ehizario2012:


Your argument is looking absolute and that's it's weakness. For you to be able to take a decision to relocate shows forward thinking in a way, and that already disproves LL's assertion. Except there's something else you're trying to say.

As a collective, as a FREAKING collective

How are you deliberately missing the point of this?!!

I will not speak on this matter again. It was the same deliberate missing of point thing Nigerians did on twitter a few months ago when something similar came uo

I no do again abeg

Happy Easter

kwakudtraveller:

See Hustla, I like you but that quote by LL no be am. You mentioned Shogun so I’m sure you know what the Japanese called them; Barbarians and with good reason.

These people erased our history and made slavery our only history. They merged Kingdoms and Towns that had no business living together as a country just so they could feast on our wealth.
We know of the London Bridge and the Great Wall of China but Benin Kingdom had a wall greater than what China built but you’ll hardly hear of it because they erased everything that made us great.

https://amp.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

You as you finish school now, them don release new rules to weaken your chances of getting a job. It’s in their DNA to take and make you look like the demon when they are the true wolves.

Anyway, enjoy Shogun. I go watch Episode 6 this weekend.

Comrade, you're proving part of the point

If they merged you, how have you not been able to organize a referendum abi election to debate on a a split? No be for our front UK leave EU? Ours may be a bit complicated but if we arent able to come together to do this, how are we even arguing about LLs assertion?

If we want to argue, we quickly run to the old Benin empire to argue...what have we done since then? What have we contributed to the world? How about we build another bridge? Or na colonial masters say make we no build?

In the 2000s, China was known to Nigerians as a shit hole, where inferior goods are produced but look at China now. Since 1960, what have we achieved as a people?

How can a country be on a downward slope since 1960 and you're telling me LL is racist and oyinbo people erased our history kinikan

They have released new rules abi. If our country was even working, would we even be here? How many Americans are in your class for starters? Emiratis? Even SA folks don't flood UK classes

Make we look mirror and tell ourselves cold, hard truths


Btw, Shogun, yet to find E6

Controlv:


This reminds me of vision 20:2020 😂😂

People just dey argue blindly with emotions.

LL may have been a bit harsh, but it's based on his observations and he's not far from the Truth based on what still happens now

deept:


hahahahaha, dont we all. Enjoy your shotgun, just did kungfu panda 4

It needs a pt 5

ReesheesuKnack:


Sorry Sir.
London Bridge predates 1914.

What Desmond Elliot built in Lagos (in 2020) does not even come close to what the Romans built (as first London Bridge) circa 43 AD.

#SettingtheRecordsStraight

Makes it even worse

missjekyll:


Where are the jibes? You accepted those qualities for yourself because you agreed with his "writing" .
I havent written anything about you that you haven't written about yourself.

I respect you enough to describe you the way you describe yourself.
How have I wronged you?

OK

deept:


how can you compare river thames to what is that, is that a gutter?

plus we still dey dump 'shit' inside river for this youkay o

The 'builder' called it a bridge. Who am I to argue?

Abeg, I don go watch Shogun. I don't want palava anymore o. I just want to relax and be taken kiarof

Lexusgs430:


At least, he can say he delivered a bridge (but he actually did)........😂😁

May God epp us

Lexusgs430:


Imagine what he put on the invoice, claiming he delivered a dividend of democracy, to his constituents, via his constituency project allocation (as a ranking senator)......😜🤣

100M at the least

smh!

MichaelUde:


You don come back? How was the presentation? Did anyone listen to you? Or did they feel your words displayed a natural lack of ambition?

As you don come back, talk your own here. I go reply you soon. I dey work, where I am a manager, a position which I was given out of the blue, dashed really, with no effort, aspiration or ambition on my part, and we're doing budget planning, which is oh so difficult for me, because, as you and Freddie Lugard talk, I no get "ability to visualize the future".

Okay, is that all?

Tell me how your. country has visualized the future in recent years

lavida001:

I think some people having been here for a while tend to lose sense of what’s going on at home. In a way 1914 British is even better than present Nigeria. Shey na Lagos wey dem dey throw refuse for middle of road we wan dey talk bi canals filled with plastics.

London Bridge was built in 1914

Look at what Desmond Elliot built in 2020

lavida001:


Stop making excuse for Nigeria. The country is rotten to the core. Just say it nobody will beat you

Pinpointing housing crisis in the UK when Lagos literally has people sleeping under bridges at Ozumba Mbadiwe

Funny enough, housing crisis is part of what I just described during the presentation I was doing some mins ago.

Countries are providing packages for people who are homeless, from GP to apprenticeship to deposit schemes, to fully paid supported accomodation, but your country people after 60 years still has people living under the bridge


..but na colonialism

lavida001:


If it’s not true then why is the entirety of Africa still having thesame dilemma after independence. Why can’t Africa make a decision for themselves?

The thing dey pain and people will always argue with emotions and sentiments, ignoring the reality on ground

A set of people collectively no fit organize themselves for 60+ years, them still dey prove my point dey talk "i", "me" upandan

Plenty English, that's all Africans know how to speak. As a unit, we do well, as a whole, we are just as that LL guy described

@ MichaelUde

Oya come. I don finish

missjekyll:


Dear me.

You cannot convince me that I am genetically stupid ,unable to plan and just a cut above an animal.
It seems I cannot convince you that you are not genetically stupid and animalistic,as well.

Shall we agree to disagree, perhaps?
I'm giving in .
Happy Easter

OK ;

..but before. you go, counter my points in direct response to what I wrote. You accused the white man of doing some things in 1914, same thing your country people still do in 2024

Throwing low jibes is not how you engage in discourse

MichaelUde:


Oga, na only one pint wey I say make you drink for my head na. E be like say you don go do more than one.

You've missed the point. I agreed with you that Africa's current state is underwhelming, deplorable, saddening, take your pick and fill in the blanks. But that has nothing inherent to do with the African himself, just the same way the way Europe bin dey generations or centuries ago or in the 1950s when millions of dem still dey shit for outside was not imputable to any intrinsic failing in the oyibo man.

Taking your argument to its logical end, it means that you believe that we black people in the UK and everywhere else, are not as good as the rest of the world's peoples. So in other words, its inborn, genetic. And me I am saying unto you that by believing and saying what you have said, you are wrong, and very wrong too.

Nope

I'll be right back. Make i finish my presentation

MichaelUde:


hustla o. Come out, come out, wherever you are. Make we drag you small, its Easter and we need some entertainment.

On a serious note, how could you write wetin you write up yonder? Just a while ago, while dey were dragging Lexus upandan, your proudly announced you had passed your finals and obtained an M.Sc in Cybersecurity. We, on behalf of the Nigerian Migrants Pandemic Set of 20/21, were happy for you. Now you come dey quote one kolo man's rubbish talk for us. Are you now saying that you are exhibiting a "want of desire to rise beyond the state that Buhari left you in Naija?

Nigeria is what it is. It is badly governed, its leaders are lousy, corruption full everywhere. We know. We know what it is like. We all abandoned ship from there. Many African countries are in similar states. We sabi. The state of Nigeria in particular and Africa as a whole pains those of us who think about it.

But.

But there is nothing genetically wrong with Africans and people of African descent wey don make Nigeria and Africa dey where they are now. The people who govern are lousy but that's them. The people who they govern could do more about freeing themselves from the lousy misgovernment, but other peoples have been misgoverned too and they no talk, not just Africans. At the risk of exciting missjekyll, it is arguable that the UK itself is a place where the governed too keep quiet and continue to exist while their governing class does anyhow. Nothing genetically wrong with that - or with anyone.

Abeg, please go and pull yourself one cold pint on my tab and reconsider what you wrote. No come dey add fuel to the right-wingers' fire biko. You are just as good a cybersecurityman as anyone else (that is what you have been telling recruiters o), so don't come and talk different for here.

Quick question - Who elects those leaders?
You mean there is nothing wrong with a set of people who have been voting in the same set of useless leaders since 1960?
You mean there is nothing wrong with people who voted Buhari in, then voted Tinubu next?

Let's leave Nigeria for a bit, show me two countries in Africa dominated by black people that is thriving on all fronts. Just two. I am not talking genetics, I am just saying what LL said still applies to present day Africa / Nigeria

I am not a right winger or left winger o please, I am just a "truth winger"

Goodenoch:


Oh I now see why you felt affinity with the statement.

OK

lavida001:

Neo colonialism is part of it. Where are all the looted funds going. Youkay, France, America. Some of our politicians are even big donors to uk universities.

But ... we stole the funds and deprived people of a chance at a decent life

If them bring money for you, you no go collect?

Goodenoch:


This is pseudoscientific nonsense.

The state of mind described here would be the same for any group of people with the same lack of education/exposure, and whose horizons and ambitions were limited as a result. People like Lugard said the same about indigenous people everywhere else from America to Australia, etc. It’s part of the MO of conquerors to dehumanize those they conquer to justify their actions. Civilizations like the Mongols also likely held similar ideas about how much better they were than the other countries when they ruled half the world, but now they’re a tiny inconsequential country.

People from the former colonies are increasingly occupying high positions in politics, business, professional fields and everywhere else in the UK and elsewhere, including an outsized contingent from Nigeria, so it’s clearly not about anything in the brain and about the society and the education, rule of law and other factors that keep people in line.

Much as I hate to cite colonialism, fact is that the forced mashup of several groups in Nigeria is a major reason for the inability to have a cohesive national front to tackle issues. Britain with just 4 ethnic groups has had civil wars among them, with the most recent just a few decades ago although they cleverly call it ‘the Troubles’ and not a civil war. Till just last month governance was paused in Northern Ireland because of underlying ethno-religious disputes under the guise of parties not being able to agree (although if it was in Africa they’d say it was ‘tribal warring). So isn’t it logical that Nigeria is struggling more? I don’t think that excuses the people in power and us as Nigerians in general but it’s important to put issues in context and not take to simplistic assessments just because they sound witty.

To be clear I’m not disputing your right to believe you as an individual ‘African native’ are far nearer to the animal world and do not have ambition and all the rest o - feel free to internalize and work with that, I’m saying it’s not true for the generality of Africans.

Didnt read all that but OK and may God help us

missjekyll:
May i exclude my past and future generations from this incredibly racist description. You may accept it for yourself, i have no problem with that.

As he was writing this s**t about us, his people were pooing in the Thames. Infact ,during summer,the thames smelled so
Much that parliament had to be suspended. Children as young as 3 years old were put to work among other barbaric practices.

Not planning for the future is a common failing in bad leaders of every race.
Infact, the current housing crisis in the UK can be linked directly to this .
I hope it wont be long before Kogi state renames its government house (currently its called Lugard house). This man should be confined to the soakaway of history.

LOL, as usual.

It's either racism or neo-colonialism instead of looking into the mirror. It's the same thing when you ask the black man what he has contributed to the world, he is either mentioning the pyramids, Ethiopia or ancient Benin empires all with a serious face

They were pooing in the River Thames in 1914 but guess where they still wash and poo in rivers in 2024? Nigeria .

Speaking about barbaric practices. Guess where children are kidnapped en masse and sold to jihadi terrorists in 2024? Nigeria. Want to take a guess where children are exploited as house helps and killed for rituals in 2024? Nigeria
Want to also guess which country in 2024 has a church on every street and prefers to pray to God instead of fixing actual issues as described in that Lugard excerpt? Nigeria

Continue merry-go-rounding and speaking English when the irony is staring at you in the face

igbsam:


It will wear off. Measures were taken to douse the tension in recent times.

We wait ...

lastkingsman:


Jezoz, Jezoz, Jezoz, Jezoz... (In Oga Sabinus voice )

Any lie detected?

profemebee:
bro, na we dey do ourselves ooo

There is no reason why Nigeria can't have a national carrier.... managed and profitable.. especially with the nos of travel to/fro ..

Corruption

Them wan buy benz na

lastkingsman:


The looting that have left that country since 1970 is estimated to be around 600bn USD, enough to fix our infrastructure deficit (power, refinery, road, ports, hospitals, schools, railway and so on) and make us productive

Naija, everyone is just looting, no one is sensible enough to care about the future or even plan for it

Lord Lugard's excerpt about Nigeria and Africans still holds true several years after

I have taken some parts loosely below -

His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future or grief for the past. His mind is far nearer to the animal world than that of the European or Asiatic, and exhibits something of the animals' placidity and want of desire to rise beyond the state he has reached.
Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future

olaoluwa83:


So, Coventry better than Huddersfield, is what u meant?

Yeah

profemebee:
and renting airplane from ethiopian airlines..... smh

.. And Tolu Ogunlesi, learned fellow o was defending nonsense.

Omo, Nigerians are a special breed when money exchanges hands

Smh

LionInZion:


So you don't know?😄 In fact it's the reason why we have one of the highest number of out of school children. It's the reason why our currency is weak. It's the reason we're world's poverty capital. I can go on and on. 😆

They have left us behind

LionInZion:


I think say na only me. That's stupid victim mentality narrative is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. Blaming slavery and colonisation of centuries ago for Africa's woes means we're still far from taking our destiny into our hands.

Maybe neocolonialism is the the reason why snakes keep swallowing money in Nigeria

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/13/africa/nigerias-snake-swallows-100000/index.html#:~:text=Controversy%20is%20trailing%20the%20disappearance,be%20remitted%20to%20the%20agency.

NewT123:
One Naira is now 1590 to pounds this morning on LemFi

It should go back to 700 so people can have some respite and will be able to afford the basics

Whats the essence of the exchange rate favouring diaspora people when everyone else is suffering?

I am just scared of what will happen if the plastic measures wear off

I hope it wont be problem pro max

lastkingsman:


It will never work. It will implode down the line and everybody will answer their papa name

This Oga dey vex o

Lexusgs430:


Do you know whatever happened to that Nigerian e-currency......

Imagine the amount spent to launch that white elephant..........

Now the same FG, is chasing binance....... Why are they not chasing bybit and others........ 😂

... And Nigeria Air... Paid $600,000 for a logo... Something you can design with photoshop or Canva

Sometimes when people blame neo colonialism for Nigeria's woes, i just dey think to dash them slap