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Ok, i think i just heard it too from BRILA FM that Siasia has been employed, but is NFA that daft? why would they say Today is only for interview, then end up announcing the verdict today? they said 8th, who told them to say 8th before?


Anyways congrats to Siasia, but you better watch your back, those who are praising you today are ready to eat you raw when things fail to go your way, BEWARE OF NIGERIAN FANS.

[quote author=so_na link=topic=542292.msg7079506#msg7079506 date=1288892118]Honerico1

why u dey lock the siasia appointment thread na? The news is all over, just manage open those threads please. SIASIA has been appointed, confirmed on brila fm , all the ex-internationals that were campaigning for keshi don dey change mouth.

I AM SO HAPPY[/quote]there's no confirmation yet, my radio has been on brila since, so until there's a confirmed source, i am not permitted to allow such threads to stand, by the way NFA said it's until 8th before the new coach is announced.

semid4lyfe:
Ok. . .I don hear. Na wetin you dey always talk be this

but am i lying?

semid4lyfe:
Shuo! wetin carry b.ball enter footie matter? . . .anyhow sha, I know about their b.ball team but I haven't seen them play. They are even right now along with Royal Hoopers of Port Harcourt representing Nigeria & participating in one West African Basketball Club Tournament like that.

Yes! Yes! Thank you jare. . .na im name be that. . .Ogaga Ogaga. Fantastic Player he is. . .but sadly he won't win you the league

Yes, i had to mention that for you to know that they are not just into football, they have a basketball team too, now do you see how "organized" they are

Well i want a competitive league, that's all i need and i am glad there are up to 8 clubs that are likely to win the league.

medjai:
Wow! I didnt know Okpako has left Pillars. There's this guy that plays on the right for Pillars, Shehu Shagari, he is a very exciting talent and a bright prospect for the future

Yes Shehu Shagari, another good player, they have one Amodu too i think, they have alot of Nice/fast players, i love that club but not as high as Insurance of Bini with the newest stadia in Naija

^^^^

I think it's true, heard it on brila fm too.

God!!!

Tufiaka, i reject and rebuke bad mother-in-law!!!

What's all these? where's your source? the result is yet to be released until November 8th. LINK?

semid4lyfe:
Lol. . .to be fair, I don't think you watched that particular match cos I remember I came gloating after the match and you said something like you didn't watch the match and that next season dey.

You know se nothing for K.Pillars this season sha? No Solomon Okpako, No Ahmed Musa. . .shey that im hausa strike partner (I don forget im name) still dey sha?

Yes didn't watch the live match but i watched the replay, even if they don't have the names you listed, they still have other players, their management and structure is well in place, they are the most organized in the whole of the league, have you seen/watched their basketball team play before? they have won the Nigerian basketball league 3 times in a role.

by the way, Ogaga is still with them sha!

RSA:


One day is one day

One day na one day (2040)

johnie:
We used to do that in my house too

Where did you guys get the tapes ( ) of those matches. I would loved to get my hands on them!

I remember Tolu Fatoyinbo and Emeka Odikpo also.

What happened to Nigerian football?

Contact NTA, they have some of the tapes

semid4lyfe:
Hehehe. . .I watched that Enyimba vs K.Pillars game and I still recall the goal he scored against them.

He scored the winning (2nd) goal when scores were still tied at 1-1 by dribbling the pillars goalkeeper in a one-on-one and slotting the ball into an empty net.

I recall pillars vociferously protested the goal claiming it was offside and play only resumed after about 5 minutes.

The guy reminds me of Muri Ogunbiyi . . .very petite but skillful.    

Honeric, you suppose know the guy nah

Na the problem of Naija be that. . .everybody wan be footballer, not that I blame him afterall na footie money dey for here. Dude should have taken to basketball or volleyball instead with that kind of 6ft4" height

Anyway, height is a good natural attribute/asset of a goalkeeper. The other goalkeeping stuff can be learned & improved upon with training. I hope he gets enough games with heartland cos he'd need  
them to improve and the worst thing that could happen to a goalkeeper is sitting perpetually on the bench.

Never knew until now that Solomon Okpako is now in Greece.

Anyway, is he Nigerian or Camerounian?

I still recall this dude from that 1st Oceanic Football show. I'm happy he stopped playing "jeun jeun" football and is now playing professionally.

Nor be yam to be signed to a play for a club in the pro-league.

I know some of them but not all, yes Joseph is not a Nigerian IMO.

I didn't take notice of that guy you said plays like Ogunbiyi.

semid4lyfe:
Yeap. . .5 goals now and highest goal scorer.

Guy, today's match nor easy o. Those South Africans have seriously upped their game and they really meant business today.

Today's victory was due to the individual brilliance of Perpetua Nkwocha. It could have ended 2-0 if not for the foolish referee that manufactured a "freekick out of no where" for the South Africans which they dully converted.

Anyway, we're already in the Semi-final and should meet one of Ghana, Equitorial Guinea or Cameroun but the Falcons need to be more mobile, put the ball on the ground & string passes together as opposed to the police football they played today and be more clinical in front of goal if they hope to go beyond the Semi-Finals.

Coach Uche Eucharia has her work cut out for her.

Well, maybe they wanted to respect them? anyways i know we are going to win the cup.

yomola:
honeric01

In Nigeria, In my opinion, Coaching the National side is way easier than coaching a club, why? You get to select the finest of Nigerians from ANYWHERE IN PLANET EARTH!

Its more of  having the guts to try new ideas, players, tactics and saying no to negative influence especially from the NFF

Whereas in clubs [In Nigeria lest you forget that i am not talking about the world ] where players are rarely paid on time, Coaches need money to source for players

In heartland, Siasia had to make do with what he had, until recently he was stuck with A LOT of crappy players. He hasn't had the resource to impose his style on the team yet.

Even the Special one knows that when you get to a new club you need to do a sort of overhaul {buy a couple of good  players, say bye-bye to 'legends' }

He knows that to stay spectacular and acheive IMMEDIATE results, you need a harness a bunch of spectacular individuals.

The million dollar question is: Can Keshi say no to NFF player imposition?
From my assessment of him on supersport  during the world cup, My answer is an emphatic NO!


There is nothing more annoying than denying a man deserving of a promotion his promotion.

Keshi knows he has done wrong by contending with Siasia, he is also aware [even if he may not admit it] that the majority prefer Siasia
What he doesn't know is that if he gets this job, like Amodu, Nigerians will be on his neck and bay for his blood each time he loses.

Why? Because he is not their choice

You said in your opinion, so i won't argue with you because i know fully well that getting a player in the league is the easiest, you don't have to pay to get players if you truly believe in raw talent, all you need is to throw a free camp, let people come in, then pick whoever you want, try them for a while and if you are satisfied with them you can as well sign them.

So i totally disagree with your opinion.


You don't need millions to source for players in the Nigerian league, ask Kadiri Ikhana and co, please stick to what you know, don't come and tell me about the Nigerian league abeg.

Didn't he watch the club's tape before picking up the job? the same crappy players got to the final of the CAF champions league, they only lost the cup to TP mazembe with a lone goal (own goal), the same tp mazembe without their 2 prolific players beat Micheal Emerano's tunisian club 5: 0 of recent. If they are that bad, they should have been beaten since, the same players beat Kano pillars 4:0, even Enyimba can't beat Pillars 4 : 0, Pillars once beat Enyimba 2:0 in this same year.

Like i said, i don't think you know heartland, they were not a bad team when he took over, he took over because the management of the team sacked the coach, they said he's instructing the players to go on strike because the players were being owned. They were not a bad team before he took over.

You cannot conclude for Keshi, he's yet to coach the team, why then are you concluding for him? if he gets the job, let's see what he's likely to do with the team, if he plays players we all know should not be there, we will all be here to talk, so abeg whoever gets the job, fine by me as long as they are both Nigerians.

Nothing is going to stop me from praising you, in joy and in tears!!!

[quote author=so_na link=topic=542292.msg7076836#msg7076836 date=1288869163]I am not really judging keshi by his 2001 performance, but only used that to make it very clear to those saying siasia has only coached age grade teams, as the seem to be saying age grade coaching is easier. So my point is that when keshi attempted the u-20 he fumbled big time.

Now talking about recent performance keshi qualified togo for WC and that is the last good thing he did, becuase in the nations cup in egyt that same year, he fumbled big time. Please dont tell me qualifying for nations cup is an achievement to MALI.

Siasia on the other hand made it to the final of olympics in 2008 with unknown boys. He was rated the 15th best national team coach in the world that same year. He was ranked alongside other senior coaches like hassan shehata, guus hiddink etc .

Fifa technical report on the coaches of holland u-21 in 2005 named siasia the shrewdest coach of the entire competition. you think say na moimoi?[/quote]your former ID has been released!!!

When he attempted the U-20, it was an era where most African countries used their main national teams (infact some of them used players older than those in the national team), so i can't really use that to judge him, that's 9 years ago, the importance we placed on age grade then was not that high like of recent.

Yes, qualifying for the Nations cup is an achievement, if not, why are we sad that our home base eagles didn't qualify for the upcoming home base nations cup?

As far as i am concerned, Mali didn't do bad in the last nations cup, they were hedged out of the tournament for some silly rules by CAF, they had more goals than Algeria, Algeria scored just one goal in 3 matches, we saw what Keshi did with his sub (especially against Angola).

Siasia made to the final of the Olympics with what? did i hear you say "unknown boys"? who on the list is unknown? please educate us (i don't want to talk about their ages for now). because he was rated among the other coaches, does that automatically translate to Gold medal? on that same list you posted, some of the coaches on that list are currently jobless or coaching some unknown country/clubs out there, if they are that good, why are they jobless? if Siasia is that good, why is it that Heartland is the only club that came to ask for his services? At least 2 countries solicited for the services of Keshi, why is Siasia's own different?

I know for a fact that if Keshi does not get the SE job, he won't be jobless for 6 months before getting another job from another COUNTRY (not waiting for some under age coaching job from the NFA).

FIFA named him the shrewdest in 2005, what did that bring to his table? 5 years after, he's yet to land any meaningful coaching job, if he's that good, there are countless coaching job he should have taken up, why is he yet to take one up? (5 years now, always going for some under this or under that, you see why some veteran coaches keep calling him a baby coach?)

who get that hand?

semid4lyfe:
Honeric, see your life. . .you argue so tey spambot do you strong thing

the thing no dey fear face at all


@na_so
you have been freed too oo, thank me sha!

yousouph:
Game over. 2-1. Nkwocha 5 goals in two matches

Highest goalscorer right?

yomola:
@honeric01

First of all, Our greatest achievement is Atlanta 96! Fill free to create a poll to find out.
Second, Don't compare the manner of love most Nigerian fans have for Siasia with that that the Argentines have for Maradonna
I love Siasia for his discipline, self confidence, and his achievements,
You may say he used over-aged players but it was his tactical acumen that took him to the final.

I see that you root for Keshi, Have you heard him speak? Please do and rate his brilliance on a scale of 1 to 10

Like i said earlier on, it does not matter what some nairalander thinks of the Olympic medal and the nations cup, it's what is official, when going for the Olympic, it's not mandatory for clubs to release their players, but when it comes to the Nations cup, it's MANDATORY, you see the difference?

The love Argentina has for Maradona supersedes all the love some Nigerians have for Siasia, i am yet to see the church built for siasia or where siasia is worshiped, even with the drugs and bad life Maradona is known for, his lovers still don't care, what kinda love for a man can surpass that?

The same tactics that showed in the match against 10 man Germany in Egypt 2010?
The same tactics and acumen that showed against Alhaly both in Nigeria and Egypt?
The same tactics and acumen that showed against KS kabily in the CCL?

Abeg don't get me started, i hate pointing out the errors from coaches, but when someone tries to rub it off my face, i won't hesitate to point them out.

Not to forget Karlika his dutch mercenary always besides him anywhere he goes. (haven't seen the guy with him since he took over heartland and we can all see the result)

yomola:
@honeric

And may i add that the present coach of Argentina will achieve great things because he groomed most of the boys that are now in the national team.

May i reiterate that we don't just love Siasia for loving sake.

Keshi is not just the Shizinit right now

It's not about what people think/feel, it's about what it is, officially, the Nations cup is more important than the gold medal from the Olympics.

Because he groomed some of the boys, does that then make him an automatic good coach? we are will know after he plays 10 matches, for now it's too early to say he will achieve great things just because he groomed the boys.  football and coaching is more than just grooming your boys, you need the "coaching skills" to make these boys become world beaters

  You cannot compare coaching players that are yet to see money to when they have started seeing money, these are 2 different things.


Well you have to let any of them handle the national team first before you count your chicks.

All the records Siasia has with SENIOR teams has been kinda poor, so when it comes to the senior level, i am yet to see any achievements.

senior levels eg

Ocean boys
JUTH
Heartland

  His handling of these 3 clubs is not worth talking about, very piss poor.

Alot of Nigerians don't know much about Keshi, so it's easy to discard him, but few people who knows this man have already contributed on this thread. Anyways, like i said whoever takes this job's going to have my respect.

^^^^

  It didn't occur to you that maybe the writer made the mistake? there's nothing new when it comes to news about age cheat in Nigeria, so why make it sound as if it's my "huge" news? who in this world does not know Nigerian footballers lie with their ages? even Sepp Blatter knows that, why not fault him for keeping quiet?

[quote author=na_so link=topic=542292.msg7070620#msg7070620 date=1288790581]My friend will you learn to relate things properly before i lose my temper?

Maradona is loved in argentina becuase of what he did in his playing days. No remarkable coaching achievement. Siasia is wanted by most nigerians becuase of his coahing achievements.

Till date our biggest achievement in soccer remains the football gold at atlanta and the bulk of players that achieved this were already SE players. Siasia came within touching distance of equalling that record with largely unkown boys in football circles. so what are you talikng about?[/quote]Mr man, you better let the thread dey flow the way it's going so far before coming up with your "usual" losing temper rant? if you come lose your temper, wetin you go do? the worse is to break your keyboard, monitor, slap your wife/kid/brother/sister or anyone/anything close to you (no pun intended, just stating the outcome of your normal lose your temper motto).

Now, let's concentrate on your 2nd paragraph, when you said coaching achievements, this leaves me with some concern, coaching achievement in what sense? 2 silver medal at the U-20/U-23 YOUTH tournament ([size=2pt]obviously went with A-25 players[/size]), is that what you call achievement when it comes to handling the SENIOR NATIONAL TEAM?

The biggest achievement in soccer is not the Atlanta 96, it's an age group tournament Mr man, even the nations cup is more standard and highly rated than the gold medal we won at the Olympics, yes when it comes to football, the Nations cup is more important than the Olympic gold medal.

Now, before we enter into proper discussion, can you please remind us the name of the coach that won us that gold medal at the Olympics?

semid4lyfe:
Jeez! C'mon mahn. . .are you kidding me or what?

I say Keshi is an "egunje" collecting coach and instead of denying it outrightly you say something akin to "what of Siasia?/isn't siasia one too?" which is a tacit admission of my accusation and you dare question my comprehension ability? Some people sha. . .SMH

you are trying to get me into those long argumentative story story abi? hehehehe, well i know you have comprehension mind, so i want to give you the benefit of doubt.

this statement "so you are trying to say Siasia did not collect "egunje" from those boys (overaged) he took to various tourney? you better let the sleeping dogs lay." is not accepting nor denying anything, it's only suggesting that "if you think Keshi collects "egunje", then what makes you think Siasia is not also collecting", hope this explanation helped or do you want private lesson?

semid4lyfe:
Ok sir! Just se make we nor do ping-pöng enter page 2, make we die the matter for here  

Adios!

see your head like undone akpu roll.

All i have to say is THANK YOU JESUS!

yomola:
Thank you, O! Was he not the man in charge when they beat Spain 4-1 recently? was it 4-1?

And how does that make Siasia better than Keshi?

Is Maradona better than Siasia or Keshi? yet he was appointed because the fans loved him, the fans were clamoring for him, what was the outcome of Maradona's appointment?

He looks like Agbo goes to school with that hair

semid4lyfe:
Unfortunately, I don't have a 78" LCD TV but[b] I promise you I won't step foot into this section again if that happens [/b]

If i ever see you in the general sport section when he's finally made the coach, i will forever haunt you like a leece on a dog! your word is your bound

semid4lyfe:
Thanks for admitting Keshi is corrupt

You can do better than that, what happened to comprehension?

^^^^^

We know this before, come up with another line.

Thanks

Shinor:
Thanks honeric01.
Been waiting for such news. Its about time we started to talk about our own.
We don't have to wait for the big newspapers/ TV channels. We can do it starting from NL.
When I see the way our people worship managers like Arsene Wenger I am at a loss.
His style is not new neither is it revolutionary.
The late Abdullahi Bebe who coached Stationary Stores to League victory in 1991 adopted the same style.
Starved of transfer funds, he opened the doors to young players such as Akeem Ogunlade who at 18 was one of the youngest if not the youngest to captain a league winning side in our footballing history.
It's about time we celebrate our own.
With all the noise about a collapsed economy in Zimbabwe, the local sides such as Caps United still draw a full house whenever they play. And yes they watch the EPL in Zimbabwe.
Same thing in Kenya. There's still major rivalry amongst the local sides despite the large following generated by the EPL.
Even the EPL is not perfect. It took over 100 years of football in the UK to get to where they are today.
Let us start restructuring our football.
The change that we all talk about, that we all so desire, starts with YOU.

I tire too oo, it's only on the international football club you see most of the users of this forum, most of them hardly visit the local scene except when they want to come and criticize or abuse Nigeria and the setup.

Maxidoe:
Na wah oh Naija we would never change, check out, he is 25 years old and now a set up of the Nigerian under 20

Out of the whole post, na wetin your eyes see be that? always looking for loopholes abi? some Nigerians sha!