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Hehehehe, this U-17 are even [b]older [/b]than the u-20 facially!!!

^^

Ok!

manny4life:
You and your cohorts on here at least that's what I've deducted so far. You guys are saying for the price of items including food, there was no way no one lived under $1 a day. On that note, I rest my case unless otherwise.

, do i need to pay attention to you

Sagamite:
Whether they pay monthly or bi-annually where do you think the fund will come from?

If they pay quarterly, don't you think they will have to save up to pay it?

Now what is the population of civil servants?

About 1m? Is that not one of the most desirable jobs in Nigeria?

Are you saying those that desire the civil service jobs are actually making more than the civil servants, albeit the civil servants can make extra money on the side?

My friend, most people make less than the salary of a civil servant in Nigeria.

I have a relative that lives in Lagos that earns N13000 a month. I have a friend that makes N18000 a month outside Lagos and feeds a family of about 10, albeit, his mom and sister can make an additional N7000 a month through small trade and work.

Please tell me how many Nigerians load their mobiles every day.

Please do. I don't know them except they are the middle class of Lagos and even those is like every 3 days. Most I know in Nigeria mostly text.

What proportion of Nigerians load their mobiles everyday?

You must be having a fcking laugh if you think for one second that some Yaro Yaro in Zamfara spends N15k a month on food.

How many 18 year olds have steady income in Nigeria? And the girls are not married off by this age?

You mean like the income of the girl that works in the "supermarket" (as corner shops are called in Nigeria  ) that earns N6K a month? From which she has to eat and transport herself? No wonder the girl is always sleeping. Wey the energy?

I have just discovered your problem, the names of these areas make you think they live on trees or that they bake mud for bread, infact i just think i am wasting my time trying to convince you that 70% of Nigerians don't live less than $1 a day.

I can't continue with this endless typing, it's Monday and i should start my Monday on a fruitful course!

manny4life:
No doubt that Nigeria changed but change wasn't much. That has been my point all along, and yes I have done my research[b] it's you guys telling me no way people live under a $[/b]1, and I'm telling u that people do based on the Nigeria's output so far. Again Nigeria has changed, but the change isn't SIGNIFICANT, in fact, it was not until about a year and half ago that NIGERIA experienced an economic boom which shrunk a lil this year on is on stable growth. If my memory serves me correctly, current economic forecast/prediction using the rule of 70, that Nigeria would grow and double her GDP by 2020; more than any other African nation.

My point is Nigeria has yet to experience growth and a real economic "BOOM".

What are you saying? who said no Nigerian live below $1?

Sagamite:
I advised you on this earlier:

This is what I said:


So Nigerians don't pay for transport, they don't pay for clothes, they don't pay for school fees, they don't by goods and repair them etc?

That is why I said average.

You maintain that the average Nigerian family spends N30K per month on food only?

I am even being lenient as the average Nigerian family is over 5 (parents and 3 kids). It is more like 7 or 8.

Mate, when professionals that work for NIGERIAN govt, talkless of world bank, are doing stuff like this, despite any errors it will be across geography.

Bro, it's late here, i need to head to bed, but before i do that, let me say :

They pay for transport and all that, don't get me wrong, Here in Nigeria, some part pay house rent yearly, some quarterly, while very few pay monthly, so the issue of paying house rent from the monthly income can not really be discussed here.

So you actually think a basic salary of 7000-15,000 naira (civil servant) can actually do all these? clothes,school fees, buy goods and repair them etc? you think so?

Now, that's where you're getting it all wrong, Most Nigerians don't have one source of income, most homes all over Nigeria have more than 2 sources of incomes (except the unemployed/sick/extremely poor ones).

Do you know how many Nigerians use cellphones? do you know how many of them load their phone daily? someone who spend below $1 per day on feeding cannot use/maintain a phone in Nigeria. more than 68 million Nigerians use phone, this number is only for those that registered their lines (google it up yourself, do the research bro).


An average Nigerian spend between 15k-30k per month on feeding (5 persons), i already did the math for you.

Most homes with 7-8 family size have some of their ward working on their own already, a Nigerian as young as 18 is already bringing money home to the family through casual jobs and all that, some of them don't even eat at home, rather they give to their parents. (Nigerian mentality, big boy/girl mentality).

yes, i strongly fault those "professionals" that came up with the 70% stat, 10 years ago? maybe debatable, but 2010, still 70%? that's absolutely rubbish (with all the urban migration that has happened so far).


See, i can't continue typing, i am too heavy to continue, my eyes wan close

And if you lot think Nigerian civil servants actually live only on their take home salaries, then you can believe anything!

manny4life:
@honeric01


You said you have been seeing this stats since like 10 years ago, someone on here mentioned the "rule of 70", how much do u think Nigeria as a nation has grown? I mean give me real numbers, then tell me what % of growth has increased since ten years ago.

Hehehehe, see questions, do i have to answer that? i think you should do the research yourself, then come back here, tell us what you were able to get from your research.

Is Nigeria of 2000 still the Nigeria of 2010? did it change or not? for better or for worse? give us honest answers yourself.

Sagamite:
So you are still maintaining that the average Nigerian family spends N30K on food only?

Where did you get your figures from?

Given that in the richest nations, families spend about 10% of income on on food.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july192006/food_prices_71906.php

And this proportion increases as we go up the less rich countries, it will be conservative to say that Nigerians spend 40% of their income on food.

So are you telling me that the average Nigerian family in ALL parts of Nigeria makes about N75K a month, that is N900K a year, that is about £3900 per year?

Hehehehe, so because that site stated that rich nations spend 10% of their income on food, that means Nigerians should also spend 10% on food too right?

Maybe you are missing this, NIGERIANS don't play with food, WE prolly work because of Food, that's like 60% of the main reason why Nigerians here in Nigeria work, FOOD FIRST, any other thing come after that.

So it takes a Nigerian in Nigeria to understand this analogy, ask Nigerians in Nigeria (Average Nigerians) what they think about food and you'd be surprised at the response you'd be getting.

I had an exception in my comment, except you want to ignore that part, I didn't say ALL, i said except the poor (extremely) poor ones can be said to be living below $1 per day.

within 15k-30k worth of food per month, that's what a family of 5 often live on (Of course, some family buy in bulk, thereby spending less to get the same percentage of foodstuffs), don't tell me the stats you are quoting got their data only from the urban areas, because you'd ask you to post the places they went to conduct the research for all to see, and not just that, also how many of these urban places they went to.

Is Galaxy not a clear station in your area?

luvhenry:
Which galaxy, d one dat is clear abi wey rain dey fall 4 screen

Galaxy TV

Food prices in some part of Nigeria are more expensive than what they sell for in Lagos, states like:

Bayelsa
Delta
Port Harcourt
Abuja

Just confirm, it's very easy to do, you have people out there, ask them how much food stuffs go for.

tensor777:
I am aware of what is on your list but the point is that at least in the villages items like processed cassava meal (gari, eba, fufu), palm oil, bushmeat and vegetables are cheap and readily available

This is not the case for items like rice and tinned tomatoes which are mostly imported and hence relatively expensive.

I already made provision for those ones, the prices i quoted covered the urban areas too, if you think i am wrong, ask anyone from [b]any [/b]part of Nigeria how much a derica of rice, bean, garri cost, then get back to us with the price and where in Nigeria the person reside.

No food item on my list is mostly imported, we all know Rice is 95% imported in Nigeria, that does not stop both the rich/poor from eating it.

Sagamite:
Now factor in how many days each will last you.

And I assume you realise you just put Lagos prices there?


Are you having a laff?  

Every family of 5 in Nigeria spends N30K per month on food?  

In a country where even those in the city earn about N30K a month? But people spend this on FOOD ONLY in Nigeria?  

Where did you get your figure from?

As I said, even the figures are not accurate because of complex informal sector, 70% live on what is not far of that figure.

Apart from the oil (bottles) i quoted, the rest are what 1-2 persons consume in a day, a derica of garri can only feed 1-2 persons, for the rice, it will feed 2-4 persons.

The soup surely will reach 2-3 persons too, so if you calculate what you'd have spent at the end of the day, it will be running into 800 naira for 2-4 persons.


THAT'S NOT A LAGOS PRICE, i have already told tensor777 to confirm these prices with anyone living outside Lagos, anywhere in Nigeria, just confirm how much these items cost, then get back to us.

Yes, a family of 5 in Nigeria spend between 15-30k on feeding per month, how they get the money is what i call the Nigerian spirit, now a days, both parents work and apart from working, they have other source of income (thrift and contribution), you just won't understand what Nigerians can do, THE PASTORS WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE'S MONEY IN NIGERIA, if you doubt me, just look around these "poor" areas, churches are springing up and down, Banks, now you'd begin to wonder how possible it is for churches and banks survive if their potential customers live below $1.

I can't believe this, GALAXY actually showed the match while i was busy watching Martina family dance hall

Hehehehe, this is getting interesting!!!

tensor777:
Since when were items like rice, maggi cubes and tinned tomatoes a STAPLE part of the diet for most rural dwellers in Nigeria?

Oh, you think they chew sugarcane every day? or they drink koko all day long? people like you still think Nigerians who live in other parts of Nigeria apart from Lagos live on trees, eat unripe plantains.

I didn't include any tin tomatoes on my list, i only listed what 99% eat on a daily basis. If you don't eat rice, you will eat Garri/eba/fufu

Sagamite:
Sorry, where do you get your stats from?

You claim you are not using city stats?

You keep on missing the point being given to you about evn if someone makes N2000 Naira a day, what is profit and how many mounts does the profit have to feed.

I pretty much sure that your N500 figure is one of your conjectural fallacies that will break under testing because I can cook a pot of Efo Riro soup for 2 for less than £5 in London.

Leaves: 3 for £1.
Plum: 2 for £0.8.
Palm oil: Bottle £2.50, I will use a fraction, maybe £0.50
Meat: £2 worth will last 2 a week.
All other ingredients (salt, maggi, onions, tatashe, ata rodo) will be fractions used. Maybe max £1.

Remember Nigerian ingredients should be more expensive in London than Nigeria. So to tell me that MINIMUM pot of soup in Lagos (I forgive you for saying Nigeria) is £2 or £2.50 is pure fallacy.

Hhehehehe, now, let me take you on a roller coaster ride.

Vegetables go for 50 naira per chunk (only for 2 except mixed with a cup of egusi)
P.oil is between 150-200 naira per bottle (u need 1/8 of it to cook 1 time soup which goes for 20-30 naira)
G.oil is between 180-230 naira per bottle  (Anywhere in Nigeria, if you have a different stat, you can type it here)
A kilo of fish starts from 200-500 (Anywhere in Nigeria)
Maggi is between 2-3 10 naira, knowe goes for 10 for 1
salt sells for 10 naira ( the unbranded ones)
Egusi between is 30-80 per cup (Anywhere in Nigeria)

A derica of rice goes for 100-150 anywhere in Nigeria
Beans goes for 70-120 per derica
garri goes for 60-120 per derica (to make eba with that, it's only for u)
Kerosene sells from 60-100 per bottle (for cooking soup, rice/eba and might be enough to warm the soup later in the day).



the list goes on, so let me stop here, to prepare a soup, you'd have spent up to 500 naira on soup alone.

A family of 5 spend more than 1,000 naira a day on feeding anywhere in Nigeria, except the extremely poor ones which i can't say don't exist, but to say 70% of the WHOLE population spend LESS than a dollar a day is unrealistic and barbaric from all point of view.


Back to these questions, i need answers to them, don't ignore them:

we have 36 states plus Abuja making it 37, are you trying to tell me that an average of 1.5 million people from these states do not spend more than $1 a day (feeding?)

infact, i am wasting my time, because the WB said it's 70% (I HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS STATS SINCE 10 YEARS AGO, YET IT HAS NOT CHANGED), does that make it true?

Answer me, do you mean in the past 10 years, 70% still spend less than $1 a day? Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided (put inflation and all that in view).

chelseabmw:
did u read my reply? i said after 2007
na wa oo

I asked you again, since that same 2007/2008, has Everton achieved half of what Fernabache achieved within that 3 years?

If they like let them lose, if those small girls beat them, i go show them pepper

Sagamite:
Honestly honerico, you need to start reading people's posts and consuming and ratiocinating the content before giving a counter.

How many times do we have to tell you that you should stop using your myopic view from city to judge for the whole of Nigeria?

That is like using London to judge cost of life in Haymarket village or Montrose in Scotland.

You think it is the same cost of N500 is the same in the villages around Mubi or Otukpo? They will STARVE to death if cost of food is that high there.

MOST NIGERIANS DO NOT LIIIIIIIIIIIIVE IN CITIES. They are rural. STOP using city life as your judgement tool.

4 Play:
I have used 2 independently verifiable data - Nigeria's estimated GDP and population - to arrive at my conclusion. You are using incoherent conjecture to arrive at yours. Please define ''a family of 2''.

I visit Anambra State and now that I think of it, the claim that the average person lives on less than $1 a day makes perfect sense. To use an anecdote, when someone heard that our driver in Awka(counts as urban in Nigeria) is paid 14000 Naira per month, they were astounded as they thought it was far above the norm. If you extrapolate from income figures in rural areas, presuming you actually visit rural areas, such low incomes are not far-fetched. Invariably, living costs are far lower but with that comes low income. I have a friend who works in Lafia(urban by Naija metrics) and his perception is that most of the adult working population survives on 10 to 15k per person.  

The average Nigerian, forget Lagos and all the other cities that warp your perspective of life in Nigeria, living in huge swathes of the South and the North, in rural  areas and small towns, do survive on around 150Naira a day. Nigeria's Govt, not the British, tells us that the average Nigerian does not even have access to electricity. I'm not aware that the Nigerian Govt disagrees with the claim that 70% of Nigerians live on less than $1 a day. You seem more intent on painting a glorified image of Nigeria than the PDP and the rest of our thieving political class.

And who told you i was using cities to judge? did these people making up the stats visit the whole urban areas in Nigeria to have arrived at 70% mark? both of you are using the GDP gotten from a source that does not even know the stat of how many Nigerians are into informal business.

Now, lets leave big big English, let do the math ourselves.

70% of 150 million is 105 million our of 150 million, so you are trying to say that 105 million Nigerians feed themselves with just $1 daily (150)?

for real, are you people even making any sense? Lagos is 18million people, and i can tell you that more than 80% of people in Lagos spend more than $1 a day on feeding. (the kids included)

Edo state is within 2-4 million people, 40-50% surely spends than $1 a day.

Jos is another example

Abuja is another

we have 36 states plus Abuja making it 37, are you trying to tell me that an average of 1.5 million people from these states do not spend more than $1 a day (feeding?)

infact, i am wasting my time, because the WB said it's 70% (I HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS STATS SINCE 10 YEARS AGO, YET IT HAS NOT CHANGED), does that sense to you? 10 yrs gone, yet the stats still remain?

Answer me, do you mean in the past 10 years, 70% still spend less than $1 a day? (put inflation and all that in view).

^^^

You want me to do the comprehending on your behalf? hehehe, sorry, i ain't jobless, if you have not been able to deduct anything from the list post, then i can't help you!!!

chelseabmw:

ok,i go keep am

problem dey ooo.My woman nor well ooo. . . . .I wan cook rice and stew for her

Hehehe, cook am well well, me go chop oo


@topic

So we have already scored, nice!!!

^^^^

What are you saying self? so you have been "arguing" with me without reading my comments?

He's asking for TOO MUCH with his current qualification, he's not worth $100K per month, got it now?

chelseabmw:
did u read my reply? i said after 2007
na wa oo

07/08, they got to the QF

mens dept:
And who is laughing with you.

I thought you don tire?

Anyway, you have and are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wayward some of us find it. If Mr Maurice as you say is coach, or Sia1 is coach, or Maradona con carry Naija coach position, let us stop this nonsense of saying Siasia is not qualified, because he is.

Hehehehe, you can read abi? where in my post did i say he's not qualified? i said he's not worth the $100k he's demanding per month, now can you kindly point out where i said he's not qualified?

chelseabmw:
am serious. . . .send me your account no

Hehehehe, keep am for me hehehe

BTW pls help us with updates, my SS stations dey strike

debosky:
Again, you miss the point - unless we solve the economic problems and lack of commensurate growth, the population WILL become a problem.

That lies with the government, it's not about how many we are, its about what we do with it i maintain, what we need is an environment where the population'll show off their capacity.

Rhydem:
Somebody please point to me Madagascar on the map in which we could only beat 2-0 at home, ?

Portugal drew 4:4 at home to Cyprus, how about that?

Eagles ease past Madagascar

Posted: 2010-09-05 19:55

Nigeria’s Super Eagles beat Madagascar 2-0 in a 2012 Africa Cup of Nations Group B match played at the UJ Esuene Stadium in Calabar on Sunday.

It was not a convincing display for the star-studded Super Eagles, who raced into a two-goal lead before halftime.

Obafemi Martins opened scoring for the home team after 20 minutes when he got to the end of a loose ball on the top of the 18-yard box before he fired home past the impressive Madagascar goalkeeper.

Martins was again involved in the second Nigerian goal when he dribbled his way into the Madagascar box from the left before he delivered a low cut-back for Esperance striker Michael Eneramo to make hay with a tap-in.

Martins was again on target late in the second half, but Tunisian referee Jedidi Slim incorrectly disallowed this effort for a foul on the Madagascar goalkeeper.

Goalkeeper Vincent Enyeama, who was mostly on holidays for the duration of the game, was called to make a finger-tip save with five minutes left on the clock. He scrambled away a goal-bound shot for a corner to the relief of the packed Calabar Stadium.

Both Eneramo and Martins had chances to give the Eagles a bigger home win.

Eneramo could have opened scoring as early as the first minute, but he stumbled when all alone with the goalkeeper, while the Madagascar shot stopper Masina made a point-blank save off Martins after the break.

Nigeria are now second in their group after Guinea ran away 4-1 winners also on Sunday in Ethiopia.

Both Guinea and Nigeria will square off in a decisive qualifier next month in Conakry.

There were full international debuts for former schoolboy international Stanley Okoro and Ahmed Musa, who finished top scorer in the Nigeria Premier League last season with 18 goals.

www.kickoff.com

FBS:
hehehe. I know say you dey play but you mean them deport you? from where? eh ya. . .sorry oo!
why you wan know where I dey? How can they deport moi from my own country? IMPOSSIBLE. Awa omo onile.
lol   .

hehehehehe.

Oga, wetin dey happen now? anyone watching the U-"17" WC?

tensor777:
Well most rural dwellers would hardly dream of wasting N500 to make a pot of soup when they are perfectly capable of sourcing their own fruit and vegetable requirements. What is more fruits and vegetables are much cheaper in the villages so I don't know what your point is.

Anyways, back to the topic, we can keep beating about the bush, population is not our problem, the problem solely lies with not knowing what to do with population.

Well then, it has to done in another way.

Match 2 Port Of Spain - Hasely Crawford Stadium
weatherCode5
05 September
[Nigeria]
Nigeria
15:00
Korea DPR
[Korea DPR]


Referee Kirsi HEIKKINEN (FIN)

* Line-up
* Preview

NGA
PRK

* 1 Amina ABU (GK)
* 2 Sarah NNODIM
* 4 Oluchi OFOEGBU (C)
* 6 Ugo NJOKU
* 9 Francisca ORDEGA
* 10 Ngozi OKOBI
* 13 Kemi ABIODUN
* 14 Halimatu AYINDE
* 15 Victoria AIDELOMON
* 17 Omolade AKINBIYI
* 19 Yetunde ALUKO

* (GK) CHOE Kyong Im 1
* SONG Im 2
* RI Un Gyong 3
* (C) O Hui Sun 9
* KIM Kum Jong 10
* KIM Su Gyong 11
* CHOE Jong Hwa 12
* KIM Nam Hui 13
* KIM Un Ha 15
* KANG Ok Gum 16
* PAK Kyong Mi 19

Substitute(s)

* 12 Damilola AKANO (GK)
* 21 Ibijoke SANGONUGA (GK)
* 3 Gladys ABASI
* 5 Chioma ALIMBA
* 7 Loveth AYILA
* 8 Christiana OSUNDELE
* 11 Winifred EYEBHORIA
* 16 Jane DAVID
* 18 Ebere OKOYE
* 20 Ogechi OKWARAJI

* (GK) KWAK Chuk Bok 18
* (GK) RIM Myong 20
* KIM Hyang Sim 4
* JO Jong Sim 5
* HAN Hyang Suk 6
* KIM Yun Mi 8
* RI Yong Mi 14
* YANG Yong Sun 17
* RIM Un Sim 21
* PONG Son Hwa 7

Coaches
DEDEVBO Peter (NGA)
(PRK) RI Song Gun
Officials

* Referee: Kirsi HEIKKINEN (FIN)
* Assistant Referee 1: Tonja PAAVOLA (FIN)
* Assistant Referee 2: Anu JOKELA (FIN)
* Fourth official: Finau VULIVULI (FIJ)

There is a coach out there that i am looking to too, he's known as Maurice Coreman, he's been coaching in Nigeria for 10yrs now and knows alot about our HB mentality.

He has won the league, FA cup with different clubs in Nigeria.

This siasia surrounds himself with foreign assistants, it's not like he's working on his own, he's also going to be working with these "whites" that have failed us of recent.

mens dept:
They channeled their energy in the champions league? That sounds like an England excuse when they fail (Our players are burnt out from the Club competitions eh).

Emeteole was sacked because they had a bad season and were entering the Champions League matches. Amodu was sacked in 2002 under the same circumstances in Mali ANC. Those "yeye" quotes must have come from a "yeye" coach abi?

hehehe, the quote came from the Heartland Admin who wanted something to lean on in other to have him sacked, hence that quote.

Yes, do you know the size of Heartland's squad? yet, this same man almost won them the champions league, man let just ignore these people, lets face Siasia, why take a job that you knew had a short time? is it because of the $5k they pay him or what? why dent your certificate for $5k? he's denting it further, wait until the NFA starts using his Heartland records in judging him. (A coach is as good as his last performance).