of christians have always been there from time immemorial and it wount stop now
what tribulation is that?
Is it the one mentioned in matthew 24?
It happened shortly before jesus was crucified and any of such thing will never happen again.
And guess what that tribulation was?
If i say it here, you will be so marvelled how ignorant we christians have been all these while
you have said it all, dont you understand? ,
Then shall christ appear to reclaim his kingdom on this earth.
This means, immediately after the tribulation christ will appear.
The tribulation occurred shortly before he was crucified,
He appeared on the cross the day he was crucified, he took his glory that very day.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ALREADY ON THIS EARTH RIGHT NOW AS I AM TALKING, WE DONT NEED ANY RAPTURE.
The target is to bring mankind back to glory adam and eve lost in the garden of eden and not to rapture mankind.
The whole world weeped when they saw christ appearing on the cross
but the saint rejoice because their sins have been cleansed. Therefore they are read to endure any persecution for christ.
the martyrs who died in christ will be resurrected just like jesus was resurrected.
and the martyrs will meet their lord in the air!
Now, dont get "the air " wrong ,it means CLOUDS.
Heaven or Gods kingdom was quickly associated to the clouds by primitive people of bible days because they used to think that anything beyond the clouds is heaven.
But this modern day people should know better because we are more educated.
For instance,
Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens
opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Meaning, i see the clouds opened

In summary, THE AIR simply means heaven or Gods kingdom.
And we already know that Gods kingdom right now, is on this earth.

Do you see how the bible can confuse us if we cannot think fast?

Let me stop here,
There are so much to review.
I wish to also talk about the first resurrection you mentioned, although there is nothing like second resurrection, it is second death.
even this new jerusalem is on this earth. There is absolutely nothing rapture about it

Bro, you seem confused. Jesus seized the kingdom after He died and resurrected or after the tribulation?

But the book of Revelation was written about 50 or 60 years after Jesus had ascended. Or you are thinking Jesus seized the kingdom of Israel? You are confusing Israel's history with the world's history! Is AD 70 end of the world?? Has the world ended now? I can't see a new heaven or earth anywhere around here, sir? The tribulation of Israel is the tribulation of the world? I can't see any world ruler forcing marks upon men! I can't see Satan been bound up in the lake of fire, in fact, he runs wide destroying lives! Go study the scripture prayerfully maybe you would see these things. Don't let demon feed you with lies that Jesus had come and gone, now you can live anyhow you want.

Yea. The kingdom is here. But has it manifested fully? No. Brother, understand one thing, when Jesus comes to seize the spiritual kingdom of this world there won't be demons tempting folks to do evil any more. The devil is called the "god" of this world and the "prince of the power of the air" for a certain reason. What could that be? He rules the kingdom of this earth. Jesus came to establish the kingdom of God but it is no fully manifested because evil is still here. A day is coming when this present world shall be destroyed with fire.

2 Peter 3:10-11 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

Then the kingdom of God shall be fully manifested in the new earth and new heaven.

We must be careful what doctrine we accept as truth. Some claim Jesus had already come, ignorant, unstable fellows! Daniel and Revelation are both written for the "end time." How can anyone claim all these things have already happened even when we haven't approached the end at all? Even when the evil doers of the end of days are just taking post? When the whole picture is just coming together? If Jesus had come to seize the kingdom of this earth and usurp Lucifer, would still there be evil out there? No. Go through my previous post, if you believe them not, that's fine. May the Lord lead you to the truth.

paxonel:
All these has been fulfilled, i will tell you how
the man which will rule over the world was the antichrist. He actually ruled the world in the past.
now like at this.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

You will recall that the pharisees denied christ during jesus time?
They even persecute the disciples even after jesus must have resurrected and gone.
What do you call them, are they not antichrist like that?
So these things have been fulfilled.
how do you know that they are antichrist?
Anything can happen in the world, you see things happening co-incidentally dont think they are fullfulment of prophesies.
A lot of things happen by chance.
pesecution of christians have always been there from time immemorial and it wount stop now
what tribulation is that?
Is it the one mentioned in matthew 24?
It happened shortly before jesus was crucified and any of such thing will never happen again.
And guess what that tribulation was?
If i say it here, you will be so marvelled how ignorant we christians have been all these while
you have said it all, dont you understand? ,
Then shall christ appear to reclaim his kingdom on this earth.
This means, immediately after the tribulation christ will appear.
The tribulation occurred shortly before he was crucified,
He appeared on the cross the day he was crucified, he took his glory that very day.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ALREADY ON THIS EARTH RIGHT NOW AS I AM TALKING, WE DONT NEED ANY RAPTURE.
The target is to bring mankind back to glory adam and eve lost in the garden of eden and not to rapture mankind.
The whole world weeped when they saw christ appearing on the cross
but the saint rejoice because their sins have been cleansed. Therefore they are read to endure any persecution for christ.
the martyrs who died in christ will be resurrected just like jesus was resurrected.
and the martyrs will meet their lord in the air!
Now, dont get "the air " wrong ,it means CLOUDS.
Heaven or Gods kingdom was quickly associated to the clouds by primitive people of bible days because they used to think that anything beyond the clouds is heaven.
But this modern day people should know better because we are more educated.
For instance,
Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens
opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Meaning, i see the clouds opened

In summary, THE AIR simply means heaven or Gods kingdom.
And we already know that Gods kingdom right now, is on this earth.

Do you see how the bible can confuse us if we cannot think fast?

Let me stop here,
There are so much to review.
I wish to also talk about the first resurrection you mentioned, although there is nothing like second resurrection, it is second death.
even this new jerusalem is on this earth. There is absolutely nothing rapture about it

And this?


Acts 1:10-11 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Biblically, this is the order of events.

What has been will be again. The 70th week of Daniel is fulfilled, the next event on the world's timeline is the "falling away," then the "revelation of the man of sin" which will rule over the whole world, forcing every man to take his mark. if you look into the world today you will realise that some folks are working toward the one world government and the one world religion, these folks are preparing the stage for the final Antichrist who will glorify himself above everything called "god." The saints will be persecuted, but for an appointed time. When the Lord shall look into the earth and see the evils of men upon His people then shall the tribulations begin. The persecution of the saints will lead to the tribulation of the world. God is able to keep His saints through the tribulations because it comes from Him. Then shall Christ appear with multitude of His angels to reclaim the kingdom of this earth, the world shall weep when they see Christ appear but it shall be a joy unto the saints because they have been persecuted thus far. Then the martyrs who were murdered for the testimony of Jesus shall rise first to meet Christ in the air, then the "catching away" of the saints which sails through the persecution shall follow, to reign with Christ for a thousand years with iron rod. This is the first resurrection. Then shall Satan be released from his pit to deceive the inhabitants of the world after the thousand years, these shall rise against the Lord and His saints but the Lord will destroy them all. This is when the sun will be darkened an the moon shall lose its light, this present world and heaven shall pass away. Satan shall be seized and cast into the lake of fire. Then the dead shall rise, some to life eternal, others to everlasting condemnation. Other believers who were not martyred over the ages nor end time persecuted saints shall rise with this last group, but unto life everlasting. This is the second resurrection. And all who are not found written in the book of the Lamb shall be cast into the lake of fire. The saints shall receive a spiritual body and walk into the new Jerusalem to reign with the Lord forever

Thessalonians 4:13-17
[13]But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
[14]For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
[15]For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
[16]For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17]Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

paxonel:
if you see anything like that, endeavor to read and understand the whole chapter you will discover that he was not in anyway referring to rapture
yes!
They were immediate at the time the prophesies were said and it did not take long for the fulfilment.

For instance, Matt 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

So the generation that crucified jesus did not pass until every prophesies of the bible was fulfilled including that of Revelation.

So, we in this generation we have nothing to be scared of in our future, all we need to do is just live our lives freely.

Yea. Now go back to that scripture and study what follows Matthew 24:34.

The Spirit will be poured out again and again and again and again, until Christ comes. This is called revival.

paxonel:
do you agree with me now that there is nothing in this story appears in any of the scriture you quoted below, therefore the story is false?
what if all these prophesies of daniel and revelation happened at the time jesus died and resurrected about 2000 years ago and not in our future?
Because,
Acts 2:17 says And it shall come to pass in the last days,saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy....
Remember the apostles prophesied and spoke in tongues on that day.
This happened on the day of pentecost about 2000 years ago after christ resurrected and not in anyway our future or present day.

That means the last day was the day of that pentecost after jesus resurrected.

It therefore follows that all these prophesies of daniel and revelation happened within that period, what do you think?

Paul talked about the "catching away."

Every biblical prophecy has an immediate and future fulfillment.

What has been will be again. The 70th week of Daniel is fulfilled, the next event on the world's timeline is the "falling away," then the "revelation of the man of sin" which will rule over the whole world, forcing every man to take his mark. if you look into the world today you will realise that some folks are working toward the one world government and the one world religion, these folks are preparing the stage for the final Antichrist who will glorify himself above everything called "god." The saints will be persecuted, but for an appointed time. When the Lord shall look into the earth and see the evils of men upon His people then shall the tribulations begin. The persecution of the saints will lead to the tribulation of the world. God is able to keep His saints through the tribulations because it comes from Him. Then shall Christ appear with multitude of His angels to reclaim the kingdom of this earth, the world shall weep when they see Christ appear but it shall be a joy unto the saints because they have been persecuted thus far. Then the martyrs who were murdered for the testimony of Jesus shall rise first to meet Christ in the air, then the "catching away" of the saints which sails through the persecution shall follow, to reign with Christ for a thousand years with iron rod. This is the first resurrection. Then shall Satan be released from his pit to deceive the inhabitants of the world after the thousand years, these shall rise against the Lord and His saints but the Lord will destroy them all. This is when the sun will be darkened an the moon shall lose its light, this present world and heaven shall pass away. Satan shall be seized and cast into the lake of fire. Then the dead shall rise, some to life eternal, others to everlasting condemnation. Other believers who were not martyred over the ages nor end time persecuted saints shall rise with this last group, but unto life everlasting. This is the second resurrection. And all who are not found written in the book of the Lamb shall be cast into the lake of fire. The saints shall receive a spiritual body and walk into the new Jerusalem to reign with the Lord forever.

The rapture (as they call it) will happen, but until after the persecution of the saints and the tribulation of the world. Resurrection unto life (first resurrection) and rapture will happen simultaneously. The second resurrection is a resurrection unto judgment. Only the martyrs and the tribulation saints will partake of the first resurrection, and everybody else the second resurrection. If we miss the first resurrection then we must pass through judgment, if our names are written in the book of life then we shall pass unto life. The rapture is a valid event but the dating is always wrong. It will only happen when most of the saints have been persecuted and destroyed, forced to receive the mark of the beast, killed, afterwards the tribulation shall befall the world who have killed God's saints, not the saints. After the tribulation then shall Christ appear. This is the joy of the saints for it is time to seize the kingdom and rule it with an iron rod. There will be a rapture.

End Time Persecution of The Saint — Daniel 11:31-39, Revelation 13, 2 Timothy 3:12.
[31]And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
[32]And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
[33]And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
[34]Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
[35]And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
[36]And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
[37]Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
[38]But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
[39]Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

Second Coming of Christ — Revelation 19:11-16, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17
[13]But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
[14]For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
[15]For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
[16]For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17]Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Revelation 11-16
[11]And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
[12]His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
[13]And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
[14]And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
[15]And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
[16]And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Very funny. These demon-filled dudes sha

omokiri5:
First week of May

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What Self Denial Is Is Not What They Call It

What is Self? What is it that we must deny? This must first be defined. If we don't know what it is that we deny we fall into error of afflicting our self unnecessarily, for self denial should not in anyway be so narrowed down. The Human Self is the center of the man, situated in the soul. The Self is the governor of the whole being, it is all that man is, his personality, character, habits, methods, mentality, desires, personal culture, natural ability, and perception. The Self has forever been the problem in every Christian walk, not sin, for most Christians have conquered sin by faith. If the Self of man is denied for the life of Christ, man will act, walk and live like Jesus. The Self of man decides whether man will obey God in all things or not, it decides what comes into the man and what goes out, it is the vehicle of the man and determines the destiny of man. Men who are governed by this Self tends to uphold their views above other's and will never submit to the truth for their view is perfect according to them, they would rather cater for their personal needs before thinking someone somewhere is almost dead for lack, their person is the center of everything they do, they are extremely self-centered. The seat of man's government is situated at the Self-Center for the unregenerate and believers who have not yielded or surrendered absolutely to the Lord alike, but for true disciples of Jesus Christ the seat of government has been moved into the spirit, heart where the Spirit of God dwells. Hence, true followers of Jesus are never looking to be served, but they would rather serve because they are governed by the spirit.

The command that we must deny our Self cuts directly into the core of our being, for this Self is who or what we are. This is the same with telling us to deny who we really are to have the life of Christ. If any man will be useful for God such must deny himself and let Christ reign in and through him. This Self disrupts or totally blocks off the flow of life to and through us believers, take for instance when the Spirit of God desires to use us to heal a brother through admonition or comfort, because we have had our preconceived ideas, culture, mentality, perception and methods determined or reigning, we block off the ideas and words coming from the Spirit, for these words of life coming from the Spirit holds in itself the healing power to be administered but we shun it altogether because we think our Self to have something better, which is actually ineffective. Most Christians become very useless to God in this regard and many other ways, for men who are dead to Self will receive from the Spirit and deliver that which will save the brother. Let us be aware that denying the Self in us is harder to do than abstaining from sin, this will mark the difference between us and the majority babe Christians out there. If our Self is taken out of the way the life of Christ dominates. If our Self is crucified, the life of Christ flows to the soul and all our departments, and we shall be totally free. This is our only ticket to walking in full spiritual maturity believers. The old man must be put down through denial and the new man put on by faith and obedience. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthews 16:24).

The Self of man has hindered God's work more than the devil over the ages, for the Self blocks the life of God and imprisons it in the spirit, the Self now becomes the source of life for man instead of the spirit, having in mind that the soul of man is capable of counterfeiting the works of the spirit, soul life could also counterfeit spirit's life for the human soul is made in form of a spirit. The man full of Self will distort God's message when he tries to explain or preach it, he will call black white, he will totally turn it upside down, he would preach the gospel either to glorify himself, seek wealth or feed his ego. Sometimes preachers of God's word mixes their Self or soul life with the word of God, what a defilement of the holy! We must return to the cross and seek that the Lord wrought a deeper work of holiness in us! Some believers who are filled with Self hardly gives and if they would give they would do so only to save their Self from guilty conscience. The soulish or selfish man would sell the planet to preserve his sweet feelings, kill to keep his high emotions. Self-ish believers get very sad if unable to give or help the poor, they would do anything to make their Self feel good. Their Self is the center of their lives, not God. If they are not praised or referred to in a gathering they might get a little bit angry within, for they love to be the topic of discussion, or come to spotlight. They hardly weep for the passion of Jesus or they overreact altogether. They always think the whole world revolves around them and everything is for them. They would boast about their strength and ability but when it is time to take action, they melt out. The man of soul has an unstable emotion, he gets disturbed now, few minutes later he is very happy, then few moments after he is sad again. They always think about their Self, not God, not scripture, not anyone but their Self. They hardly forgive because they think every one is obliged to treat them specially. They often speak about their Self, in fact they would go off topic to bring their Self into conversation. They esteem their knowledge above all else's and hardly take correction for everybody else is lagging in knowledge apart from them, they sit at the front in churches that everyone could see them or they rather hide from plain sight due to shyness, they cannot express Christ in attitude or words, they hardly change their mind even when ignorantly falling into a ditch, they hate to serve at church or home for they would rather be served, and they are absolutely useless to God. Every little thing they do is because of their Self. If the Lord shall be merciful to us we shall receive revelation that our Self is more filthy and wicked than sin. Brethren, if our Self is not dealt with by God how can He take us to places? For we shall continue to defile His work with our unclean Self!

What is the cross? God's instrument for dealing with my Self and bringing glory to Himself! The cross is that gentle affliction or simple hardship in the life of a believer which cannot be removed by human hands or power, but by God alone. That's the cross! Every believer has one, big or small, but most fail to maximize it using the opportunity to grow spiritually, and if it has not fulfill its purpose God would never remove it. Some flee from God, others pray that God might get rid of it, not realizing the fact that it was meant to prepare them for God's use and glory. Who will God use? A broken man! A man dead to himself and completely lost in God! Is there a man who desires to be useful for God? Let him deny himself! Self-denial will position him for God's use. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. {16:26} For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? (Matthews 16:25-26). This is more urgent than how most take it. If we try to keep this soul life we shall lose it, and if we let this soul life go we shall keep it unto life eternal. This is the Self life brother Paul spoke about when he said, "my life is hid with Christ in God." For for any man to be useful for God, this life must be denied and hid in Christ that the life of Christ might reign in and through us. For this very purpose has God provided the cross for us believers. Let's get this, brethren! The cross of Christ has two phases; firstly, we are crucified with Christ, in that our flesh and sin has been dealt with on the cross. We are to enter into this reality by faith, believing we are dead to sin and flesh, baptized into the death of Christ. Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him,] that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. (Romans 6:6). Secondly, believing the reality of our death with Christ does not automatically make us be, talk, act and walk like Jesus, we must be crucified daily by the cross through Self denial to get the imprisoned life of Christ out of us, to break the hard shell of Self. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthews 16:24). The first cross has crucified us, the second cross is crucifying us.

Self denial, the denial of my ideas! The man whose mind is renewed no longer distorts the message of the bible nor argues with God, for God's yes is his yes and God's no is his no. His mind is renewed, he has the mind of Christ, he understands every little part of the scripture, he cannot be deceived by lying or prosperity preachers, he is fully convinced of the doctrine of God and can never be misled. He no longer upholds his views but relies on God for wisdom in all things. But how did he arrive at such success? He denied himself! God is so powerful in that the most intelligent of this world are most foolish and ignorant when it comes to the things of God. Graduated from topnotch institutions with great grades did they but subject them to explaining scripture and one would be amazed at how bewildered they would appear to be. Why is this so? For they love their brain so much! They love their knowledge and wisdom, they would never deny this, they are convinced of their ideas, upholds their mentality, cherishes their eloquence, brilliance, perception, knowledge, wisdom, understanding and views, all which are absolute foolishness before God. Men who became apostates over the years were brilliant men who would rather use their brain to understand God's word rather than wait for revelation. If there be a man who desires his mind be renewed let him return himself to basics and deny these things as if he never had them. That a man is eloquent in speech and brilliant in the use scripture does not in any way makes him useful for God, in fact, he is a stumbling block for the spread of the gospel if he ever desires to preach it, for no man can preach the gospel by natural human abilities but by revelation. A man may be of dull memory and zero eloquence, if he has revelation he is more useful to God than the most brilliant man on the planet. If we will glean tightly to our ideas, how shall we then receive God's idea or revelation? Can any man hold two contrary faiths at once? Let the believer deny all these worldly things which belongs to Adam, let him prayerfully pick up his bible and study afresh in all simplicity of mind, let him deny his ideas as if he knew nothing. As he remains in position of denial of his wisdom and interpretation and knowledge and understanding, he shall find that as he moves forward in studying scripture, the Spirit of God shall begin to illuminate his mind and teach him, then he shall wonder at how easy and obvious those things which once appeared extremely obscured are, and he shall very soon find himself teaching others. He shall no longer be confused on decision making, he shall no longer think himself wiser than others for his wisdom comes from Another, he shall think as Christ would in all situations and always carry out the better good. He will never again be confused whether to go right or left for his renewed mind would interpret every message God drops into his spirit, and he will be led by the spirit without much stress.

Self denial, denial of my emotions! Joy of the Spirit is the believer's state of normalcy of emotion. If anyone wander out of this state of joy he is abnormal. This is not the kind of joke some call joy, that makes them laugh uncontrollably like fools, roll on the floor and do all sorts of insane things. What most believers call joy today is mere happiness which lasts only for but a short time, and it slowly wears away. This joy flows from the Spirit as one of its fruit unceasingly, it's always there to be tapped into. It is steady, calm and gives strength, David testified about the joy of the Lord being his strength. Men full of power of the Holy Ghost are often first filled with this heavenly joy. Believers must be aware that the Lord might stir their spirit up sometimes, as Paul was stirred towards against the demon in the little girl, but that doesn't break the flow of joy. (Acts 1:16:18). The flow of this joy is often hindered by the believer when he picks up substitutes such as various worldly entertainments and cares of this world. The flow of this joy is blocked because something else already fills the man. Let us get rid of these things, for they hinder our usefulness for God. If we desire to operate in the joy of the Lord let us deny these things such as extreme happiness or laughter, sadness, intense anger, strife, hatred, bitterness, envy, over sensitivity, and walk in normalcy of mind and spirit. How can we deny these? By cutting our heart and mind off of the affection for things of this present world. If our spirit is out of normalcy it is stirred by the activities of the mind, and already out of fellowship with God. We must keep our spirit in normalcy by avoiding these things that could stir our mind unnecessarily, for the state of our mind reflects the state of our spirit. Entertainment as the world calls it is the devil's substitute for joy of the Spirit, for Satan has a counterfeit for everything that belongs to God. The more joy we have in the Lord the less worldly entertainment we crave. If there be a man who desires to walk in the joy of the Lord he must first deny the happiness of the world, one must be sacrificed for the other. Only if we deny our Self of these satanic pleasures do we have the constant, reliable, free steady flow of the Spirit's joy. When a man is delivered and has joy flowing through his soul from the spirit, such is no longer bound by the ups and downs of emotions, that which caused him or her to be very happy now extremely sad a few minutes later has been crushed, he will no more uncontrollably and often get angry, he will no longer work to suit his feelings or crave for things that will make him happy for the happiness of this world through entertainment and worldly possessions is foolishness unto him, he will be joyous in every circumstances with the assurance that God loves him, he will serve God joyfully not for what he could get from God or to make himself happy but out of a joyful and grateful heart will he love God.

Self denial, denial of my will! The hard willed man changes not his heart after making a decision. He has many plans that he must accomplish. He hardly forgives though he calls himself a Christian. He does not care about what God thinks about his current actions or situation, for God does not matter that much to him. He goes wherever he likes whenever he likes, he studies the bible and prays whenever he wills, he give when he likes, he attends the Christian gathering only when convenient, and he lives his life as he wills. But a will surrendered to and governed by the Spirit of God will be bendable to obey God's will, such will will hardly go astray. Until a man can boldly declare, "I want not my will, let the will of God alone to be done!" He has not denied his will. Men make plans, leaving God out of it, when their plan backfires then they remember God and run to Him to cure the crisis He knew not when it started. Brethren, let us not be like this or walk out of God's will. Let us ask, "Lord, what is your will for me concerning this and that, it is your will alone I want for my life," then the Lord shall lead us safely. If we surrender our will to God, we shall be safe, in fact He would take it upon Himself to work it all out for our good. God seeks to bend many of His children's wills today to will His desire so that He could bless them but most are very boneheaded, hence useless. God has plans for his children but we all want our ways and desires fulfilled, because we will to have cars, houses, wealth, health, fame, good wife or husband, God's glorious purpose for most of our lives have been sacrificed for these things that does not last due to our shortsightedness. Hence, we have many Esau's even this day who would transact the spiritual for the carnal! Let us have in mind that no one is saved until such escapes the corruption that is in the world through lust. (1 Peter 1:4). The glory we would have used in and for the body of Christ sacrificed for mere earthly materials which shall fade away and disappear like the smoke. Brethren, if we desire not to, like Esau, sacrifice our glory in the kingdom of God for foolish things, let us submit to God's will, let Him direct us to the path He has purposed for our lives. For God is perfect, and a loving Father, He will never lead His children into destruction, but to the rivers of living water. If we do not deny these things we cannot be Christ's disciples. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthews 16:24).

paxonel:
very bad argument!
What is the correlation between gay marriage and secular music /movies?
so you by yourself you want to list secular music into the sins mentioned here?
You are such a clown
No go look for handwork do first, make your brain configure to the right order.

Sir, I am not here for this childish play. If there be a person who desires his life transformed, direct such to me. And, I might take the step to report you if you do not cease with this sort of display. Does this look like joke to you? If it does you need Jesus in your life. If the so called youths are not seeing that the church is dying and foolishness is gradually creeping in into the church, who will the Lord send? Old men who shall soon die? What have you gained since you started criticising every truth you see? What's in it for you? I perceive you love this present world so much, you wouldn't even go through the post for the fear that it might expose your folly and your unwillingness to repent. You don't really seem like one who have a relationship with the Lord, just another church goer? Read your comments thus far, Jesus wouldn't say those things, neither would the apostles. When you claim to be a Christian, you soil the name Christianity. Please work on your relationship with Jesus, for you have proved that you lack something significant. If you lack knowledge or revelation about this, ask God to enlighten you and illuminate your mind, not coming off attacking whatever you see. If the Lord truly inspired this post, you should be expecting to get punished for your words thus far, but I will pray for you here. Or do you think i'm one of your fake pastors and preachers who don't know the truth or who are afraid to preach the truth? You people shouldn't incur God's wrath unnecessarily.

When is it ending?

paxonel:
Op, you are a bush man!
Was secular music mentioned anywhere in the bible?

No it isn't. Is gay marriage mentioned in the bible? But it's bad, right?

{5:19} Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these;] Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
{5:20} Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 
{5:21} Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like... (Galatians 5:19-21).

AND SUCH LIKE! There are still many more sins not listed in the Bible.

UceeGod:
God bless you OP for this writeup
The secular world used to be a midpoint between spirituality and carnality, but the secular has disappeared into the carnal world in our generation.
If a believer in this corrupt generation must grow and continue to grow spiritually, he/she must continue to feed on spiritual diets every moment and cut off from wordly affections.
But the "churches" are not helping their members in this regard. Worldliness has influenced the "church" immensely instead of being the other way round.
May God help us all and give us His own desires.

Very true, brother! The church has mingled with the world instead of influencing it, hardly can we differentiate the church from parties. The dressings therein speaks volume! It's hard to look at ladies these days for your eyes might get tainted with what you would see. The true preaching of the word is lost, but we can be very sure the Lord is restoring the church to health and seriousness. They no longer teach us to draw nigh to God nor do they prepare us for the coming of Christ, rather they teach us to make more wealth and get us stuck here on earth. Anyway, the Lord is making His move already and it shall be obvious what He has been doing in secret soon. Thank you brother! May the Lord strengthen us in Him and give us more desire for Him. Amen.

Kaychhriz:
Am Going Through All You Have Written Here, God Bless You For Showing Me The Truth And I Believe It Will Surely Set Me Free

Amen. May God give you grace.

Secular Music And Movies? Not For Disciples of Jesus Christ. This is Why.


Man is made, by God, as a tripartite being, comprising of Spirit, Soul and Body. (1 Thessalonians 5:23). Man's spirit is the inner man, the soul is the middle man or main man and the flesh is the outer man. The Flesh of man helps him to relate with the material world through the senses. The Spirit of man is his organ of Communion with either God or demons. This has about it The Conscience and operates Intuitively. The Soul of man is the Man, contrary to some erroneous belief that man is spirit, man is soul. He, the man or the living soul, either lives by the spirit or walks after the flesh, the spirit and the flesh are both organs for the soul's walk in this life. The Soul is made up of Mind(Brain) and Heart. The human Heart is the seat of man's Will and Emotions, the drivers of man. The Mind of man has two departments, the subconscious mind and the conscious mind.


What man is is what he feeds himself, fact undisputable, in that the heart of man acts on what its being fed. If it is fed with the word of God through meditation it acts on it, the same way if it is fed with satanic information it acts on it. Out of the abundance of heart the mouth speaks, saith the Lord! Not only does the mouth speaks but also does man acts from the abundance of his heart! When the believer listens to worldly music, this is stored in his conscious mind, after a while the information is passed to his subconscious mind and to his heart for it has taken deep root in him. At this stage the believer is in big trouble for the heart is the seat of Will and Emotions. From the information already passed into the subconscious mind and the heart where the Will and Emotions of man lies, man is easily controlled by the party which infused the word. If man is full of Satanic information in his heart he acts on the words and he is controlled or used or guided by demons, many people in this category are suicidal in thoughts and are full of addictions. Most times the mind auto-play songs again and again regardless of efforts to control or Will its stoppage, this is what it means to lose ground to Satan, for he has possessed or gained some ground in such through wrong music and information. The manner with which the Spirit of God uses the Word in the believer's heart to direct him to obedience is opposed to the way Satan uses his own information in men to compel them unto rebellion. Satan forces his words, images and ideas upon men through the eyes, ears and flesh into the mind by deceptions, and compels such to work on them. This accounts for the many suicidal activities out there by believers and unbelievers alike, for the minds and hearts of the suicide have been gripped by demons and they are filled with many wrong information imparted by Satan either through movies or music or through neighbors, however a serious battle must be fought to set such free because Satan already has a stronghold in him.


Some think that they cannot be possessed because they are believers. What a deception! If ground has not been yielded to Satan why do believers then find it hard to control their thoughts at Will? Why is the emotions moved by the slightest change of activity? Very happy now, sad a few minutes later? Get angry when they don't want to? Why does their eyes catches what they desire not to see? Images flashing across the mind randomly? Inability to tame the tongue nor restrain oneself from saying that "word"? Taking an action or saying a word the believer would ask afterwards "did I really said or did that?" Addiction to bad habits? Hearing strange voices in the ear? Don't we still suddenly forget those little but relevant details in our daily walk? Voices in our mind always even when we desire to be silent? Distracted by wrong thoughts during prayer? Listen brethren! The Holy Ghost will not drive out demons nor regain grounds outside of the believer's Will, we must agree and fight with Him. If we do not admit to be possessed, in humility, how can we see the urgency in setting our self free from oppressors? Demons cannot take over our spirit because the Spirit of God dwells therein, but they will for sure seize every opportunity to possess the soul and body. How did we allow them in? The ears, eyes, nose and skin for not being kept with all diligence, as doors to the soul of man, automatically exposed the soul to Satan for attacks. Through wrong music, evil sights, and information ground is lost and man's soul is possessed for their inordinate activities.


The relationship between word and spirit is obscure to many, hence they receives whatever comes, whether music or teachings or movies, inspired by God or demons, they receive. Words carry spirits, spirit is transmitted by word or images. Addiction to pornography serves a good example of them who meditates on wrong materials or information, get possessed and are forced into perversion by the spirits they had received during meditation. As for believers, listening to secular music is like invading enemy's territory unarmed while expecting to get back out untainted and unwounded. If the believer be one who harkens to the voice of the spirit he or she will perceive a sense of defilement within when he or she listens to these worldly songs. Receiving words from the Satanic kingdom is tantamount to receiving spirits from there. Brethren, the adversary, even Satan, has planted his prophets into the music industry to prophecy death into lives. Many have received demons simply because they couldn't keep in check the urge to get entertained. Some believers have even blasphemed God through music and dances, when they speak in blasphemous proverbs, poems and dark sayings, the innocent ignoramus of a believer joins them in rebellion against God.


Why should a believer listen to songs which are not inspired by the Lord? No matter how noble they may sound how would songs composed or movies played by unregenerate souls have any good impact upon our lives when they themselves are in a mess and under condemnation? What can an unrenewed mind produce but the filthy nonsense the world tag wisdom and entertainment? For unregenerate men are as dead dogs before the Father. Why should the believer who is a stranger and sojourner seek entertainment from this world of the dead? For what has darkness to do with light and righteousness with unrighteousness? If the apostles were alive today would they listen to worldly songs or watch their movies? What would they say about the spiritual adultery of this generation of believers? This age has backslidden yet their deceitful hearts confirm within them that they do right, while they are on the broad road that leads to condemnation! Satan's greatest achievement today is making falsehood appear like true Christianity, for true Christianity is all about death! Death to the world, to myself, to my way of life, to the flesh, to sin, and fully walking as Jesus walked after the spirit by the power of the Holy Ghost. Have we not been led to worship woman, love, blessings, nature, money, alcohol through music? Have we not prayed or communed with these demons? We must repent! Why can't believers stay away from Satan and his properties? Befriending the world shouldn't be narrowed down to not being a murderer or thief, for it includes sharing in the culture, ideas, passions and entertainments of the world. Let us know for certain that befriending the world declares us an enemy of God! (James 4:4). Did Christ died that we might get entertained? Or that we might be useful for His glory?! We must quickly make a decision whether to enter into the fullness of life in Christ or get condemned with the world. If there be a thing that does not edify us it sure tears us down! Let us get rid of them all, pick up the Bible and study! What sort of music should the believer listen to? Only songs inspired by the Spirit of God! How do I know a song is inspired by God? The word of God is the lyrics and the Father, God is the object of worship, not man nor love nor money nor sex nor woman nor nature nor blessings nor any other idol, but God the Father! The Spirit does apart from the Word nothing, the music must be filled with the Word of God and must come from a believer.