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Goke7:
Wow, UK, you do this one!

Na when person wake up be in morning

Future plans | What to do?

As for me, I believe the 10 yr route / point based system will be blanketed for everyone (based on what I have seen). If you don't know what a PBS looks like, it looks like what is here - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/check-score.html

There will also be an opportunity to make it 5 yrs if you meet some certain criteria which for me, points to a target on folks in the HC sector for the most part, which effectively ignores that they do a very demanding job with long hours and very little protection from abusive clients etc.

The reason for the 10 yr route is hinted here - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-advisory-committee-annual-report-2024/migration-advisory-committee-mac-annual-report-2024-accessible (there is one where it was discussed extensively, cant seem to find it).
It says "The typical household for a Skilled Worker in the H&C route has a lower positive net contribution than for the typical household of workers outside this route due to the relatively lower incomes and higher number of dependants of those on the health and care route"

If you are skilled, you can wait for changes to the GTV or if you have a good profile, can write or research well, please look at the EB1A / EB2 NIW, there is a dedicated thread on NL, a subreddit, and a TG group for it. Oga GPT can also help you structure everything with the right prompts.
Australia , Canada also has open pathways for tech and HC routes which can be explored

As for me and my family, I am EB petition submission ready, as we await what the UK holds or does not hold . May Jah help us all

Happy Bank holiday to everyone

Does the UK offer a good deal for all the noise?

Simple answer is Yes and No, although I lean more towards No.

My friend who left for Canada about 6 months before I came to the UK received his PR 2 weeks ago. He paid the equivalent of £887 while we paid nearly £14K if not more for 4 yrs SWV and about £13K school fees which means I have somehow forked out £27K in 3 yrs excluding taxes, house rent, council tax etc.

After all that, we will again pay for ILR at £3,029 per person - followed by £1,605 for naturalization as seen here - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/visa-regulations-revised-table/home-office-immigration-and-nationality-fees-9-april-2025 .

IHS was also increased from £624 to £1,035 per person per year in Jan 2024 and there are already discussions for increment in May 2025 | SWV Applications exceeding three years will also rise by 7% from £1,420 to £1,519 in 2025. Be honest, do the maths and tell me you haven't seen a pattern

If we look at the US also, it costs $1015 to apply for the EB2 NIW / EB1A which grants you a green card from the jump and you wonder why they attract all the talented researchers, AI and Cloud guys, have all the innovations while the UK has less than 5 companies out of the top 100 in the world - https://www.financecharts.com/screener/biggest

Fun fact, the UK does not have any popular / well known cloud computing / email provider which is used worldwide. E get why

In all, for the UK to reap the fruits of its "immigrant labor" over time, there has to be a shift from the cash grabbing, "owo mi da" mindset the UK has for legal immigrants / talents keeping in mind that they will one day turn citizens and could go on to do great things … but then, the UK is the UK, hence, 10 yr route which could as well change to 15 yrs if them Kemi Badenoch make it there.

2025 Whitepaper - Much ado about re-election | Opportunity in the midst of chaos

Within every problem or setback lies the seed of an equal or greater opportunity or benefit - Napoleon Hill

You can decide to look at the chaos from 2 angles, one that benefits you and one that stifles you.

On one hand, restricting the care home visas means employers would have to hire internally, lots of spots will also open up. This can be very beneficial if you have upskilled since taking up care / support roles. Have you done your NVQ 3 or 5? Did you go to school for further studies? Did you take advantage of the opportunities in the NHS?

If not interested in HC, did you upskill in your field? Did you make Udemy / YT your best friends or were you making excuses? Roles will open up, did you prepare? Certifications? Were you on TikTok watching DJ Chicken or on Twitter arguing why a Driver's license in the UK is more important than getting your MSc?

"Hidden" somewhere in the whitepaper also is their plans to make global talent visa easier, which makes a lot of sense and is what should have been done since 2023. The requirements for "product led" blah blah makes 0 sense when there are lots of areas you can work that aren't product inclined. Looks like they will make it more accessible like the EB2 / EB1A routes in the US

As seen here - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6821aec3f16c0654b19060ac/restoring-control-over-the-immigration-system-white-paper.pdf - they wrote they would like to "Increase the number of people arriving on our very high talent routes, alongside faster routes for bringing people to the UK who have the right skills and experience to supercharge UK growth in strategic industries"

At the end of the day, it is up to you and your planning, what you did or didn't do with your time and the foresight you have to plan ahead while weathering the storms of UK immigration

2025 Whitepaper -

In 2023, the UK gov published a legal immigration statement in December 2023 -
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6581835023b70a0013234bcd/Legal+Migration+Statement+4th+December+2023+-+Estimated+Volume+Impacts.pdf

An interesting snippet of it reads -

Health and Care (Total): 143,990 main applicants and 173,896 dependants. | An estimated 1.21 dependants per main applicant.

This meant that "the share of Skilled Worker visas going to health and care roles jumped from 58% in 2022 to 75% in 2023" per information here -

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/press/social-care-sector-continues-to-drive-demand-for-overseas-workers-as-new-data-shows-public-sector-roles-dominate-work-visas/#:~:text=The%20Home%20Office%20granted%20350%2C000,2022%20to%2075%25%20in%202023.

I often use papers like this to make plans for the future as it is based on stats and there are subtle indications of what they plan to do. From the above, they had already started to drive the narrative that health and social care needs to be targeted for a reduction, one of the reasons I was openly against staying in the lower ebbs of a care home at the time and saying people should upskill and rise to managerial roles if they must stay in HC

Do I blame them? No.

As I have earlier said about on this thread, the purpose of opening up the routes was to attract skilled immigrants who will transition from MSc to high paying roles in their field and the gov can make some good money off taxes, settlement fees etc; a "symbiotic" relationship.

The problem however, is that people came in, did their MSc and then went ahead to transition to care roles which are not "skilled roles" and which the UK gov did not expect to happen. You will hardly ever find a white person with MSc in a care role. In actual fact, most of the white guys I have seen in those roles do not have a BSc and I remember mentioning this and being told that "there is dignity in labour" but I guess the UK gov thinks otherwise.
Nigerians in the UK will whine you, na you go use your head.

An excerpt from this link proves this but also leaves some ambiguity on the table - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/immigration-white-paper-to-reduce-migration-and-strengthen-border

"Raising Skilled Worker threshold – SKILLED must mean SKILLED . Lifting the level for skilled workers back to RQF 6 (Graduate level) and above. Salary thresholds will rise."

Use the past to predict the future:

I have been in the UK since 2022 and I have always complained on this thread about how immigrant students who contribute to the economy in leaps and bounds have been treated and insulted. Part of this harmful rhetoric, misinformation and disinformation about migrants is what lead to the anti-immigration / race riots of 2024.

Riots where even the Kemi Badenochs and Oga Starmers of this thread and the "I am a British citizen already, the Gov can insult those dirty immigrants" hordes could not go out for fear of being attacked -
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-anti-immigration-riots-erupt-across-britain-2024-08-05/

The past is often an indicator of the future, and policies of a gov are shaped by the rhetoric it drives in the media. For instance, following the UK leaving the EU, I made a decision to come to the UK based on this post - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/graduate-route-to-open-to-international-students-on-1-july-2021

This is what interested me the most at the time - "The new route will help the government to achieve the ambition set out in the International Education Strategy to increase the number of international students in higher education in the UK to 600,000 by 2030"

This quota was however quickly met and I correctly predicted the future will be equally chaotic as the honeymoon phase was coming to an end. Based on past events, restrictions will now come on immigrants like Pharoah did to Egyptians

Been a minute but id like to give my 2 cents on the immigration palava

With the immigration brouhaha having died down (for the time being) and having examined facts and analysis with a clear mind bereft of bias, I would like to offer my 2 cents which will be broken down into headings. Links will also be provided for clarity and for confirmation of what is being said where possible

Nigerian students - Facts

Before I go into it, I will like to clear some facts which will be in the form of "questions", some of which I have observed people making funny claims about on this thread in the last few weeks -

1. Was it easier to enter the UK as students? Yes.
2. Was the system exploited? Yes, by both the British gov and students
3. Was it mutually beneficial at the time? Yes
4. Was it necessary to reduce immigration? Yes
5. Will this have harmful effects on UK Universities and student towns? Yes.

According to the white paper here - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6821aec3f16c0654b19060ac/restoring-control-over-the-immigration-system-white-paper.pdf

"In 2022/23, international students contributed over £12 billion in tuition fees to Higher Education Institutions in the UK and contributed to the UK’s world leading research sector"

6. Is the rhetoric against students / legal immigrants justified? No.

I do believe the gov uses it as a shield to cover up their ineptitude and shift focus from the illegal immigrants they take in and feed/house on the tax payer's dime. They have no idea what to do to stop this as it needs "a measure of violence" to stop

Cyberknight:
So little done, so much yet to do.

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Time to go back offline to reader mode

Lots to do, so little time

obioraval:
Thread. There's an EB1 and EB2 thread on nairaland. I'm on the path for EB2 also. Planning and gathering my evidence to meet the criteria.

Yeah, Im on the thread too. Gathered a list of quality lawyers others have used on the thread

hooyou.com
messersmithlaw.com and wegreened appear to be quality ones

Please share pointers if you have and if you would like to do it alone or with a lawyer. Think it's really expensive so I want to try and see if I can figure everything out myself in 6 - 9 months if I can.
Been following this YT channel and he breaks it down into easy to understand chunks that makes the process a bit less scary (not sure the post won't be hidden cos of the links)

https://youtube.com/@oscarsgreencard?si=rkeAu4MEbvMdKwZv

I will send a DM later in the day

Cyberknight:
University of Glasgow?

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tobbyabk:
Congrats on your new job.
Please can you kindly share some tips and pointers on how to get a job in cybersecurity.
Man has been applying for cybersecurity jobs for months now without any positives.Can i send you a DM?
Thanks

Yes boss

Nothing special though. Just CV tweaks and lots of apps

Viruses:
Please what is the name of the company that you accepted their offer?

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AgentXxx:
As a Man Utd fan, I no agree with that “aspire to maguire” because na aspire to be shit niyen 😌

I'm a Man Utd fan too and na Maguire drop aspire to Maguire lamba pass cos baba na otu

Goke7:
The propagandists will soon be here to remind us why we no kuku stay naija say we force us come, omo I don tire at this stage, don’t even give a damn any longer. Am even ready if they wan chase everyone out. Bunch of hostile cowards!

We go dey alright

Jannyfranc:
There is trade for eb2 here.Whats your qualification?

What do you mean trade my Lord sir?

hustla:
Dream big

You didnt come this far to settle for less



NB - Thats not me o, just came across said guy on LinkedIn

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dupyshoo:
@hustla, where are you? Have you got the cybersecurity job?
Just checking as it has been a while

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dupyshoo:
Where have you been? Welcome back.

Putting 2 and 2 together offline so everything go "c'est bon" as men dey talk for my area

Thanks!

Goke7:
I remember warning then that when it comes to immigration policies, there was no segmentation and that everyone was placed inside the same bucket whether you came via boat, plane, or through the forest. Good to hear from you again hustla, keep safe dear!

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LaXxOnebody:
Welcome back!

Howfar with the job search?

Bossman, job search dey

Between Jan and April, did about 12 interviews, finally got 2 jobs before graduation..

I rest my case

LionInZion:
Yes, just like yesterday. I remember how some even reminded us how things were worse during Windrush, so why were we being irrational with our complaints? A lot of false rhetorics with derogatory words in media then, and when you complained here, the defenders of the system would twist and bend the narrative to suit themselves. Unfortunately, it is still the same old story in Ray charles' voice.

We all gon learn, one way or the other

lavida001:
Welcome back from sabbatical leave.

For a short while

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ehizario2012:
Your argument is looking absolute and that's it's weakness. For you to be able to take a decision to relocate shows forward thinking in a way, and that already disproves LL's assertion. Except there's something else you're trying to say.

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kwakudtraveller:
See Hustla, I like you but that quote by LL no be am. You mentioned Shogun so I’m sure you know what the Japanese called them; Barbarians and with good reason.

These people erased our history and made slavery our only history. They merged Kingdoms and Towns that had no business living together as a country just so they could feast on our wealth.
We know of the London Bridge and the Great Wall of China but Benin Kingdom had a wall greater than what China built but you’ll hardly hear of it because they erased everything that made us great.

https://amp.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

You as you finish school now, them don release new rules to weaken your chances of getting a job. It’s in their DNA to take and make you look like the demon when they are the true wolves.

Anyway, enjoy Shogun. I go watch Episode 6 this weekend.

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Controlv:
This reminds me of vision 20:2020 😂😂

People just dey argue blindly with emotions.

LL may have been a bit harsh, but it's based on his observations and he's not far from the Truth based on what still happens now

deept:
hahahahaha, dont we all. Enjoy your shotgun, just did kungfu panda 4

It needs a pt 5

ReesheesuKnack:
Sorry Sir.
London Bridge predates 1914.

What Desmond Elliot built in Lagos (in 2020) does not even come close to what the Romans built (as first London Bridge) circa 43 AD.

#SettingtheRecordsStraight

Makes it even worse

missjekyll:
Where are the jibes? You accepted those qualities for yourself because you agreed with his "writing" .
I havent written anything about you that you haven't written about yourself.

I respect you enough to describe you the way you describe yourself.
How have I wronged you?

OK

deept:
how can you compare river thames to what is that, is that a gutter?

plus we still dey dump 'shit' inside river for this youkay o

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Lexusgs430:
At least, he can say he delivered a bridge (but he actually did)........😂😁

May God epp us