error4040:

Nobe soda Again Na
Burger and Beer


This man is on Another level

Lol i cannot kee myself na

I prefer manual cars especially for long distance driving, and also if you can drive manual cars, heck what can’t you drive? I learned with our traditional Beetle cars wayback and I dey drive anything wey get tyre at the moment including forklifts

Life has taught me that you will thrive better outside your comfort zone

cutegentility:


Oga ibro, u sure say this Jedi Jedi wey dey yr front go allow knack those Finnish babe wellawella sha?

If nah naija nah, I for don send Ogun jedi.




Lol

I dey always get agbo jedi from Iya Ojo direct from Festac and I be gym freak so these na once once

My weekends na always ”cheat weekend” away from my strict gym schedule so here is my home made burger and beer

olioxx:
I appreciate all the nice input here.
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But we are all adults here, and I feel that we should not waste precious pages on disputing over menials, salaries or there about.
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Everyone in here is entitled to their own opinion(s).
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Everyone knows what they are set to do when the travel out.
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Bro Ibro, give us nice gist abeg.

Abi oh...Omor I been dey hustle too much lately and no time for flexing sef...My Ghanaian paddy just tell me about one major gbedu for us Africans in this country, so I dey plan go am soon...wahala na say the show na Sundays only and na for Helsinki...

olioxx:

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I know that!
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Cool...So we have big earners here in their respective careers but have paid their dues over the years and are earning very well and doing big things....I have a Naija friend that have been working for PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC) in Helsinki for years...He is a big boy...Traveling round the world and doing big things, but he started from the lowest cadre in that establishment..

ferrariLaferrari:

Boss please can i mail you Please bro

Of course why not? You can chat me up on google hangouts via the email too

Ggetter50:

This Man won't kill me with laughter �... You call Finland a low salary country with huge taxes? Tell me, what kind of salary you looking for?

Truth is that in all societies, you have to work your way up no matter how good you are..! It is same in Nigeria in some companies too....

olioxx:

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Finland with there low salary, huge taxes.
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No worry bro...When you cross you go know as e dey play....

olioxx:

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Is it for all IT fields?
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Aren't some earning than that?

Only Finnish work experience over the years can help for a little increase then

olioxx:

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Flex for Naija? I dey laugh.

I serious...Cos if you know the heat wey we dey get from family every month cos we dey here you go understand...Bills to be paid here in Finland nor be child’s play, plus family and friends in Naija... no time

olioxx:

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Explain please.
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Thanks.

Here in Finland, the salary cap in the IT field for expats with foreign certificate and experience is around 2k5 euros per month before tax in medium scale firms....But brothers here make more than that by accumulating several cleaning shifts and post delivery, some add dish Washing and are raking in over 3k5 per month...I dont want to talk about some exclusive cleaners that earn more than that...It is why you gotta know what you want here...Uber/Taxi drivers make more than career people even...But this my rough statistics is restricted to Helsinki area or maybe Tampere and Jyväskylä

olioxx:

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Bro Ibro, las las na skill(s).
In Western world, craftmen with the skills are earning the cash.
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Just have a skill and you will be fine.
But Ibro dont call these menial jobs, they are just skills you possess.
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Ok if I am a Barber(Hair stylist), will you say I'm doing menial job. NO!
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Menial jobs entails: Cleaners, Waste/Refuge parking workers, etc.
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But if you are a bricklayer, hair styling, tailor or fashion designer, you ain't doing menial, but you have a skill.
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So let's make the difference clear.

I know those paddyman.....I am just highlighting the fact that one should be ready to face the music when situations arise...It is tough being black here bro...I landed my job because of my skills, but then a menial job pays almost as much as these when accumulated, and we are immigrants who have families in Naija that must be fed....What caught my attention was when you said "You can never do dish washing", I just concluded that this one dey flex for Naija na.

Goztino:


I must say that you are doing a wonderful job here Ibra.
I am admitted for a masters degree in Germany and this news about IT being in great demand in Europe has really made me willing to have a foot there too.
Can you recommend the best way to go about it?
I really wanna get a professional job upon graduation in Germany

PM me

frontliner065:


Ibrahimovic303, drop your email address or buzz me asap, pls. We need to see/talk

ok...pm me here normally

DemigodZeus147:


I concur... Same thing here for naija. You see those Agbero guys for road wey people the downgrade, they make money pass most people wey the work for office.

Yes na...Even those our mamas wey dey sell food dey collect money pass many people wey dey wear coat for some establishments...Na same thing for Europe and the West generally...those things wey u go comot eye say na menial work na dey pay pass lasan...My paddyman in Tampere got an exclusive cleaning job where they clean the homes of wealthy Finns daily, when I hear this guy per hour pay sef, I come dey reason to stop office work completely sef.. cos me I am here for the money, to build my own personal brand and empire lasan...

All this menial job clamour on this our thread just dey make me smile here sef cos frankly speaking, before you leave Naija you really have to tell yourself what you want or else when you arrive Europe or elsewhere na confusion go rush you....You gaz tell yourself if you want money or career.... here in Finland, I have several Naija and African friends driving Uber and taxi and even making way more than my monthly salary as a full stack developer...The only thing is I work from 8am till 4pm weekdays, whereas they work round the clock and weekends, infact these set of guys get money pass career people by far...So the question or bottomline now is "wetin you want"? Even in Canada, many Nigerians who actually want money are abandoning office jobs to go do menial jobs...As for me, as soon as I close office work, I dey comot my office clothes inside my car sef then change to my rags to go do my evening cleaning jobs...


Time nor dey...When I fall in Naija dey spend my bar, las las na only me one know as e dey sup for the Europe

cydophobia:
I have a question bro.
Does it mean someone without work permit will not be able or permited to do any work at all that can allow such person to gather small money to enroll for a program in Finland or other part of Europe.
What is your input on this?. Thanks.

Without permit you cannot get work..In America, I have friends that worked under the table for years before they gathered money and got documentation etc, but I can tell you that in Europe it is damn tough for this group at the moment...But then you wont have access to healthcare and other things cos they will always need your social number....Truth is, it is better to avoid these cos one is practically useless without documentation....Few years ago, many people came like that, but these days, with anti-immigration bills and leftist groups taking power across EU states, it has become tougher...Even Finland recently got some of those in power at the moment and the anti immigration clamour here dey fear me sef lasan

olioxx:

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Lets stop consoling ourselves, and lets not settle for less.
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Washing dish? Tufiakwa

My brother, see ehnn...Let me tell you this little story from 2012 when I dey do contract work for NNPC, Carbon Black Plant Warri....We were on Night shift and down by two men, meaning those present had to work extra....So there is something in that plant called Mixer where the flows from the main refinery meets the steam in the carbon black overhead area. Now this area is like a mini engineering tank farm that requires experience...My man here, say around 48yrs at the time was mixing it and suddenly all the carbon black that should otherwise flow to the storehouse completely bathed him....But we continued...When we had a little break, he told me that everybody in his family are saying he is working in NNPC but how many are ready to work? I mean in plant areas? He told me that in the morning when he is going home in his jeep, neighbors and jobless youths will be admiring him but "If them tell poor man wetin him go do to get money, him go say nor worry I like the poverty"...The point is that las las as far as you can pay your bills, and can even send something to those families or friends in need, just do what you can....From my dishwashing job, I made contacts that landed me some nice football contacts! I never make better bar but I know say I go make am cos my ginger high, and I am ready to do ANYTHING to avoid begging my peers or whosoever...

Most people for Naija when I dey send bar to go just receive am then lock up...Europe hard for the lazy oh...A word is enough sha

Regarding those that their minds are not made up as to which country they should migrate to, just take a bold step based on your resources...But bear in mind that migrating to any country in Europe besides the UK presents language barrier issues and of course, racism....So you have to be extra motivated, smart and possess one mind to advance your goals here...I will not tell that here is all heaven, but be ready to work hard...I mean hard...Before I got to where I am, I had even done cleaning jobs, dish washing etc...I know how many families in Naija that my salaries from those jobs helped and the prayers, before I landed an IT job...If you are not even motivated in Nigeria you cannot be here, because if your papers are right, you can be getting welfare benefits and just start living a laid back life, before you know it you are 50....Even in that Naija, na shoes I been dey sell for Festac and Abuja plus bricklaying sef sometimes...Na only God and my close paddymen from this thread from Festac understand sha....This is why I cannot rest here even.

Life na your ginger las las plus small jara in form of grace from the big man upstairs...

But wetin I know sef?

Ggetter50:

You are not restricted to any working hours in Estonia, no limitations so far it doesn't affect your education. So, students do lots of hours to earn more.

Many blacks work in office in Estonia, working with multinational companies like APL, Arvato, Verif, TransferWise, Taxify, Wolts, DPD, ABB, Myjar, Monese, and more while some other students work in Bakery, Hotels, Laundry. It's very hard to seeing International students without any reasonable thing doing to make a living.

In Finland, it's rare to seeing black people working in offices like in Estonia, but your journey towards citizenship and amount of money you earn in Finland is better than Estonia. Day to day activities is easier in Estonia because of the technology compare to Finland. While both countries are tech savvy, Finland is more manual and to me, it's a little bit stressful compare to Estonia. If you have experienced both countries, you will know that, there is little or no difference in buying raw food stuffs in both places, especially if you are buying food from Lidl in Finland, you can actually compare that to Estonia. Meat is generally cheaper in Estonia, as well as buying fast food from the restaurant compare to Finland.

If you don't have huge money to put inside your account for Finland, Estonia is better as your chances of getting visa is high. But again, they don't have embassy in Nigeria. Ain't an excuse anyway because many Nigerian students have scaled through the hurdle.

To others, if anyone of you have access to Poland, Hungary, or Portugal, please go for it. We all have different budget and fingers are not equal. Don't be afraid that your life will be worst in the so called "second class European countries" but be happy that your life will start to getting better. These countries are ×5 better than Nigeria, and actually a stepping stone to greatness. Someone says Poland is cold, anyway, that's not actually a cold compare to Norway, Finland, Sweden, and Estonia. If that is your fear, then the Northern Europe ain't for you.

To be frank, more than 50% International students in Europe (Non-English speaking countries) are aspiring to relocate to English speaking countries. You are restricted to some opportunities because of language, but this is not what you can be scared of as many guys are really making it based on hard work and determination. Combining studies with work is not easy, but I bet you it is 100% doable.

I wish everyone all the best!

You have written well...Just know this that the change begins with me and you towards making the Nigeria of our dreams..As for me, I proudly tell everyone here that I am a Nigerian and they are so proud because I have tried to start the change in my own little way...

olioxx:

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Even Canada has its own gun issue, but it is not publish in the media as in the US.
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Really? I never knew oh...sha one thing I have learned since I started living outside 9ja is that the West have as much problems as us, but they clearly cover it up and constantly use Africa as a scapegoat, that is why they have established stereotypes already and might never erase

Hadampson:



We kinda think alike... Almost all Nigerians believe USA is the best country in the world but is that how it is... A country where every citizen have access to gun... A country that breed different kinds of mafia

That´s why there is a mad rush to Canada instead sef...My friend in ATL told me that a guy was shot dead in the club for rocking someone´s babe

Crownful:
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Bro how can I get your contact ..
I have good deal for you...

Been waiting for response to this! Hit me up via email, I will contact you from there, I can´t put my details here for obvious reasons...

PS: I am waiting for your notification

Totogokillme:


Nokia at first never believed in smartphones and touch screen model,they believed people will come back to QWERTY keypads and when they decided to enter,it was damn to late and them being sold to Microsoft never helped matters.......

They never paid so much attention to their software and app development which I believed killed blackberry too....

It is how the Finns are...they are not adventurous by nature and are very rigid with approved strategies/working models...Here I have lots of friends who were born here, never traveled outside Scandanavia or at best Thailand and believe that Africa is a country etc...But if you are lucky to find a well traveled Finn, there is a big difference in terms of world views..

Bawsse:


Boss abeg make I get your WhatsApp number or any other means of contacting you, I believe I'll be in Finland in a few months still need info from you, thanks

pm me via email

error4040:


Mr Zlatan, I have this Question I want to ask you for long but always keep forgetting
is Nokia still a thing in Finland ?

For where...Nokia don finish like old mama breast lasan.. infact this your question can start a whole thread, because Nokia was once a household phone around the world but let me tell you something: it failed because of the non adaptability of Finns to the then global demand, where androids and IPhones quickly understood this and took advantage...I will revisit this issue again!


PS: That was an excellent question!

GOFRONT:


Hiv is real o

From past experience, prostitutes are mostly neater than regular women and even insist on condom usage..

IchBinBrait:


In those parts of Europe, the citizens there (including immigrants) believe they are free from harm's warm. If you research on countries with low crime rates, the non-English speaking countries are topping the table. In the black men continent, such freedom of life isn't allowed, in the sense that a group of NFAs (No Future Ambitions) on sighting an unguarded millionaire will act quickly by kidnapping him/her. This business dey boom wella for Naija like this. You can't buy a newspaper without it making the headlines... Kidnappers collecting millions of naira as ransome which makes them millionaires overnight... chaii,, and I ask myself this question, "Is it supposed to be like this"

Based on what I read in recent times; articles written by the Finns themselves, one can mistakenly drop his/her wallet on a chair in the street and return the following day to find it. Not now that bad guys have started to show people that they have arrived. The insecured Finns don't wanna mingle with foreigners (both black & white, although most people call this racism) because they are preventing the unexpected. Yet they still feel safe.

America is not like this, one reason people are relocating to other countries is because of their gun law. How can someone be walking on the street with double barrel in his winter cloth. If the person drinks and gets drunk, he then shoots sporadically in the air thereby killing innocent people. Please that is not the kinda life an immigrant will want for himself and his family.

Personally I'd rather live in non English speaking countries like Germany, Finland, Sweden etc, take my time to learn the language, pay high taxes, have an insurance cover and be free to move around as I feel like regardless of the fact that I own a Bugatti or a Lamborghini.. Even if my salary after tax is low as long as I feel safe. Freedom of life is important.

My area for Lagos ehnn, if you see how I dey look left, look right and look left again before I comot from house ehnn. Most times I don't blame the big men for carrying ogbonge escorts. Their only problem is that they overdo it. This is because the country is not safe. People around can't be trusted either. Na only God dey keep person oo..

I think you have summed this up...cos even the millionaires are not safe, it is the main reason why even the wealthy and upper middle class Nigerians are relocating abroad too

Totogokillme:


Wow,is it a culture or societal thing ços down here in naija pastors and traditional rulers who are supposed to be simple and modest base on them nor too work for the money wey dem dey live on dey even oppress us for roads with the latest cars and more than 5 escorts not to talk of politicians......

It is definitely a cultural thing, cos that is how all of them are...Nobody dey show himself even as everyone here dey ok and dey live better life

Totogokillme:
.....him no get bodyguard,police,mopol and police dogs wey dey guard am ........what a simplistic lifestyle!!! Congrats bro,I know say you go use this opportunity well

Omor e dey blow my mind....I even know a Finnish lady that works as a top boss in a company here and bikes daily to her office during the summers especially but has a 2018 volvo jeep..Like she is damn rich; sha this is the way Europeans/Finns are....never ever flamboyant