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Maynman:Even the Bible mentioned more than one Jesus. We know the Jesus we're dealing with. |
Maynman:You can read the Bible for all the references. There were kings, governors as well as high priests mentioned. The matrydom of Jesus' disciples by the Roman government is well documented too. Just search. |
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Maynman:The controversy is not mine. None of us were there when the book was written. Anyone can think what he likes about an even that happened thousands of years before us. People can only speculate and make deductions which cannot tell us the exact position of things. Books are not my hope. Christianity isn't based on nothing physical. |
Maynman:Which 'H' was altered to read 'I' in the text? Anyone inscrbing spurious Greek words on paper just to make a point against the truth is a failure already. The biblical stories of Jesus are dated, include prophecies (some of which have come to pass), contain references to hundreds of verifiable Jewish and Roman figures which cannot be disputed. You have to create hundreds of false personalities and places before this kind of lie can sail through. |
Maynman:You yourself know that scholars are divided on this issue. Some scholars argue that the passage is authentic, others say it's partially authentic while some others allege forgery. Posting pages from just one part of the group to justify such a controversial case only exposes your bias. |
Maynman:I too could make a blog and write down anything that comes into my head. Let the proponents of this theory give us historical texts backed up with archeology with enough external witnesses to support their claims. |
TenQ:My brother, thanks for your discourse on Biblical Jesus but regarding the matter of the losing of the ass colt you didn't do well at all. This is because you deliberately quoted the verse in part without mentioning that the colt was actually released to the disciples by the owners as reflected in the verse that followed. "And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt? And they said, The Lord hath need of him. And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon." (Luke 19:33-35). From the passage, they took the colt away with the consent of the owner[b]s[/b]. The owners were more than 1, yet none of them raised any objection. They freely allowed them to take the colt away. This passage looks as though the Lord Jesus probably had a prior discussion with the owners about the colt, hence its frictionless release to the disciples. Now, on the matter of the plucking of corn from the corn field, you need to understand Israel's law to know what happened in that verse. The disciples did nothing wrong because the law permitted anyone to enter any field and eat anything. The only thing is that, you're not to carry anything crop out of a field that's not yours, however, you could eat what you like while in the said field. When you enter another man’s field of standing grain, you may pluck ears with your hand; but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain." (Deuteronomy) 23:26. That tells you why the Pharisees who were present while the disciples plucked did not accuse them of stealing. They didn't do it secretly but in the open glare of everyone because it was legal. Hope these passages are clear? Now, I don't know why you have issues with Leviticus 19:10. This is the God's law in Israel so that the poor, the widow, the orphan and disabled would have sustenance. This eliminates any need of begging or almajiri system. Those who have are taught to be liberal with their resources and not to be selfish. And for this God promised tremendous blessings. Please kindly state clearly what issues you have with this injunction. |
Maynman:Show me the original manuscript that does not contain the said interpolation. |
Lifestone:You took it out of my mouth! |
TenQ:The major problem with Islam is that Mohammed is the only witness of the things he claimed to see and hear. Even his character didn't bear him any witness. |
TenQ:Hmmmm. |
AntiChristian:Please read again. You're asking the wrong question. |
LegalWolf:I understand my brother. It's just an explanation. Agreeing with it would require a miracle. Thanks for your time. God bless your Soul. |
LegalWolf:Beloved brother, I fully understand your argument. But please understand that I'm not forcing any ideology down your throat as presumed. I apologise if that seems to be the case. However, I'm duty bond to clarify the positions of scripture if I perceive that they've been misconstrued. Now, regarding your response above, I'll like you to remember my previous post in which I clearly stated that the Old Testament events were shadows. This is how it all began in summary. Man fell off with God. God yearned for man's Restoration. He began to execute a plan for complete Restoration. He needed to teach man practically about Himself and how to relax with Him. He chose Israel as a Case Study for all nations to see. Among many demonstrations of His likes and dislikes, He demonstrated His aversions towards sin, and the grievous penalty that follows it. Once the whole demonstration was concluded, he abolished everything and set the Real Body in motion (Like a teacher would erase a board once a teaching is complete in order to give room to notes). Now, the Real Body is that Christ paid for all. This doesn't constitute a moral hazard because this is just the first phase of a new journey. The work of salvation is massive and complete. The process is not physical. It goes as follows for each sinner. 1. A sudden realization of your sinful state, your helplessness and your serious need need of a Saviour. (This is the work of the Holy Spirit. It isn't anything anyone can explain but this is where everyone starts from - both Christians and non Christians. Everyone is a sinner). 2. Genuine repentance. 3. Prayiers and Confessions of sins leading to a state of inner peace. That peace isn't explainable too because it's not dictated by circumstances. A spiritual cleansing takes place at this point. 4. A genuine hatred for sin. This is quite unnatural. You yourself wouldn't know why you now hate sin so much. There's a reawakening of the conscience at this point. You become extremely sensitive to sin and righteousness. When you sin, you immediately feel condemned. (Notice how I responded to you yesterday, and the difference in my communication with you today? After I went offline, I felt condemned for all the filthy words I used during the conversations. I received inner rebuke, repented and behaved differently in spite of all the provocative mentions that filled by dashboard). The rebuke comes from the Holy Spirit who comes to dwell in our hearts after we've been cleansed. He guides us continuously to live righteously. God does all that work in order for us to be worthy of His Presence. However, if we ignore the Holy Spirit's rebuke and continue in rebellion, the verse of scripture below becomes applicable. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? (Hebrews 10:28-29). You'll see how the Old Testament practice in verse 28 was used to explain the 'Real Body' in verse 29. Now when you look at the process above, you'll understand that, not everyone who goes to church, bear a Christian name or even calls himself a pastor is a Christian. A Christian is someone who has passed through those 4 stages above. These 4 stages completely eliminate the possibility of moral hazards. They're not in the power of man. That's why you'll hear it said that salvation itself is a miracle. Yeah, it's a miracle for a soul to be saved. |
LegalWolf:My brother, your conception about God is 100% accurate. He's not subject to laws but the other way round. Please, I want you to understand that the Sin and Soul matter came after God had finished the work of creation. The whole course of nature as well as the spiritual realm have been programmed to operate according to certain rules. If water would cleanse the soul, God would have to change water into a spiritual element but that's not the purpose of water. Sin is a serious issue with God. It isn't a simple matter at all. He made the rule that way because He wanted every sinner to pay a dear price for his sin. So, if you sin, you must pay dearly to be cleansed. Sin is what God hates the most in the universe. Just as in law, the more grievous the offence the heavier the price to pay. This is to serve as a deterrent. If the sin problem is as simple as water cleansing, sin would be attractive to man. Now, God made it that way for a purpose. And when man couldn't pay the price, He paid for man, and drew him to himself. There are several verses to buttress this point, but let me quote one. "For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." (1Cor. 6:20). The price with which we are bought in the verse above is the blood of Christ. It satisfied the terms of our indebtedness to pay the price for sin. To glorify God in your body and spirit is to live righteously. Living righteously glorifies God. Living sinfully glorifies Satan. Regarding my referenced argument with Antichristian, he'll refute my claim if I lied. |
Maynman:Before I answer you, show me the original copy that was not interpolated as previously requested. |
Maynman:People like you argue it citing Christian interpolation. But the argument is baseless. The said early father alleged was Eusebus. Eusebius lived 200yrs after Josephus. The book Antiquities of the Jews have circulated widely before then, tell us how the interpolation was done. The book was translated to Latin and Arabic as well as other languages in its original form before Eusebus was ever born. All translations retain the said interpolation. For us to believe, you guys should produce the 'un-interpolated'text. There should at least be one of them. Or you want to tell me that Christian fathers hijacked the book from Josephus as soon as he wrote it, and then interpolated it before it went into distribution? Produce just one copy to prove the interpolation allegation. |
[quote author=Maynman post=119008072][/quote]Had it been there are no other historic sources outside the Bible, you would have succeeded in misleading gullible people who have not met Jesus. If your assertion was true, the Josephus the Jewish historian of that era wouldn't have mentioned Jesus Christ in his writings |
LegalWolf:Bro, you certainly mistook me for some others who may not have listening ears. For instance, I once argued with Antichristian about Mohammed commanding one of his followers to have sex with a dead woman in her grave. That was how the text appeared literally but when he explained it to my understanding, I told him I now understand, and then, I dropped the argument. Anytime I engage a Muslim, I really want him to clarify his position. I'm not engaging him to mock him or condemn his religion. Far be it from me. If you make it a healthy conversation, I'll follow with reasoning. The only thing I wouldn't like is lying. I do my best also never to lie. If I quote your text out of context, prove it and if it's true, I'll apologise. There are many times Bible verses have been quoted out of context. I prove it without any offence. That way we can both learn and uncover more truths about the paths we're treading. |
LegalWolf:Bro, to understand these things, you need to know that nothing in the Old Testament is literal. God's plan wasn't the Old Testament but the New. The Old Testament was just used by God to teach spiritual truths using physical symbolisms. After God had finished teaching all that He wanted to teach, He abolished everything and set the spiritual cause in motion. Wherefore the law (the Old Testament) was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, (Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament activities are shadows. The New Testament is the Real Body. Israel, I mean the Jews got stuck at the shadows while God had moved on. You wouldn't understand but it's the truth. Even the 7th day rest was a shadow. You need to read Hebrew 4 to understand its spiritual message. Referencing the Old Testament to malign the Almighty God only shows you're ignorant of many things. No Christian would take you serious because those things are shadows. You can't understand these things in just one post. Now, regarding the issue of blood cleansing, as I said it's the law of the universe. God created the world, just as Carl Benz created Mercedes-Benz. If you take your Benz to Carl, and he asks you to bring petrol, you can't blame him for asking for petrol because that's how the car works. It's not Carl's requirement. It's the Car's requirement. It's the law of the Car. Blood is not God's requirement, it's the way things work in the spirit realm. Blood is naturally the soap of the spirit realm. Carl created his car the way he did because that's the only way the car could be created. So, without petrol, the car wouldn't move. Without blood, sin cannot be cleansed. Things are this way because that's the only way they could be made. Sin is spiritual, and it's a matter of the Soul. Sin isn't physical as you may think. Blood is also spiritual. It atones for sins because only the spiritual can affect the spiritual. Water is physical, it can only affect the physical body. It can't wash the Soul. The Soul is more important than the body. It's the one that needs cleansing. The body would return to the soil but the Soul would stand before God for judgement. Ablution can clean the body but it cannot cleanse the Soul. Water is a poor instrument for the Sin problem. There are deeper things to talk about but let me stop here so as not to bore you with lengthy talks. |
LegalWolf:The Old testament is a book chronicling Israel's formation as a nation. Then it includes historical records of their wars and written laws. Every nation fights wars. Those wars are not laws or commandments to Israel. Neither are they to Christians. Israel's laws are contained in the 10 commandments. For Christians, we're commanded to love everyone and be good to all men (both believers as well as unbelievers). "As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith." (Galatians 6:10). "Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men." (Romans 12:17). We were never commanded to kill anybody. Rather, this is the commandment we received below: "Save others by snatching them out of the fire; to others show mercy with fear, hating even the garment stained by the flesh. (Jude 1:23). |
AntiChristian:No bro. Christianity was not created by anyone. It was the people of Antioch who first mockingly referred to the followers of Christ as Christians. |
Teymanhenry:Hello sir, Thanks for the job you do. You're really helping to give hope to the hopeless. Please may I have your contact? I'll like to chat with you in line with the job you do. |
Passpands:Bro, so sorry for your condition. Take heart please. God will give you victory. Please, if you wouldn't mind, I'll like to chat you up if you can give me your WhatsApp. I have some recommendations for you. |
TenQ:Whenever he calls you Potential thief, call him ordained murderer, since his murderous god has commissioned him to kill. |
LegalWolf:I accord respect to everyone in every discussion. Go through all my previous mentions to you. I respected you throughout in spite of all your insults. Yet, you never cease to be vulgar. You said you just started with me? Bring it on. I'll show you that you do not have the monopoly of vulgarity. If you respect, you'll be respected! If you're mentioned in a post, it's because your contributions are respected. If you have nothing to say, simply keep quiet and move on! Other Muslims like you who get mentioned are more well behaved and civilised than you who call yourself a learned person. The 'Quote' and 'Mention' feature on this platform isn't a disservice. Unfortunately for you, you cannot stop anyone from mentioning you because it's not illegal. Those who mention you break no rules. |
LegalWolf:The day you realise that blood cleansing for sins is a law of the universe and not the requirement imposed by God, you'll understand. |
MaxInDHouse:Don't mind them. Their evolution therory has so many flaws but they deliberately turn a blind eye because they don't want to be answerable to God. But, they forget that their ideologies do not erase His existence. |
LegalWolf:Your god and proohet would be insulted including you if you insist on insulting others! Now, tell us what good thing your god and prophet has done to the world for which they deserve to be honoured! |
TenQ:I can see. He has no answer to so many questions regarding his god, yet, he keeps following with zeal. He then turns around and call those who have answered all his questions about Christianity, fanatics. Isn't that an irony? |
Maynman:I'm not here to discuss evolution. You're still denying the title of the Science Daily Post? |


